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Post by terriers2000 on Jul 26, 2023 12:59:08 GMT 1
NW has said from the the start - before anyone left - there was room for a couple of signings. With the outgoings there should be space you'd think for 4 or 5 new faces (especially if Rhodes and Mahoney go) You could also add to that list the loanees; Lowton, Knockhart, Wagstaff and Smith
We also let about 10 leave the young team and only brought in 5 so savings there I don't think money is the issue now - but it needs to be the right player and sometimes the better quality ones take a bit more effort/ patience I also expect we'll be in for loanees. NW remit is 12 months so having 3 loanees makes sense so the new bloke next summer has space to shape the squad they want and not inherit too many NW players And Hungbo and Tino |
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Post by schindlersmissed on Jul 26, 2023 13:06:57 GMT 1
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Post by townrwe on Jul 26, 2023 13:15:08 GMT 1
18 players out and 1 in... seems strange that we had so much deadwood that's no-where near the first XI.
Add Rhodes and Maloney, plus I could see one or two more going on loan or perm we will literally have moved on two teams out of the squad.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 26, 2023 13:20:03 GMT 1
18 players out and 1 in... seems strange that we had so much deadwood that's no-where near the first XI. Add Rhodes and Maloney, plus I could see one or two more going on loan or perm we will literally have moved on two teams out of the squad. Its the incredible recuritment of Bromby. He recurited so many players, that a self respecting manager couldn't and wouldn't use. But don't worry we will force them on unrpoven young coaches. Once a proven manager came in, he probs said like fuck your doing that to me mate. |
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Post by Spike24 on Jul 26, 2023 13:35:58 GMT 1
I think Ern was fully behind the patient approach at the end of last season . Before his annual pre season meltdown . We need and I'm sure will get some players who are first team ready. Each and every one of the guys who have exited aren't that . Bar Camara and we didn't really have any choice with him . If players like Simpson critchlow or Boyle had stayed and were anywhere near the first team the same people would be kicking off as the ones kicking off that they left I also find it interesting that people don't count koroma and ruffels as incoming. Would you care to highlight the post where I have had a meltdown? Certainly news to me. I really cba arguing with you anymore Ted. You are tiresome. You might think the 1st 11 is all rosy but I don't. Koroma vs Burnley (H) was diabolical and although he was brilliant at the end of last year you never know which version you are going to get. I wouldn't be pinning any hopes on him. When we had Nakayama last season we were bottom of the league so again, I wouldn't be pinning any hopes on him either. Bith may be brilliant and I sincerely hope they are, however as I see it this is a first 11 that came a cock hair away from relegation and it has yet to be strengthened. Whether you and Grim agree with that or not I don't care. I'm giving an opinion and my personal perspective. Don't let it ruin your lunch So just to clarify, if we don't strengthen significantly, you think we'll be relegated? |
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Post by andyboothscat on Jul 26, 2023 13:45:07 GMT 1
Would you care to highlight the post where I have had a meltdown? Certainly news to me. I really cba arguing with you anymore Ted. You are tiresome. You might think the 1st 11 is all rosy but I don't. Koroma vs Burnley (H) was diabolical and although he was brilliant at the end of last year you never know which version you are going to get. I wouldn't be pinning any hopes on him. When we had Nakayama last season we were bottom of the league so again, I wouldn't be pinning any hopes on him either. Bith may be brilliant and I sincerely hope they are, however as I see it this is a first 11 that came a cock hair away from relegation and it has yet to be strengthened. Whether you and Grim agree with that or not I don't care. I'm giving an opinion and my personal perspective. Don't let it ruin your lunch So just to clarify, if we don't strengthen significantly, you think we'll be relegated? He very clearly didn't say that. FWIW you could take out 'significantly' and i'd probably agree with that though. So would the bookies. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 26, 2023 13:46:17 GMT 1
