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Post by stable on Mar 25, 2023 12:22:04 GMT 1
The Wigan situation worries me in that it could potentially make things more difficult for us - They have several relegation rivals to play and if their motivation drops they could well be handing points out for toffee.
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Post by detox on Mar 25, 2023 12:29:52 GMT 1
The Wigan situation worries me in that it could potentially make things more difficult for us - They have several relegation rivals to play and if their motivation drops they could well be handing points out for toffee. stop fretting....their players will be tring even harder hoping for another club to come in and rescue them..
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Post by softboy on Mar 25, 2023 12:40:57 GMT 1
Particularly as there last 2 games are Reading and Rotherham. If they have good agents they will probably have new contracts elsewhere lined up by then so they are not going to risk injury. If they don’t have anything sorted those out of contract are highly unlikely to risk injury. So I agree could be detrimental to us.
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 25, 2023 13:59:34 GMT 1
I see both sides of this situation - It’s The Championship so who knows what on earth will pan out for any team...
Things will me thinks go to the very last day especially at the bottom of the league anyway -
Just more drama that undoubtedly (in ma humble opinion) makes The Championship the best and most competitive and unforgiving league on the planet !
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Mar 25, 2023 16:18:32 GMT 1
The Wigan situation worries me in that it could potentially make things more difficult for us - They have several relegation rivals to play and if their motivation drops they could well be handing points out for toffee. You mean like we've been doing all season?
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Post by detox on Mar 27, 2023 11:45:17 GMT 1
I see both sides of this situation - It’s The Championship so who knows what on earth will pan out for any team... Things will me thinks go to the very last day especially at the bottom of the league anyway - Just more drama that undoubtedly (in ma humble opinion) makes The Championship the best and most competitive and unforgiving league on the planet ! I have this vision of Town v Reading being a relegation decider...we get another sheet ref...and then that blooming Andy Carroll comes on as a sub, and scores the crucial goal for Reading despite battering our keeper and CB into the back of the net at the same time...no foul says the ref...goal given.
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Post by Stewpot on Mar 27, 2023 11:54:04 GMT 1
I don't mind if we go down fair and square, well I do, but I wonder if my recent raised hopefulness is misplaced.
I still have a horrible feeling the Blackpool "ghost goal" will come back to haunt us!
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 27, 2023 11:58:20 GMT 1
You'll be feeling a lot better chaps once we've got the 3 points off Boro on Saturday.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Mar 27, 2023 11:59:31 GMT 1
I see both sides of this situation - It’s The Championship so who knows what on earth will pan out for any team... Things will me thinks go to the very last day especially at the bottom of the league anyway - Just more drama that undoubtedly (in ma humble opinion) makes The Championship the best and most competitive and unforgiving league on the planet ! I have this vision of Town v Reading being a relegation decider...we get another sheet ref...and then that blooming Andy Carroll comes on as a sub, and scores the crucial goal for Reading despite battering our keeper and CB into the back of the net at the same time...no foul says the ref...goal given. I had a different vision, John Moss gets pulled out of retirement and gives us a penalty out of nowhere. Reading denied a stonewall penalty and a perfect legitimate goal by Carroll from a corner ruled out for a foul that nobody can identify. Moss goes on a 5 star, 3 month Greek Island holiday while Dean is seen on the big Greek’s super yacht.
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Post by huddshroom on Mar 27, 2023 12:19:19 GMT 1
Are Reading not getting this deduction anymore then?
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Post by softboy on Mar 27, 2023 12:47:42 GMT 1
As I understand it (which numerous people have mentioned previously) whilst they have a 6 point penalty hanging over them they are in ‘negotiation’with the EFL as to what the punishment is and when it will be applied. I cannot see them agreeing to take 6 points this season if their form continues so I’m guessing they will string things out and perhaps take it on the chin at the beginning of next season. Or if they are 7 points above relegation with 2 games left
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Post by rockwall on Mar 27, 2023 13:08:14 GMT 1
As I understand it (which numerous people have mentioned previously) whilst they have a 6 point penalty hanging over them they are in ‘negotiation’with the EFL as to what the punishment is and when it will be applied. I cannot see them agreeing to take 6 points this season if their form continues so I’m guessing they will string things out and perhaps take it on the chin at the beginning of next season. Or if they are 7 points above relegation with 2 games left EFL should give them 2 options. 1. Take 6 now 2. Take 12 next season.
