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Post by arroloui on Jul 7, 2023 14:59:34 GMT 1
Could only happen at town
Billionaire owners
But not got a tenner to spend 😕
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Post by royrace on Jul 7, 2023 16:18:39 GMT 1
im not sure id believe that even if he did say it. would just be a repeat of last season. even with ffp sure we can spend some money It depends on what budget DH set with the EFL. We can't exceed it. Why is that? Seems daft bearing in mind the takeover and all of the hoops that needed jumping through, why would the previous owners business plan/budget have to stand?? It's a completely new regime with all that entails. I'm not doubting you're right; I just don't why its the case? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 7, 2023 16:21:04 GMT 1
It depends on what budget DH set with the EFL. We can't exceed it. Why is that? Seems daft bearing in mind the takeover and all of the hoops that needed jumping through, why would the previous owners business plan/budget have to stand?? It's a completely new regime with all that entails. I'm not doubting you're right; I just don't why its the case? Business plan needed to be submitted by March apparently? |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 7, 2023 19:09:13 GMT 1
Why is that? Seems daft bearing in mind the takeover and all of the hoops that needed jumping through, why would the previous owners business plan/budget have to stand?? It's a completely new regime with all that entails. I'm not doubting you're right; I just don't why its the case? Business plan needed to be submitted by March apparently? I am not an expert on this but I can't see how the old companies plan has any sway on how the new companies has to operate. This just would not happen in any other business, absolute madness if this is what the FL runs the game. It is no wonder that we ended up with the Premier League if this is how the idiots run football. I suppose you have only to look at how they have implemented VAR to know that they are all looser's. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 7, 2023 20:06:36 GMT 1
He was on Talksport this morning. Do you have a link? |
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Post by calken on Jul 7, 2023 22:12:29 GMT 1
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Post by callum9061 on Sept 5, 2023 13:15:11 GMT 1
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Sept 5, 2023 14:05:43 GMT 1
It's interesting that there are more "high profile" free agents at this stage of the season than I can remember in a long time. All waiting for Saudi money?
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Post by dm on Sept 5, 2023 14:29:03 GMT 1
I'd take Phil Jones, if he'd come here and we could afford his wages. The chances of it happening would be next to 0 though.
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Post by calken on Sept 5, 2023 14:32:19 GMT 1
That's some list of players.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Sept 5, 2023 14:36:48 GMT 1
I'd take Phil Jones, if he'd come here and we could afford his wages. The chances of it happening would be next to 0 though. Off back to United to manage the U18’s |
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Post by robinvar on Sept 5, 2023 22:19:24 GMT 1
Jessy Pi may be a defensive midfielder but apparently his xg last year was 3.14159. May be worth looking at. |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 5, 2023 22:35:47 GMT 1
That's some list of players. Get Kamberi back |
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 5, 2023 23:07:58 GMT 1
I filtered on Centre Forwards with descending order of Transfer Value.
I ceased scrolling when I got to Elvis Manu. 🤪
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Post by tockyterrier on Sept 6, 2023 7:30:25 GMT 1
Business plan needed to be submitted by March apparently? I am not an expert on this but I can't see how the old companies plan has any sway on how the new companies has to operate. This just would not happen in any other business, absolute madness if this is what the FL runs the game. It is no wonder that we ended up with the Premier League if this is how the idiots run football. I suppose you have only to look at how they have implemented VAR to know that they are all looser's. And NO other business would be running at a loss for year after year with the shareholders desperate to increase the debt further. |
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Post by ram on Sept 6, 2023 10:00:15 GMT 1
Eden Hazard £8 million..Wow!
