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Post by Tinpot on May 1, 2023 7:35:37 GMT 1
If that’s a comment on my earlier post, you’ve missed my point. If we do go down on GD, it will be because of the current GD not goals that are scored in the last 2 games. From here, it’s only points that matter. So if we get battered 5-0 Blades and Reading beat us by 2 goals GD won’t matter?….. Same outcome as if we lose both by a single goal - i.e. we finish below Reading. Likelihood of goal difference being critical now is theoretical only. We can't affect it Vs Reading, and the only way we can affect it Vs Rotherham is if BOTH of the following happen: 1) We lose both of our remaining games. 2) Rotherham draw one and lose the other by at least 9 goals. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 1, 2023 7:41:44 GMT 1
A draw is as good as a win now. Keep it tight at the back and see if we can hit them on the break.
My guess is that we'll lose, if only because we never do things the easy way.
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Post by terriers2000 on May 1, 2023 7:44:41 GMT 1
2-1 win
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on May 1, 2023 8:09:38 GMT 1
Biggest game against Sheff Utd since the play-off final in 2012. Got a feeling we'll win; just hope the game v Reading isn't going to be the biggest against them since the 2017 play-off final.
Strange that the last 2 games are against teams we played in our last 2 play-off finals. Hopefully both haven't still got a bee in their bonnets about the respective outcomes!
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Post by ItsCalderOutside on May 1, 2023 8:20:06 GMT 1
Biggest game against Sheff Utd since the play-off final in 2012. Got a feeling we'll win; just hope the game v Reading isn't going to be the biggest against them since the 2017 play-off final. Strange that the last 2 games are against teams we played in our last 2 play-off finals. Hopefully both haven't still got a bee in their bonnets about the respective outcomes! I too have tried to forgot the play of final last year. Seems you’re doing a better job of it than me! |
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Post by digs on May 1, 2023 8:28:19 GMT 1
Biggest game against Sheff Utd since the play-off final in 2012. Got a feeling we'll win; just hope the game v Reading isn't going to be the biggest against them since the 2017 play-off final. Strange that the last 2 games are against teams we played in our last 2 play-off finals. Hopefully both haven't still got a bee in their bonnets about the respective outcomes! and our biggest game before the next two was in the City where we won the 2004 play off final  |
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Post by drewden on May 1, 2023 8:50:03 GMT 1
Think Warnock will go cautious and go defensively and limit Sheff U, my guess would be a Sheff U 1 - 0 win or a 0 - 0 draw, a lot of dilemas in this match, if we are losing with 15 mins to go do we try and snatch an equaliser or sit back and prey they do not get another.
If we do lose by 1- 0, then the scenario will be repeated in the Reading game.
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Post by onesteviekindon on May 1, 2023 8:56:09 GMT 1
Think Warnock will go cautious and go defensively and limit Sheff U, my guess would be a Sheff U 1 - 0 win or a 0 - 0 draw, a lot of dilemas in this match, if we are losing with 15 mins to go do we try and snatch an equaliser or sit back and prey they do not get another. If we do lose by 1- 0, then the scenario will be repeated in the Reading game. What would be the point of sitting back if we are losing against Sheffield? Surely throw the bloody kitchen sink at them to try for the point is a far better tactic. |
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Post by drewden on May 1, 2023 9:03:44 GMT 1
Think Warnock will go cautious and go defensively and limit Sheff U, my guess would be a Sheff U 1 - 0 win or a 0 - 0 draw, a lot of dilemas in this match, if we are losing with 15 mins to go do we try and snatch an equaliser or sit back and prey they do not get another. If we do lose by 1- 0, then the scenario will be repeated in the Reading game. What would be the point of sitting back if we are losing against Sheffield? Surely throw the bloody kitchen sink at them to try for the point is a far better tactic. The goal difference is a big factor, you could be right forget tactics and just go for a full throttle attack with Sheff U, if we lose 2 or 3, 0 so be it. And prey to God we beat Reading. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on May 1, 2023 9:08:43 GMT 1
We got a point away at Stamford Bridge in 2018 when nobody gave us a prayer, we can do it again Thursday in what is on paper much easier circumstances.
