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Post by rugbyterrier on Feb 3, 2023 21:49:42 GMT 1
You could do with a few of them in Morley to spread the shite over the rhubarb. 😉 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 22:03:31 GMT 1
WBA fans protest tonight:
"You might have caught a glimpse just before the goal but Baggies protest group Action For Albion are continuing their campaign against the club's majority shareholder Guochuan Lai tonight. The mobile phone lights you might have seen from supporters in the stands are part of the 'lights up for Lai out' campaign, aiming to pressure Lai into returning a debt to the club which was promised to aid the club's transfer budget during the transfer window. The fans will be lighting up for a second time just before the hour mark too"
I believe he stills owes the club £5m he 'borrowed' during COVID for another of his companies. He has missed two repayment dates. The club have also taken out a £20m loan to cover running costs.
They may have Coberan but I think WBA fans have a proper reason to protest. What is ours exactly?
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Post by rockwall on Feb 3, 2023 22:05:55 GMT 1
Getting rid of Bromby and MF isn't hard work. Majority on here would have been happy with 0 signings and that cash used to get rid. So we’re protesting MF are we? What happens if he wins tomorrow? Genuine question. My opinion, should still be gone. Just because we win a game changes nothing about his lack of man management, lack of media skills and lack of tactical knowledge. Even Mick Wadsworth won a game or 2. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 22:21:27 GMT 1
So we’re protesting MF are we? What happens if he wins tomorrow? Genuine question. My opinion, should still be gone. Just because we win a game changes nothing about his lack of man management, lack of media skills and lack of tactical knowledge. Even Mick Wadsworth won a game or 2. Yes, but if, by some fluke, he keeps winning games, does he still need to go due to his lack of everything except winning matches? (I know he hasn't won many yet but just if he did) |
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Post by rockwall on Feb 3, 2023 22:31:00 GMT 1
My opinion, should still be gone. Just because we win a game changes nothing about his lack of man management, lack of media skills and lack of tactical knowledge. Even Mick Wadsworth won a game or 2. Yes, but if, by some fluke, he keeps winning games, does he still need to go due to his lack of everything except winning matches? (I know he hasn't won many yet but just if he did) Only a presumption, but that isn't going to happen is it? If he did, it would mean he has changed his persona. Which then would mean he is learning from his mistakes. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 22:36:09 GMT 1
Yes, but if, by some fluke, he keeps winning games, does he still need to go due to his lack of everything except winning matches? (I know he hasn't won many yet but just if he did) Only a presumption, but that isn't going to happen is it? If he did, it would mean he has changed his persona. Which then would mean he is learning from his mistakes. Stranger things have happened my friend. Not saying they will but you never know. |
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Post by Richard1986 on Feb 3, 2023 23:09:26 GMT 1
Is there 'some sort of leader', for this 'some sort of protest'? ...the planning so far seems a bit vague.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Feb 4, 2023 1:58:56 GMT 1
As I see things.
Hoyle is actively trying to sell the Club. He's said as much in his last statement, he's stepped back and David Baldwin is now running activities. Hoyle has accepted he has made some mistakes.
Bromby is working with, if not the lowest budget in the championship one of the lowest budgets to recruit.
Fotheringham says some strange things, has odd characteristics but he has picked up form where we were at the beginning of the season...All be it a low starting point.
Every single person associated with Town is aware of the problems and the fact we are starring league one in the face. We still have a chance of getting out of this.
We need to be 100% supporting the team tomorrow. The mistakes were made years ago that have led to our current prediciment. The Club are meeting with the HTSA later this month. Then is the time to discuss and complain.
Not prior to kick off.
Understand that everyones passionate about Town but I dont want any perceived negativity in the stands to translate onto the pitch, we need to stay up by the sounds of things in order to get a new owner/era.
Protest after the final whistle please not before.
Had this discussion with friends and family who are staying away tomorrow because they are unhappy about things, they feel like we are doomed and that is their protest, by not going. I refuse to believe we are down yet but if we are calling out senior members of the club infront of players I worry what message that gives them.
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Post by westislandterrier on Feb 4, 2023 3:10:11 GMT 1
Great post colnevalleyblue - Sensible in all actions while obviously recognising things aren’t right and far from it, but the need to stick with the team in this critical match later on today...
I’m pouring you a dram for each of the ten sensible paragraphs !