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 6, 2023 10:44:36 GMT 1
I filtered on Centre Forwards with descending order of Transfer Value. I ceased scrolling when I got to Elvis Manu. 🤪 Was he Big Dave Wagners first signing? |
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Post by digs on Sept 6, 2023 12:35:17 GMT 1
That Radja Nainggolan on the free agents list,could probably land a part in a Narcos tv series
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 6, 2023 12:47:41 GMT 1
I filtered on Centre Forwards with descending order of Transfer Value. I ceased scrolling when I got to Elvis Manu. 🤪 Was he Big Dave Wagners first signing? Think that was chilwell on loan |
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Post by 4 pts on Sept 6, 2023 13:54:13 GMT 1
Eden Hazard £8 million..Wow! Fatter and more unfit than me and thats saying something  |
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Post by goodbet on Sept 6, 2023 14:56:11 GMT 1
I am not an expert on this but I can't see how the old companies plan has any sway on how the new companies has to operate. This just would not happen in any other business, absolute madness if this is what the FL runs the game. It is no wonder that we ended up with the Premier League if this is how the idiots run football. I suppose you have only to look at how they have implemented VAR to know that they are all looser's. And NO other business would be running at a loss for year after year with the shareholders desperate to increase the debt further. Some have. The likes of Amazon on some of the other early starters ran at a loss for some time before they saw a profit. I accept that it is not the general way to run a business, but football and the Championship in particular it seems to be the norm. Some with a much bigger turnover than we have could just possibly run at break-even but with our level of income I am not sure that we could run without a loss in league one. |
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Post by mosher on Sept 6, 2023 15:09:31 GMT 1
And NO other business would be running at a loss for year after year with the shareholders desperate to increase the debt further. Some have. The likes of Amazon on some of the other early starters ran at a loss for some time before they saw a profit.I accept that it is not the general way to run a business, but football and the Championship in particular it seems to be the norm. Some with a much bigger turnover than we have could just possibly run at break-even but with our level of income I am not sure that we could run without a loss in league one. This. Quite a lot of businesses start off running at a loss, mostly not a huge loss but small losses to generate a customer base. I was told this when I applied to get a grant/loan/startup from something run (figureheaded?) by Prince Charles (as he was then) back in the 90s. Wanted to open a computer shop (software AND hardware) in Batley, where there was nothing at all computer-based. I had a business plan costed and checked by an accountant and a bank manager. The charity/grant/trust advisor told me I should forecast a loss for the first few years rather than the (small) profit I had envisaged/worked out. Didn't get the grant and about 6 months later some other twat used my idea  |
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Post by royrace on Sept 6, 2023 15:26:48 GMT 1
And NO other business would be running at a loss for year after year with the shareholders desperate to increase the debt further. Some have. The likes of Amazon on some of the other early starters ran at a loss for some time before they saw a profit. I accept that it is not the general way to run a business, but football and the Championship in particular it seems to be the norm. Some with a much bigger turnover than we have could just possibly run at break-even but with our level of income I am not sure that we could run without a loss in league one. Based on where we were when Dean took over, unless things have changed massively, I suspect we could operate somewhere between mid table L1 and mid table L2 without making a significant loss, that's if the club was very well managed and coached and assuming crowds didn't drop off too much. Ridiculous really but that's the way the game has gone sadly. Thats what worries me whenever KN hints at the fact he wants the club to be sustainable, only way that happens is in L1 or more likely L2. |
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 6, 2023 19:40:25 GMT 1
Some have. The likes of Amazon on some of the other early starters ran at a loss for some time before they saw a profit. I accept that it is not the general way to run a business, but football and the Championship in particular it seems to be the norm. Some with a much bigger turnover than we have could just possibly run at break-even but with our level of income I am not sure that we could run without a loss in league one. Based on where we were when Dean took over, unless things have changed massively, I suspect we could operate somewhere between mid table L1 and mid table L2 without making a significant loss, that's if the club was very well managed and coached and assuming crowds didn't drop off too much. Ridiculous really but that's the way the game has gone sadly. Thats what worries me whenever KN hints at the fact he wants the club to be sustainable, only way that happens is in L1 or more likely L2. Or if we increase revenue streams |
