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Post by Tinpot on Jul 25, 2023 9:49:31 GMT 1
I don’t particularly enjoy defending Leeds but those two poundshop NTT20 guys don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. The majority of those leaving are on loan, not permanent deals just yet. Yes to be fair they actually signed decent players who are now sought after by other clubs, its not a Sobhi/Mbenza/Diakhaby/Kongolo/Flo/Bacuna situation unfortunately. It says something about how bad our recruitment was that I looked at that list and thought Flo Hadergjonaj could probably feel aggrieved at being lumped in with the rest of those. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 25, 2023 9:53:12 GMT 1
Makes sense. I don't think he played against Stockport, and when Rhodes (widely rumoured to be leaving) makes the bench albeit not on the pitch then unless there is a niggle (which as far as i know hasn't been mentioned) then it gives you a fairly good indication of the pecking order. Maybe Simpson was one of the two players Warnock suggested hadn't impressed him in pre-season. I thought exactly the same. Although whether that's the case or not, in Harratt, Hudlin, Simpson and Phillips, we have 4 B-Team strikers all hoping to break through to the first team in the same season. Even if they all impressed, it would probably be worth finding a loan for one or two of them. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 25, 2023 10:10:25 GMT 1
Do you think Warnock has turned around and said that with the current wage structure, we won't be able to buy/attract a striker? Warnock did already mention that he couldn't reach a strikers wage demands that he wanted at the club. I'm assuming that the HTAFCs FFP plan won't outline of maximum wage for a player, just the total amount we plan to spend on wages as a proportion of revenue? There might be something in this as well. If Northampton (or other club) are willing to develop Simpson and pay his wages then that might free up a bit more cash to strengthen elsewhere. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 25, 2023 10:16:45 GMT 1
Yes to be fair they actually signed decent players who are now sought after by other clubs, its not a Sobhi/Mbenza/Diakhaby/Kongolo/Flo/Bacuna situation unfortunately. It says something about how bad our recruitment was that I looked at that list and thought Flo Hadergjonaj could probably feel aggrieved at being lumped in with the rest of those. And Bacca |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 25, 2023 10:25:58 GMT 1
It says something about how bad our recruitment was that I looked at that list and thought Flo Hadergjonaj could probably feel aggrieved at being lumped in with the rest of those. And Bacca Chew? Wookie error from me. |
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Post by leroy212 on Jul 25, 2023 11:05:59 GMT 1
Makes sense. I don't think he played against Stockport, and when Rhodes (widely rumoured to be leaving) makes the bench albeit not on the pitch then unless there is a niggle (which as far as i know hasn't been mentioned) then it gives you a fairly good indication of the pecking order. Maybe Simpson was one of the two players Warnock suggested hadn't impressed him in pre-season. Liked by Maynard so this must be right |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 25, 2023 11:30:51 GMT 1
Well, we might sign someone in the morning but alas, you won’t be on here to see it. 😵🔫 Shooting him is understandable, but harsh. Surely banning his account would be enough. Hmmm |
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Post by terriers2000 on Jul 25, 2023 11:59:38 GMT 1
Kieffer Moore looks like he is off to Cardiff on loan
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Post by thomo on Jul 25, 2023 12:18:40 GMT 1
Kieffer Moore looks like he is off to Cardiff on loan Very good signing if they pull it off. Wouldn't expect them to be struggling this year if they did. Exactly the type of striker Warnock would want but seems we're not at the races financially. Surprised they can afford much given they're having to pay the Sala fee now. |
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Post by leroy212 on Jul 25, 2023 12:18:50 GMT 1
Kieffer Moore looks like he is off to Cardiff on loan They seem to be doing some half decent business, I would also guess Bournemouth are still paying for him |
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Post by Melc on Jul 25, 2023 12:29:28 GMT 1
Nearest we could get on our budget is a Lawn Moore.
