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Post by cowshed1992 on Jul 19, 2023 15:44:09 GMT 1
Why weren’t we all over this? That's largely disappointing. I'm curious, was NW & Co interested in acquiring Hungbo? If not, why not? He proven his quality with us. What a great signing this lad would have been. Good ability, great attitude, has a goal in him. Did we even try? |
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Post by mosher on Jul 19, 2023 15:47:35 GMT 1
hope this is not us looking for a Nicholls replacement. That would top off a pretty shit transfer window if we lost our best player Bilo needs to get out and play games - sitting on the bench all season isn't going to do much for his development. Bringing in some experienced backup would be a sensible move. Maxwell narrowly missed out on being part of the "Wagner Revolution": downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/100434/chris-maxwellHe's not got a very Russian name and their Revolution didn't last particularly long  |
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 19, 2023 15:53:37 GMT 1
That's largely disappointing. I'm curious, was NW & Co interested in acquiring Hungbo? If not, why not? He proven his quality with us. What a great signing this lad would have been. Good ability, great attitude, has a goal in him. Did we even try? If we have zero funds we can't have been in for him. I imagine he went for a fee. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 19, 2023 16:05:24 GMT 1
What a great signing this lad would have been. Good ability, great attitude, has a goal in him. Did we even try? If we have zero funds we can't have been in for him. I imagine he went for a fee. Or perhaps the team weighed options up and felt he'd not get much of a start if Sorba is fit. |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Jul 19, 2023 16:14:42 GMT 1
If we have zero funds we can't have been in for him. I imagine he went for a fee. Or perhaps the team weighed options up and felt he'd not get much of a start if Sorba is fit. FC Nurnberg are captained by Chris Schindler too... I'd be curious to know what the fee would be, but German transfer policy (with the business model) in budesliga 2, they also finished 14th last year, I cant imagine the fee would have been anything north or $1.5m. I think we'd get that back on resale value alone. I'd like to have thought we had inquired about him at the very least. |
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Post by k1man999 on Jul 19, 2023 16:15:29 GMT 1
If we have zero funds we can't have been in for him. I imagine he went for a fee. Or perhaps the team weighed options up and felt he'd not get much of a start if Sorba is fit. I'd say from what I saw of him he offered more than sorba in general play. But have to trust Warnock |
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 19, 2023 16:15:57 GMT 1
If we have zero funds we can't have been in for him. I imagine he went for a fee. Or perhaps the team weighed options up and felt he'd not get much of a start if Sorba is fit. He’s a class above Sorba. |
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Post by royrace on Jul 19, 2023 16:15:59 GMT 1
Based on what I saw last season Brooky would be more effective from the bench than Mahoney. Rowe wouldnt be missed either but Rhodes certainly would IMO if we don't sign another striker. There seems to be something afoot there with the latest news story about him being back in favour. Maybe we're pushing for a better offer on him. We won't get an offer for him and he won't become back in favour . It will all be about the deal that's offered to him and whether he can get as much at his next club as at ours. Maybe we will have to pay something towards it. But no one will be paying money to us By offer I meant how much Derby were prepared to contribute towards his wages, I suspect that's a stumbling block but I'm guessing. I agree nobody will be paying money for him or paying him as much as he's on for the last year of his contract. It will be some sort of contribution or loan fee unless a team is prepared to offer him a 2+ year deal on decent money which seems highly unlikely. He is decent backup for Ward if all else fails and maybe NW can play to his strengths on occasion, seems he would rather move him on and use his wage but that might not be possible by the sounds of it. In that case he is still an asset unlike the other two the OP mentioned. |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Jul 19, 2023 16:19:35 GMT 1
Or perhaps the team weighed options up and felt he'd not get much of a start if Sorba is fit. FC Nurnberg are captained by Chris Schindler too... I'd be curious to know what the fee would be, but German transfer policy (with the business model) in budesliga 2, they also finished 14th last year, I cant imagine the fee would have been anything north or $1.5m. I think we'd get that back on resale value alone. I'd like to have thought we had inquired about him at the very least. I don’t get the love in with Hungbo as a lot of our fans. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he’s a bad player, just don’t see him as good as a lot. I think he’d have been a good signing as a back up to Sorba and Koroma. However, the player may not have wanted that as he hasn’t been getting in at Watford so will want to go and play somewhere. He didn’t play consistently here last season so nothing for him to think he’d be a starter etc. If the fee is around £1.5m (as per your guess) it’s a lot to pay for a squad player especially when we need to spend on first teamers. |
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Post by royrace on Jul 19, 2023 16:19:52 GMT 1
Or perhaps the team weighed options up and felt he'd not get much of a start if Sorba is fit. He’s a class above Sorba. Debatable. I don't think NW fully trusted him did he, I was a big fan and he did brilliant for us but NW clearly didn't trust him fully. |
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Post by midlander on Jul 19, 2023 16:19:54 GMT 1
I liked what I saw of Hungbo, but did NW fully trust him? Often started on bench for us and with Sorba back and Pat Jones hopefully fit, plus the development of Diarra, where does Hungbo fit? Wage budget is tight so I can understand why we weren't all over this. Reckon Warnock is optimistic with what he can get out of Sorba. Hungbo would most likely have been a bench option for us, albeit a good one. But, we need to prioritise CF, CM and aren't in a position to do much else at the minute.
