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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 26, 2023 9:36:45 GMT 1
What are you rambling on about now, your last post demands details of who the new owners are, this one says they shouldn’t have announced the sale.!! The club announced that a North American group will be taking over. If they didn’t want fans to question who they are and why it’s not being said, then they shouldn’t have announced it until they were ready. Bea cause it put to bed the administration issue for a start. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 26, 2023 9:49:50 GMT 1
I’ve just got to ask , what crimes against humanity did DH commit over 14 years that stirred this animosity ? Nothing, the first time I saw him was when the gold, Centenary, away shirt went on sale, about the same time it was announced he'd come on board with Conman Ken. He was stood near the shop just looking at the queue. There was just something about him that I, instinctively, didn't trust and seeing him at the Q&A's at Canalside, over the years, didn't alter. That's not to say I wasn't grateful for what happened during most of his tenure but that didn't make me like him 🤷 Fair enough, my wife’s not keen on him either for reasons that are difficult to be rational about, but that’s women, I have to say in all fairness he has probably been our best owner in my lifetime, where money had become the major factor. “ Conman Ken” superb 🤩 |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 26, 2023 9:51:11 GMT 1
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Post by The White Kanu on Mar 26, 2023 10:13:07 GMT 1
What are you rambling on about now, your last post demands details of who the new owners are, this one says they shouldn’t have announced the sale.!! The club announced that a North American group will be taking over. If they didn’t want fans to question who they are and why it’s not being said, then they shouldn’t have announced it until they were ready. Out of interest, you say the Dutch deal was bad but the US deal was going to fantastic for the club. Who were these involved in the US deal & what were their plans? Presumably you don’t know anything of the successful bidders & that is you concern? |
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Post by Town1971 on Mar 26, 2023 10:38:18 GMT 1
Nothing, the first time I saw him was when the gold, Centenary, away shirt went on sale, about the same time it was announced he'd come on board with Conman Ken. He was stood near the shop just looking at the queue. There was just something about him that I, instinctively, didn't trust and seeing him at the Q&A's at Canalside, over the years, didn't alter. That's not to say I wasn't grateful for what happened during most of his tenure but that didn't make me like him 🤷 Fair enough, my wife’s not keen on him either for reasons that are difficult to be rational about, but that’s women, I have to say in all fairness he has probably been our best owner in my lifetime, where money had become the major factor. “ Conman Ken” superb 🤩 Strange that because my wife has always felt the same.I asked her to explain why and her answer "just can't explain but my instinct says I can't take to him" She is someone who either likes or doesn't at first meeting. Rarely have I known her change her mind . |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2023 10:48:48 GMT 1
I’ve been supporting Town for over 60 years, my first game was in 1964, I was at the 5th round FA Cup match against Weds in 1966 in a crowd of over 50000, I was at the Tuesday evening game against Torquay when just over 1600 turned, Hoyle supporter first , I don’t really think so .Can’t be bothered with the rest of your whining, without Hoyle this club was going nowhere, unfortunately the deal , good or bad with PH didn’t work , Hoyle came back in the short term to keep things moving and probably hoping to keep his loans active, it’s his money and he’s entitled to do that, it’s now sold , however the new owners pan out we will have to wait and see, I’m sure your sceptical view point will concern the new owners, however you do not have any rights whatsoever to know the personal details of the transaction , you should be more concerned about someone buying the club, there are approx 10 other clubs in the championship also looking for new investment. I don’t need any lectures from you about supporting Town, I’ve been there when we had no money and no interest, doubt you have. I don’t need any lectures from you either lad. I’ve supported the club for 30 years and I’m not going to apologise for my age. You can use yours as a badge of honour if that’s what makes you tick. If the club didn’t want people to know what’s going on and leave people speculating, they shouldn’t have announced it. How do you think the speculation about administration was affecting the players, staff and creditors? That is why an announcement was made. There were rumours of going into administration to get rid of Pure administrators with no details on paying creditors. The impact on staff and companies would have had very real consequences. Just think a bit wider than yourself. |
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Post by DuffMan on Mar 26, 2023 10:55:48 GMT 1
