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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 8, 2023 8:03:43 GMT 1
Complete and utter disappointment so far. He's brought nothing.
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Post by hthp on Mar 8, 2023 8:10:37 GMT 1
At least we've got four points under him, which is four more than we'd have got under Pelach.
What were people expecting? For him to come in and win every game? Jesus Christ.
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 8, 2023 8:18:19 GMT 1
Is it too much to expect a Huddersfield Town manager not to be a time-wasting coward?
Is it too much to go for 3 points when you're at the bottom of the table and quickly running out of games?
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Post by hthp on Mar 8, 2023 8:20:15 GMT 1
Is it too much to expect a Huddersfield Town manager not to be a time-wasting coward? Is it too much to go for 3 points when you're at the bottom of the table and quickly running out of games? Wasn't Corberan a time-wasting coward? I seem to remember our fans revelling in the shithouse tactics last season? |
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 8, 2023 8:25:37 GMT 1
Wasn't Corberan a time-wasting coward? I seem to remember our fans revelling in the shithouse tactics last season? The thread is about Warnock, we're discussing Warnock's time-wasting cowardly approach to last night's must win game. |
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Post by townrwe on Mar 8, 2023 8:33:19 GMT 1
We should have kept fozzy..I think we would still have been in touch with him, we wouldn't have given in and ultimately we would have either just survived or just gone down.
Feels like we have thrown in the towel, fozza wouldn't have allowed that to happen, despite his numerous flaws.
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Post by hthp on Mar 8, 2023 8:33:54 GMT 1
Wasn't Corberan a time-wasting coward? I seem to remember our fans revelling in the shithouse tactics last season? The thread is about Warnock, we're discussing Warnock's time-wasting cowardly approach to last night's must win game. "Is it too much to expect a Huddersfield Town manager not to be a time-wasting coward?" You weren't specific. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 8, 2023 8:35:03 GMT 1
Warnock makes out we're playing prime Barcelona every game. I'm not surprised the players go out there looking terrified
Can't wait to hear how amazing West Brom (3 wins in 9) are.
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Post by hthp on Mar 8, 2023 8:36:39 GMT 1
Warnock makes out we're playing prime Barcelona every game. I'm not surprised the players go out there looking terrified Can't wait to hear how amazing West Brom (3 wins in 9) are. Don't you know who manages them? 😂 |
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Post by shawsie on Mar 8, 2023 8:41:08 GMT 1
Complete and utter disappointment so far. He's brought nothing. To be fair im not sure paul daniels could magic too much with what he has in the squad - its simply not quite good enough. I thought it was a few mths ago but having seen recent games im not convinced now. His pressers are more entertaining than MFs though! |
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 8, 2023 8:41:36 GMT 1
He's playing mind games with himself.
I think he knows football coaching and management have moved on far quicker than he has.
'He's a nice lad is Jack, always washes behind his ears and sends his mum a birthday card' isn't going to make Jack score goals or control a pass in the modern game.
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Post by tepidterrier on Mar 8, 2023 8:50:22 GMT 1
Is it too much to expect a Huddersfield Town manager not to be a time-wasting coward? Is it too much to go for 3 points when you're at the bottom of the table and quickly running out of games? Wasn't Corberan a time-wasting coward? I seem to remember our fans revelling in the shithouse tactics last season? Warnock: encouraging time wasting because your players too chickenshit to try and win a must win game Corberan: encouraging time wasting to see out a game you're already winning, when you're winning most weeks. One of the two is cowardly. |
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Post by hthp on Mar 8, 2023 8:51:54 GMT 1
Wasn't Corberan a time-wasting coward? I seem to remember our fans revelling in the shithouse tactics last season? Warnock: encouraging time wasting because your players too chickenshit to try and win a must win game Corberan: encouraging time wasting to see out a game you're already winning, when you're winning most weeks. One of the two is cowardly. Thought it might be 😂 what a legend. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Mar 8, 2023 8:56:16 GMT 1
At least we've got four points under him, which is four more than we'd have got under Pelach. What were people expecting? For him to come in and win every game? Jesus Christ. we seem to have gone backwards from an initially quite promising performance against Birmingham. It wasn't perfect but all the basic hallmarks of a Warnock side were there, and the team selection was at least logical. Since then, we've had neither of those things. |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Mar 8, 2023 9:12:39 GMT 1
Warnock's hands were tied together right from the start. We haven't got one single player who is good enough for the Championship and there isn't a thing he can do about that. He's not a bloody magician, our January recruitment was the final straw.
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Post by ACW on Mar 8, 2023 9:27:33 GMT 1
At least we've got four points under him, which is four more than we'd have got under Pelach. What were people expecting? For him to come in and win every game? Jesus Christ. Not expecting miracles, but something a bit better than hoof and hope. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Mar 8, 2023 9:28:05 GMT 1
None of this is Warnocks doing - the squad we have available to us would struggle to beat the Dog & Duck on a Sunday it’s piss poor.