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Post by royrace on Jul 25, 2023 12:33:49 GMT 1
It says something about how bad our recruitment was that I looked at that list and thought Flo Hadergjonaj could probably feel aggrieved at being lumped in with the rest of those. And Bacca Both were the best of a bad bunch but miles off being PL regulars which was what was needed and neither had any re-sale value! You could add Pritchard I suppose although he at least produced something albeit not a lot. Ince of course is nowhere near the list   Hopefully you can now accept I was absolutely correct about Tom and the folly of replacing him with the dross that we did |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 25, 2023 12:55:34 GMT 1
Both were the best of a bad bunch but miles off being PL regulars which was what was needed and neither had any re-sale value! You could add Pritchard I suppose although he at least produced something albeit not a lot. Ince of course is nowhere near the list Hopefully you can now accept I was absolutely correct about Tom and the folly of replacing him with the dross that we did You mean cos he was crap but so were his replacements 🤔😉 |
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Post by royrace on Jul 25, 2023 13:14:31 GMT 1
Both were the best of a bad bunch but miles off being PL regulars which was what was needed and neither had any re-sale value! You could add Pritchard I suppose although he at least produced something albeit not a lot. Ince of course is nowhere near the list Hopefully you can now accept I was absolutely correct about Tom and the folly of replacing him with the dross that we did You mean cos he was crap but so were his replacements 🤔😉 No I mean he was significantly better than his replacements and therefore shouldn't have been sold. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Jul 25, 2023 13:16:17 GMT 1
How can we be behind a team coming out of an embargo and have no money with an owner imprisoned for fraud financially? Yet we are restricted by FFP. Surely cardiffs priority is to pay for sala. If they say they can’t afford to how are they getting round paying for Moore. We must be really restricted.
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Post by mosher on Jul 25, 2023 13:19:32 GMT 1
You mean cos he was crap but so were his replacements 🤔😉 No I mean he was significantly better than his replacements and therefore shouldn't have been sold. I thought I was the only one that thought Tom Ince was more unlucky than shit. I lost count of the amount of shots he had that were either deflected, hit the bar or forced a great save from the keeper. Obviously there were some crap shots in there, but I felt he was unlucky. I certainly didn't agree with the guy I sat next to regularly who always seemed to shout stuff along the lines of "you're only a footballer because of your dad".  |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 25, 2023 13:22:26 GMT 1
Kieffer Moore looks like he is off to Cardiff on loan Very good signing if they pull it off. Wouldn't expect them to be struggling this year if they did. Exactly the type of striker Warnock would want but seems we're not at the races financially. Surprised they can afford much given they're having to pay the Sala fee now. No idea how Cardiff manage under FFP, especially after finally coughing up for Sala. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 25, 2023 13:31:28 GMT 1
How can we be behind a team coming out of an embargo and have no money with an owner imprisoned for fraud financially? Yet we are restricted by FFP. Surely cardiffs priority is to pay for sala. If they say they can’t afford to how are they getting round paying for Moore. We must be really restricted. I agree. Stories like this makes our situation even more frustrating. I totally understand the reasons why we are told we can’t spend money but what I don’t get is how other clubs are able to spend when presumably abiding by the same rules as us. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 25, 2023 13:39:48 GMT 1
How can we be behind a team coming out of an embargo and have no money with an owner imprisoned for fraud financially? Yet we are restricted by FFP. Surely cardiffs priority is to :-Xpay for sala. If they say they can’t afford to how are they getting round paying for Moore. We must be really restricted. I agree. Stories like this makes our situation even more frustrating. I totally understand the reasons why we are told we can’t spend money but what I don’t get is how other clubs are able to spend when presumably abiding by the same rules as us. We have been fed that we have no money for years now so why would the new owners change the story when we keep swallowing it    |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 25, 2023 13:47:11 GMT 1
You mean cos he was crap but so were his replacements 🤔😉 No I mean he was significantly better than his replacements and therefore shouldn't have been sold. Yes he should cos he wasn't good enough for ghe Greedy League. Unfortunately one of his replacements was as bad and the other far worse. To prove a point he's done nothing at Stoke or Reading since he left us. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 25, 2023 14:00:42 GMT 1
I agree. Stories like this makes our situation even more frustrating. I totally understand the reasons why we are told we can’t spend money but what I don’t get is how other clubs are able to spend when presumably abiding by the same rules as us. We have been fed that we have no money for years now so why would the new owners change the story when we keep swallowing it May be it's true the accounts would agree |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 25, 2023 14:02:59 GMT 1
No I mean he was significantly better than his replacements and therefore shouldn't have been sold. Yes he should cos he wasn't good enough for ghe Greedy League. Unfortunately one of his replacements was as bad and the other far worse. To prove a point he's done nothing at Stoke or Reading since he left us. I would suggest both were worse. Mbenza had a few months in the championship of taking good free kicks but in the PL he was even less effective than Diakhaby - let alone Ince. I do agree that we were right to replace Ince though. As you say, he wasn't good enough at that level. Just a shame what we replaced him with. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 25, 2023 14:17:48 GMT 1
Lossl got more assists for us in the premier league than Ince, Mbenza and Diakhaby combined.
