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Post by Wingman on Apr 10, 2023 18:29:57 GMT 1
Was there again, and disappointed we couldn’t hold on, but Blackburn kept the press going and deserved a point. For me we sat way too deep and 5-4-1 at home is calling for being pressed.
Hungbo has to be on our list to obtain for next season, felt Rudoni and Kasumu were decent again and Vaclik, take a bow son as you were first class with some of them saves.
A point that could be very valuable in a few weeks time.
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Post by tockyterrier on Apr 10, 2023 18:40:06 GMT 1
You have to have a threat, even when winning a game. If not centre halves and full backs become extra attackers and you are living on hope. Sitting in and holding a line might work, sitting in an 2 dropping behind the line time after time, leads to what we saw today practically for the whole game. Blackburn looked vulnerable at the back but they can play forward if you allow them to, look how many games they have lost. Wrong tactics in the second half and failure to give us a threat to stop them all joining in every attack. Its a lucky point and we need a goalkeeper not a camera save merchant. I'm sorry, but Warnock managed for 40 years, come in and turned us around from being 5pts adrift and got 3 wins on the bounce. What exactly is on your CV that means you know more than him?
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Apr 10, 2023 18:41:27 GMT 1
2-0 up or not defending that deep is asking for trouble. Coming out of the ground a lad in front of me was saying Blackburn are the best side after Burnley that we have played at home, they played very well but who wouldn't with all the space to play in. Before the game i said i would take a point so happy enough.
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 10, 2023 18:44:31 GMT 1
When you can’t get hold of the ball and you’re defending a lead, as the game wears on and players tire, it’s natural for the players to drop deeper and deeper regardless of tactics.
Sure the intention was to try and play higher up the pitch because on the odd occasion we did get forward the defense pushed up to near half way.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 10, 2023 18:50:37 GMT 1
You have to have a threat, even when winning a game. If not centre halves and full backs become extra attackers and you are living on hope. Sitting in and holding a line might work, sitting in an 2 dropping behind the line time after time, leads to what we saw today practically for the whole game. Blackburn looked vulnerable at the back but they can play forward if you allow them to, look how many games they have lost. Wrong tactics in the second half and failure to give us a threat to stop them all joining in every attack. Its a lucky point and we need a goalkeeper not a camera save merchant. I'm sorry, but Warnock managed for 40 years, come in and turned us around from being 5pts adrift and got 3 wins on the bounce. What exactly is on your CV that means you know more than him? Dont require a cv to know this squad, this season is highly likely to concede the last goal.. Dont require a cv to know that if you provide zero threat for as long as we did today the opposition will eventually get men over and make good chances. Bravery in reasonable amounts has got us here, we lacked it today when it was needed, even if it was just to get the ball up the pitch. Neil didnt get it right today, the second half proved it and we watched it happen. Blackburn were and are good going forwards, our 2 goals prove they are defensively susceptible, we played for them for 50 minutes today.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 10, 2023 19:04:09 GMT 1
When you can’t get hold of the ball and you’re defending a lead, as the game wears on and players tire, it’s natural for the players to drop deeper and deeper regardless of tactics. Sure the intention was to try and play higher up the pitch because on the odd occasion we did get forward the defense pushed up to near half way. You allow a good attacking team to get 25 yards out time after time without even being faced up and eventually you will suffer. They had 3 good chances from simple deflected passes because we were so deep and they had the bodies forward. Why simpson wasnt used when Ward ran out of legs, we dont know? You have to have a threat of some kind to stop the opposition defenders becoming part of the open play attacks. We all realise we are not going gung ho, even when losing we dont but the opposition have to at least be aware there is a threat. Hate to see opposition centre halves running the ball up to our 18 yard box or them becoming the pivot for moving the ball just outside our box.
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Post by ACW on Apr 10, 2023 19:11:58 GMT 1
When you can’t get hold of the ball and you’re defending a lead, as the game wears on and players tire, it’s natural for the players to drop deeper and deeper regardless of tactics. Sure the intention was to try and play higher up the pitch because on the odd occasion we did get forward the defense pushed up to near half way. We haven't got hold of the ball at any time since Warnock came in. In some games our lack of possession has hurt us, in others it hasn't. We will play this way until the end of the season so we have to a) hope we continue to make the most of our limited attacks and b) hope we can defend against teams with 70-80% possession every match. To be fair to Warnock, his tactics have worked more often than not. We will see in the coming weeks whether they are good enough to keep us in the Championship. 🤞
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 10, 2023 19:13:17 GMT 1
When you can’t get hold of the ball and you’re defending a lead, as the game wears on and players tire, it’s natural for the players to drop deeper and deeper regardless of tactics. Sure the intention was to try and play higher up the pitch because on the odd occasion we did get forward the defense pushed up to near half way. You allow a good attacking team to get 25 yards out time after time without even being faced up and eventually you will suffer. They had 3 good chances from simple deflected passes because we were so deep and they had the bodies forward. Why simpson wasnt used when Ward ran out of legs, we dont know? You have to have a threat of some kind to stop the opposition defenders becoming part of the open play attacks. We all realise we are not going gung ho, even when losing we dont but the opposition have to at least be aware there is a threat. Hate to see opposition centre halves running the ball up to our 18 yard box or them becoming the pivot for moving the ball just outside our box. Yep fair point, I couldn’t really understand why Simpson didn’t come on, but I think if we’d have pushed up more we’d have just left bigger gaps today. It was odd how we didn’t get fresh legs on sooner though
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Post by Leporid on Apr 10, 2023 19:15:37 GMT 1
We are not used to heavy rain in the Huddersfield veldt and Town struggle to produce their characteristic champagne football in monsoon conditions. In the key stats field Town scored two.