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Post by prepare on Feb 4, 2023 9:07:08 GMT 1
As I see things. Hoyle is actively trying to sell the Club. He's said as much in his last statement, he's stepped back and David Baldwin is now running activities. Hoyle has accepted he has made some mistakes. Bromby is working with, if not the lowest budget in the championship one of the lowest budgets to recruit. Fotheringham says some strange things, has odd characteristics but he has picked up form where we were at the beginning of the season...All be it a low starting point. Every single person associated with Town is aware of the problems and the fact we are starring league one in the face. We still have a chance of getting out of this. We need to be 100% supporting the team tomorrow. The mistakes were made years ago that have led to our current prediciment. The Club are meeting with the HTSA later this month. Then is the time to discuss and complain. Not prior to kick off. Understand that everyones passionate about Town but I dont want any perceived negativity in the stands to translate onto the pitch, we need to stay up by the sounds of thingsery in order to get a new owner/era. [br the final whistle please not before. Had this discussion with friends family who are staying away tomorrow because they are unhappy about things, they feel like we are doomed and that is their protest, by not going. I refuse to believe we are down yet but if we are calling out senior members of the club infront of players I worry what message that gives them. great post And a balanced one And while I don’t believe protesting after the game will help it certainly won’t during it!! |
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Post by ldr on Feb 4, 2023 11:08:03 GMT 1
It looks like the protests have started in earnest. I’ve just been in town and it has been fucking wrecked. Shops closed, shit strewn across the streets, zombie like folk everywhere, a scene of utter destruction and despair.
I think the council, sorry I mean Town fans, mean business!
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Post by charliedontsurf on Feb 4, 2023 11:28:29 GMT 1
Here is a serious message to the supporters thinking about doing the protest today.
I think we will win today, i really do. We are also more than capable of winning at Blackpool & Wigan in the next 7 days. If results went for us, we could find ourselves in mid table.
We also have 2 games in hand over Cardiff and 1 over Rotherham, Birmingham & Stoke.
There will be potential investors watching the club, possibly even today from within the ground.
From a business perspective, if Deano writes off his 30mil of personal debt and Potless Phil does the right thing, the club becomes a very attractive proposition, especially as we have £15m of future transfer money in the pipeline.
I fear that a vexatious, petty banner waving protest today is incredibly dangerous and naive and potentially could tip Dean over the edge - and considering hes the only one propping us up at the moment could mean… the unspeakable.
Notwithstanding the unbelievable years we have had under his Stewardship, the fact that he almost died 4 years ago and his unquestionable commitment as a town fan, we need to cut him a bit of slack and let him go with his head held high - and find a proper investor this time, not one thats full of crap and out of his depth.
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Post by specialun on Feb 4, 2023 11:33:33 GMT 1
….., we need to cut him a bit of slack and let him go with his head held high - and find a proper investor this time, not one thats full of crap and out of his depth. He could have followed the formal sales process he instructed last time which delivered, in his words, “serious interest from around the world” As they’ve explained it - He chose not to & called Phil to negotiate the terms which suited them both That was his right & his choice But he knew getting into that deal - ignoring other interest - that things could get messy I don’t have much sympathy for that (Not commenting on protest as not close enough to know the details) |
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Post by space hardware on Feb 4, 2023 11:35:33 GMT 1
Here is a serious message to the supporters thinking about doing the protest today. I think we will win today, i really do. We are also more than capable of winning at Blackpool & Wigan in the next 7 days. If results went for us, we could find ourselves in mid table. We also have 2 games in hand over Cardiff and 1 over Rotherham, Birmingham & Stoke. There will be potential investors watching the club, possibly even today from within the ground. From a business perspective, if Deano writes off his 30mil of personal debt and Potless Phil does the right thing, the club becomes a very attractive proposition, especially as we have £15m of future transfer money in the pipeline. I fear that a vexatious, petty banner waving protest today is incredibly dangerous and naive and potentially could tip Dean over the edge - and considering hes the only one propping us up at the moment could mean… the unspeakable. Notwithstanding the unbelievable years we have had under his Stewardship, the fact that he almost died 4 years ago and his unquestionable commitment as a town fan, we need to cut him a bit of slack and let him go with his head held high - and find a proper investor this time, not one thats full of crap and out of his depth. Just be careful what you wish for boys n girls Utft Where's he said he'll write off the £30m+ that he thinks he's owed? |
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Post by ben1987 on Feb 4, 2023 11:39:19 GMT 1
What protest?
