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Post by rothwellterrier on Jul 4, 2024 8:14:49 GMT 1
I'm a fan of Oggy and Matt on comms and the RL chaps are genuinely good people, but there are a few things I don't like: - If Leeds kick off early it's on ALL frequencies and Town's pre match show gets chopped to around 20/25 mins. For home games everyone is out of the car and on the way to the ground. Surely that's unnecessary? - Post Match you can listen online on the BBC website but online defaults to FM which of course is Leeds and if they're not playing it defaults to Bradford so unless Town are playing when the other two aren't you have to go sit in the car and listen (unless you have Ifollow or it's different on the TV channel) if where you live can pick up the channel. - They upload a lot of the pre and post-match shows to BBC Sounds. Unless I’m looking in the wrong place though it tends to only be Leeds Utd or if Leeds haven’t played, Bradford City. Town only appears if the other two aren’t playing on the same day. - Town don’t get a podcast. Actually no, that’s fine, less competition the better  I know they’ll point to more listening figures for the other lot but that’s surely not the point of a service paid for by license fees that are supposed to serve an area and not just a City within it. I do feel like Town need to be treated with a bit more fairness considering the club stuck by RL when Bates decided to take Leeds Utd elsewhere and Bradford had their flirtation with The Pulse. If I could give this a thousand likes I would. The point about Leeds lunchtime commentaries continuing on the “Town” DAB channel at 2pm really winds me up (unless of course they are getting beat  ). I would imagine this will only increase under the new Sky tv deal, with the increased splitting of kick off times. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Jul 4, 2024 9:54:11 GMT 1
I complained about us being shoved onto digital radio about 10 years ago, without an alternative and was told by Radio Leeds to buy a digital radio. So I did and I still can't get Huddersfield Town, it's Bradford City coverage on digital, Leeds on FM. I live about 4 miles away from the town centre of Huddersfield. Complained again and was told there's parts of Huddersfield where the signal can't give us the Town coverage and they would be sorting it out. 10 years have past.
No wonder Huddersfield Town listening figures are low, people have given up. Only occasionally listen now to Ogden and Glennon on rare occasions we are on FM coming away from a match, this is if Leeds and Braford aren't playing and I think their content is good but it's a rarity due to signal issues.
We pay the same licence fee as everyone else.
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Post by E4b on Jul 4, 2024 10:32:17 GMT 1
Get Andy Crawshaw Radio back!
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 4, 2024 10:34:07 GMT 1
I complained about us being shoved onto digital radio about 10 years ago, without an alternative and was told by Radio Leeds to buy a digital radio. So I did and I still can't get Huddersfield Town, it's Bradford City coverage on digital, Leeds on FM. I live about 4 miles away from the town centre of Huddersfield. Complained again and was told there's parts of Huddersfield where the signal can't give us the Town coverage and they would be sorting it out. 10 years have past. No wonder Huddersfield Town listening figures are low, people have given up. Only occasionally listen now to Ogden and Glennon on rare occasions we are on FM coming away from a match, this is if Leeds and Braford aren't playing and I think their content is good but it's a rarity due to signal issues. We pay the same licence fee as everyone else. This is where Radio Leeds DAB 12D is transmitted from. So as you'll know in the Colne Valley, no line of site whatsoever to Emley Moor so it just goes straight over the top of the entire South West quarter of Huddersfield. www.radiodns.uk/multiplexes/c1a0This is where Radio Leeds DAB 11B is transmitted from, the one that the cluckers get when we're all playing. Instead of coming from Emley Moor it comes from Ainley Top and Holme Moss, which would easily cover the whole of Huddersfield! Seems to make very little sense to me. |
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Post by incognito on Jul 4, 2024 10:44:20 GMT 1
We're still very much tied in to EFL Digital. The new website, albeit an improvement, is just their updated template. I thought that might well have been the case, shame though! Peterborough successfully extricated themselves from the EFL deal a couple of years ago to go off and do their own thing. If there's the will and, importantly, the business case, it can be done... |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jul 4, 2024 11:06:59 GMT 1
We get a second rate product on a dodgy frequency many can't access. It's dreadful how license fee payers in Huddersfield get a second rate product compared to Leeds and Bradford license payers
There's no hiding that we're treated as the third club in West Yorkshire. Even when we were in the Premier League while Bradford tread water in League Two