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 10, 2023 19:15:44 GMT 1
Looked bad at the time, even worse in video. Be a long ban that. If that was my kid id be waiting at the tunnel The kid was a bit of a dick with the ball. Went to give it him then moved out of his way into his other hand. Think like a Basketball type move. All of our ballboys at that end of the field are regularly bellends in terms of not giving the ball back decently and wanting to be part of the show. Doesn't seem to happen at the other end of the field at all for some reason?
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Post by Bilo the Bantam on Apr 10, 2023 19:24:03 GMT 1
Fair play, I thought you were goners but looks like you’ll be safe.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 10, 2023 19:29:06 GMT 1
You have to have a threat, even when winning a game. If not centre halves and full backs become extra attackers and you are living on hope. Sitting in and holding a line might work, sitting in an 2 dropping behind the line time after time, leads to what we saw today practically for the whole game. Blackburn looked vulnerable at the back but they can play forward if you allow them to, look how many games they have lost. Wrong tactics in the second half and failure to give us a threat to stop them all joining in every attack. Its a lucky point and we need a goalkeeper not a camera save merchant. I'm sorry, but Warnock managed for 40 years, come in and turned us around from being 5pts adrift and got 3 wins on the bounce. What exactly is on your CV that means you know more than him? Hang on is sir Alec ferggybum trolling again?
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Post by waggers on Apr 10, 2023 19:34:43 GMT 1
I know it feels like a kick in the balls but that's a fair result, if we drew from 2 nil down instead of 2 nil up we'd be over the moon. Point on the board let's see what the others do. Not really a fair result though is it. They absolutely battered us! I was impressed with Blackburn. Showed far more resolve than a team which has lost as many games as they have this season. A very good point for us, I think. I know what you mean by fair result I just meant we didn't deserve the 3 points, they will certainly feel the harder done by.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 10, 2023 19:35:31 GMT 1
Oh and Szmodics is in my top 5 most hated now👍 We were linked with him a couple of seasons ago
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 10, 2023 19:35:58 GMT 1
You allow a good attacking team to get 25 yards out time after time without even being faced up and eventually you will suffer. They had 3 good chances from simple deflected passes because we were so deep and they had the bodies forward. Why simpson wasnt used when Ward ran out of legs, we dont know? You have to have a threat of some kind to stop the opposition defenders becoming part of the open play attacks. We all realise we are not going gung ho, even when losing we dont but the opposition have to at least be aware there is a threat. Hate to see opposition centre halves running the ball up to our 18 yard box or them becoming the pivot for moving the ball just outside our box. Yep fair point, I couldn’t really understand why Simpson didn’t come on, but I think if we’d have pushed up more we’d have just left bigger gaps today. It was odd how we didn’t get fresh legs on sooner though Wardys legs had gone, a fresh simpson might have got closer to one or two clearances or at least bumped a defender or two, its not asking him to do anything but be a nuisance and a threat to hold the ball or keep it up there for a bit. We all know our limitations, but the opposition have to cover for it.
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Post by sapphireblue on Apr 10, 2023 19:37:41 GMT 1
The kid was a bit of a dick with the ball. Went to give it him then moved out of his way into his other hand. Think like a Basketball type move. All of our ballboys at that end of the field are regularly bellends in terms of not giving the ball back decently and wanting to be part of the show. Doesn't seem to happen at the other end of the field at all for some reason? 100% irrelevant to the incident.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 10, 2023 19:39:25 GMT 1
Fairly sure they did see it - lino called the ref over to speak to him and no action was taken amazingly That’s my main gripe . They colluded into doing fuck all about a grown man effectively assaulting a child. Tbf, the ballboy was bigger than fucking Tattoo
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Post by Drew Peacock on Apr 10, 2023 19:40:58 GMT 1
You have to have a threat, even when winning a game. If not centre halves and full backs become extra attackers and you are living on hope. Sitting in and holding a line might work, sitting in an 2 dropping behind the line time after time, leads to what we saw today practically for the whole game. Blackburn looked vulnerable at the back but they can play forward if you allow them to, look how many games they have lost. Wrong tactics in the second half and failure to give us a threat to stop them all joining in every attack. Its a lucky point and we need a goalkeeper not a camera save merchant. I'm sorry, but Warnock managed for 40 years, come in and turned us around from being 5pts adrift and got 3 wins on the bounce. What exactly is on your CV that means you know more than him? Don't be so precious. He rightly gets the plaudits when he gets it right, but he's also going to get called out when he gets it wrong, which he clearly did today.
