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Post by Sio on Mar 22, 2023 20:11:17 GMT 1
You dont have to stick around to get the money back you agree in a deal... its in the deal. You both sign it and leave them your bank details. If hes sticking around, then its probably because the new owners see a benefit in that and they persuaded him to agree to it,, reluctantly Id imagine. You cant possibly say what 'appears to be the best deal for the club' because like everyone else you have absolutely no idea what any of the deals are! correct Why did Dean stick around when he 'handed over' to Phil then? |
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Post by goodbet on Mar 22, 2023 20:12:12 GMT 1
Why would Dean want to stick around, the obvious reason was to see that he got as much money back as he could! The new owners would set the budget with Dean sitting at the table. If this is the case the deal dose not appear to be the best deal for the club. You dont have to stick around to get the money back you agree in a deal... its in the deal. You both sign it and leave them your bank details. If hes sticking around, then its probably because the new owners see a benefit in that and they persuaded him to agree to it,, reluctantly Id imagine. You cant possibly say what 'appears to be the best deal for the club' because like everyone else you have absolutely no idea what any of the deals are! It has been reported that Dean wanted out. It would appear that sticking around can only be for Dean to get his money back similar to his sale to PH. The chances of any new owner seeing a benefit of keeping Dean around could only to ensure that they don't copy any of his decisions since we were promoted. I can say that the "deal dose not appear to be the best deal for the club" because it doesn't. I can not say that it defiantly is not the best deal for the club as I don't know the details of this deal and any others that are in the offing. Any deal keeping Dean involved, I would find suspect and would not attend another match. I support Town not DH. |
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Post by sabailand on Mar 22, 2023 20:13:22 GMT 1
Walking down the street today a neighbours car sat under a car told me an update on the situation was imminent(and theres about as much fact in that as whats been posted on here lately). Your neighbour has a very small car 🤔 Oops typo, sorted ta.  |
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Mar 22, 2023 20:13:44 GMT 1
Milligan, Everett, Cleese......Sessions This has gone over a lot of people’s heads! 😂 It sure has 😆 |
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Post by ldr on Mar 22, 2023 20:15:29 GMT 1
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Post by bedsman on Mar 22, 2023 20:16:01 GMT 1
Well that's twice he/she has been tagged in less than an hour so I bet they're wondering what the hell is going on when they next log in. Because you have to be logged in to like or dislike a post. bedsman give us a post, bedsman bedsman give us a post! |
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Mar 22, 2023 20:16:07 GMT 1
Do you not think that journalists are probing the Man U deal and the interested parties are using the media? Man U are one of the biggest clubs in th e world and are being sold for billions. It's newsworthy and that's why stuff is coming out. unfortunately, other than Town fans no one gives a shite about our little old sale!! The point I’m making is it wouldn’t hurt for some clarity and communication from the club. It won’t have a detrimental impact to the take over It's a good point, but a totally unrealistic one. |
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Mar 22, 2023 20:16:25 GMT 1
Tommy Cooper, centre half, but is he classed as a comedian or a magician, or general entertainer? Either way him and Russ Abbot are my centre backs. Russ Abbot was very underated |
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Post by bedsman on Mar 22, 2023 20:16:35 GMT 1
OK, by popular demand (ha ha) here is my first post! I’m mildly flattered to have been the centre of attention for about two minutes, it doesn’t happen very often.
I don’t post because I fear if I start it will be difficult to stop, but I do enjoy reading the comments and I just cannot help myself in clicking the like and dislike buttons ! Of course this is not very nuanced, it’s black or white so often is not really convey my thoughts, I hope no one is unduly offended by my occasional dislikes! (sometimes it just means something like “your valuation Captain is miles out! !).
I’ve been a town fan since 1969/70 season (I was so excited after the end of season Watford game that I missed the last bus home, it was a long walk for a young teenager!).
Regarding this thread, my main point would be that I simply don’t feel we have enough knowledge to really comment (until pressed!!). Until some real information comes out about what is being offered and by who, etc. it’s not possible in my view to make an informed judgement.
So I must say, it feels a tad ridiculous that people are so excited about the idea of a US billionaire owner when there is very little information about who this is, why they are interested, and what their intentions are.