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Post by dbterrier32 on Jul 19, 2023 16:21:57 GMT 1
Or perhaps the team weighed options up and felt he'd not get much of a start if Sorba is fit. He’s a class above Sorba. No he’s not. Sorba is one of the best wingers in this division when he is firing on all cylinders. We’re just remembering the poor attitude Sorba that was here before he went to Blackburn. I think Warnock will get him knuckling down and finding that love for football again. |
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 19, 2023 16:25:40 GMT 1
He’s a class above Sorba. No he’s not. Sorba is one of the best wingers in this division when he is firing on all cylinders. We’re just remembering the poor attitude Sorba that was here before he went to Blackburn. I think Warnock will get him knuckling down and finding that love for football again. Hungbo can control a ball, beat players and score goals. Sorba takes a decent set piece. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 19, 2023 16:38:22 GMT 1
FC Nurnberg are captained by Chris Schindler too... I'd be curious to know what the fee would be, but German transfer policy (with the business model) in budesliga 2, they also finished 14th last year, I cant imagine the fee would have been anything north or $1.5m. I think we'd get that back on resale value alone. I'd like to have thought we had inquired about him at the very least. I don’t get the love in with Hungbo as a lot of our fans. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he’s a bad player, just don’t see him as good as a lot. I think he’d have been a good signing as a back up to Sorba and Koroma. However, the player may not have wanted that as he hasn’t been getting in at Watford so will want to go and play somewhere. He didn’t play consistently here last season so nothing for him to think he’d be a starter etc. If the fee is around £1.5m (as per your guess) it’s a lot to pay for a squad player especially when we need to spend on first teamers. Hungbo knew how to score a goal, Sorba does not. Goals are severely lacking in our current squad. |
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Post by Kenny irons on Jul 19, 2023 16:43:41 GMT 1
Bilo on his way out on loan, possibly Chapman too.
Maxwell in as understudy to Nicholls if he accepts the role. Bellagambi 3rd choice
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Post by paulmat on Jul 19, 2023 16:44:58 GMT 1
In the brilliant run we had from Millwall away to Sheffield United at home, which ultimately kept us up, Hungbo started one game and made one telling contribution (his goal against Cardiff). Not that surprising if Warnock wasn't interested.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 19, 2023 16:54:08 GMT 1
Or perhaps the team weighed options up and felt he'd not get much of a start if Sorba is fit. He’s a class above Sorba. Stats suggest different. Hungbo: 26 games in the championship. 3 goals, 1 assist. Thomas: 100 games in the championship. 3 goals, 20 assists. So in just under 4 times as many championship games, Sorba has been directly involved in almost 6 times as many goals. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 19, 2023 17:14:25 GMT 1
Maxwell would be a solid, experienced No.2 behind Nicholls. I have no doubt Bilo will be a good keeper but he needs minutes so a loan with Maxwell coming in makes sense.