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Post by mightyterrier on Apr 10, 2023 19:44:51 GMT 1
2-2, great result against a side who look very good. Keep picking up points and we’ll be safe well before the last game of the season, happy days!!
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Post by Yank on Apr 10, 2023 19:45:23 GMT 1
Oh and Szmodics is in my top 5 most hated now👍 We were linked with him a couple of seasons ago I remember and even though a decent player,too much of a prick imo and glad plays for someone else.
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 10, 2023 19:49:16 GMT 1
All of our ballboys at that end of the field are regularly bellends in terms of not giving the ball back decently and wanting to be part of the show. Doesn't seem to happen at the other end of the field at all for some reason? 100% irrelevant to the incident. It was a comment on alexdire's observation about the kid being a bit of a dick & obviously wholly relevant to that part of the discussion.
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 10, 2023 19:49:58 GMT 1
When you can’t get hold of the ball and you’re defending a lead, as the game wears on and players tire, it’s natural for the players to drop deeper and deeper regardless of tactics. Sure the intention was to try and play higher up the pitch because on the odd occasion we did get forward the defense pushed up to near half way. You allow a good attacking team to get 25 yards out time after time without even being faced up and eventually you will suffer. They had 3 good chances from simple deflected passes because we were so deep and they had the bodies forward. Why simpson wasnt used when Ward ran out of legs, we dont know? You have to have a threat of some kind to stop the opposition defenders becoming part of the open play attacks. We all realise we are not going gung ho, even when losing we dont but the opposition have to at least be aware there is a threat. Hate to see opposition centre halves running the ball up to our 18 yard box or them becoming the pivot for moving the ball just outside our box. I don’t understand the tactics but we did exactly the same at Watford.
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Post by willhudd on Apr 10, 2023 19:50:27 GMT 1
Hard to talk about subs - warnock has earned the right to do as he pleases for me. Always a case for subs in any match not won. Hindsight is always right!
Battled hard against a young team with quality and a fair amount of players from their youth team who have been together a while.
If hogg gets that header anywhere on target at 3-1 I think it's game over but have to be happy with the point.
Kasumu with decent decision making has the potential to be a real player for us especially next to Jack- all about the coaching and something I hope that is factored in with the next manager and coaching staff
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 10, 2023 20:58:59 GMT 1
Vaxkik - Outstanding Rudoni & Ward- ran their bollocks off. Pearson/Lees/Helik - diito Hogg -Shocking performance. Never put a tackle in, ran away from the ball. If he'd been any further back he'd have been behind Vaclik.
Some good/desperate defending today,but our captain was crap!!!
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Post by sapphireblue on Apr 10, 2023 21:07:01 GMT 1
100% irrelevant to the incident. It was a comment on alexdire's observation about the kid being a bit of a dick & obviously wholly relevant to that part of the discussion. If you say so.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 21:08:41 GMT 1
Vaxkik - Outstanding Rudoni & Ward- ran their bollocks off. Pearson/Lees/Helik - diito Hogg -Shocking performance. Never put a tackle in, ran away from the ball. If he'd been any further back he'd have been behind Vaclik. Some good/desperate defending today,but our captain was crap!!! Hoggy is 34 years old and these last few games will have taken a toll on most of the players. He pushed out a lot. Closed down where there were gaps but he was positioned, by Warnock I presume, in a deep cenral defensive midfield role, and that is what he did. He played deep, probably, beacuse Warnock had noted Blackburn like to play through gaps in the middle, which they did a lot. You seem to see a rather one dimensional game.
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Post by 3Pipe on Apr 10, 2023 21:12:41 GMT 1
Kasumu with decent decision making Careful. Got fucking massacred on here for implying he was no Luca Modric today.
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Post by wildhogg on Apr 10, 2023 21:19:45 GMT 1
Vaclik must have been some keeper in his prime. Others wouldn't have made several of the saves he pulled off today.
Really impressed by Blackburn, more so as I genuinely hadn't heard of a lot of the players in their team. We allowed them to do what they wanted for much of the game, but it's quite possible that they'd have picked us off with great ease if we'd pushed up more.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 10, 2023 21:20:25 GMT 1
Kasumu with decent decision making Careful. Got fucking massacred on here for implying he was no Luca Modric today. I thought he was garbage, he runs around a lot but his touch is terrible as was his passing and shooting,he grafted hard though, give him that.
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Post by 3Pipe on Apr 10, 2023 21:25:03 GMT 1
Careful. Got fucking massacred on here for implying he was no Luca Modric today. I thought he was garbage, he runs around a lot but his touch is terrible as was his passing and shooting,he grafted hard though, give him that. Agree 100% mate. Some reet fkn clowns on here. If he controlled a ball better, he wouldn't have half as much ratting around to do. Same with a lot of them.
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