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Post by willo on Feb 26, 2023 23:56:37 GMT 1
Agree with most of this apart from the ‘weak In the tackle’ and ‘no bite in the tackle’ comments, I was there an I didn’t see any tackling at at all. Obviously we were outplayed as a team and as individuals , but what was shocking was that to a man we were soft as shit . Rocket Ron must have wondered what the fuxk was going on . I can’t remember a match for ages where we regularly put a foot in and tackle until it’s a last ditch to stop a shot. We just jockey the opposition to force them to pass and try and nick the ball with interceptions or 50/50’s. I don’t think it’s just Town it’s the way the game is played now, but it’d be nice to see us actually competing to win the ball a bit more in the run in. Problem these days is it’s actually difficult to make a tackle and not to get pulled up by the ref. All the feigning of injury by players doesn’t help but the refs are just too eager (on the whole) to blow up. The art of tackling is fast becoming a lost art mores the pity. Glad I hung my boots up many years back as I’d have been booked every single week these days. |
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Post by townarentbest on Feb 27, 2023 10:45:57 GMT 1
Team - if fit for Coventry. Vaclik Pearson Lees Helik Lowton Hogg waghorn (it’s time for men) rudhoni Ruffels Hungbo ward Knockart. We wouldn't be *allowed* to play that team! |
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Post by goodbet on Feb 27, 2023 11:22:36 GMT 1
Team - if fit for Coventry. Vaclik Pearson Lees Helik Lowton Hogg waghorn (it’s time for men) rudhoni Ruffels Hungbo ward Knockart. We wouldn't be *allowed* to play that team! Don't we need 12 players to compete? |
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Post by jimmymcgill on Feb 27, 2023 11:42:21 GMT 1
We can't play Waghorn, ineligible like Lowton was this week .
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Feb 27, 2023 12:19:02 GMT 1
We can't play Waghorn, ineligible like Lowton was this week . Great news! |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 27, 2023 12:26:22 GMT 1
We can't play Waghorn, ineligible like Lowton was this week . Great news! Chelmsford Terrier - great handle right there lad!!  |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Feb 27, 2023 13:21:05 GMT 1
Yes I went yesterday which cost me money. And yes we were likely to loose. What I don’t get is the ‘free hit’ comments, said as a bit of a joke! It’s no joke when you have spent best part of 80 quid. Luckily all the other teams who played lost but I find it disrespectful when managers say it was a free hit and pretty much laugh as they say it. He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 27, 2023 13:37:05 GMT 1
Yes I went yesterday which cost me money. And yes we were likely to loose. What I don’t get is the ‘free hit’ comments, said as a bit of a joke! It’s no joke when you have spent best part of 80 quid. Luckily all the other teams who played lost but I find it disrespectful when managers say it was a free hit and pretty much laugh as they say it. He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. A 'free hit' to me means being able to have a go?? Not a  .... Heavy defeat without any real intent or desire is a lack of professionalism from all involved. If Coventry get 2 goals up, do we bring off our more important players and accept another 'free hit'. Its not about losing, its how we lost. It might come down to goal difference, losing by 4 wasnt bright. |
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Post by townrwe on Feb 27, 2023 13:49:50 GMT 1
Yes I went yesterday which cost me money. And yes we were likely to loose. What I don’t get is the ‘free hit’ comments, said as a bit of a joke! It’s no joke when you have spent best part of 80 quid. Luckily all the other teams who played lost but I find it disrespectful when managers say it was a free hit and pretty much laugh as they say it. He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. I thought we would go there and give them a tough game, not roll over and have our belly tickled. We literally didn't put a foot in all afternoon. Embarrassing, fozza would have at least made us compete despite his tactical limitations. Win on Saturday and Tuesday and its a masterclass. Lose and its game over for the season. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 27, 2023 14:14:57 GMT 1
He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. I thought we would go there and give them a tough game, not roll over and have our belly tickled. We literally didn't put a foot in all afternoon. Embarrassing, fozza would have at least made us compete despite his tactical limitations. Win on Saturday and Tuesday and its a masterclass. Lose and its game over for the season. I think it would've been about the same under Buzz. There were a good few games where our attacking output and presence in the opposition half was just as bad as against Burnley, against much worse sides |
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Post by townrwe on Feb 27, 2023 16:16:28 GMT 1
I thought we would go there and give them a tough game, not roll over and have our belly tickled. We literally didn't put a foot in all afternoon. Embarrassing, fozza would have at least made us compete despite his tactical limitations. Win on Saturday and Tuesday and its a masterclass. Lose and its game over for the season. I think it would've been about the same under Buzz. There were a good few games where our attacking output and presence in the opposition half was just as bad as against Burnley, against much worse sides Wasn't a game where we didn't lay even a kick on them... not sure of the stats, but I was astounded that we just gave them space to play without trying to break up play, feign injury, tactical fouls etc ? Make it as scrappy as possible. They were a superb team, but a degree of shithousing would have been appreciated. Not just standing off and watching them play wonderfully well. |