I would do the deal with Radio Leeds - no other choice - but would give them second rate service (less player access, make them pay for their own parking, sandwiches and be as petty as possible). Also let it be publicly know that we disagree with the product they offer in comparison to other license payers in the area who happen to follow Leeds or Bradford
Radio Leeds need us as a well to justify there ongoing existence in a world where BBC are looking at content and especially localised content. So we can be petty back given the way they treat us
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 4, 2024 11:25:25 GMT 1
I think that’s an issue with the broadcast rights of radio versus online being different. Again, out of towns hands. I find this bizarre, you can listen to DAB on your mobile phone and get a perfect signal, yet if/when theres a town game on live you cant listen via the same platform. Put DAB on on my way home from a game and its in and out all the way home, absolutely shocking service You aren't listening to DAB on your mobile phone. |
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Post by torchlight on Jul 4, 2024 11:32:30 GMT 1
Given they have 3 signals: FM, AM & DAB, surely you would think it’s not difficult to have access to these 3 separate streams on their website, instead of only streaming the FM signal.
This seems a really easy thing to do, that would make a big difference?
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 4, 2024 11:36:11 GMT 1
I find this bizarre, you can listen to DAB on your mobile phone and get a perfect signal, yet if/when theres a town game on live you cant listen via the same platform. Put DAB on on my way home from a game and its in and out all the way home, absolutely shocking service You aren't listening to DAB on your mobile phone. Sorry. Can you explain that. I actually deleted the app because i found it useless. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 4, 2024 11:42:22 GMT 1
You aren't listening to DAB on your mobile phone. Sorry. Can you explain that. I actually deleted the app because i found it useless. You were listening online. Your mobile (any mobile) is incapable of receiving actual radio broadcasts. The reason you couldn't listen online to Town broadcasts is because Radio Leeds don't have the rights to online broadcasting of town games - Thats what ifollow is. |
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Post by willo on Jul 4, 2024 11:44:17 GMT 1
We live in Leeds and can get the dab frequency for games with no bother whatsoever. Going to and from the game and it’s anything but straightforward. They made a right dogs dinner of it and seem unwilling to do anything about it. It’s got to the point we just put R5live on because there’s no way we’re listening to Adam fuckin Pope or the pillock who commentates on bcfc.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 4, 2024 11:58:17 GMT 1
We live in Leeds and can get the dab frequency for games with no bother whatsoever. Going to and from the game and it’s anything but straightforward. They made a right dogs dinner of it and seem unwilling to do anything about it. It’s got to the point we just put R5live on because there’s no way we’re listening to Adam fuckin Pope or the pillock who commentates on bcfc. I listen to oggy and glennon until we turn onto wakefield road, then stop listening until we reach moldgreen, then it comes back on until past lepton then off again , comes back on as we get to our village then off again as we get to our estate then back on as we go up the drive. In 2024 it’s pathetic Keep getting told it will be better when they turn FM off. We’ve been at this for years. And what is the difference between listening on a dab radio and listening on your phone. I pay my license just let me listen you utter cards |
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 4, 2024 11:59:28 GMT 1
Sorry. Can you explain that. I actually deleted the app because i found it useless. You were listening online. Your mobile (any mobile) is incapable of receiving actual radio broadcasts. The reason you couldn't listen online to Town broadcasts is because Radio Leeds don't have the rights to online broadcasting of town games - Thats what ifollow is. I always find it vaguely amusing that 20 years ago we had FM receivers in a reasonable proportion of mobile phones, and I think LG had one with a DAB tuner maybe 8-10 years ago. Unfortunately the masses gave and continue to give their money to Cupertino, despite them delivering barely any significant technology or UI improvements in the last 10 years, which meant innovators and disruptors could no longer really exist as a provider in to a monopolised market. |
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Post by 66738 on Jul 4, 2024 12:09:41 GMT 1
Given they have 3 signals: FM, AM & DAB, surely you would think it’s not difficult to have access to these 3 separate streams on their website, instead of only streaming the FM signal. This seems a really easy thing to do, that would make a big difference? 774AM/MW finished a couple of years ago. But an additional DAB frequency replaced it, so yes, ‘3 signals’. |