Nothing new on this board then ! Some people on here hate dean hoyle so much it has completely consumed them. He could sell it to Jim ratcliffe and they would find something to bash him with They are desperate to find something about the new owners that will enable them to justify the shite they have thrown at him and the fact they don’t know anything about them is boiling their piss! Let’s hope it’s a multi billionaire or the teddies will be out of the cot again and we’ll be getting statements from fan groups that represent about 0.5% of our fan base |
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 26, 2023 10:56:02 GMT 1
The club announced that a North American group will be taking over. If they didn’t want fans to question who they are and why it’s not being said, then they shouldn’t have announced it until they were ready. Out of interest, you say the Dutch deal was bad but the US deal was going to fantastic for the club. Who were these involved in the US deal & what were their plans? Presumably you don’t know anything of the successful bidders & that is you concern? The US deal was mentioned on here by a few going back a couple of weeks, jj moores. A couple of posters referred to it and their intentions of investing in the stadium, the area and club. As for this group that will be taking over, yes it worries me so little is known of who they are. |
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 26, 2023 10:59:11 GMT 1
I don’t need any lectures from you either lad. I’ve supported the club for 30 years and I’m not going to apologise for my age. You can use yours as a badge of honour if that’s what makes you tick. If the club didn’t want people to know what’s going on and leave people speculating, they shouldn’t have announced it. How do you think the speculation about administration was affecting the players, staff and creditors? That is why an announcement was made. There were rumours of going into administration to get rid of Pure administrators with no details on paying creditors. The impact on staff and companies would have had very real consequences. Just think a bit wider than yourself. Think wider than myself? Literally everything I’ve posted on questioning what’s going on is because I’m thinking wider than myself. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 26, 2023 11:16:01 GMT 1
Keep going ? I didn't like the bloke that owned us for most of the last 14 years. I’ve just got to ask , what crimes against humanity did DH commit over 14 years that stirred this animosity ? He was a complete barsteward stripped all the assets robbed all the cash and is a season ticket holder at bell end road. Oh he stole breakfast from children  |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 26, 2023 11:24:22 GMT 1
I’ve been supporting Town for over 60 years, my first game was in 1964, I was at the 5th round FA Cup match against Weds in 1966 in a crowd of over 50000, I was at the Tuesday evening game against Torquay when just over 1600 turned, Hoyle supporter first , I don’t really think so .Can’t be bothered with the rest of your whining, without Hoyle this club was going nowhere, unfortunately the deal , good or bad with PH didn’t work , Hoyle came back in the short term to keep things moving and probably hoping to keep his loans active, it’s his money and he’s entitled to do that, it’s now sold , however the new owners pan out we will have to wait and see, I’m sure your sceptical view point will concern the new owners, however you do not have any rights whatsoever to know the personal details of the transaction , you should be more concerned about someone buying the club, there are approx 10 other clubs in the championship also looking for new investment. I don’t need any lectures from you about supporting Town, I’ve been there when we had no money and no interest, doubt you have. I don’t need any lectures from you either lad. I’ve supported the club for 30 years and I’m not going to apologise for my age. You can use yours as a badge of honour if that’s what makes you tick. If the club didn’t want people to know what’s going on and leave people speculating, they shouldn’t have announced it. They are obliged to announce it Al creditors must be equally informed. |
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Post by detox on Mar 26, 2023 11:33:16 GMT 1
Nothing new on this board then ! Some people on here hate dean hoyle so much it has completely consumed them. He could sell it to Jim ratcliffe and they would find something to bash him with They are desperate to find something about the new owners that will enable them to justify the shite they have thrown at him and the fact they don’t know anything about them is boiling their piss! Let’s hope it’s a multi billionaire or the teddies will be out of the cot again and we’ll be getting statements from fan groups that represent about 0.5% of our fan base grow up |
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Post by hthp on Mar 26, 2023 11:33:39 GMT 1
I have disliked Dean Hoyle personally since he came on the radio and blamed the fans for the demise of Mark Robins in 2014. He lost me from that moment because the demise of Robins was purely down to him.
However, I could distinguish the person from the chairman and always recognised what he'd done. The best chairman we've ever had, but not a particularly likeable person.
I do think he changed, he was a breath of fresh air in 2008 and I believe that he had no ego, but the power and status helped him develop an ego. I also think his near death experience in 2018 made him into a hardened, bitter person.
