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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 16, 2023 20:15:10 GMT 1
Looks like Wigan will be taking a 3 point deduction then. Nice of them to post the statement at midnight hoping the fans wouldn't see it 🤣 Why 3 points? I'm just going off what their fans were saying tbf. |
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Post by softboy on Mar 16, 2023 20:20:42 GMT 1
A 6 point deduction would put them only 3 points above Blackpool and 5 above us. I could see Reading taking the punishment a month or so ago but cannot see them agreeing to 6 points now!
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 16, 2023 20:26:27 GMT 1
A 6 point deduction would put them only 3 points above Blackpool and 5 above us. I could see Reading taking the punishment a month or so ago but cannot see them agreeing to 6 points now! Can you ‘agree’ with a punishment? I acknowledge you mean they would appeal it. |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Mar 16, 2023 20:28:34 GMT 1
A 6 point deduction would put them only 3 points above Blackpool and 5 above us. I could see Reading taking the punishment a month or so ago but cannot see them agreeing to 6 points now! Can you ‘agree’ with a punishment? I acknowledge you mean they would appeal it. Can they appeal it if it's the 6 points they had deferred previously? You wouldn't think so but it is the EFL we're talking about I suppose. |
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Post by softboy on Mar 16, 2023 20:52:30 GMT 1
As I see it Reading were deducted 12 points for breaching FFP rules with 6 suspended. A Business Plan was agreed with the EFL which they appear not to have kept to so if proven the other 6 points would be deducted this season. But they are "negotiating" (whatever that means) with the EFL as to the punishment, so yes you can "negotiate" a punishment already agreed if you have to. I suspect they will have good lawyers who will drag this out or perhaps negotiate a smaller penalty, say 3 points now and 3 next season. If they win their next 3 and the bottom 3 all loose then I suspect they will say to the EFL, lets settle this once and for all, take the 6 points now we are relatively safe. If their decline continues I can see their lawyers dragging it out until they are mathematically safe or into next season and take the hit then>
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Mar 16, 2023 21:01:49 GMT 1
As I see it Reading were deducted 12 points for breaching FFP rules with 6 suspended. A Business Plan was agreed with the EFL which they appear not to have kept to so if proven the other 6 points would be deducted this season. But they are "negotiating" (whatever that means) with the EFL as to the punishment, so yes you can "negotiate" a punishment already agreed if you have to. I suspect they will have good lawyers who will drag this out or perhaps negotiate a smaller penalty, say 3 points now and 3 next season. If they win their next 3 and the bottom 3 all loose then I suspect they will say to the EFL, lets settle this once and for all, take the 6 points now we are relatively safe. If their decline continues I can see their lawyers dragging it out until they are mathematically safe or into next season and take the hit then> The EFL won’t allow them to drag it into next season. Also I’m sure they’ll be saying that if they try that then it will go up to 12 and they’ll go down next season anyway |
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Post by softboy on Mar 16, 2023 23:33:08 GMT 1
Well they are letting it drag on now. Either Reading have breached the agreement they made or they haven't. As you say though it could be 12 if they drag it on till next year, but as 6 would probably be suspended (again) I am sure they would be happy with that than take the punishment now.
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Post by softboy on Mar 18, 2023 20:05:26 GMT 1
So the EFL are still negotiating with Reading regarding a points deduction, they are reviewing whether Wigan should have a points deduction for failing to pay their players numerous times and they are now reviewing the Rotherham v Cardiff postponement and what to do. Wouldn’t it be better if they had a set of rules that clearly sets out what happens in these circumstances.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 18, 2023 20:07:28 GMT 1
So the EFL are still negotiating with Reading regarding a points deduction, they are reviewing whether Wigan should have a points deduction for failing to pay their players numerous times and they are now reviewing the Rotherham v Cardiff postponement and what to do. Wouldn’t it be better if they had a set of rules that clearly sets out what happens in these circumstances. There should be no negotiations. They broke the rules so deduct the points - people’s livelihoods and our sanity is at stake. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 18, 2023 20:10:29 GMT 1
Throw the book at 'em ;D
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Post by Wingman on Mar 18, 2023 20:14:26 GMT 1
So the EFL are still negotiating with Reading regarding a points deduction, they are reviewing whether Wigan should have a points deduction for failing to pay their players numerous times and they are now reviewing the Rotherham v Cardiff postponement and what to do. Wouldn’t it be better if they had a set of rules that clearly sets out what happens in these circumstances. Repeat occurances should incur steeper penalties IMO. Failing to force this not only softens the leadership the EFL has but also leads clubs to weigh up whether to take the hit and get away with it. Not how the professional game should be managed. If the EFL are serious about clubs managing within their means, show it. Show some teeth, and enforce your own rules. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 18, 2023 20:15:53 GMT 1
So the EFL are still negotiating with Reading regarding a points deduction, they are reviewing whether Wigan should have a points deduction for failing to pay their players numerous times and they are now reviewing the Rotherham v Cardiff postponement and what to do. Wouldn’t it be better if they had a set of rules that clearly sets out what happens in these circumstances. Just hit all three for 12 points... consistency. |
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Post by softboy on Mar 18, 2023 20:24:13 GMT 1
So the EFL are still negotiating with Reading regarding a points deduction, they are reviewing whether Wigan should have a points deduction for failing to pay their players numerous times and they are now reviewing the Rotherham v Cardiff postponement and what to do. Wouldn’t it be better if they had a set of rules that clearly sets out what happens in these circumstances. Repeat occurances should incur steeper penalties IMO. Failing to force this not only softens the leadership the EFL has but also leads clubs to weigh up whether to take the hit and get away with it. Not how the professional game should be managed. If the EFL are serious about clubs managing within their means, show it. Show some teeth, and enforce your own rules. |
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Post by softboy on Mar 18, 2023 20:28:42 GMT 1
Which is exactly what Reading are doing now. It is clear to me (as I have mentioned previously) that both Reading and the EFL have been dragging their feet in the hope that Reading fortunes on the field would improve and a potential 6 point deduction could be taken when they had sufficient cushion in hand. It’s gone the other way which suggests to me that the matter will drag on and on
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Post by rockwall on Mar 18, 2023 20:32:04 GMT 1
Rotherham should get everything thrown at them.