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Post by detox on Mar 27, 2023 13:09:09 GMT 1
As I understand it (which numerous people have mentioned previously) whilst they have a 6 point penalty hanging over them they are in ‘negotiation’with the EFL as to what the punishment is and when it will be applied. I cannot see them agreeing to take 6 points this season if their form continues so I’m guessing they will string things out and perhaps take it on the chin at the beginning of next season. Or if they are 7 points above relegation with 2 games left Given that the 12 points penalty they incurred last season would have relegated Reading, thereby saving Peterbro', it would seem ridiculous that the deferred 6 points that saved them, will again be deferred and potentially save them again.. What's going on here ?
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Post by yeti1975 on Mar 27, 2023 13:12:06 GMT 1
As I understand it (which numerous people have mentioned previously) whilst they have a 6 point penalty hanging over them they are in ‘negotiation’with the EFL as to what the punishment is and when it will be applied. I cannot see them agreeing to take 6 points this season if their form continues so I’m guessing they will string things out and perhaps take it on the chin at the beginning of next season. Or if they are 7 points above relegation with 2 games left EFL should give them 2 options. 1. Take 6 now 2. Take 12 next season. Why should they even get a choice? They knew the punishment for breaking the rules yet did it again, the 6 points that are suspended should be enforced immediately, the only negotiation they get should be regarding the punishment for this latest transgression! It shouldn't be this complicated 🙄
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Post by softboy on Mar 27, 2023 14:25:57 GMT 1
Perhaps they haven’t quite done enough to take the 6 points automatically or they have good lawyers who have found a loophole in the punishment.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 27, 2023 15:15:22 GMT 1
As I understand it (which numerous people have mentioned previously) whilst they have a 6 point penalty hanging over them they are in ‘negotiation’with the EFL as to what the punishment is and when it will be applied. I cannot see them agreeing to take 6 points this season if their form continues so I’m guessing they will string things out and perhaps take it on the chin at the beginning of next season. Or if they are 7 points above relegation with 2 games left Given that the 12 points penalty they incurred last season would have relegated Reading, thereby saving Peterbro', it would seem ridiculous that the deferred 6 points that saved them, will again be deferred and potentially save them again.. What's going on here ? 3 Northern teams in the bottom 3, plus some Taffs and another northern team also in the mix?
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Post by goodbet on Mar 27, 2023 16:00:09 GMT 1
As I understand it (which numerous people have mentioned previously) whilst they have a 6 point penalty hanging over them they are in ‘negotiation’with the EFL as to what the punishment is and when it will be applied. I cannot see them agreeing to take 6 points this season if their form continues so I’m guessing they will string things out and perhaps take it on the chin at the beginning of next season. Or if they are 7 points above relegation with 2 games left Given that the 12 points penalty they incurred last season would have relegated Reading, thereby saving Peterbro', it would seem ridiculous that the deferred 6 points that saved them, will again be deferred and potentially save them again.. What's going on here ? Southern team will get away with it. If it was us we would get 12points.
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Post by sabailand on Mar 27, 2023 16:34:51 GMT 1
Negotiation with the EFL as to their punishment, that just takes the piss out of what is supposed to be some kind of punishment, what a fkn joke.
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Post by rockwall on Mar 27, 2023 17:39:58 GMT 1
EFL should give them 2 options. 1. Take 6 now 2. Take 12 next season. Why should they even get a choice? They knew the punishment for breaking the rules yet did it again, the 6 points that are suspended should be enforced immediately, the only negotiation they get should be regarding the punishment for this latest transgression! It shouldn't be this complicated 🙄 They shouldn't. But are obviously getting some say due to negotiations. So if that is the case, that would be what I would do.
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Post by detox on Mar 27, 2023 17:43:28 GMT 1
Negotiation with the EFL as to their punishment, that just takes the piss out of what is supposed to be some kind of punishment, what a fkn joke. I assume Reading are pleading innocence, but by all I've read they've pretty much said they've cocked up and the 6 points are coming..that was early March. So what's the debate about with the EFL given this was 'last seasons' punishment, but the EFL must have accepted some mitigation by deferring 6 points and told them to stick to the rules.. Well they haven't , so let's just get it done so we all know where we're at ffs..