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Post by specialun on Mar 26, 2023 11:39:50 GMT 1
I don’t need any lectures from you either lad. I’ve supported the club for 30 years and I’m not going to apologise for my age. You can use yours as a badge of honour if that’s what makes you tick. If the club didn’t want people to know what’s going on and leave people speculating, they shouldn’t have announced it. How do you think the speculation about administration was affecting the players, staff and creditors? That is why an announcement was made. There were rumours of going into administration to get rid of Pure administrators with no details on paying creditors. The impact on staff and companies would have had very real consequences. Just think a bit wider than yourself. Directors were never going to put us into admin. Threat of admin was imo noise used in negotiations - but tactics which looked to have worked to get a deal done But agree you can’t expect staff, players, creditors etc to understand that - or the fans! Speculation was not helpful from that side but perhaps necessary means to get to an end |
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Post by detox on Mar 26, 2023 11:40:46 GMT 1
I’m far from naive. It’s very clear you’re a supporter of Hoyle first and Town second. You talk in riddles, saying we have no right to know the details of the sale of our club yet after the last sale between PH and DH tells us that we do need to know. Entitled clown for wanting to know about how my football club operates? Lol ok, this isn’t about an individuals private affairs it’s about a community asset and it’s supporters being kept in the dark again. I’ve every reason and right to be concerned, I’ll never be afraid of airing my concerns or views on the club I love. I support town, not an individual. Right now I am extremely sceptical about our position off the field and it’s based on what I know and what I see. I’m far from entitled, wanting what’s best for the club. I’ve been supporting Town for over 60 years, my first game was in 1964, I was at the 5th round FA Cup match against Weds in 1966 in a crowd of over 50000, I was at the Tuesday evening game against Torquay when just over 1600 turned, Hoyle supporter first , I don’t really think so .Can’t be bothered with the rest of your whining, without Hoyle this club was going nowhere, unfortunately the deal , good or bad with PH didn’t work , Hoyle came back in the short term to keep things moving and probably hoping to keep his loans active, it’s his money and he’s entitled to do that, it’s now sold , however the new owners pan out we will have to wait and see, I’m sure your sceptical view point will concern the new owners, however you do not have any rights whatsoever to know the personal details of the transaction , you should be more concerned about someone buying the club, there are approx 10 other clubs in the championship also looking for new investment. I don’t need any lectures from you about supporting Town, I’ve been there when we had no money and no interest, doubt you have. ha..blooming newcomer....1960/1 season was my first .so that 63 years, although I admit i missed a few when the kids were born and when I worked Saturdays. I remember that game against Plymouth when Eddie Boot quit...headlines in the Examiner... and yes, lower league struggles too. it is a 'badge of honour' despite what others may say, long loyal service over many decades..it does count for something and definitely elevates us up the pecking order in status over the newbies..however much they protest.. |
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Post by ram on Mar 26, 2023 11:43:32 GMT 1
If,as stated elsewhere, Dean Hoyle is not getting anything from the sale,what exactly have the new owners bought?
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Post by dooky82 on Mar 26, 2023 11:43:43 GMT 1
Fair few with egg on their faces re Dean Hoyle although many aren't willing to admit that they got it wrong. Embrace the egg folks, embrace the egg.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2023 11:52:38 GMT 1
How do you think the speculation about administration was affecting the players, staff and creditors? That is why an announcement was made. There were rumours of going into administration to get rid of Pure administrators with no details on paying creditors. The impact on staff and companies would have had very real consequences. Just think a bit wider than yourself. Think wider than myself? Literally everything I’ve posted on questioning what’s going on is because I’m thinking wider than myself. Everything you have posted is from a fans perspective, and your personal requirements. By 'wider than yourself' I meant, which was probably obvious given the context, how speculation effects other parties. Town do business with lots of different companies, and will probably have a line of credit with many of them. Those suppliers need to know that Town are not going to renege on payments, which the threat of administration implies. Also the club employs a lot of people who need to know their wages are secure. That is why 'wider than yourself'. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 26, 2023 12:04:06 GMT 1
If,as stated elsewhere, Dean Hoyle is not getting anything from the sale,what exactly have the new owners bought? A football club with a lot of heritage and hopefully a loyal fan base . |
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 26, 2023 12:04:21 GMT 1
I’ve just got to ask , what crimes against humanity did DH commit over 14 years that stirred this animosity ? Nothing, the first time I saw him was when the gold, Centenary, away shirt went on sale, about the same time it was announced he'd come on board with Conman Ken. He was stood near the shop just looking at the queue. There was just something about him that I, instinctively, didn't trust and seeing him at the Q&A's at Canalside, over the years, didn't alter. That's not to say I wasn't grateful for what happened during most of his tenure but that didn't make me like him 🤷 Well I can tell you that I know a few people who have had dealings with him, whether that be as a friend or as a sponsor and I've never met anyone who has a bad word to say about him. My cousin owns a very successful business in Calderdale and met Dean Hoyle at an event for sponsors and he told me that he absolutely loves the club and just wants the best for it. His passion was very clear to see. I do not agree with many of his decisions but i don't think for a second he ever stuck two fingers up at the club. |
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Post by detox on Mar 26, 2023 12:13:20 GMT 1
If,as stated elsewhere, Dean Hoyle is not getting anything from the sale,what exactly have the new owners bought? has anyone mentioned how much he got for the shares yet ? |
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Post by goodbet on Mar 26, 2023 14:30:16 GMT 1
Time and time again some people seem to think that questioning what goes on at the club make you some sort of pariah.
