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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Mar 6, 2023 11:41:07 GMT 1
Still no Access All(some) Areas video? The Town media are following the USSR template. maybe there wasn't a game on Saturday, and we just imagined it. No player interviews anywhere either.
They sill managed to saend me an email yesterday, asking me to buy tickets for Tuesday's game whilst I can :-()
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Post by 28901 on Mar 7, 2023 0:56:46 GMT 1
Still no Access All(some) Areas video? The Town media are following the USSR template. maybe there wasn't a game on Saturday, and we just imagined it. No player interviews anywhere either. They sill managed to saend me an email yesterday, asking me to buy tickets for Tuesday's game whilst I can :-() You'll have been over it by 5 o clock anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 23:12:36 GMT 1
I just don't see where we go from here, yesterday was a real huge hammer blow, the players arengood enough, if Warnock can't get a tune out of them then we're fooked. If Warnock finds a way to get the points required from this group it will be his best ever achievement in management. I have seldom seen such ineptitude from a group of Town players. The lack of base ability, required at this level, was genuinely shocking. I know we have been poor all season but yesterday laid bear how utterly hopeless we are, and our situation is. Where do we go from here? League One is the obvious destination, and we'll deserve it. It requires a real footballing miracle for this to turn round. Well, miracles do happen. The pessimism abound on this thread was 100% justified. The greatest of escapes we’ll ever see (hopefully!). |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 23:56:24 GMT 1
Have to agree, would be interested to see which games these 17 points are coming from!!. Yep, not a chance can we go from accruing 0.9 points a game to 1.4. No we only went and got 1.6 ! |
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Post by 66738 on May 5, 2023 7:19:06 GMT 1
Get 48 points, if we still go down, well tough titties Not a chance. Dreamland Pretty much what we all thought. We were gone. Absolutely unbelievable recovery. |
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Post by kennyk2 on May 5, 2023 7:26:25 GMT 1
As Steve Chicken says in his article regarding this season... he cannot find anything in the record of a team so far adrift at the foot of the table escaping relegation (with some ease).
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Post by Sio on May 5, 2023 7:55:05 GMT 1
Pretty much what we all thought. We were gone. Absolutely unbelievable recovery. That was after either Bristol City or Coventry - after which, walking back to my car, I rang my partner explaining to her that we were relegated, what that meant etc. Wasn't even my usual pessimism, rather complete reality. Crazy what we've done since then. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 8:03:21 GMT 1
Pretty much what we all thought. We were gone. Absolutely unbelievable recovery. That was after either Bristol City or Coventry - after which, walking back to my car, I rang my partner explaining to her that we were relegated, what that meant etc. Wasn't even my usual pessimism, rather complete reality. Crazy what we've done since then. Think the Bristol result was probably the beginning of the wheel turning. He set us up not to play football, but stem the tide after the Coventry pummelling. A dire watch, but the second half gradually improved to the point we could and should have won. Same with the Norwich game, then we went to Milwall and got the win that really gave us belief. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on May 5, 2023 8:12:07 GMT 1
For me the low point was halftime v Norwich. A miserable night, a poor crowd and we’d hardly touched the ball. I turned to my wife at half-time and said I couldn’t see us scoring another goal this season, never mind pick up any points.
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Post by araucaria on May 5, 2023 9:04:12 GMT 1
As Steve Chicken says in his article regarding this season... he cannot find anything in the record of a team so far adrift at the foot of the table escaping relegation (with some ease). Then he needs to look at Town's 1992-93 season; 13 points from the first 21 matches, 22 from 29 when Buxton returned, still needing snookers, safe with several games to go. Perhaps he is just looking at the Championship. Neil joins Mick and Jacko as managers who've won us promotion(s) AND saved us from relegation from desperate positions. Next time - and I hope there isn't one - we face the 2nd team in the division at home in the 45th match needing something from the game to stay up, perhaps we can remember that we've succeeded on the last two occasions and not default to the 'oh it's Town, it'll go to the last day' bollocks. And that's not to suggest that I was anything other than a nervous wreck until a few minutes into the second half. And why is it that, almost always, in the last 60 years, that the last day excitement is at home (as it might have been on Monday)? Last day away drama? Fulham, failure to reach the play-offs and Cheltenham. At home, I can think of at least 9 last day trials, 5 at the top and 4 at the bottom, starting with Coventry in 1966 with the last one being Barnsley 10 years ago. |
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Post by paulmat on May 5, 2023 9:15:13 GMT 1
As Steve Chicken says in his article regarding this season... he cannot find anything in the record of a team so far adrift at the foot of the table escaping relegation (with some ease). Then he needs to look at Town's 1992-93 season; 13 points from the first 21 matches, 22 from 29 when Buxton returned, still needing snookers, safe with several games to go. Perhaps he is just looking at the Championship. Neil joins Mick and Jacko as managers who've won us promotion(s) AND saved us from relegation from desperate positions. Next time - and I hope there isn't one - we face the 2nd team in the division at home in the 45th match needing something from the game to stay up, perhaps we can remember that we've succeeded on the last two occasions and not default to the 'oh it's Town, it'll go to the last day' bollocks. And that's not to suggest that I was anything other than a nervous wreck until a few minutes into the second half. And why is it that, almost always, in the last 60 years, that the last day excitement is at home (as it might have been on Monday)? Last day away drama? Fulham, failure to reach the play-offs and Cheltenham. At home, I can think of at least 9 last day trials, 5 at the top and 4 at the bottom, starting with Coventry in 1966 with the last one being Barnsley 10 years ago. He was looking at 2nd tier sides being 7 points adrift with 12 games to go |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 5, 2023 9:18:45 GMT 1
For me the low point was halftime v Norwich. A miserable night, a poor crowd and we’d hardly touched the ball. I turned to my wife at half-time and said I couldn’t see us scoring another goal this season, never mind pick up any points. I think it says it all, when that competition for 2 free ST’s came out and it was which game (& minute I think) we’d score our next headed goal. It must have been 5 games after they launched the competition. I was in the ‘not sure NW is a great idea’ camp, but there’s not many other explanations for it really. We didn’t all of a sudden get half a team back, he just cajoled a bunch of nervous & shot players, into realising they could actually play decent football at times. The Coventry & Bristol C games were the ones I thought we’d had it, what do I know. |
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Post by dugnet on May 9, 2023 14:42:34 GMT 1
If Warnock finds a way to get the points required from this group it will be his best ever achievement in management. I have seldom seen such ineptitude from a group of Town players. The lack of base ability, required at this level, was genuinely shocking. I know we have been poor all season but yesterday laid bear how utterly hopeless we are, and our situation is. Where do we go from here? League One is the obvious destination, and we'll deserve it. It requires a real footballing miracle for this to turn round. Well, miracles do happen. The pessimism abound on this thread was 100% justified. The greatest of escapes we’ll ever see (hopefully!). And so it was proved - a truly miraculous turn around. My original post is a reminder of how bad things had got. There are lessons from this, and other recent seasons. I guess the biggest lesson is that mindset and man management can take you a long way. Back against Coventry I couldn't see a recovery, I was wrong (and I don't mind being wrong). Whoever takes us on needs to understand the personality of the dressing room and the identity he wants from his team. That will need to be underpinned by stability from Mr Nagle and his new team. Much to build on but also many things to learn from and avoid. |
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