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Post by willo on Mar 27, 2023 23:56:29 GMT 1
This is dragging on. Anyone any idea when a decision will actually be made?
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Post by Convictatthemac on Mar 28, 2023 2:16:34 GMT 1
As I understand it (which numerous people have mentioned previously) whilst they have a 6 point penalty hanging over them they are in ‘negotiation’with the EFL as to what the punishment is and when it will be applied. I cannot see them agreeing to take 6 points this season if their form continues so I’m guessing they will string things out and perhaps take it on the chin at the beginning of next season. Or if they are 7 points above relegation with 2 games left Given that the 12 points penalty they incurred last season would have relegated Reading, thereby saving Peterbro', it would seem ridiculous that the deferred 6 points that saved them, will again be deferred and potentially save them again.. What's going on here ? This is where a twitter campaign needs to be started pointing this out. Put enough pressure on them by bringing this exact scenario to everyone’s, including the media, attention, there’s a chance they’ll cave under public scrutiny. While nothing much is made of it, it’ll rumble on in the background and be applied when it’s convenient. |
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Post by runner76 on Mar 28, 2023 10:10:05 GMT 1
This is dragging on. Anyone any idea when a decision will actually be made? No |
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Post by workshyfop on Mar 28, 2023 10:20:51 GMT 1
I suspect if we lose Saturday and the bottom three are cut adrift, it’ll be announced then. EFL are complete bottle jobs.
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Post by detox on Mar 28, 2023 11:05:17 GMT 1
I am Tweeting efl but of course nobody responds to my constant wittering...maybe they don't even read tweets they get..maybe they do...but my vast number of followers (haha) might retweet, and thereby spread the messages far and wide.. Don't know what else you can do tbh..perhaps tag a daily paper or something... or just be patient and hope Town can just win the required points anyway.. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 28, 2023 11:27:51 GMT 1
The date they were found guilty of breaching the rules, should be the date the points are deducted from, given the games have continued since?  If we accept they are no longer committing the offences then the penalty HAS to cover the period when they were committing the offences??? If, its a big if, City are found guilty then the penalties must cover the period of the offences and any financial penalty must reflect the money made whilst commiting the offences. |
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Post by prepare on Mar 28, 2023 11:28:16 GMT 1
I am Tweeting efl but of course nobody responds to my constant wittering...maybe they don't even read tweets they get..maybe they do...but my vast number of followers (haha) might retweet, and thereby spread the messages far and wide.. Don't know what else you can do tbh..perhaps tag a daily paper or something... or just be patient and hope Town can just win the required points anyway.. agree there is nowt we can do about it but could well be as some are saying waiting till reading get more points I certainly woudnt put it beyond the efl |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Mar 28, 2023 11:49:11 GMT 1
I am Tweeting efl but of course nobody responds to my constant wittering...maybe they don't even read tweets they get..maybe they do...but my vast number of followers (haha) might retweet, and thereby spread the messages far and wide.. Don't know what else you can do tbh..perhaps tag a daily paper or something... or just be patient and hope Town can just win the required points anyway.. Yeah they are never going to respond, but definitely tagging in the lowest of the low like the daily mail and the sun who love writing non factual stories to hype up a situation, it’s definitely up their alley. |
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Post by softboy on Mar 28, 2023 13:50:32 GMT 1
Reading have clearly decided they are not prepared to accept any points now (which I fully understand) so why don’t the EFL just accept this!
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 28, 2023 15:57:46 GMT 1
I doubt its a case of reading simply not accepting the 6 point deduction.
Id imagine its that their legal people are not accepting that whatever they are being fined the 6 points for is justified...ie they feel they can show that they have actually done what they were supposed to do to avoid this suspended penalty being activated.
Problem is, that can take long time to unravel.