We don't doff our caps when the local landowner passes by anymore, but some seem to think that we still should.
The takeover just seems a little off to me, as I mentioned previously the usual buyer of a football club is a rich successful business man and they likes to let the world know it.
It may be a good thing that this person, or group are different, but we should stay alert and not stick our heads in the sand and just hope for the best.
I know that we won't get to know everything and some things will take time to filter down to us poor ignored and taken for granted supporters.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2023 16:01:25 GMT 1
Time and time again some people seem to think that questioning what goes on at the club make you some sort of pariah. We don't doff our caps when the local landowner passes by anymore, but some seem to think that we still should. The takeover just seems a little off to me, as I mentioned previously the usual buyer of a football club is a rich successful business man and they likes to let the world know it. It may be a good thing that this person, or group are different, but we should stay alert and not stick our heads in the sand and just hope for the best. I know that we won't get to know everything and some things will take time to filter down to us poor ignored and taken for granted supporters. If you knew, could you affect it? How can you be suspicious of something you know absolutely nothing about, because no details have been released. Why can’t people understand that the club is a business, and there are ways business is done. If this all gets sorted and you don’t like the outcome then so what? However this deal frames up there will be posters on here who are unhappy, because they nearly always are. |
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Post by Leporid on Mar 26, 2023 17:55:52 GMT 1
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Post by goodbet on Mar 26, 2023 19:50:15 GMT 1
Time and time again some people seem to think that questioning what goes on at the club make you some sort of pariah. We don't doff our caps when the local landowner passes by anymore, but some seem to think that we still should. The takeover just seems a little off to me, as I mentioned previously the usual buyer of a football club is a rich successful business man and they likes to let the world know it. It may be a good thing that this person, or group are different, but we should stay alert and not stick our heads in the sand and just hope for the best. I know that we won't get to know everything and some things will take time to filter down to us poor ignored and taken for granted supporters. If you knew, could you affect it? How can you be suspicious of something you know absolutely nothing about, because no details have been released. Why can’t people understand that the club is a business, and there are ways business is done. If this all gets sorted and you don’t like the outcome then so what? However this deal frames up there will be posters on here who are unhappy, because they nearly always are. In life you never know what is round the corner, so it pays to be cautious from time to time. Sometimes it is the caution pays off and sometimes it doesn't. A football club is not just a business, for a lot of fans it is so much more than that. I could like some sit in a darkened room and take whatever crud get thrown at me, but that is not my way, I may not be able to change anything but we can make it clear if there are things we don't like. I realise for some Town may be just a business and they don't like to stick their heads above any parapet, but why would they want to stop anyone else? |
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Post by King Neil on Mar 26, 2023 20:08:05 GMT 1
There's some bitter and twisted folk on here!!
As a man in his early fifties I have seen some miserable times watching this club..attended our lowest recorded league crowd at Leeds Road against Halifax Town and then malcolm Mcdonald
There's a generation of town fans that have never seen the club play below the championship!!
The last 13/14 years of the clubs journey has been down to Dean hoyle...the good..bad ..and the ugly!!
Yes he has made mistakes,,but this dragging him across the coals is now getting funking embarrassing!!
A lot of our fans are complete c****
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Post by drewden on Mar 26, 2023 21:02:32 GMT 1
I would love to know the outcome of a poll, with a Hate D.H, or a Love D.H, with nothing inbetween.
Would certainly be interesting.
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Post by goodbet on Mar 26, 2023 21:24:00 GMT 1
I would love to know the outcome of a poll, with a Hate D.H, or a Love D.H, with nothing inbetween. Would certainly be interesting. Sounds a bit divisive. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 26, 2023 21:26:27 GMT 1
I would love to know the outcome of a poll, with a Hate D.H, or a Love D.H, with nothing inbetween. Would certainly be interesting. It certainly would be interesting indeed - I’ll put my cards on the table and go into the Love bracket... Paragraphs 2,3,4 and 5 in the above post by Donnyterrier have echoed ma opinion to the core and saves me writing them out ! |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 26, 2023 21:28:52 GMT 1
I would love to know the outcome of a poll, with a Hate D.H, or a Love D.H, with nothing inbetween. Would certainly be interesting. Sounds a bit divisive. Maybe an abstain choice for those on the fence of The Halfway House ! 😐 |
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