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Post by Porrohman on Jul 14, 2023 6:09:10 GMT 1
It's starting to get a bit silly now in Saudi,
Al Ahli are preparing a £30m bid to prise Algeria winger Riyad Mahrez, 32, from Manchester City. (Athletic - subscription required)
City boss Pep Guardiola is set to hold talks with Mahrez amid the interest from Saudi Arabia. (Mirror)
Saudi Arabian club Al-Ittihad are set to make a £40m offer for Liverpool's 29-year-old Brazil midfielder Fabinho. (Athletic - subscription required)
Liverpool and England midfielder Jordan Henderson, 33, has accepted a lucrative deal from Steven Gerrard's Al-Ettifaq. (Guardian)
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Post by cowshed1992 on Jul 14, 2023 6:12:44 GMT 1
It's starting to get a bit silly now in Saudi, Al Ahli are preparing a £30m bid to prise Algeria winger Riyad Mahrez, 32, from Manchester City. (Athletic - subscription required) City boss Pep Guardiola is set to hold talks with Mahrez amid the interest from Saudi Arabia. (Mirror) Saudi Arabian club Al-Ittihad are set to make a £40m offer for Liverpool's 29-year-old Brazil midfielder Fabinho. (Athletic - subscription required) Liverpool and England midfielder Jordan Henderson, 33, has accepted a lucrative deal from Steven Gerrard's Al-Ettifaq. (Guardian) It just shows how morally bankrupt a lot of these players and coaches are. Money first every time. This league seeks to legitimise a regime that has absolutely no regard for human rights. |
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Post by mids on Jul 14, 2023 7:02:43 GMT 1
A lot of people would put their morals aside if they were tripling their wages, and especially towards the end of their career.
Henderson is on £200k week at Liverpool.....£10m a year......Saudi team are offering him £600k per week......£30m a year
Two or three years of that can make a big difference to a lad from the North East
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Post by Melc on Jul 14, 2023 7:13:55 GMT 1
It's starting to get a bit silly now in Saudi, Al Ahli are preparing a £30m bid to prise Algeria winger Riyad Mahrez, 32, from Manchester City. (Athletic - subscription required) City boss Pep Guardiola is set to hold talks with Mahrez amid the interest from Saudi Arabia. (Mirror) Saudi Arabian club Al-Ittihad are set to make a £40m offer for Liverpool's 29-year-old Brazil midfielder Fabinho. (Athletic - subscription required) Liverpool and England midfielder Jordan Henderson, 33, has accepted a lucrative deal from Steven Gerrard's Al-Ettifaq. (Guardian) It just shows how morally bankrupt a lot of these players and coaches are. Money first every time. This league seeks to legitimise a regime that has absolutely no regard for human rights. Money first every time you say, quite ironic that you moan about our new owner not spending money on players don’t you think! |
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Post by cowshed1992 on Jul 14, 2023 7:44:47 GMT 1
It just shows how morally bankrupt a lot of these players and coaches are. Money first every time. This league seeks to legitimise a regime that has absolutely no regard for human rights. Money first every time you say, quite ironic that you moan about our new owner not spending money on players don’t you think! You clearly have no understanding of irony or my original comment. I’m talking about taking money from a regime with an appalling human rights record. What does that have to do with my views on Town’s transfer budget? |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 14, 2023 7:57:55 GMT 1
A lot of people would put their morals aside if they were tripling their wages, and especially towards the end of their career. Henderson is on £200k week at Liverpool.....£10m a year......Saudi team are offering him £600k per week......£30m a year Two or three years of that can make a big difference to a lad from the North East he's at the tail end of his career and has been playing at Premier League level throughout it, including captaining one of the top sides for a prolonged period. He's fine for money already, and his kids and grandkids will be too. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jul 14, 2023 8:26:17 GMT 1
A lot of people would put their morals aside if they were tripling their wages, and especially towards the end of their career. Henderson is on £200k week at Liverpool.....£10m a year......Saudi team are offering him £600k per week......£30m a year Two or three years of that can make a big difference to a lad from the North East he's at the tail end of his career and has been playing at Premier League level throughout it, including captaining one of the top sides for a prolonged period. He's fine for money already, and his kids and grandkids will be too. He also has school age children so is either going to uproot them and move to Saudi or not see them for a prolonged period of time. Neither of which I would personally choose to do for the extra money. |
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Post by mosher on Jul 14, 2023 8:36:47 GMT 1