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Post by royrace on Feb 27, 2023 16:16:53 GMT 1
He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. A 'free hit' to me means being able to have a go?? Not a .... Heavy defeat without any real intent or desire is a lack of professionalism from all involved. If Coventry get 2 goals up, do we bring off our more important players and accept another 'free hit'. Its not about losing, its how we lost. It might come down to goal difference, losing by 4 wasnt bright. Seems to me he knows confidence is a major issue and he was keen from the outset to ensure a heavy defeat by Burnley wouldn't affect it. That said, I'm sure he was far from impressed with the manner of the defeat. It could have been worse I suppose, Norwich spanked us 7-0 recently. Nothing matters except for survival so no point dwelling on it. Coventry are a good side but so are Birmingham. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Feb 27, 2023 16:22:33 GMT 1
He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. I thought we would go there and give them a tough game, not roll over and have our belly tickled. We literally didn't put a foot in all afternoon. Embarrassing, fozza would have at least made us compete despite his tactical limitations. Win on Saturday and Tuesday and its a masterclass. Lose and its game over for the season. Yes of course he would. Some painfully short memories on here. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 27, 2023 16:44:59 GMT 1
I think it would've been about the same under Buzz. There were a good few games where our attacking output and presence in the opposition half was just as bad as against Burnley, against much worse sides Wasn't a game where we didn't lay even a kick on them... not sure of the stats, but I was astounded that we just gave them space to play without trying to break up play, feign injury, tactical fouls etc ? Make it as scrappy as possible. They were a superb team, but a degree of shithousing would have been appreciated. Not just standing off and watching them play wonderfully well. I agree that we were never completely dominated to that extent. It was a bit bizarre how passive we were in all areas of the pitch. I think under Fotheringham we'd have been a bit better in the defensive third, seen more of the ball in the middle but been very sloppy, and much of a muchness in the final third. I guess if we tried to shithouse it and get more stuck in we'd still have lost but with the possibility of more bookings or injuries. I can see the logic behind it but it's cowardly above all else. Flies in the face of what Warnock said last week about it being about entertaining the fans. All forgiven if we beat Coventry though |
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Post by softboy on Feb 27, 2023 17:02:32 GMT 1
Yes I went yesterday which cost me money. And yes we were likely to loose. What I don’t get is the ‘free hit’ comments, said as a bit of a joke! It’s no joke when you have spent best part of 80 quid. Luckily all the other teams who played lost but I find it disrespectful when managers say it was a free hit and pretty much laugh as they say it. He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 27, 2023 17:05:20 GMT 1
Wasn't a game where we didn't lay even a kick on them... not sure of the stats, but I was astounded that we just gave them space to play without trying to break up play, feign injury, tactical fouls etc ? Make it as scrappy as possible. They were a superb team, but a degree of shithousing would have been appreciated. Not just standing off and watching them play wonderfully well. I agree that we were never completely dominated to that extent. It was a bit bizarre how passive we were in all areas of the pitch. I think under Fotheringham we'd have been a bit better in the defensive third, seen more of the ball in the middle but been very sloppy, and much of a muchness in the final third. I guess if we tried to shithouse it and get more stuck in we'd still have lost but with the possibility of more bookings or injuries. I can see the logic behind it but it's cowardly above all else. Flies in the face of what Warnock said last week about it being about entertaining the fans. All forgiven if we beat Coventry though We needed a point more than Burnley actually needed 3. No idea how committed Burnley would have been to a difficult game, because it never happened. They will want to be injured much less than some of ours?? There will be some odd results involving Burnley, pity we were not one of them. |
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Post by softboy on Feb 27, 2023 17:05:44 GMT 1
I do find it difficult to base attending a game based on the Manager saying it’s a free hit so don’t bother going as we have settled for a defeat, the players know we have settled for a defeat. I will listen to Warnock more carefully in the future and if he mentions free hit again I’ll save my money and stay at home.
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Post by rockwall on Feb 27, 2023 18:56:52 GMT 1
I do find it difficult to base attending a game based on the Manager saying it’s a free hit so don’t bother going as we have settled for a defeat, the players know we have settled for a defeat. I will listen to Warnock more carefully in the future and if he mentions free hit again I’ll save my money and stay at home. Yes he said free hit. He also said any little niggles wouldn't play. He also said some would get minutes that haven't had much. What more would you want as a hint? |
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Post by softboy on Feb 27, 2023 19:11:23 GMT 1
I’m setting up to loose tomorrow as it’s a game I don’t really care about and if we get battered then that’s ok with me. Don’t bother going as I’m not really bothered whether we win or not. There will be more ‘free hits’ to come, I’ll tell you which games they are and it’s up to you whether you waste your money or not. That would do.