Regarding the apparent Dutch “offer”, with the very limited information we have I would be more inclined to favour this one because Neelissen appears to have a good track record - he’s made a success of Atlas Professionals - so must now have available funds following the sale to Hal Investments BV (but with EBITDA of € 9 m. in 2020, Atlas is not a very big business!). He also seems to have made a success of the Nelsons shoe business (similar size to the Card Factory?), Most importantly he’s made a long-term success of AZ – and the idea that Huddersfield would be a feeder for AZ feels a bit ridiculous to me as the Premier league is far more likely to generate riches than the Dutch league, so would seem the most likely reason for his interest?
I don’t know Dean Hoyle (I’ve met him briefly and found him a bit aloof, perhaps rather self-important) but I recognise he’s put a lot of time and money into the club, and is still funding it today - whether we like it or not.
To me, he’s brought a lot of the current anger on himself because of his poor decision-making, which we can choose to blame him for if we wish! The money wasted when we were in the Premier league was just crazy, and probably a consequence of his inability to assess people and build a competent team.
Perhaps the biggest example of this was selling 75% of the club to PH, it didn’t need anyone with an MBA (which I don’t have) to realise that the Pure business model was weak and quite likely to fail at some point (ambulance chasing commission sales, needing to pay lawyers upfront long before receiving any income, weaknesses with sectors such as whiplash cases, cavity wall companies that could never pay up, and on and on !).
But it doesn’t surprise me that new owners may want to retain Dean over a transitional period, especially whilst he’s the only “approved person” - and he’ll certainly want to try to get something back from his “investment”. I’m not sure how much it would be reasonable for him to take back, much of what he put in was because he wanted the kudos and it was his risk, but it’s probably reasonable that he can take something back before the door is finally closed on the Dean Hoyle era. New owners will certainly not want (and won’t allow him) to have any influence on policy, so I don’t think there is much likelihood that he’ll hang around for long this time round!
So, those are my comments on something that in my view we don’t have enough information to comment on!! 😊
The other reason I don’t post is that once you start, someone is bound to object to something you write, so then you have two choices, you either get drawn into the discussion, or you just have to accept it and leave it there.
Anyway that is what I am going to do, so feel free to raise to anything you don’t agree with, but I’m probably going to be a bit irritating because I am not going to respond I’m afraid.
At least not for another 13 years. All the best and UTT.
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Post by boooothy on Mar 22, 2023 20:20:08 GMT 1
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Mar 22, 2023 20:22:48 GMT 1
OK, by popular demand (ha ha) here is my first post! I’m mildly flattered to have been the centre of attention for about two minutes, it doesn’t happen very often. I don’t post because I fear if I start it will be difficult to stop, but I do enjoy reading the comments and I just cannot help myself in clicking the like and dislike buttons ! Of course this is not very nuanced, it’s black or white so often is not really convey my thoughts, I hope no one is unduly offended by my occasional dislikes! (sometimes it just means something like “your valuation Captain is miles out! !). I’ve been a town fan since 1969/70 season (I was so excited after the end of season Watford game that I missed the last bus home, it was a long walk for a young teenager!). Regarding this thread, my main point would be that I simply don’t feel we have enough knowledge to really comment (until pressed!!). Until some real information comes out about what is being offered and by who, etc. it’s not possible in my view to make an informed judgement. So I must say, it feels a tad ridiculous that people are so excited about the idea of a US billionaire owner when there is very little information about who this is, why they are interested, and what their intentions are. Regarding the apparent Dutch “offer”, with the very limited information we have I would be more inclined to favour this one because Neelissen appears to have a good track record - he’s made a success of Atlas Professionals - so must now have available funds following the sale to Hal Investments BV (but with EBITDA of € 9 m. in 2020, Atlas is not a very big business!). He also seems to have made a success of the Nelsons shoe business (similar size to the Card Factory?), Most importantly he’s made a long-term success of AZ – and the idea that Huddersfield would be a feeder for AZ feels a bit ridiculous to me as the Premier league is far more likely to generate riches than the Dutch league, so would seem the most likely reason for his interest? I don’t know Dean Hoyle (I’ve met him briefly and found him a bit aloof, perhaps rather self-important) but I recognise he’s put a lot of time and money into the club, and is still funding it today - whether we like it or not. To me, he’s brought a lot of the current anger on himself because of his poor decision-making, which