1996 UEFA Under 21 squad: France Head coach: Raymond Domenech 1 GK Lionel Letizi 2 DF Martin Djetou 3 DF Jérôme Bonnissel 4 DF Florent Laville 5 DF Patrick Moreau 6 MF Patrick Vieira 7 MF Claude Makélélé 8 MF Vikash Dhorasoo 9 FW Florian Maurice 10 MF Charles-Edouard Coridon 11 MF Robert Pires 12 DF Yannick Rott 13 MF Vincent Candela 14 MF Olivier Dacourt 15 FW Tony Vairelles 16 GK Vincent Fernandez 17 FW Pierre-Yves André 18 FW Sylvain Wiltord A few of those were pretty class, but plenty disappeared. France are just the same as any nation; plenty make it, plenty more don't. Not a dig, just read your post and wondered if it was true. This was the first squad I looked at. Just out of interest, what are you basing the 'plenty of them disappeared' on? Quite a lot of household names on that list and then some who had very good careers in France without . Even the least well-known still played 200+ games in professional football, so they largely all had decent careers at the very least. Maybe disappeared was the wrong description, maybe I should have put didn't go on to have stellar careers instead. Like I said though I wasn't arguing with Eightball I was just curious if they had the same type of fall-away from youth players that England seem to. For a better comparison though I maybe should have put under-20s as we were on about young Etienne, but I just put up the first youth squad Google showed me  There may even be a bigger fall-off from that age group, just wonder if it's comparable to England's youth players? |
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Post by mids on Jul 14, 2023 8:56:18 GMT 1
A lot of people would put their morals aside if they were tripling their wages, and especially towards the end of their career. Henderson is on £200k week at Liverpool.....£10m a year......Saudi team are offering him £600k per week......£30m a year Two or three years of that can make a big difference to a lad from the North East he's at the tail end of his career and has been playing at Premier League level throughout it, including captaining one of the top sides for a prolonged period. He's fine for money already, and his kids and grandkids will be too. I absolutely agree, and it's easy for us to say and keep the moral high ground. But an extra £40m over two years for doing essentially the same job in a warmer climate has its benefits - no matter how big his bank account already is. If someone offered me an extra £200k (and probably much less) over two years for doing the same job I'd happily forget my morals for a bit. That might be wrong, but shoot me - ironically Saudis probably would - but I'd take the risk - and it's an even bigger differential for all these footballers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 9:07:31 GMT 1
He wasn’t trying to make a comparison, just having a dig at two players for no reason other than he likes to do that. He switched to High, who he called ‘garbage’, just to keep the run going. He either likes slagging players off or he is looking for an argument. I just find it unpleasant and unnecessary, which is why I challenged it. Thought this was a football forum to express an opinion? “ Unpleasant” get a bloody grip! How was I “having a dig”? I’m not bothered that they’re leaving as I don’t think they’ll be missed, and I think High is bang average at best! Is this ok? Or are you upset with these words as well? Anyone who calls one of our young footballers "garbage" because they haven't met their expectations deserves that epithet. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 9:10:32 GMT 1
So that's Holmes, Boyle, Camara looks on the way, probably Rhodes and possibly High. So maybe 5 out. Money definitely for Camara, not sure about the others. It was always going to be some out before any came in, and maybe the money from Camara will be the catalyst for spending. I would think at least one experienced striker, a right back and midfielder, hopefully a playmaker. Lets hope it happens fairly quickly to allow them to bed in a bit before the season kicks off, which is just over 3 weeks away. I assume Warnock has his targets and it just needs the books to balance enough, hopefully. Can't see us spending any transfer money. Will be 5 loans I reckon.. we won't want to commit to warnocks style for more than 12 months. Nagle moved proverbial mountains to convince Warnock to come back so I don't think he will be worrying about commiting to Warnock's style. Also, if he is as shrewd as I think he is, he will under promise and over deliver. Expectation management, especially when new in, is a very sensible approach. |
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Post by Tiro on Jul 14, 2023 9:22:40 GMT 1
A lot of people would put their morals aside if they were tripling their wages, and especially towards the end of their career. Henderson is on £200k week at Liverpool.....£10m a year......Saudi team are offering him £600k per week......£30m a year Two or three years of that can make a big difference to a lad from the North East You’re right. £200k a week is a paupers life. And a captain of both Liverpool and England has no future post playing. What is he planning to do with his extra .5 million per week, buy the North-East? I wonder if he’ll delete all his philanthropic tweets about his support for LGBT+ and the Lionesses now? |
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Post by Floyds on Jul 14, 2023 9:37:35 GMT 1
I hope we are able to sign a couple of "first team ready" players this summer - if we go into the season with Ward and Rhodes as our only striker options AGAIN it will be a shocker.