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Post by terrier17 on May 1, 2023 9:10:10 GMT 1
What would be the point of sitting back if we are losing against Sheffield? Surely throw the bloody kitchen sink at them to try for the point is a far better tactic. The goal difference is a big factor, you could be right forget tactics and just go for a full throttle attack with Sheff U, if we lose 2 or 3, 0 so be it. And prey to God we beat Reading. Or Draw… |
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Post by Big Ern on May 1, 2023 9:10:20 GMT 1
What would be the point of sitting back if we are losing against Sheffield? Surely throw the bloody kitchen sink at them to try for the point is a far better tactic. The goal difference is a big factor, you could be right forget tactics and just go for a full throttle attack with Sheff U, if we lose 2 or 3, 0 so be it. And prey to God we beat Reading. Goal difference has zero factor. If we beat or draw against Sheff Utd we stay up. If we lose then our goal difference takes a hit. If we then lose to Reading they stay up. There is no scenario here at all where we can stay up through goal difference, not one. |
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Post by detox on May 1, 2023 9:12:38 GMT 1
Sitting back is not an option..by all accounts that's what Preston did after they'd equalised in the 63rd minute at Bramall Lane, and got thumped .. No we have to play the same way we've been playing.
We're so close now but the job is a tough one still, Sheffield Utd hopefully might play some squad players on Thursday but we have to try and win this from the off and see how it goes..I'm more nervous about this one because we are so close. Reading haven't won a game in ages but they totally bombarded Wigan at the end and created chaos in their box, plus they have Carroll to come back..
I suppose if Boro whopped Rotherham thus afternoon..6-0 or something, then were losing to Wigan 4-0 on the last day.....but that's a bit of a stretch isn't it..
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Post by Big Ern on May 1, 2023 9:13:32 GMT 1
We have to make that stadium absolutely bounce on Thursday night.
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Post by rocky on May 1, 2023 9:19:41 GMT 1
The goal difference is a big factor, you could be right forget tactics and just go for a full throttle attack with Sheff U, if we lose 2 or 3, 0 so be it. And prey to God we beat Reading. Goal difference has zero factor. If we beat or draw against Sheff Utd we stay up. If we lose then our goal difference takes a hit. If we then lose to Reading they stay up. There is no scenario here at all where we can stay up through goal difference, not one. Correct. Been saying that since we beat Cardiff. We would have needed to beat Cardiff by 3 goals for GD to come into it. That would have allowed us to stay up with single goal defeats against Sheff Utd and Reading. |
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Post by irverino on May 1, 2023 9:39:32 GMT 1
No referee appointed for this game on last weeks list, I wonder if Rotherham fan Howard Webb is currently trying to talk one is old pals out of retirement?.......if not he could always turn to Paul Tierney.
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Post by crux on May 1, 2023 10:11:43 GMT 1
No referee appointed for this game on last weeks list, I wonder if Rotherham fan Howard Webb is currently trying to talk one is old pals out of retirement?.......if not he could always turn to Paul Tierney. He's got an appointment at Specsavers this morning after yesterday's performance. I'm guessing he'll be registered as blind by the end of the day 😗😉🤣 |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 1, 2023 10:23:41 GMT 1
Sitting back is not an option..by all accounts that's what Preston did after they'd equalised in the 63rd minute at Bramall Lane, and got thumped .. No we have to play the same way we've been playing. We're so close now but the job is a tough one still, Sheffield Utd hopefully might play some squad players on Thursday but we have to try and win this from the off and see how it goes..I'm more nervous about this one because we are so close. Reading haven't won a game in ages but they totally bombarded Wigan at the end and created chaos in their box, plus they have Carroll to come back.. I suppose if Boro whopped Rotherham thus afternoon..6-0 or something, then were losing to Wigan 4-0 on the last day.....but that's a bit of a stretch isn't it.. Preston got caught on the break at least twice with one player back. They had to win to have any hope of the playoffs??? Its a difficult call for us but sitting off or dropping deep isnt going to give their players a tough game. We will have to test if they want that 50/50 or chase as hard as usual etc.. |
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Post by drewden on May 1, 2023 10:24:41 GMT 1
Goal difference has zero factor. If we beat or draw against Sheff Utd we stay up. If we lose then our goal difference takes a hit. If we then lose to Reading they stay up. There is no scenario here at all where we can stay up through goal difference, not one. Correct. Been saying that since we beat Cardiff. We would have needed to beat Cardiff by 3 goals for GD to come into it. That would have allowed us to stay up with single goal defeats against Sheff Utd and Reading. We are down if Sheff U and Reading beat us 1 - 0. |