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Post by willo on Feb 27, 2023 19:14:29 GMT 1
I do find it difficult to base attending a game based on the Manager saying it’s a free hit so don’t bother going as we have settled for a defeat, the players know we have settled for a defeat. I will listen to Warnock more carefully in the future and if he mentions free hit again I’ll save my money and stay at home. Yes he said free hit. He also said any little niggles wouldn't play. He also said some would get minutes that haven't had much. What more would you want as a hint? He also said in his post match interview he found out more about his team v Burnley then he did v Birmingham. I can almost guarantee it’ll be a different story v Coventry and Brizzle to the Burnley game. |
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Post by softboy on Feb 27, 2023 19:45:43 GMT 1
Of course it will. Burnley was a free hit!
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Post by bigtruck on Feb 27, 2023 20:26:26 GMT 1
He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. I thought we would go there and give them a tough game, not roll over and have our belly tickled. We literally didn't put a foot in all afternoon. Embarrassing, fozza would have at least made us compete despite his tactical limitations. Win on Saturday and Tuesday and its a masterclass. Lose and its game over for the season. MF would have told us all before hand that we should win the game because he once went 60 minutes against Bayern Munich without conceding. We would have still lost 4-0 if not worse, we’d have just run around a lot more. Difference is MF would then have shafted players like Headley Kasumu Camara and Bilo by throwing them under the bus. Probably lost a couple to injuries/bookings and then not won a game for the rest of the season. |
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Post by runner76 on Feb 27, 2023 21:50:55 GMT 1
Call me crazy but I’ll take a draw. Hadn’t actually expected anything from his first three games (finding his feet, getting to know squad etc) and a win/lose/draw ratio will see us ok this season!!!
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Post by 28901 on Feb 27, 2023 23:12:45 GMT 1
Yes I went yesterday which cost me money. And yes we were likely to loose. What I don’t get is the ‘free hit’ comments, said as a bit of a joke! It’s no joke when you have spent best part of 80 quid. Luckily all the other teams who played lost but I find it disrespectful when managers say it was a free hit and pretty much laugh as they say it. He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. I disagree. Free hit doesn't means you don't even try or care |
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Post by turbo2 on Feb 27, 2023 23:21:51 GMT 1
Call me crazy but I’ll take a draw. Hadn’t actually expected anything from his first three games (finding his feet, getting to know squad etc) and a win/lose/draw ratio will see us ok this season!!! I think you are crazy. Looking at the fixtures these next two home games will be crucial to our attempts to survive. In the next 6 wba are the lowest ranked. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Feb 28, 2023 8:51:36 GMT 1
I’m setting up to loose tomorrow as it’s a game I don’t really care about and if we get battered then that’s ok with me. Don’t bother going as I’m not really bothered whether we win or not. There will be more ‘free hits’ to come, I’ll tell you which games they are and it’s up to you whether you waste your money or not. That would do. *lose |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Feb 28, 2023 8:52:35 GMT 1
He said the Burnley game was a 'free hit' in his first interview here so you can't say you weren't warned. I'd say more fool you for going and expecting anything other than a heavy defeat. I disagree. Free hit doesn't means you don't even try or care If you think that nobody cared or even tried on Sat then you are truly puddled. |
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Post by townrwe on Feb 28, 2023 9:27:40 GMT 1
I disagree. Free hit doesn't means you don't even try or care If you think that nobody cared or even tried on Sat then you are truly puddled. It was the strange don't tackle, don't really waste time, break up the game, save yourself approach that was the issue. They ran around relatively haplessly like they had under fozzy without any of the fight, but the same tactical idea. |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Feb 28, 2023 10:44:30 GMT 1
I think Coventry's game away at Preston tonight will go a long way in determining how their mindset will be for their game against us. Lose tonight against a team with the second-worst home record in the division and they'll surely begin to doubt their credentials of a team hoping to be in the Top 6 come May. Win, and we'll have a really tough task against them. Although, I'm sure it won't escape Warnock's notice how easily we contained them in the first half at Coventry a few weeks back.
Going to be interesting at least. Heart says 2-1 to us if Preston win against them tonight, head says a draw. Can't really see us losing, though we need more than just one point here and there at this stage of the season. Massive game, can't wait.
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Post by digs on Feb 28, 2023 12:27:01 GMT 1
I think Coventry's game away at Preston tonight will go a long way in determining how their mindset will be for their game against us. Lose tonight against a team with the second-worst home record in the division and they'll surely begin to doubt their credentials of a team hoping to be in the Top 6 come May. Win, and we'll have a really tough task against them. Although, I'm sure it won't escape Warnock's notice how easily we contained them in the first half at Coventry a few weeks back. Going to be interesting at least. Heart says 2-1 to us if Preston win against them tonight, head says a draw. Can't really see us losing, though we need more than just one point here and there at this stage of the season. Massive game, can't wait. We struggle in every game we play,tonight's game will have no bearing on Saturdays match at all. |
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