As with most - a striker, a midfielder who can pass the ball, a winger and a right back would be on my list. Probably in that order.
Let's hope we are getting on with it quietly in the background...
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 14, 2023 9:42:14 GMT 1
If anyone needed any further evidence that the world has gone mad, someone paying Jordan Henderson 600k per week to play football must surely tip it.
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Post by nicovaesen on Jul 14, 2023 9:57:29 GMT 1
It's starting to get a bit silly now in Saudi, Al Ahli are preparing a £30m bid to prise Algeria winger Riyad Mahrez, 32, from Manchester City. (Athletic - subscription required) City boss Pep Guardiola is set to hold talks with Mahrez amid the interest from Saudi Arabia. (Mirror) Saudi Arabian club Al-Ittihad are set to make a £40m offer for Liverpool's 29-year-old Brazil midfielder Fabinho. (Athletic - subscription required) Liverpool and England midfielder Jordan Henderson, 33, has accepted a lucrative deal from Steven Gerrard's Al-Ettifaq. (Guardian) It just shows how morally bankrupt a lot of these players and coaches are. Money first every time. This league seeks to legitimise a regime that has absolutely no regard for human rights. But but you saw me put a rainbow flag and pronouns on my socials so I care!!!! |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jul 14, 2023 9:58:01 GMT 1
Danny Grant gone to Bohemians?
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 14, 2023 10:11:04 GMT 1
We're looking a bit weak. Any news of incomings?
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Post by ringdisco on Jul 14, 2023 10:13:00 GMT 1
I'm sorry but that's absolute cobblers. Yes he's done very little, because he's only just broken into the team. His ability to create a pause with little shimmies, and use his body to protect the ball, before laying it off are very good for his age. In the championship, a very physical and tough league. He played plenty of forward passes and has the ability to control the pace of a game, which is a rare quality. France has been the most successful country in the world for the last 25 years and produced some incredible players. You don't get any old mug turning out for their youth team. He has the potential to have a very good career and be sold for some quite big money - hopefully we have a good sell on fee. 1996 UEFA Under 21 squad: France Head coach: Raymond Domenech 1 GK Lionel Letizi 2 DF Martin Djetou 3 DF Jérôme Bonnissel 4 DF Florent Laville 5 DF Patrick Moreau 6 MF Patrick Vieira 7 MF Claude Makélélé 8 MF Vikash Dhorasoo 9 FW Florian Maurice 10 MF Charles-Edouard Coridon 11 MF Robert Pires 12 DF Yannick Rott 13 MF Vincent Candela 14 MF Olivier Dacourt 15 FW Tony Vairelles 16 GK Vincent Fernandez 17 FW Pierre-Yves André 18 FW Sylvain Wiltord A few of those were pretty class, but plenty disappeared. France are just the same as any nation; plenty make it, plenty more don't. Not a dig, just read your post and wondered if it was true. This was the first squad I looked at. Not for nothing, that is an astounding u21 side, they had to win trophies? I'd say only Rott and Coridon are unknowns for me as a teen in the 90s well into Football Manager (and Eurogoals). Maurice a personal favourite, now an excellent sporting director. Letizi, Vieira, Makelele, Dhorasoo, Maurice, Pires, Candela, Andrè, Dacourt and Wiltord all great players. Tony Vairelles also an underrated fella. |
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Post by terriers2000 on Jul 14, 2023 10:13:33 GMT 1
We're looking a bit weak. Any news of incomings? Probably have to wait until rhodes and camara leave to get some money |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jul 14, 2023 10:14:22 GMT 1
We're looking a bit weak. Any news of incomings? We're absolutely fine. None of the outgoings particularly weaken us. The positions we need to strengthen have not changed. Striker, creative midfielder. |
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Post by mosher on Jul 14, 2023 10:17:20 GMT 1
1996 UEFA Under 21 squad: France Head coach: Raymond Domenech 1 GK Lionel Letizi 2 DF Martin Djetou 3 DF Jérôme Bonnissel 4 DF Florent Laville 5 DF Patrick Moreau 6 MF Patrick Vieira 7 MF Claude Makélélé 8 MF Vikash Dhorasoo 9 FW Florian Maurice 10 MF Charles-Edouard Coridon 11 MF Robert Pires 12 DF Yannick Rott 13 MF Vincent Candela 14 MF Olivier Dacourt 15 FW Tony Vairelles 16 GK Vincent Fernandez 17 FW Pierre-Yves André 18 FW Sylvain Wiltord A few of those were pretty class, but plenty disappeared. France are just the same as any nation; plenty make it, plenty more don't. Not a dig, just read your post and wondered if it was true. This was the first squad I looked at. Not for nothing, that is an astounding u21 side, they had to win trophies? I'd say only Rott and Coridon are unknowns for me as a teen in the 90s well into Football Manager (and Eurogoals). Maurice a personal favourite, now an excellent sporting director. Letizi, Vieira, Makelele, Dhorasoo, Maurice, Pires, Candela, Andrè, Dacourt and Wiltord all great players. Tony Vairelles also an underrated fella. Yeah, explained in a reply to another poster re my wording. Heard of the majority myself (FM player from when it was called Championship Manager ) but meant not a stellar career rather than disappearing. And also should have gone for an under-20s squad to be more relevant to Etienne. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 14, 2023 10:20:28 GMT 1