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Post by terriers2000 on Jul 25, 2023 14:32:56 GMT 1
Sam surridge leaving forest, wouldn’t mind him👌🏻
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 25, 2023 14:33:51 GMT 1
Sam surridge leaving forest, wouldn’t mind him👌🏻 As he is leaving, i wonder where he is seemingly heading. |
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Post by mallyb on Jul 25, 2023 14:34:39 GMT 1
How can we be behind a team coming out of an embargo and have no money with an owner imprisoned for fraud financially? Yet we are restricted by FFP. Surely cardiffs priority is to pay for sala. If they say they can’t afford to how are they getting round paying for Moore. We must be really restricted. We don’t have the income of other teams. Cheap season tickets and not a thriving town anymore attracting big businesses in. Terrible infrastructure compared to other similar towns so we don’t have competition for our marketing space. I remember a friend who sponsored town before and during the PL seasons and Leeds. When we were in the PL our fees were less than a third of Leeds in the championship for the same sponsorship opportunity. Cardiff will be closer to Leeds than us in commercial revenues. FFP is about spending a proportion of your income. Council is shocking at supporting business or creating a thriving environment for business, doesn’t help |
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Post by Dan on Jul 25, 2023 14:35:12 GMT 1
Sam surridge leaving forest, wouldn’t mind him👌🏻 Off to the MLS for £5 million |
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Post by johncoddington5 on Jul 25, 2023 14:35:41 GMT 1
Sam surridge leaving forest, wouldn’t mind him👌🏻 As he is leaving, i wonder where he is seemingly heading. He’s off to America |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 25, 2023 14:38:00 GMT 1
Sam surridge leaving forest, wouldn’t mind him👌🏻 Off to the MLS for £5 million Good move for him. over there he will be like Ronaldo the 90's version lol. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 25, 2023 14:50:22 GMT 1
How can we be behind a team coming out of an embargo and have no money with an owner imprisoned for fraud financially? Yet we are restricted by FFP. Surely cardiffs priority is to pay for sala. If they say they can’t afford to how are they getting round paying for Moore. We must be really restricted. We don’t have the income of other teams. Cheap season tickets and not a thriving town anymore attracting big businesses in. Terrible infrastructure compared to other similar towns so we don’t have competition for our marketing space. I remember a friend who sponsored town before and during the PL seasons and Leeds. When we were in the PL our fees were less than a third of Leeds in the championship for the same sponsorship opportunity. Cardiff will be closer to Leeds than us in commercial revenues. FFP is about spending a proportion of your income. Council is shocking at supporting business or creating a thriving environment for business, doesn’t help That’s a good point about the council. Never see any evidence of them supporting the Town’s football club. |
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Hopefully you can now accept I was absolutely correct about Tom and the folly of replacing him with the dross that we did 