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Post by Big Ern on May 1, 2023 10:34:34 GMT 1
Sitting back is not an option..by all accounts that's what Preston did after they'd equalised in the 63rd minute at Bramall Lane, and got thumped .. No we have to play the same way we've been playing. We're so close now but the job is a tough one still, Sheffield Utd hopefully might play some squad players on Thursday but we have to try and win this from the off and see how it goes..I'm more nervous about this one because we are so close. Reading haven't won a game in ages but they totally bombarded Wigan at the end and created chaos in their box, plus they have Carroll to come back.. I suppose if Boro whopped Rotherham thus afternoon..6-0 or something, then were losing to Wigan 4-0 on the last day.....but that's a bit of a stretch isn't it.. We are a point in front of Rotherham so if they lose both remaining games we stay up |
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Post by htfc1908 on May 1, 2023 10:35:05 GMT 1
Correct. Been saying that since we beat Cardiff. We would have needed to beat Cardiff by 3 goals for GD to come into it. That would have allowed us to stay up with single goal defeats against Sheff Utd and Reading. We are down if Sheff U and Reading beat us 1 - 0. Unless Rotherham lose today and next Monday |
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Post by rickrast on May 1, 2023 10:36:31 GMT 1
Billy Sharp is sitting on 249 league goals, and I am told they want to do all they can to help him reach 250. I suspect he wont be on the beach. He might not get much pitch time next season. Need to blunt that Sharp Blade.... |
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Post by detox on May 1, 2023 10:37:24 GMT 1
Correct. Been saying that since we beat Cardiff. We would have needed to beat Cardiff by 3 goals for GD to come into it. That would have allowed us to stay up with single goal defeats against Sheff Utd and Reading. We are down if Sheff U and Reading beat us 1 - 0. Reading haven't won a game since end of February...12 games.... |
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Post by townrwe on May 1, 2023 10:39:17 GMT 1
I think if your promoted your attention naturally turns to next year, those on the retained list will probably already know. Others will be thinking don't get injured now and if I was the manager I'd be giving some of the squad an extra week off to prepare for pre-season.
So I would hope we can get a win or a draw on Thursday.
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Post by Tinpot on May 1, 2023 10:58:08 GMT 1
What would be the point of sitting back if we are losing against Sheffield? Surely throw the bloody kitchen sink at them to try for the point is a far better tactic. The goal difference is a big factor. It really isn't. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2023 10:58:41 GMT 1
Think Warnock will go cautious and go defensively and limit Sheff U, my guess would be a Sheff U 1 - 0 win or a 0 - 0 draw, a lot of dilemas in this match, if we are losing with 15 mins to go do we try and snatch an equaliser or sit back and prey they do not get another. If we do lose by 1- 0, then the scenario will be repeated in the Reading game. What would be the point of sitting back if we are losing against Sheffield? Surely throw the bloody kitchen sink at them to try for the point is a far better tactic. Hopefully we're all agreed if we lose to Sheffield the score is irrelevant.I did say hopefully |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 1, 2023 11:03:45 GMT 1
Think Warnock will go cautious and go defensively and limit Sheff U, my guess would be a Sheff U 1 - 0 win or a 0 - 0 draw, a lot of dilemas in this match, if we are losing with 15 mins to go do we try and snatch an equaliser or sit back and prey they do not get another. If we do lose by 1- 0, then the scenario will be repeated in the Reading game. If this scenario plays out there will be an absolute riot in the stands at the Reading game. |
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Post by rocky on May 1, 2023 11:06:05 GMT 1
Correct. Been saying that since we beat Cardiff. We would have needed to beat Cardiff by 3 goals for GD to come into it. That would have allowed us to stay up with single goal defeats against Sheff Utd and Reading. We are down if Sheff U and Reading beat us 1 - 0. Yes I know, as I inferred above. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 1, 2023 11:07:58 GMT 1
Correct. Been saying that since we beat Cardiff. We would have needed to beat Cardiff by 3 goals for GD to come into it. That would have allowed us to stay up with single goal defeats against Sheff Utd and Reading. We are down if Sheff U and Reading beat us 1 - 0. What if Rotherham lose both? |
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Post by rocky on May 1, 2023 11:10:40 GMT 1
The goal difference is a big factor. It really isn't. Yes, it’s not a factor at all. From this point on, it’s irrelevant. If it’s a deciding factor this season then we’re fucked (unless Rotherham lose 2) and no score lines in the remaining games can change that. |
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