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Post by mooythegoat on Mar 8, 2023 9:35:11 GMT 1
None of this is Warnocks doing - the squad we have available to us would struggle to beat the Dog & Duck on a Sunday it’s piss poor. Correct, the blame lies at the top nothing to do with Warnock. The bonus is I prefer listening to him than the clown predecessor, we were going down soon as we didn't act on January 1st. The window was horrendous and leaving MF in for Blackpool was as bad. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Mar 8, 2023 9:38:51 GMT 1
Warnock's hands were tied together right from the start. We haven't got one single player who is good enough for the Championship and there isn't a thing he can do about that. He's not a bloody magician, our January recruitment was the final straw. During which we’d clearly decided to bin MF but didn’t pull the trigger as we knew Warnock would insist on a new signing or two. So we delayed until February to ensure his hands were definitely tied. Even to the very end we did all we could to do things as cheaply as possible. Warnock joining in mid-January with the option of bringing in 2-3 of his own players, rather than the selection of journeymen and wasters that Bromby/Baldwin ‘identified’ would have been a completely different scenario. Obviously, being Town, we couldn’t even manage that. |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 8, 2023 9:51:21 GMT 1
We should have kept fozzy..I think we would still have been in touch with him, we wouldn't have given in and ultimately we would have either just survived or just gone down. Feels like we have thrown in the towel, fozza wouldn't have allowed that to happen, despite his numerous flaws. I think we'd have the same number of points, possibly less, but the two 4-0 hammerings would probably have been 1 or 2-0 instead. We were going down under him, absolutely no doubt in my mind. |
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Post by runner76 on Mar 8, 2023 9:53:40 GMT 1
We were going down after the first game so we could have saved loads of cash and kept Scoffa  |
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Post by ambryboy on Mar 8, 2023 10:01:27 GMT 1
Have to say Birmingham aside, this isn’t the Neil Warnock I remember or was expecting. Can only think he’s got in the building, taken a few training sessions and realised he doesn’t have the players required to keep us up. He seems very laid back about the whole situation, an almost whatever will be will be attitude. If we’re going down - which we are - at least go down with some fight and spirit and a little tactical know-how. Play players in their correct positions and where was Knockeart tonight? Deemed fit enough for a place on the bench on Saturday and nowhere this evening. He’s one we have with a bit about them but we don’t play him. Very bizarre. Totally agree, I thought he'd bring in some blood and thunder football that whilst it might not have yielded more points might have improved the torpid atmosphere and lifted the general malaise around the club. He hasn't. They might as well have left Fothers in charge and at least we could all vent our spleens against him and Bromby to make things a little 'livelier'. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 8, 2023 10:14:51 GMT 1
Warnock has always been a bit of a marmite Mgr hasn’t he. Hardly surprising to see the different opinions on here, especially with our current predicament.
It’s a big if, but if we are to somehow scrape above that line by game 46, at least we know that it will mean taking it to the wire. There’s going to be none of that ‘safe with 3 games to go’ nonsense. So if he does keep us in touch I can only imagine what this place will be like over the next couple of months, fecking torturous…
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 8, 2023 12:39:58 GMT 1
None of this is Warnocks doing - the squad we have available to us would struggle to beat the Dog & Duck on a Sunday it’s piss poor. Beat Birmingham just the other week didn't they? Now they'd struggle to beat the Dog & Duck? Don't talk shite. Shit under Fotheringham - "we have good enough players to stay up, shit manager, get rid of Buzz, out of his depth, Germany, blah blah blah, Warnock would sort this lot out, he'll take no shit, think of the passion he'll bring, think of the half-time bollockings" Shit under Warnock - "it's the player's fault, Guardiola would struggle to keep this lot up, hands tied right from the start, we haven't got one single player who is good enough for the Championship, there isn't a thing he can do about that, he's not a bloody magician, Paul Daniels, Dog n Duck, blah blah blah" What concerns me - as a balanced, objective person - is how he has completely pulled the wool over most folk's eyes. He's an antiquated manager who only knows how to lump it forrad. Great when you've got Grant Holt up front, piss poor when it's a crocked Danny Ward. It's Emperors New Clothes all over again. 'Colin Wanker's in the all together, the all together ...' Playing for a draw at home to Bristol City when you need the 3 points to stay up, slowing down throw-ins, slowing down the general pace of the game, leaving your 2 best midfielders on the bench, starting a crock up front. That is 100% of Warnock's doing. |
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Post by mrg on Mar 8, 2023 13:08:38 GMT 1
We should have kept fozzy..I think we would still have been in touch with him, we wouldn't have given in and ultimately we would have either just survived or just gone down. Feels like we have thrown in the towel, fozza wouldn't have allowed that to happen, despite his numerous flaws. This guy should have never been employed and then we wouldn't be getting relegated. We wouldn't have beaten Birmingham under fozzy, not a chance. Warnock played a debutant who took them by surprise. We all know who is responsible for this and as 22 years ago we need to let go. Ideally the custodians will somehow work out how to support the wage bill they've created and get coaches who can coach a team instead of talking about themselves and not getting it on any level (fozzy) to give town a chance of coming straight back. With the decision making over the last 4 years I wouldn't bank on that without evidence. |
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Post by wigster on Mar 8, 2023 13:26:17 GMT 1
I've observed Warnock's selections and tactics since he came and, apart from the disgraceful capitulation before the Burnley match even kicked off, can't really complain, and am actually losing my interest/anger/frustration.