we can choose to blame him for if we wish! The money wasted when we were in the Premier league was just crazy, and probably a consequence of his inability to assess people and build a competent team. Perhaps the biggest example of this was selling 75% of the club to PH, it didn’t need anyone with an MBA (which I don’t have) to realise that the Pure business model was weak and quite likely to fail at some point (ambulance chasing commission sales, needing to pay lawyers upfront long before receiving any income, weaknesses with sectors such as whiplash cases, cavity wall companies that could never pay up, and on and on !). But it doesn’t surprise me that new owners may want to retain Dean over a transitional period, especially whilst he’s the only “approved person” - and he’ll certainly want to try to get something back from his “investment”. I’m not sure how much it would be reasonable for him to take back, much of what he put in was because he wanted the kudos and it was his risk, but it’s probably reasonable that he can take something back before the door is finally closed on the Dean Hoyle era. New owners will certainly not want (and won’t allow him) to have any influence on policy, so I don’t think there is much likelihood that he’ll hang around for long this time round! So, those are my comments on something that in my view we don’t have enough information to comment on!! 😊 The other reason I don’t post is that once you start, someone is bound to object to something you write, so then you have two choices, you either get drawn into the discussion, or you just have to accept it and leave it there. Anyway that is what I am going to do, so feel free to raise to anything you don’t agree with, but I’m probably going to be a bit irritating because I am not going to respond I’m afraid. At least not for another 13 years. All the best and UTT. Well you've never liked one of my posts. Consider ya sen blocked 😆 |
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 22, 2023 20:24:10 GMT 1
I was thinking the same thing! As if people still post on the desktop version! The app is crap though to be fair. |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 22, 2023 20:26:16 GMT 1
The point I’m making is it wouldn’t hurt for some clarity and communication from the club. It won’t have a detrimental impact to the take over It's a good point, but a totally unrealistic one. But also, what is there for the club to say? We all know that parties are interested. So until one has been completed, what can the club tell us? |
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 22, 2023 20:29:51 GMT 1
bedsman You have honestly made my day, pal. Superb to hear from you. I was looking at your profile the other day and never in a million years did I think you'd make a post after 10 years of 'radio silence'. Absolutely made my day, pal. UTT. Have fun!
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Post by tockyterrier on Mar 22, 2023 20:32:59 GMT 1
Why did Dean stick around when he 'handed over' to Phil then? Hypothetically. DH could.have retained 25% with PH to make sure he got some dept paid off. Or Because he thought there was always a risk of what has happened happening and we'd go bust if he didn't. Or Because PH could afford the deal that wod allow DH to sell 100% Or He wanted make sure that PH didn't pay him back by using the money that was earmarked for improving Canalside. Who knows, bit not necessarily anything to be concerned about. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 22, 2023 20:52:33 GMT 1
Bedsman for new owner
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 22, 2023 20:53:28 GMT 1
Because it is? DM who else if not, you won’t because it is. |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 22, 2023 21:17:04 GMT 1
Got to love the condescending manner of this post only to then come out with something completely wrong Fair enough if I’m wrong I’m wrong, not impressed how one person is dictating the agenda on here regardless. Hoyle has his little army dictating an agenda too |
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Mar 22, 2023 21:20:51 GMT 1
Because it is? DM who else if not, you won’t because it is. Sorry if I've missed summat but who's ? |
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Post by Sio on Mar 22, 2023 21:21:31 GMT 1
Because it is? DM who else if not, you won’t because it is. Are you Richard Keogh then? |
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Post by Sio on Mar 22, 2023 21:22:45 GMT 1
Because it is? DM who else if not, you won’t because it is. Sorry if I've missed summat but who's ? Lady who works/used to work(?) at the ticket office called. Posted a lot on Twitter. Be the worst undercover poster to include your surname in your alias! |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 22, 2023 21:25:33 GMT 1