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Post by King Neil on Jul 4, 2024 12:36:31 GMT 1
Hopefully this will help you
Tuning your radio in low down in Huddersfield your dab radio is going to pick the ainley top transmitter (11B) transponder
If you on the hillside your radio is more likely to find transponder(12b) from Emley Moor
You can manually tune your dab radio so if you choose 12b Emley Moor you should be OK as it has a wider reach
I have both 11b and 12b tuned on my radio and have no issues at all...just switch depending on location
Bradford City are always on the 11b transmitter which is the ainley top one which your car radio will try to select being closer...but Town are always on 12b and sometimes both,so 12b is your choice
I'm currently working in Worksop North Nottinghamshire and have good reception of RL on 12b
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Post by willo on Jul 4, 2024 13:31:16 GMT 1
Hopefully this will help you Tuning your radio in low down in Huddersfield your dab radio is going to pick the ainley top transmitter (11B) transponder If you on the hillside your radio is more likely to find transponder(12b) from Emley Moor You can manually tune your dab radio so if you choose 12b Emley Moor you should be OK as it has a wider reach I have both 11b and 12b tuned on my radio and have no issues at all...just switch depending on location Bradford City are always on the 11b transmitter which is the ainley top one which your car radio will try to select being closer...but Town are always on 12b and sometimes both,so 12b is your choice I'm currently working in Worksop North Nottinghamshire and have good reception of RL on 12b Que? |
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Post by trotsky on Jul 4, 2024 13:31:21 GMT 1
Hopefully this will help you Tuning your radio in low down in Huddersfield your dab radio is going to pick the ainley top transmitter (11B) transponder If you on the hillside your radio is more likely to find transponder(12b) from Emley Moor You can manually tune your dab radio so if you choose 12b Emley Moor you should be OK as it has a wider reach I have both 11b and 12b tuned on my radio and have no issues at all...just switch depending on location Bradford City are always on the 11b transmitter which is the ainley top one which your car radio will try to select being closer...but Town are always on 12b and sometimes both,so 12b is your choice I'm currently working in Worksop North Nottinghamshire and have good reception of RL on 12b
Unfortunately, not all DAB radios let you choose between the frequencies for RL. Mine just defaults to the strongest one (unless there's a way to select from 11b and 12b that I can't find?). I got it quite recently and was fuming when it gave me the Bradford coverage. The only way I could get it to pick 12b up was to find a place where 11b was weaker and then re-tune. Thankfully it stays locked on 12b now.
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Post by willo on Jul 4, 2024 13:31:44 GMT 1
We live in Leeds and can get the dab frequency for games with no bother whatsoever. Going to and from the game and it’s anything but straightforward. They made a right dogs dinner of it and seem unwilling to do anything about it. It’s got to the point we just put R5live on because there’s no way we’re listening to Adam fuckin Pope or the pillock who commentates on bcfc. I listen to oggy and glennon until we turn onto wakefield road, then stop listening until we reach moldgreen, then it comes back on until past lepton then off again , comes back on as we get to our village then off again as we get to our estate then back on as we go up the drive. In 2024 it’s pathetic Keep getting told it will be better when they turn FM off. We’ve been at this for years. And what is the difference between listening on a dab radio and listening on your phone. I pay my license just let me listen you utter cards Right with you mate, it’s absolutely nuts. |
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Post by King Neil on Jul 4, 2024 13:49:54 GMT 1
Hopefully this will help you Tuning your radio in low down in Huddersfield your dab radio is going to pick the ainley top transmitter (11B) transponder If you on the hillside your radio is more likely to find transponder(12b) from Emley Moor You can manually tune your dab radio so if you choose 12b Emley Moor you should be OK as it has a wider reach I have both 11b and 12b tuned on my radio and have no issues at all...just switch depending on location Bradford City are always on the 11b transmitter which is the ainley top one which your car radio will try to select being closer...but Town are always on 12b and sometimes both,so 12b is your choice I'm currently working in Worksop North Nottinghamshire and have good reception of RL on 12b
Unfortunately, not all DAB radios let you choose between the frequencies for RL. Mine just defaults to the strongest one (unless there's a way to select from 11b and 12b that I can't find?). I it quite recently and was fuming when it gave me the Bradford coverage. The only way I could get it to pick 12b up was to find a place where 11b was weaker and then re-tune. Thankfully it stays locked on 12b now.