They could still get this 6 points at any time up to the end of the season IMO.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 28, 2023 17:14:15 GMT 1
I doubt its a case of reading simply not accepting the 6 point deduction. Id imagine its that their legal people are not accepting that whatever they are being fined the 6 points for is justified...ie they feel they can show that they have actually done what they were supposed to do to avoid this suspended penalty being activated. Problem is, that can take long time to unravel. They could still get this 6 points at any time up to the end of the season IMO. Its unfair given the games for everyone just carry on. Reading get 2 wins, other teams get zero, take the hit then??? Reading get 2 points, keep delaying? The deduction should have been on the day they were found guilty. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 28, 2023 17:45:29 GMT 1
I doubt its a case of reading simply not accepting the 6 point deduction. Id imagine its that their legal people are not accepting that whatever they are being fined the 6 points for is justified...ie they feel they can show that they have actually done what they were supposed to do to avoid this suspended penalty being activated. Problem is, that can take long time to unravel. They could still get this 6 points at any time up to the end of the season IMO. Imagine it being applied in the last week of the season, and it drops them below the dreaded red line… I suspect they’re fighting tooth & nail, surely their Mgr wants clarity on this as do their players. If I were their Mgr I’d be trying to get them to envision a league table that has it applied and they have more games to fight for it. Football and lawyers are becoming far more regular bedfellows nowadays, which is all a bit shite really… |
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Post by DuffMan on Mar 28, 2023 19:37:35 GMT 1
Taking the piss is this now. When are they gonna make a decision on Reading
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Post by ronaldinio on Mar 28, 2023 21:55:32 GMT 1
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Post by mosher on Mar 29, 2023 13:30:50 GMT 1
I hope town are not due a points deduction for the late accounts. Does anyone know about that? There's hardly anyone left to negotiate for the club here while it's in due process. And how the feck did we manage to put our accounts in late anyway? Despite some MSM reporting otherwise, there is NO points punishment for submitting accounts late. Some publications saw that we were under the threat of administration, were under threat of points deductions (because of administration, not late accounts) and were under a transfer embargo due to late accounts submission and put 2 and 2 together and came up with 42. Burnley have done the same, as did a few clubs last season and the season before. I've only noticed it happening since lockdown, but no doubt these transfer embargoes happen more often than we hear about. |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 29, 2023 16:17:11 GMT 1
If teams get deducted points and I helps our plight, happy days, we all know how the EFL and EPL operate by now!!, Town just have to go out and try to collect as many points in the games remaining to survive, if another club gets deducted points and it works in our favour, happy days!!!☺☺, then it's onto next seasons circus run by the clueless EFL and EPL.
The game needs a complete overhaul, not saying the good old days were the best, there were many issues back then also, but fans are walking away from the modern day game in large numbers and it's so sad to see.
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Post by sabailand on Mar 29, 2023 16:44:48 GMT 1
If teams get deducted points and I helps our plight, happy days, we all know how the EFL and EPL operate by now!!, Town just have to go out and try to collect as many points in the games remaining to survive, if another club gets deducted points and it works in our favour, happy days!!!☺☺, then it's onto next seasons circus run by the clueless EFL and EPL. The game needs a complete overhaul, not saying the good old days were the best, there were many issues back then also, but fans are walking away from the modern day game in large numbers and it's so sad to see. Dont disagree with the jist of your post but not sure about the last bit, some might be walking away from the modern game but generally attendance wise its quite healthy. |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 29, 2023 16:59:48 GMT 1
If teams get deducted points and I helps our plight, happy days, we all know how the EFL and EPL operate by now!!, Town just have to go out and try to collect as many points in the games remaining to survive, if another club gets deducted points and it works in our favour, happy days!!!☺☺, then it's onto next seasons circus run by the clueless EFL and EPL. The game needs a complete overhaul, not saying the good old days were the best, there were many issues back then also, but fans are walking away from the modern day game in large numbers and it's so sad to see. Dont disagree with the jist of your post but not sure about the last bit, some might be walking away from the modern game but generally attendance wise its quite healthy. Season ticket prices are a lot better our days, in 80s probably got 2 games chucked in for nothing, so had to to go to all games really to benefit, Town fans been spoilt by cheap season ticket prices, as have other clubs, walk up prices are out of the average working family wanting to just watch a 1 off game, we all love footie, probably always will, but unfortunately the game cannot carry on in the format it is operating in at the moment. |
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Post by 28901 on Mar 29, 2023 17:09:40 GMT 1
Dont disagree with the jist of your post but not sure about the last bit, some might be walking away from the modern game but generally attendance wise its quite healthy. Season ticket prices are a lot better our days, in 80s probably got 2 games chucked in for nothing, so had to to go to all games really to benefit, Town fans been spoilt by cheap season ticket prices, as have other clubs, walk up prices are out of the average working family wanting to just watch a 1 off game, we all love footie, probably always will, but unfortunately the game cannot carry on in the format it is operating in at the moment. The crowds they announce no longer bear any resemblance to the actual attendance. Every champ game I watch on tv has empty seats all over but the average is still high. Not only that but saturation coverage means hardly anyone is watching the live games on tv anymore. |