Evidence of sprinklers used at Half Time and also ground staff doing half arsed jobs like they were told not to get rid of it.
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 18, 2023 20:36:04 GMT 1
Rotherham should get everything thrown at them. Evidence of sprinklers used at Half Time and also ground staff doing half arsed jobs like they were told not to get rid of it. Seen several videos. Ridiculous carry on. Did they have loads out injured? One guy pushes a load of water off the pitch and then drags even more back on And the sprinklers were defo on at the town end at half time |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 18, 2023 20:37:47 GMT 1
Rotherham should get everything thrown at them. Evidence of sprinklers used at Half Time and also ground staff doing half arsed jobs like they were told not to get rid of it. Remember last time they were in the division and the squad had about 4 covid outbreaks when they had issues with injuries? Conniving lot. |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 18, 2023 20:38:54 GMT 1
Rotherham should get everything thrown at them. Evidence of sprinklers used at Half Time and also ground staff doing half arsed jobs like they were told not to get rid of it. Seen several videos. Ridiculous carry on. Did they have loads out injured? One guy pushes a load of water off the pitch and then drags even more back on And the sprinklers were defo on at the town end at half time I know Morrison and Quina were out. Not sure about others. EFL need to do more in these situations. Similar to Blackpool with us for MM first game. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 18, 2023 21:12:01 GMT 1
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 18, 2023 21:15:50 GMT 1
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Mar 18, 2023 21:23:03 GMT 1
The shithousery in the Championship is unrivalled. Flooding a pitch to get an abandonment. The EFL will have fun and games sorting that out.
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Post by softboy on Mar 19, 2023 0:34:20 GMT 1
As I see it we had a game postponed at Blackpool just after half time and the result stood. So as it’s the same competition surely the Rotherham v Cardiff game is the same!
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 19, 2023 0:46:57 GMT 1
Repeat Offenders - Nah - Throw the bloody LIBRARY at them !!! 😉 |
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Post by rugbyterrier on Mar 19, 2023 0:48:43 GMT 1
Rotherham should get everything thrown at them. Evidence of sprinklers used at Half Time and also ground staff doing half arsed jobs like they were told not to get rid of it. Seen several videos. Ridiculous carry on. Did they have loads out injured? One guy pushes a load of water off the pitch and then drags even more back on And the sprinklers were defo on at the town end at half time Toytown fookers |
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Post by detox on Mar 19, 2023 10:42:17 GMT 1
I don't think Town have ever had a points deduction have we ?...is therea 'league table' of the sinners...?
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 19, 2023 10:55:15 GMT 1
The shithousery in the Championship is unrivalled. Flooding a pitch to get an abandonment. The EFL will have fun and games sorting that out. Like Blackpools undersoil heating conveniently breaking down the day they play us....a day after appointing McCarthy who hadnt had any time to work with his players yet? |
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Post by ram on Mar 19, 2023 10:55:32 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 19, 2023 11:02:44 GMT 1
As I see it we had a game postponed at Blackpool just after half time and the result stood. So as it’s the same competition surely the Rotherham v Cardiff game is the same! Wasn’t that the last game of the season though? Also may not have been anything riding on the outcome, so an easy precedent for them to make. That’s what I recall anyway. I think most would agree that it’s probably better to have this one replayed, a share of the points would have been ideal yesterday, but who knows what the best permutation would be when it’s played? Hopefully it’s still a very crucial game for both clubs & Town. |
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Post by ritchie on Mar 19, 2023 11:05:59 GMT 1
As I see it we had a game postponed at Blackpool just after half time and the result stood. So as it’s the same competition surely the Rotherham v Cardiff game is the same! Wasn’t that the last game of the season though? Also may not have been anything riding on the outcome, so an easy precedent for them to make. That’s what I recall anyway. I think most would agree that it’s probably better to have this one replayed, a share of the points would have been ideal yesterday, but who knows what the best permutation would be when it’s played? Hopefully it’s still a very crucial game for both clubs & Town. Our game vs them this season edit: apologies i didnt read the post you quoted |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 19, 2023 11:06:29 GMT 1
I would hope that these accusations of grubby backroom tactics are nonsense.
The game has a big enough disrepute charge for so many things, but I live in hope that it’s not reached the depths of under soil heating ‘problems’ and intentionally flooding a pitch to coincide with a downpour.
Has anyone found out when the heavens opened at Millmoor and were the sprinklers on before it came?
Conspiracy or coincidence?
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