You should be able to tune manually by transponder..my mini is 2013 and quite old and allows me to tune manually..my old old pocket one does too |
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Post by King Neil on Jul 4, 2024 13:56:27 GMT 1
Hopefully this will help you Tuning your radio in low down in Huddersfield your dab radio is going to pick the ainley top transmitter (11B) transponder If you on the hillside your radio is more likely to find transponder(12b) from Emley Moor You can manually tune your dab radio so if you choose 12b Emley Moor you should be OK as it has a wider reach I have both 11b and 12b tuned on my radio and have no issues at all...just switch depending on location Bradford City are always on the 11b transmitter which is the ainley top one which your car radio will try to select being closer...but Town are always on 12b and sometimes both,so 12b is your choice I'm currently working in Worksop North Nottinghamshire and have good reception of RL on 12b Que? Sorry m8😁 I used to be a satellite/TV engineer so know all that crap |
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Post by dugnet on Jul 4, 2024 14:07:41 GMT 1
Whether they (BBC WYS) agree or not we are not given equal priority. I suppose the clue is in the name of the station but I always feel from a production (not the presenters) view point we are very much 3rd in the pecking order, no better than 2nd at best.
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Post by goodbet on Jul 4, 2024 14:12:58 GMT 1
Whether they (BBC WYS) agree or not we are not given equal priority. I suppose the clue is in the name of the station but I always feel from a production (not the presenters) view point we are very much 3rd in the pecking order, no better than 2nd at best. Huddersfield is third in size |
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Post by royrace on Jul 4, 2024 17:02:59 GMT 1
I complained about us being shoved onto digital radio about 10 years ago, without an alternative and was told by Radio Leeds to buy a digital radio. So I did and I still can't get Huddersfield Town, it's Bradford City coverage on digital, Leeds on FM. I live about 4 miles away from the town centre of Huddersfield. Complained again and was told there's parts of Huddersfield where the signal can't give us the Town coverage and they would be sorting it out. 10 years have past. No wonder Huddersfield Town listening figures are low, people have given up. Only occasionally listen now to Ogden and Glennon on rare occasions we are on FM coming away from a match, this is if Leeds and Braford aren't playing and I think their content is good but it's a rarity due to signal issues. We pay the same licence fee as everyone else. Exactly, it's a disgrace, the fact we're on DAB and the state of the signal. I've complained to the BBC, they know the signal isn't fit for purpose but just came up with some BS and closed down the case. The coverage is necessary for the club and is effectively a marketing tool. I'm surprised and disappointed the club put up with it. The fans are getting short changed and so is the club. RL are gas lighting the club and fan base pretending the coverage is fit for purpose. I've also stopped even trying to get coverage now. It's 2024 and we can't access commentary of town games in the Huddersfield area. It was way better than this when I first started supporting 40+ years ago. I would hazard a guess that 50 percent of fans can't access it. How is that remotely acceptable and why are the club pleased to sign up for another two years of a broken and fundamentally flawed service. If this were an issue for LUFC it would have been sorted immediately. Absolutely pathetic. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Jul 4, 2024 17:09:41 GMT 1
Whether they (BBC WYS) agree or not we are not given equal priority. I suppose the clue is in the name of the station but I always feel from a production (not the presenters) view point we are very much 3rd in the pecking order, no better than 2nd at best. BBC Radio Leeds’ remit covers the whole of West Yorkshire. There is no caveat that the largest and eponymous city gets more favourable treatment, but it very clearly does. The fact that they acknowledge all this by calling themselves West Yorkshire Sport shows that they know their responsibility, but they don’t give a shit. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 4, 2024 18:26:29 GMT 1