He's got a pool, a big pool, of mainly mediocre/poor players to select from - is Waghorn better than Simpson? is Kamberi better than Ward? are they all crap - that whatever he does is likely to fail.
Sorry to repeat my mantra, but what an awful awful mess Hoyle/Hodgkinson have left my club in.
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 8, 2023 13:34:23 GMT 1
Fair few on here who have been reading the Watford owners manager appraisal book. Let's judge him after the final game. Until then get behind him The vast majority ARE firmly behind him and supportive at the games, did you not hear "Neil Warnocks Blue & White Army" chanted for large parts of last nights game? The fans are doing all they can to give the players the best chance of actually performing...I know plenty other clubs would be boing their players every touch by now if they were as consistently rubbish. However - it's pointless away from the game burying heads in the sand and not discussing what an absolute cock up he seems to be making of the job. Whats the next suggestion, we don't discuss how rubbish Scott High has been for us this season whilst its happening, and we wait until after he's eventually retired from football ?! |
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Post by ruggedivy on Mar 8, 2023 14:54:31 GMT 1
Fair few on here who have been reading the Watford owners manager appraisal book. Let's judge him after the final game. Until then get behind him The vast majority ARE firmly behind him and supportive at the games, did you not hear "Neil Warnocks Blue & White Army" chanted for large parts of last nights game? The fans are doing all they can to give the players the best chance of actually performing...I know plenty other clubs would be boing their players every touch by now if they were as consistently rubbish. However - it's pointless away from the game burying heads in the sand and not discussing what an absolute cock up he seems to be making of the job. Whats the next suggestion, we don't discuss how rubbish Scott High has been for us this season whilst its happening, and we wait until after he's eventually retired from football ?! Opinions are like arseholes my friend. We all have one. I was merely stating Warnock has only been here a couple of weeks And he's already been called into question by some on this forum. On Scott High - he has been consistently shit at this level for well over two seasons. So I don't understand your comparison? |
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 8, 2023 15:21:44 GMT 1
The vast majority ARE firmly behind him and supportive at the games, did you not hear "Neil Warnocks Blue & White Army" chanted for large parts of last nights game? The fans are doing all they can to give the players the best chance of actually performing...I know plenty other clubs would be boing their players every touch by now if they were as consistently rubbish. However - it's pointless away from the game burying heads in the sand and not discussing what an absolute cock up he seems to be making of the job. Whats the next suggestion, we don't discuss how rubbish Scott High has been for us this season whilst its happening, and we wait until after he's eventually retired from football ?! Opinions are like arseholes my friend. We all have one. I was merely stating Warnock has only been here a couple of weeks And he's already been called into question by some on this forum. On Scott High - he has been consistently shit at this level for well over two seasons. So I don't understand your comparison? And after how many consistently shit Scott High performances did you give the approval for people to discuss their opinions!? How about letting people make judgements and discuss them based on what they see...we all know that Warnock has only been here a couple of weeks and any opinions put forward will take that into consideration, and (hopefully) those opinions might change over time as the next few weeks pan out. But the facts are that as things stand, people are quite right to be calling Warnocks approach and capability to deliver into question. Warnock and his team are not effectively managing football games right now, that much is pretty much irrefutable to anyone who has gone to the games and opened their eyes. HOPEFULLY as they get more time with the squad and get the message across, that will improve. Scott High might well become the reincarnation of Aaron Mooy next season and be the driving light in the centre of midfield that drives Hudds Town on towards winning the Championship...I sincerely hope he does, and if he does I'll laud him for it at that time. It won't make any current or historic judgement invalid, just as Warnocks hopeful future re-established hero status is something we all hope for, but does not make current judgement or discussion of whats happening today unworthy, invalid or inaccurate. They're professional footballers and football managers, they don't need protecting from the fans opinions. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 8, 2023 16:10:22 GMT 1
We should have kept fozzy..I think we would still have been in touch with him, we wouldn't have given in and ultimately we would have either just survived or just gone down. Feels like we have thrown in the towel, fozza wouldn't have allowed that to happen, despite his numerous flaws. Yup. 5 of the 6 performances since he left have been worse than just about anything I saw under Fotheringham. Weve gone backwards and with it any chance we had of surviving. Can you imagine this group being the last kick of the game , deep into the 98th minute, from taking 3 points at Hull now,.. cos I cant. Or being in the position to chuck away another 2 points at Blackpool..twice...? Again I cant. Fotheringham might well have kept us up IMO, despite the individual errors that kept costing us points. |
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