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Post by softboy on Mar 31, 2023 15:54:51 GMT 1
As I understand the situation having seen BBC Sport and the local Reading paper the EFL have been reviewing whether Reading have breached the terms of their suspended points deduction and have referred the matter to an Indepedant Panel. If innocent no punishment, if guilty then the Panel will recommend the punishment and the EFL will negotiate with Reading what the actual points deduction (if any) is. Perhaps they have broken only half the terms of the agreement and are looking for 3 points or still involved in legal arguments that may will drag into next season
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Post by detox on Mar 31, 2023 16:04:07 GMT 1
As I understand the situation having seen BBC Sport and the local Reading paper the EFL have been reviewing whether Reading have breached the terms of their suspended points deduction and have referred the matter to an Indepedant Panel. If innocent no punishment, if guilty then the Panel will recommend the punishment and the EFL will negotiate with Reading what the actual points deduction (if any) is. Perhaps they have broken only half the terms of the agreement and are looking for 3 points or still involved in legal arguments that may will drag into next season Farcical process and gutless EFL passing decision on is a cop out. Think we can forget this as it'll drag on and on and on |
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Post by mosher on Mar 31, 2023 16:06:58 GMT 1
As I understand the situation having seen BBC Sport and the local Reading paper the EFL have been reviewing whether Reading have breached the terms of their suspended points deduction and have referred the matter to an Indepedant Panel. If innocent no punishment, if guilty then the Panel will recommend the punishment and the EFL will negotiate with Reading what the actual points deduction (if any) is. Perhaps they have broken only half the terms of the agreement and are looking for 3 points or still involved in legal arguments that may will drag into next season Farcical process and gutless EFL passing decision on is a cop out. Think we can forget this as it'll drag on and on and on Complete and utter farce as you say. They're the governing body, they own each club's shares, BE THE GOVERNING BODY!!! Having said that, maybe they're so gutless they're just covering their arses to stop a lengthy legal proceeding. They should just stop pussy footing around and apply THEIR punishments. And I don't just mean Reading, I mean all who've broken the rules, especially those that have done it repeatedly. And I include Town in this if we'd gone into admin again, didn't agree with it last time either, even if the circumstances were entirely different from this season's rumours/threats. |
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Post by detox on Mar 31, 2023 16:10:34 GMT 1
Can we all bear in mind this is a negotiated points deduction rather than a automatic 6 points deduction for breaching the rules again, if they have so any points deduction will be agreement between Reading and the EFL not automatic if they have broken the rules again I thought the 6 points was suspended from their previous punishment? If so surely this should be applied automatically and if they've broken the rules again it's a FURTHER punishment? Don't disagree but I think they're saying if they don't comply with business plan it'll be 6 points again.. Rather than it being 6 deferred? |
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 31, 2023 16:19:47 GMT 1
EFL hierarchy piss up at Wembley this weekend for the 'pizza' trophy & probably had a little meeting today before starting weekend early on the lash, lets hope they made a correct decision........fair play to 70+k Plymouth & Bolton fans, enjoy your day out. Bolton taking 34,000, I am going with my lad, (Bolton fan) weekend on the lash, hope Kachunga scores the winner. The mighty Green army are taking 38,000 fans to Wembley, good turn out is that and if Warnock weaves his magic we could well be playing them next season. Our longest away trip is that. even worse for the Mackems. |
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Post by shedds on Mar 31, 2023 16:53:18 GMT 1
Bolton taking 34,000, I am going with my lad, (Bolton fan) weekend on the lash, hope Kachunga scores the winner. The mighty Green army are taking 38,000 fans to Wembley, good turn out is that and if Warnock weaves his magic we could well be playing them next season. Our longest away trip is that. even worse for the Mackems. remember back in the day attending one or two midweek games away at plymouth ,going in back of transit van overnight wilth crates of ale to keep us going and then resupplying for hike home after game |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 31, 2023 19:17:10 GMT 1
Bolton taking 34,000, I am going with my lad, (Bolton fan) weekend on the lash, hope Kachunga scores the winner. The mighty Green army are taking 38,000 fans to Wembley, good turn out is that and if Warnock weaves his magic we could well be playing them next season. Our longest away trip is that. even worse for the Mackems. Hope Plymouth win, not a great Notlob lover, won't lose any sleep over it though!! Great ticket sales from both clubs, credit to them both. |
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Post by Jello Biafra on Apr 1, 2023 11:52:16 GMT 1
Dont disagree with the jist of your post but not sure about the last bit, some might be walking away from the modern game but generally attendance wise its quite healthy. Season ticket prices are a lot better our days, in 80s probably got 2 games chucked in for nothing, so had to to go to all games really to benefit, Town fans been spoilt by cheap season ticket prices, as have other clubs, walk up prices are out of the average working family wanting to just watch a 1 off game, we all love footie, probably always will, but unfortunately the game cannot carry on in the format it is operating in at the moment. They’re NOT cheap, they’re reasonable and realistic. Any club charging more is exploiting fan loyalty. Probably due to mismanagement of club finances and being drawn into the shitshow of massively overpaying players. |
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Post by houllierspal on Apr 1, 2023 11:57:54 GMT 1
After the shambles we have seen this season could argue they are even over-priced?