Whether they (BBC WYS) agree or not we are not given equal priority. I suppose the clue is in the name of the station but I always feel from a production (not the presenters) view point we are very much 3rd in the pecking order, no better than 2nd at best. BBC Radio Leeds’ remit covers the whole of West Yorkshire. There is no caveat that the largest and eponymous city gets more favourable treatment, but it very clearly does. The fact that they acknowledge all this by calling themselves West Yorkshire Sport shows that they know their responsibility, but they don’t give a shit. Exactly this. Within West Yorkshire there’s far more people who don’t live in Leeds than do. Yet within the decision makers of West Yorkshire sport it’s almost entirely Leeds fans. |
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Post by 28901 on Jul 4, 2024 22:41:48 GMT 1
I'm a fan of Oggy and Matt on comms and the RL chaps are genuinely good people, but there are a few things I don't like: - If Leeds kick off early it's on ALL frequencies and Town's pre match show gets chopped to around 20/25 mins. For home games everyone is out of the car and on the way to the ground. Surely that's unnecessary? - Post Match you can listen online on the BBC website but online defaults to FM which of course is Leeds and if they're not playing it defaults to Bradford so unless Town are playing when the other two aren't you have to go sit in the car and listen (unless you have Ifollow or it's different on the TV channel) if where you live can pick up the channel. - They upload a lot of the pre and post-match shows to BBC Sounds. Unless I’m looking in the wrong place though it tends to only be Leeds Utd or if Leeds haven’t played, Bradford City. Town only appears if the other two aren’t playing on the same day. - Town don’t get a podcast. Actually no, that’s fine, less competition the better I know they’ll point to more listening figures for the other lot but that’s surely not the point of a service paid for by license fees that are supposed to serve an area and not just a City within it. I do feel like Town need to be treated with a bit more fairness considering the club stuck by RL when Bates decided to take Leeds Utd elsewhere and Bradford had their flirtation with The Pulse. Absolutely bang on. The BBC licence fee means they are able to cover all minorities without profit. |
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Post by 28901 on Jul 4, 2024 22:42:46 GMT 1
I complained about us being shoved onto digital radio about 10 years ago, without an alternative and was told by Radio Leeds to buy a digital radio. So I did and I still can't get Huddersfield Town, it's Bradford City coverage on digital, Leeds on FM. I live about 4 miles away from the town centre of Huddersfield. Complained again and was told there's parts of Huddersfield where the signal can't give us the Town coverage and they would be sorting it out. 10 years have past. No wonder Huddersfield Town listening figures are low, people have given up. Only occasionally listen now to Ogden and Glennon on rare occasions we are on FM coming away from a match, this is if Leeds and Braford aren't playing and I think their content is good but it's a rarity due to signal issues. We pay the same licence fee as everyone else. Yep. They need to sort it |
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Post by 28901 on Jul 4, 2024 22:49:50 GMT 1
We live in Leeds and can get the dab frequency for games with no bother whatsoever. Going to and from the game and it’s anything but straightforward. They made a right dogs dinner of it and seem unwilling to do anything about it. It’s got to the point we just put R5live on because there’s no way we’re listening to Adam fuckin Pope or the pillock who commentates on bcfc. Andy Kiwomya's 'expert'analysis makes it worth it. |
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Post by willo on Jul 5, 2024 0:33:12 GMT 1
We live in Leeds and can get the dab frequency for games with no bother whatsoever. Going to and from the game and it’s anything but straightforward. They made a right dogs dinner of it and seem unwilling to do anything about it. It’s got to the point we just put R5live on because there’s no way we’re listening to Adam fuckin Pope or the pillock who commentates on bcfc. Andy Kiwomya's 'expert'analysis makes it worth it. He makes me realise how well off we are having Matt Glennon sit next to Oggy. |
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Post by 28901 on Jul 5, 2024 1:01:50 GMT 1
Andy Kiwomya's 'expert'analysis makes it worth it. He makes me realise how well off we are having Matt Glennon sit next to Oggy. Too right. |
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