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Post by tockyterrier on Sept 6, 2023 23:17:08 GMT 1
Based on where we were when Dean took over, unless things have changed massively, I suspect we could operate somewhere between mid table L1 and mid table L2 without making a significant loss, that's if the club was very well managed and coached and assuming crowds didn't drop off too much. Ridiculous really but that's the way the game has gone sadly. Thats what worries me whenever KN hints at the fact he wants the club to be sustainable, only way that happens is in L1 or more likely L2. Or if we increase revenue streams the business plan seems to be to increase revenue streams by looking at development of young players to save spend and generate income. But then the shareholders are always complaining we sell.our best players, without replacing them ( ie rely on youth remember all the angst when we realised OBrien was the replacement? ) |
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Post by willo on Sept 7, 2023 1:09:31 GMT 1
Some have. The likes of Amazon on some of the other early starters ran at a loss for some time before they saw a profit. I accept that it is not the general way to run a business, but football and the Championship in particular it seems to be the norm. Some with a much bigger turnover than we have could just possibly run at break-even but with our level of income I am not sure that we could run without a loss in league one. Based on where we were when Dean took over, unless things have changed massively, I suspect we could operate somewhere between mid table L1 and mid table L2 without making a significant loss, that's if the club was very well managed and coached and assuming crowds didn't drop off too much. Ridiculous really but that's the way the game has gone sadly. Thats what worries me whenever KN hints at the fact he wants the club to be sustainable, only way that happens is in L1 or more likely L2. L1 or 2. Jeez, how many will stick around for that? Hope that’s not the sum total of Kev’s ambition! |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 10:31:33 GMT 1
Some have. The likes of Amazon on some of the other early starters ran at a loss for some time before they saw a profit.I accept that it is not the general way to run a business, but football and the Championship in particular it seems to be the norm. Some with a much bigger turnover than we have could just possibly run at break-even but with our level of income I am not sure that we could run without a loss in league one. This. Quite a lot of businesses start off running at a loss, mostly not a huge loss but small losses to generate a customer base. I was told this when I applied to get a grant/loan/startup from something run (figureheaded?) by Prince Charles (as he was then) back in the 90s. Wanted to open a computer shop (software AND hardware) in Batley, where there was nothing at all computer-based. I had a business plan costed and checked by an accountant and a bank manager. The charity/grant/trust advisor told me I should forecast a loss for the first few years rather than the (small) profit I had envisaged/worked out. Didn't get the grant and about 6 months later some other twat used my idea Wasn't Terry Fisher was it 🤔 😉 |
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Post by htafcjack on Sept 9, 2023 13:17:19 GMT 1
I filtered on Centre Forwards with descending order of Transfer Value. I ceased scrolling when I got to Elvis Manu. 🤪 Was he Big Dave Wagners first signing? Just googled him thought it was a joke about something, I genuinely have no recollection of him being at town, never heard of him!🤣 |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 9, 2023 13:19:36 GMT 1
Was he Big Dave Wagners first signing? Just googled him thought it was a joke about something, I genuinely have no recollection of him being at town, never heard of him!🤣 Managing Norwich now, doing quite well I hear.  |
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Post by Floyds on Sept 9, 2023 15:05:29 GMT 1
I am not an expert on this but I can't see how the old companies plan has any sway on how the new companies has to operate. This just would not happen in any other business, absolute madness if this is what the FL runs the game. It is no wonder that we ended up with the Premier League if this is how the idiots run football. I suppose you have only to look at how they have implemented VAR to know that they are all looser's. And NO other business would be running at a loss for year after year with the shareholders desperate to increase the debt further. Ocado plc are another example of a business that for years after being founded hadn't made a single annual profit. Investors kept faith though because of the investment in technology that would drive future growth. They are now in the FTSE100 (although still don't turn much of a profit!). It's a stretch to liken Town to technology companies like Ocado/Amazon though. |
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