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 27, 2023 17:46:37 GMT 1
Why should they even get a choice? They knew the punishment for breaking the rules yet did it again, the 6 points that are suspended should be enforced immediately, the only negotiation they get should be regarding the punishment for this latest transgression! It shouldn't be this complicated 🙄 They shouldn't. But are obviously getting some say due to negotiations. So if that is the case, that would be what I would do. EFL are too soft, scared of comebacks when they sanction these clubs, rules are rules, if you break them take the punishment, unfortunately the modern game is a circus, so sad to see the game going to the dogs.
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Post by Tez on Mar 27, 2023 18:39:52 GMT 1
Negotiation with the EFL as to their punishment, that just takes the piss out of what is supposed to be some kind of punishment, what a fkn joke. I assume Reading are pleading innocence, but by all I've read they've pretty much said they've cocked up and the 6 points are coming..that was early March. So what's the debate about with the EFL given this was 'last seasons' punishment, but the EFL must have accepted some mitigation by deferring 6 points and told them to stick to the rules.. Well they haven't , so let's just get it done so we all know where we're at ffs.. It’s a complete joke. If it’s next seasons total it’s taken off when the offence was last season? 🤣🤦🏼♂️
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 27, 2023 19:25:03 GMT 1
I assume Reading are pleading innocence, but by all I've read they've pretty much said they've cocked up and the 6 points are coming..that was early March. So what's the debate about with the EFL given this was 'last seasons' punishment, but the EFL must have accepted some mitigation by deferring 6 points and told them to stick to the rules.. Well they haven't , so let's just get it done so we all know where we're at ffs.. It’s a complete joke. If it’s next seasons total it’s taken off when the offence was last season? 🤣🤦🏼♂️ Like you say it's a complete joke, as are the EFL.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Mar 27, 2023 19:43:41 GMT 1
Given that the 12 points penalty they incurred last season would have relegated Reading, thereby saving Peterbro', it would seem ridiculous that the deferred 6 points that saved them, will again be deferred and potentially save them again.. What's going on here ? Southern team will get away with it. If it was us we would get 12points. It's not all wonderful south of Chesterfield. Perhaps you should visit. Reading even has a Labour council. There are chancy club owners and lawyers everywhere, even in H.....
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Post by mrg on Mar 27, 2023 19:57:02 GMT 1
I hope town are not due a points deduction for the late accounts. Does anyone know about that? There's hardly anyone left to negotiate for the club here while it's in due process. And how the feck did we manage to put our accounts in late anyway?
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 27, 2023 20:23:15 GMT 1
I hope town are not due a points deduction for the late accounts. Does anyone know about that? There's hardly anyone left to negotiate for the club here while it's in due process. And how the feck did we manage to put our accounts in late anyway? Because of the takeover 🤔. The transfer embargo is the punishment not a points deduction
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Post by Tez on Mar 27, 2023 20:26:38 GMT 1
I hope town are not due a points deduction for the late accounts. Does anyone know about that? There's hardly anyone left to negotiate for the club here while it's in due process. And how the feck did we manage to put our accounts in late anyway? Late accounts punishment = transfer embargo
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Post by stevvy on Mar 27, 2023 20:45:32 GMT 1
It's criminal (not literally, obviously) that you can negotiate a punishment, have an 'agreed' decision. Should be a case of "right, you broke the rules, this is your punishment" and that's literally it.
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 27, 2023 21:41:19 GMT 1
As I understand it (which numerous people have mentioned previously) whilst they have a 6 point penalty hanging over them they are in ‘negotiation’with the EFL as to what the punishment is and when it will be applied. I cannot see them agreeing to take 6 points this season if their form continues so I’m guessing they will string things out and perhaps take it on the chin at the beginning of next season. Or if they are 7 points above relegation with 2 games left Given that the 12 points penalty they incurred last season would have relegated Reading, thereby saving Peterbro', it would seem ridiculous that the deferred 6 points that saved them, will again be deferred and potentially save them again.. What's going on here ? Only the EFL can answer that I'm afraid, ain't holding out any hopes of a rational answer anytime soon!!.
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Post by mrg on Mar 27, 2023 23:26:22 GMT 1
I hope town are not due a points deduction for the late accounts. Does anyone know about that? There's hardly anyone left to negotiate for the club here while it's in due process. And how the feck did we manage to put our accounts in late anyway? Late accounts punishment = transfer embargo Ok cool thanks, so transfer embargo till the summer when the window opens? Does it just mean no frees?
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