OK, by popular demand (ha ha) here is my first post! I’m mildly flattered to have been the centre of attention for about two minutes, it doesn’t happen very often. I don’t post because I fear if I start it will be difficult to stop, but I do enjoy reading the comments and I just cannot help myself in clicking the like and dislike buttons ! Of course this is not very nuanced, it’s black or white so often is not really convey my thoughts, I hope no one is unduly offended by my occasional dislikes! (sometimes it just means something like “your valuation Captain is miles out! !). I’ve been a town fan since 1969/70 season (I was so excited after the end of season Watford game that I missed the last bus home, it was a long walk for a young teenager!). Regarding this thread, my main point would be that I simply don’t feel we have enough knowledge to really comment (until pressed!!). Until some real information comes out about what is being offered and by who, etc. it’s not possible in my view to make an informed judgement. So I must say, it feels a tad ridiculous that people are so excited about the idea of a US billionaire owner when there is very little information about who this is, why they are interested, and what their intentions are. Regarding the apparent Dutch “offer”, with the very limited information we have I would be more inclined to favour this one because Neelissen appears to have a good track record - he’s made a success of Atlas Professionals - so must now have available funds following the sale to Hal Investments BV (but with EBITDA of € 9 m. in 2020, Atlas is not a very big business!). He also seems to have made a success of the Nelsons shoe business (similar size to the Card Factory?), Most importantly he’s made a long-term success of AZ – and the idea that Huddersfield would be a feeder for AZ feels a bit ridiculous to me as the Premier league is far more likely to generate riches than the Dutch league, so would seem the most likely reason for his interest? I don’t know Dean Hoyle (I’ve met him briefly and found him a bit aloof, perhaps rather self-important) but I recognise he’s put a lot of time and money into the club, and is still funding it today - whether we like it or not. To me, he’s brought a lot of the current anger on himself because of his poor decision-making, which we can choose to blame him for if we wish! The money wasted when we were in the Premier league was just crazy, and probably a consequence of his inability to assess people and build a competent team. Perhaps the biggest example of this was selling 75% of the club to PH, it didn’t need anyone with an MBA (which I don’t have) to realise that the Pure business model was weak and quite likely to fail at some point (ambulance chasing commission sales, needing to pay lawyers upfront long before receiving any income, weaknesses with sectors such as whiplash cases, cavity wall companies that could never pay up, and on and on !). But it doesn’t surprise me that new owners may want to retain Dean over a transitional period, especially whilst he’s the only “approved person” - and he’ll certainly want to try to get something back from his “investment”. I’m not sure how much it would be reasonable for him to take back, much of what he put in was because he wanted the kudos and it was his risk, but it’s probably reasonable that he can take something back before the door is finally closed on the Dean Hoyle era. New owners will certainly not want (and won’t allow him) to have any influence on policy, so I don’t think there is much likelihood that he’ll hang around for long this time round! So, those are my comments on something that in my view we don’t have enough information to comment on!! 😊 The other reason I don’t post is that once you start, someone is bound to object to something you write, so then you have two choices, you either get drawn into the discussion, or you just have to accept it and leave it there. Anyway that is what I am going to do, so feel free to raise to anything you don’t agree with, but I’m probably going to be a bit irritating because I am not going to respond I’m afraid. At least not for another 13 years. All the best and UTT. Well, that was worth the wait 👏👏👏 |
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Post by dezzly on Mar 22, 2023 21:25:35 GMT 1
OK, by popular demand (ha ha) here is my first post! I’m mildly flattered to have been the centre of attention for about two minutes, it doesn’t happen very often. I don’t post because I fear if I start it will be difficult to stop, but I do enjoy reading the comments and I just cannot help myself in clicking the like and dislike buttons ! Of course this is not very nuanced, it’s black or white so often is not really convey my thoughts, I hope no one is unduly offended by my occasional dislikes! (sometimes it just means something like “your valuation Captain is miles out! !). I’ve been a town fan since 1969/70 season (I was so excited after the end of season Watford game that I missed the last bus home, it was a long walk for a young teenager!). Regarding this thread, my main point would be that I simply don’t feel we have enough knowledge to really comment (until pressed!!). Until some real information comes out about what is being offered and by who, etc. it’s not possible in my view to make an informed judgement. So I must say, it feels a tad ridiculous that people are so excited about the idea of a US billionaire owner when there is very little information about who this is, why they are interested, and what their intentions are. Regarding the apparent Dutch “offer”, with the very limited information we have I would be more inclined to favour this one because Neelissen appears to have a good track record - he’s made a success of Atlas Professionals - so must now have available funds following the sale to Hal Investments BV (but with EBITDA of € 9 m. in 2020, Atlas is not a very big business!). He also seems to have made a success of the Nelsons shoe business (similar size to