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Post by charliedontsurf on Feb 4, 2023 11:59:46 GMT 1
he hasnt said he’ll write it off, but I suspect he might just chuck the towel in. The £30m is just speculation of an approx figure, could be even more, who knows? |
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Post by prepare on Feb 4, 2023 12:00:53 GMT 1
Here is a serious message to the supporters thinking about doing the protest today. I think we will win today, i really do. We are also more than capable of winning at Blackpool & Wigan in the next 7 days. If results went for us, we could find ourselves in mid table. We also have 2 games in hand over Cardiff and 1 over Rotherham, Birmingham & Stoke. There will be potential investors watching the club, possibly even today from within the ground. From a business perspective, if Deano writes off his 30mil of personal debt and Potless Phil does the right thing, the club becomes a very attractive proposition, especially as we have £15m of future transfer money in the pipeline. I fear that a vexatious, petty banner waving protest today is incredibly dangerous and naive and potentially could tip Dean over the edge - and considering hes the only one propping us up at the moment could mean… the unspeakable. Notwithstanding the unbelievable years we have had under his Stewardship, the fact that he almost died 4 years ago and his unquestionable commitment as a town fan,we need to cut him a bit of slack and let him go with his head held high - and find a proper investor this time, not one thats full of crap and out of his depth. Just be careful what you wish for boys n girls Utft spot on naive doesn’t even cover it |
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Post by ben1987 on Feb 4, 2023 12:03:01 GMT 1
he hasnt said he’ll write it off, but I suspect he might just chuck the towel in. The £30m is just speculation of an approx figure, could be even more, who knows? You been on the top smoke? You come across as another hoylebot. What protest? Show me evidence of this protest you seem to thinks happening? Townian will be along soon to tell us that these teenagers will have to be home before it’s dark if they are protesting. |
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Post by ram on Feb 4, 2023 12:05:58 GMT 1
Can I sit at home and protest if we are bad and lose please!
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Post by kelliemarie on Feb 4, 2023 12:13:29 GMT 1
Cannot see the point in protesting to be honest, the club is up for sale, Ok we all know the club will have more value if we stay up, everyone is fed up of the situation goes without saying, No one seems to like Fotheringham but unfortunately I cannot see the club getting rid of him. Will be a strange atmosphere today I suspect.
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Post by turbo2 on Feb 4, 2023 12:17:49 GMT 1
Potential new owners at the game today apparently.
They’ll love a good protest
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Post by softboy on Feb 4, 2023 12:21:08 GMT 1
How do you know.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 4, 2023 12:24:23 GMT 1
Potential new owners at the game today apparently. They’ll love a good protest Seems a convenient thing to put out there |
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Post by drumriggend on Feb 4, 2023 12:27:49 GMT 1
I’m protesting by going to the pub instead..
That’ll show em..
Down with this sort of thing..
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 4, 2023 12:32:49 GMT 1
I agree with this. As pissed off as I have been, I genuinely don't think a protest is a good idea. I also think we will win today and climb out of the bottom 3. We then have 2 more very winnable games coming up. Today is not the right time for protests in my opinion.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Feb 4, 2023 12:32:53 GMT 1
To be fair, a protest might be a bonus for potential owners to see. They would realise that the fanbase does care & could channel that passion in the right way with the right owners.
That being said, I don't see what a protest would want to achieve, as I doubt very much it is for what I suggested above? I think everyone with any stake in the club, be that financial or supporters, wants the club sold.
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 4, 2023 12:37:01 GMT 1
To be fair, a protest might be a bonus for potential owners to see. They would realise that the fanbase does care & could channel that passion in the right way with the right owners. That being said, I don't see what a protest would want to achieve, as I doubt very much it is for what I suggested above? I think everyone with any stake in the club, be that financial or supporters, wants the club sold. My only real gripe is how shit our manager is. The owners are actively trying to sell so it doesn't achieve anything. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Feb 4, 2023 12:44:31 GMT 1
If we lose today, then by all means have a go at the manager for poor tactics and / or selection.
Protesting against Hoyle is pointless given he’s selling the club and a protest could indeed backfire if potential buyers see it.
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Post by turbo2 on Feb 4, 2023 12:49:11 GMT 1
Potential new owners at the game today apparently. They’ll love a good protest Seems a convenient thing to put out there Messaged about an hour ago. I have no reason to post other than it’s info I’ve been given from inside the club. |
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Post by boooothy on Feb 4, 2023 12:56:34 GMT 1
More importantly, what’s the point?
Fans usually protest when they want the current owners to bugger off. As far as i can see they are doing all they can to do exactly that.
That being the case for the said owner why put in another manager, DOF or whoever else we are unhappy with when with any luck a new owner will want to pick their own in a few months.
Like the initial point any protest can do zero good but could do harm.
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