We're looking a bit weak. Any news of incomings? We're absolutely fine. None of the outgoings particularly weaken us. The positions we need to strengthen have not changed. Striker, creative midfielder. The pair played a total of 25 mins under Warnock and we finished the season with 1 defeat in the final 10 games. Doubt Warnock will be losing much sleep. On the flip side, he'll have a fit and firing Nicholls. Turton, Sorba and Yuta will be like new signings for him aswell. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 14, 2023 10:25:08 GMT 1
We're looking a bit weak. Any news of incomings? We're absolutely fine. None of the outgoings particularly weaken us. The positions we need to strengthen have not changed. Striker, creative midfielder. We're not fine. Warnock getting some results in a mini season where he could park the bus and make it an us against the world type scenario does not mean it will transfer over to a full season. Warnock has already said he wants us to be more on the front foot, as it stands we definitely do not have the players capable of doing that |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jul 14, 2023 10:26:43 GMT 1
We're absolutely fine. None of the outgoings particularly weaken us. The positions we need to strengthen have not changed. Striker, creative midfielder. We're not fine. Warnock getting some results in a mini season where he could park the bus and make it an us against the world type scenario does not mean it will transfer over to a full season. Warnock has already said he wants us to be more on the front foot, as it stands we definitely do not have the players capable of doing that If you think we'll finish the transfer window with the squad "as it stands" you must be on glue. |
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Post by hartyhtfc on Jul 14, 2023 10:42:12 GMT 1
Danny Grant gone to Bohemians? Looks that way. Was released by us, such a shame it never worked out for him |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 14, 2023 10:45:04 GMT 1
We're looking a bit weak. Any news of incomings? We're absolutely fine. None of the outgoings particularly weaken us. The positions we need to strengthen have not changed. Striker, creative midfielder. right back? We could probably get by with Pearson and REG but we can't be having Spencer as the only fit player where it's his main position. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 14, 2023 10:59:06 GMT 1
We're not fine. Warnock getting some results in a mini season where he could park the bus and make it an us against the world type scenario does not mean it will transfer over to a full season. Warnock has already said he wants us to be more on the front foot, as it stands we definitely do not have the players capable of doing that If you think we'll finish the transfer window with the squad "as it stands" you must be on glue. Until we see who those players are you can't claim we're fine. As it stands we definitely aren't |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 14, 2023 11:08:59 GMT 1
he's at the tail end of his career and has been playing at Premier League level throughout it, including captaining one of the top sides for a prolonged period. He's fine for money already, and his kids and grandkids will be too. I absolutely agree, and it's easy for us to say and keep the moral high ground. But an extra £40m over two years for doing essentially the same job in a warmer climate has its benefits - no matter how big his bank account already is. If someone offered me an extra £200k (and probably much less) over two years for doing the same job I'd happily forget my morals for a bit. That might be wrong, but shoot me - ironically Saudis probably would - but I'd take the risk - and it's an even bigger differential for all these footballers. I wouldn't personally. You've got to question where that money's coming from and why they want to pay you more in that situation. You're not just getting paid to be a footballer there, it's a symbolic thing. It's interesting where that line is though. Are there any countries where you wouldn't work for that much money? |
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Post by terriers2000 on Jul 14, 2023 11:16:32 GMT 1
what we need;
Right Back - hopefully someone like Sam Byram
Creative Midfidler / no10 if rudoni gets injured - Prem loan that has the quality (like mooy, ESR)
Striker- hopefully a striker that we pay money for (decent money) not someone who is 32+ like billy sharp etc
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 14, 2023 11:35:48 GMT 1
Looks like Everton have posted, then deleted, a video showing they've signed Johnny Evans. Can't understand why they'd choose him over Coady, plus he's injury prone too.
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