the Card Factory?), Most importantly he’s made a long-term success of AZ – and the idea that Huddersfield would be a feeder for AZ feels a bit ridiculous to me as the Premier league is far more likely to generate riches than the Dutch league, so would seem the most likely reason for his interest? I don’t know Dean Hoyle (I’ve met him briefly and found him a bit aloof, perhaps rather self-important) but I recognise he’s put a lot of time and money into the club, and is still funding it today - whether we like it or not. To me, he’s brought a lot of the current anger on himself because of his poor decision-making, which we can choose to blame him for if we wish! The money wasted when we were in the Premier league was just crazy, and probably a consequence of his inability to assess people and build a competent team. Perhaps the biggest example of this was selling 75% of the club to PH, it didn’t need anyone with an MBA (which I don’t have) to realise that the Pure business model was weak and quite likely to fail at some point (ambulance chasing commission sales, needing to pay lawyers upfront long before receiving any income, weaknesses with sectors such as whiplash cases, cavity wall companies that could never pay up, and on and on !). But it doesn’t surprise me that new owners may want to retain Dean over a transitional period, especially whilst he’s the only “approved person” - and he’ll certainly want to try to get something back from his “investment”. I’m not sure how much it would be reasonable for him to take back, much of what he put in was because he wanted the kudos and it was his risk, but it’s probably reasonable that he can take something back before the door is finally closed on the Dean Hoyle era. New owners will certainly not want (and won’t allow him) to have any influence on policy, so I don’t think there is much likelihood that he’ll hang around for long this time round! So, those are my comments on something that in my view we don’t have enough information to comment on!! 😊 The other reason I don’t post is that once you start, someone is bound to object to something you write, so then you have two choices, you either get drawn into the discussion, or you just have to accept it and leave it there. Anyway that is what I am going to do, so feel free to raise to anything you don’t agree with, but I’m probably going to be a bit irritating because I am not going to respond I’m afraid. At least not for another 13 years. All the best and UTT. Bloody hell I wish I could have put it like that 😂 |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 22, 2023 21:30:24 GMT 1
Sorry if I've missed summat but who's ? Lady who works/used to work(?) at the ticket office called. Posted a lot on Twitter. Be the worst undercover poster to include your surname in your alias! Not seen her on twitter for a while |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2023 21:35:29 GMT 1
The way some hang onto his every word.. or even his every like.. if I was him Id have some right fun on here winding them up! To be honest I think he does a bit anyway. beat me to it! There is nobody, absolutely nobody in the club (DH excepted) who would be privy to such info across all pillars of the business, on the football side, to strategic direction apart from Baldwin and Anne Hough (and I’m not saying MB is her !). |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 22, 2023 21:36:56 GMT 1
Sorry if I've missed summat but who's ? Lady who works/used to work(?) at the ticket office called. Posted a lot on Twitter. Be the worst undercover poster to include your surname in your alias! You’d have to be dumb to not realise who it is on posting history. It’s HTFC not the CIA how many people do you think there are with that surname who are fans of the club and have had internal information? Let’s leave it there. |
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Post by Tez on Mar 22, 2023 21:40:46 GMT 1
Lady who works/used to work(?) at the ticket office called Stef Maynard. Posted a lot on Twitter. Be the worst undercover poster to include your surname in your alias! You’d have to be dumb to not realise who it is on posting history. Let’s leave it there. Thing is you can’t ‘leave it there’.. cue the next merry go round 🤣👍🏻 |
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Post by specialun on Mar 22, 2023 21:43:00 GMT 1
I know nothing about this
But as I’ve said before im sure some of our directors would not want to let the club go into admin…
Turkeys voting for Christmas with the scrutiny they’d face!
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Post by space hardware on Mar 22, 2023 21:43:09 GMT 1
Lady who works/used to work(?) at the ticket office called Stef Maynard. Posted a lot on Twitter. Be the worst undercover poster to include your surname in your alias! You’d have to be dumb to not realise who it is on posting history. It’s HTFC not the CIA how many people do you think there are with that surname who are fans of the club and have had internal information? Let’s leave it there. I'm dumb then, because I have no idea who it is 😭 |
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Post by 4 pts on Mar 22, 2023 21:45:44 GMT 1
Because it is? DM who else if not, you won’t because it is. I have no idea who anyone is on here and it doesn't interest me. Is there a reason you need to find out who Maynard is ? |
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