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Post by arroloui on Jul 19, 2023 17:16:36 GMT 1
People make me laugh
If anyone thinks Thomas is better than hungbo they haven't a clue about football
Our clubs fans are a joke 🤣
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Post by chrispwanton on Jul 19, 2023 17:25:09 GMT 1
People make me laugh If anyone thinks Thomas is better than hungbo they haven't a clue about football Our clubs fans are a joke 🤣 [b In your opinion i may not know anything about football but you are wrong. An inform sorba is far better than joe hungbo. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 19, 2023 17:25:38 GMT 1
People make me laugh If anyone thinks Thomas is better than hungbo they haven't a clue about football Our clubs fans are a joke 🤣 I think that, at their best, there is little to choose between them in terms of what they contribute to the team. If they were both on form, 100% fit? I'd pick Sorba every day. "bu... bu... but all he does is set pieces". So fucking what? If he does them as well as he has in the past, every striker we have or may have would rather he was out on the wing than Hungbo. And every centre half too. If you can't understand that, you haven't a clue about football and are, in fact, the joke. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 19, 2023 17:27:28 GMT 1
People make me laugh If anyone thinks Thomas is better than hungbo they haven't a clue about football Our clubs fans are a joke 🤣 Maybe they are BUT warnock didn't play him in the run in until the friendly on the last day . Maybe he didn't rate him . Maybe he did but we were going to struggle to get him in AND get Sorba out.. who knows ? Either way he's not our player and ain't going to be so after your lil tantrum Maybe you'll have to come to terms with that and concentrate on crying about something else instead |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 19, 2023 17:32:24 GMT 1
I can see where NW is coming from.
The difference between Hungbo and Thomas is quite simple really.
One works for the team and one is an individualist.
Thomas works hard defensively as well as possessing probably the deadliest crossing ability in the league.
It’s not Thomas’s fault that the team haven’t converted the amount of chances he has created.
Hopefully we’ll be making a signing that solves this problem.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 19, 2023 17:38:27 GMT 1
You'd be forgiven for thinking Sorba Thomas was a mix of prime Beckham, Giggs and Pires if you had only read about him on here and hadn't seen him play
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Post by mooythegoat on Jul 19, 2023 17:42:47 GMT 1
If it wasn't for Warnock lets be honest we would all be extremely concerned by this off season right now. Thankfully we have him so no need to panic yet.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 19, 2023 17:46:06 GMT 1
You'd be forgiven for thinking Sorba Thomas was a mix of prime Beckham, Giggs and Pires if you had only read about him on here and hadn't seen him play And reading your posts for the last 15 years you'd think every one of our players was a mix of me playing Sunday league , you in the school second x1 and fat Joe from down the White Hart |
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Post by crux on Jul 19, 2023 17:50:15 GMT 1
You'd be forgiven for thinking Hungbo & Thomas were a mix of prime Beckham, Giggs and Pires if you had only read about them on here and hadn't seen him play Fixed that for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 18:15:28 GMT 1
Hungbo was loaned out by Watford who are now fine with him moving on. He was a bench option for Warnock, and that was without Sorba. He has moved to 2nd tier German football. None of this screams Championship starter. Warnock knows what he needs, if he can get them, but also who he can pass by.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 19, 2023 18:21:30 GMT 1
You'd be forgiven for thinking Sorba Thomas was a mix of prime Beckham, Giggs and Pires if you had only read about him on here and hadn't seen him play I can't see him getting particularly overegged. Saying that, I know your expectance levels; you thought Muller was shit 😃😉 |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Jul 19, 2023 18:40:26 GMT 1
No he’s not. Sorba is one of the best wingers in this division when he is firing on all cylinders. We’re just remembering the poor attitude Sorba that was here before he went to Blackburn. I think Warnock will get him knuckling down and finding that love for football again. Hungbo can control a ball, beat players and score goals. Sorba takes a decent set piece. Decent set pieces which our players scored goals from. Oh god you’re right why would we want that in our team. His set pieces resulted in players other than our non scoring strikers getting goals. Like I said on my other post, I’m not saying Hungbo is a poor player, but he isn’t as good or as big a threat as Thomas. |
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