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Post by ronaldinio on Apr 1, 2023 12:05:03 GMT 1
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Post by sabailand on Apr 1, 2023 12:33:58 GMT 1
After the shambles we have seen this season could argue they are even over-priced? Can call hindsight on allsorts, we never know how a season is going to pan out, nobody expected this season to be this bad. |
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Post by Tez on Apr 3, 2023 7:08:21 GMT 1
So…. Is it happening 🤣😳
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Post by mosher on Apr 3, 2023 10:08:58 GMT 1
I'd say ask the EFL. But they probably know just as much as us and are waiting for Reading's lawyers to tell them what's happening  |
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Post by runner76 on Apr 3, 2023 10:54:34 GMT 1
I thought Ince had been told it was happening and then said as much in the Reading local paper?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 3, 2023 10:56:18 GMT 1
I'd say ask the EFL. But they probably know just as much as us and are waiting for Reading's lawyers to tell them what's happening So if found guilty in court you can now choose when to do the time or when you pay the fine?? 'Your honour, I can pay the fine a week on Thursday, as I have a bank job on the night before'  ?🤪 |
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Post by irverino on Apr 3, 2023 11:02:37 GMT 1
Five weeks today the season ends for us teams at the bottom......surely no later than Easter break (Thursday 5pm) for an announcement ?
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Post by softboy on Apr 3, 2023 11:16:38 GMT 1
I'd say ask the EFL. But they probably know just as much as us and are waiting for Reading's lawyers to tell them what's happening So if found guilty in court you can now choose when to do the time or when you pay the fine?? 'Your honour, I can pay the fine a week on Thursday, as I have a bank job on the night before' ?🤪 Its simpler than that. If found guilty not only can you choose when you take the punishment or you can still plead innocence and tell the EFL that you are not prepared to take the punishment |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 3, 2023 11:28:21 GMT 1
So if found guilty in court you can now choose when to do the time or when you pay the fine?? 'Your honour, I can pay the fine a week on Thursday, as I have a bank job on the night before' ?🤪 Its simpler than that. If found guilty not only can you choose when you take the punishment or you can still plead innocence and tell the EFL that you are not prepared to take the punishment As we scored 4 on saturday but in the end only needed 3 to win, can we have the extra goal back and start one up at Watford, ta... If Reading were bottom or top the points should have gone the day they were found guilty, as I understand they are not appealing and accept being as guilty as a puppy next to a pile of pooh.. I really do think they believe they could grab just enough points this season to take the hit next season. Points deductions are not an extra punishment applied at the exact time to make your situation worse or indeed better.?? Its clear they are in deep, deep shit and may even continue breaking the agreements with the EFL. For me you dont get 46 more games to make up any deductions. |
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Post by softboy on Apr 3, 2023 11:35:11 GMT 1
In theory they have bought better players than they can afford and are therefore in a better position than they would have been had they not breached rules. Perhaps there plan is to continue doing this, take the points deduction, get to PL where the EFL have no jurisdiction to do anything
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Post by terryya on Apr 3, 2023 11:42:44 GMT 1
In theory they have bought better players than they can afford and are therefore in a better position than they would have been had they not breached rules. Perhaps there plan is to continue doing this, take the points deduction, get to PL where the EFL have no jurisdiction to do anything You've just quoted the business plan for almost every championship team. |
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Post by terriers2000 on Apr 3, 2023 11:48:30 GMT 1
Pathetic by the EFL
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Post by softboy on Apr 3, 2023 13:08:27 GMT 1
You can just see the EFL statement next week after Reading loose their next 2 games. ‘We have been in discussion with Reading about their potential points deduction and reached an agreement that the points will now be applied. We are conscious with only 5 games left thiscould seriously disturb the current relegation battle which we are sure none of the teams involved would want. We have therefore agreed that the punishment will be at the beginning of next season, which is acceptable to Reading’
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 3, 2023 13:39:46 GMT 1
Absolutely. They were hoping to impose a punishment when the bottom three was adrift like last season (when Reading had most of the season to claw back the deduction, and managed it with ease). Instead, recent form will put Reading right in the mix. Which they don't want. Doesn't matter who the clubs involved are - the FL doesn't want to be seen to 'interfere' at the foot of the table and will, therefore, take a non-interventionist standpoint... which actually punishes the clubs who haven't broken the rules far more. The Football League is unfit for purpose. Not out of malice or spite, but just because it doesn't like what comes with having to govern the game. It doesn't want to make decisions, and it wants to be hands off when it can't be. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Apr 3, 2023 13:45:32 GMT 1
Cowards.
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Post by detox on Apr 3, 2023 14:05:24 GMT 1
Beginning to think Ince is having a laugh with us...he's probably had the word that Reading FC lawyers have won the arguement. Ince keeps saying it'll be this week, it'll be soon...but I think he's just winding us all up...
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Post by softboy on Apr 3, 2023 14:15:15 GMT 1
Absolutely. He just repeats the same comments over and over again. It’s now 3 weeks when he started to make these comments. Whether it’s trying to motivate his players or something a bit more sinister I don’t know
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 3, 2023 14:29:08 GMT 1
With or without a points deduction for Reading we've put ourselves within a good chance of staying up now.
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Post by runner76 on Apr 3, 2023 14:32:44 GMT 1
With or without a points deduction for Reading we've put ourselves within a good chance of staying up now. .....but a much, much better chance if they get that points reduction!!!  |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Apr 3, 2023 14:45:42 GMT 1
Reading lawyers will wait until they are mathematically safe+6 then allow EFL to take the 6 off and they finish 21st or better. Farcical.
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Post by King Neil on Apr 3, 2023 15:08:26 GMT 1
We will be fine regardless..we don't need a hand
3 wins out of 7 should be enough and I would never bet against Neil warnock(legend)
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