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Post by sabailand on Mar 29, 2023 17:10:00 GMT 1
Dont disagree with the jist of your post but not sure about the last bit, some might be walking away from the modern game but generally attendance wise its quite healthy. Season ticket prices are a lot better our days, in 80s probably got 2 games chucked in for nothing, so had to to go to all games really to benefit, Town fans been spoilt by cheap season ticket prices, as have other clubs, walk up prices are out of the average working family wanting to just watch a 1 off game, we all love footie, probably always will, but unfortunately the game cannot carry on in the format it is operating in at the moment. One things for sure, it'll be interesting to see how the new ownership affects ST prices, theres still another year to go on the privelage scheme (for those who didnt request money back during lockdown), wonder if it will be honoured or not, even if it isnt we cant complain too much, i was paying loads more for my seat years ago than i have these last few seasons. |
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Post by bluestripe on Mar 29, 2023 17:30:41 GMT 1
Season ticket prices are a lot better our days, in 80s probably got 2 games chucked in for nothing, so had to to go to all games really to benefit, Town fans been spoilt by cheap season ticket prices, as have other clubs, walk up prices are out of the average working family wanting to just watch a 1 off game, we all love footie, probably always will, but unfortunately the game cannot carry on in the format it is operating in at the moment. One things for sure, it'll be interesting to see how the new ownership affects ST prices, theres still another year to go on the privelage scheme (for those who didnt request money back during lockdown), wonder if it will be honoured or not, even if it isnt we cant complain too much, i was paying loads more for my seat years ago than i have these last few seasons. You do realise you are referring to Town fans here 🤪 |
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Post by sabailand on Mar 29, 2023 17:50:20 GMT 1
One things for sure, it'll be interesting to see how the new ownership affects ST prices, theres still another year to go on the privelage scheme (for those who didnt request money back during lockdown), wonder if it will be honoured or not, even if it isnt we cant complain too much, i was paying loads more for my seat years ago than i have these last few seasons. You do realise you are referring to Town fans here 🤪 Yes you do have a point tbf. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2023 21:28:38 GMT 1
Season ticket prices are a lot better our days, in 80s probably got 2 games chucked in for nothing, so had to to go to all games really to benefit, Town fans been spoilt by cheap season ticket prices, as have other clubs, walk up prices are out of the average working family wanting to just watch a 1 off game, we all love footie, probably always will, but unfortunately the game cannot carry on in the format it is operating in at the moment. One things for sure, it'll be interesting to see how the new ownership affects ST prices, theres still another year to go on the privelage scheme (for those who didnt request money back during lockdown), wonder if it will be honoured or not, even if it isnt we cant complain too much, i was paying loads more for my seat years ago than i have these last few seasons. It would be strange move by a new owner to piss loads of fans off by reneging on that promise. It’s the last season so I would think it is better to take the hit and keep the goodwill. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 29, 2023 22:14:20 GMT 1
One things for sure, it'll be interesting to see how the new ownership affects ST prices, theres still another year to go on the privelage scheme (for those who didnt request money back during lockdown), wonder if it will be honoured or not, even if it isnt we cant complain too much, i was paying loads more for my seat years ago than i have these last few seasons. It would be strange move by a new owner to piss loads of fans off by reneging on that promise. It’s the last season so I would think it is better to take the hit and keep the goodwill. Especially after what we have endured this season. I would hope that they will honour the one remaining year. |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 29, 2023 22:58:35 GMT 1
Season ticket prices are a lot better our days, in 80s probably got 2 games chucked in for nothing, so had to to go to all games really to benefit, Town fans been spoilt by cheap season ticket prices, as have other clubs, walk up prices are out of the average working family wanting to just watch a 1 off game, we all love footie, probably always will, but unfortunately the game cannot carry on in the format it is operating in at the moment. The crowds they announce no longer bear any resemblance to the actual attendance. Every champ game I watch on tv has empty seats all over but the average is still high. Not only that but saturation coverage means hardly anyone is watching the live games on tv anymore. Bradford won't accept that even though we all know that is true facts like you state in your post!! |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 29, 2023 23:02:27 GMT 1
Season ticket prices are a lot better our days, in 80s probably got 2 games chucked in for nothing, so had to to go to all games really to benefit, Town fans been spoilt by cheap season ticket prices, as have other clubs, walk up prices are out of the average working family wanting to just watch a 1 off game, we all love footie, probably always will, but unfortunately the game cannot carry on in the format it is operating in at the moment. One things for sure, it'll be interesting to see how the new ownership affects ST prices, theres still another year to go on the privelage scheme (for those who didnt request money back during lockdown), wonder if it will be honoured or not, even if it isnt we cant complain too much, i was paying loads more for my seat years ago than i have these last few seasons. Be well surprised if the last season 249 is not honoured. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Mar 30, 2023 17:15:41 GMT 1
To be replayed. Full 90 mins.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 30, 2023 17:39:35 GMT 1
Changes everything. Although their fixtures are kinder than ours and there's always the risk it creates a seige mentality for them. |
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