Would you care to highlight the post where I have had a meltdown? Certainly news to me. I really cba arguing with you anymore Ted. You are tiresome. You might think the 1st 11 is all rosy but I don't. Koroma vs Burnley (H) was diabolical and although he was brilliant at the end of last year you never know which version you are going to get. I wouldn't be pinning any hopes on him. When we had Nakayama last season we were bottom of the league so again, I wouldn't be pinning any hopes on him either. Bith may be brilliant and I sincerely hope they are, however as I see it this is a first 11 that came a cock hair away from relegation and it has yet to be strengthened. Whether you and Grim agree with that or not I don't care. I'm giving an opinion and my personal perspective. Don't let it ruin your lunch So just to clarify, if we don't strengthen significantly, you think we'll be relegated? Depends how you define significantly. If we don't strengthen at all then as much as it pains me to say, I think we are in for a very tough season. I think it's essential we get off to a good start. |
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Post by Wingman on Jul 26, 2023 14:04:18 GMT 1
Bet that CB from Birmingham will be glad Simpsons gone. But unless we bring someone with similar attributes we've no striker with pace or power in the squad now. The lack of pace, as a squad, is worrying. My big concern is the lack of real depth of injuries bite. Still time in the window in fairness but if we start off badly, the mutinous voices will get louder. |
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Post by Melc on Jul 26, 2023 14:15:58 GMT 1
Bet that CB from Birmingham will be glad Simpsons gone. But unless we bring someone with similar attributes we've no striker with pace or power in the squad now. The lack of pace, as a squad, is worrying. My big concern is the lack of real depth of injuries bite. Still time in the window in fairness but if we start off badly, the mutinous voices will get louder. Time to judge will be at the end of the transfer window, but if we don’t improve our squad with Thee or four decent signings that won’t weaken the team then I feel we will go down. Warnock performed a miracle last season but the overall squad was much stronger. Also over a full season tactics to close out the opposition for long periods then try to win the games in the last half hour will be harder to achieve over 46 games. |
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Post by exeter2terrier on Jul 26, 2023 14:25:29 GMT 1
Squad (26): Nicholls, Maxwell, Chapman, Turton, Spencer, Ruffles, Nakayama, Jackson, Headley, Lees, Pearson, Helik, Edmonds-Green, Hogg, High, Kasumu, Rudoni, Jones, Thomas, Mahoney, Diarra, Koroma, Rhodes, Ward, Harratt, Hudlin.
20 needed per match day squad. Turton injured. Mahoney and Rhodes may also go.
Talk about thin.
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Post by joek on Jul 26, 2023 14:26:41 GMT 1
My big concern is the lack of real depth of injuries bite. Still time in the window in fairness but if we start off badly, the mutinous voices will get louder. Time to judge will be at the end of the transfer window, but if we don’t improve our squad with Thee or four decent signings that won’t weaken the team then I feel we will go down. Warnock performed a miracle last season but the overall squad was much stronger. Big problem for me at the mo is that some of the teams that we might expect to struggle this year - Plymouth, Birmingham, Ipswich, Stoke, Cardiff - seem to have had good windows so far and have improved their squads. I’m still assuming we’re working to a plan and have got some shrewd signings - either loan or permanent - on the go or nearly complete, but given how tough our August fixtures look, it would be a shame if they didn’t arrive sooner than later. I still have faith but am getting a little worried I think. |
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Post by Lovechops on Jul 26, 2023 14:34:18 GMT 1
Squad (26): Nicholls, Maxwell, Chapman, Turton, Spencer, Ruffles, Nakayama, Jackson, Headley, Lees, Pearson, Helik, Edmonds-Green, Hogg, High, Kasumu, Rudoni, Jones, Thomas, Mahoney, Diarra, Koroma, Rhodes, Ward, Harratt, Hudlin. 20 needed per match day squad. Turton injured. Mahoney and Rhodes may also go. Talk about thin. You can only register 25 players as you playing list , List A as far as I’m aware |
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Post by exeter2terrier on Jul 26, 2023 14:36:00 GMT 1
Squad (26): Nicholls, Maxwell, Chapman, Turton, Spencer, Ruffles, Nakayama, Jackson, Headley, Lees, Pearson, Helik, Edmonds-Green, Hogg, High, Kasumu, Rudoni, Jones, Thomas, Mahoney, Diarra, Koroma, Rhodes, Ward, Harratt, Hudlin. 20 needed per match day squad. Turton injured. Mahoney and Rhodes may also go. Talk about thin. You can only register 25 players as you playing list , List A as far as I’m aware You’d think that would go up with a 20 man match day squad. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 26, 2023 14:42:29 GMT 1
Also, unless they're on loan from elsewhere they don't count towards your 25 if they're under a certain age (21?).
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 26, 2023 14:43:12 GMT 1
Squad (26): Nicholls, Maxwell, Chapman, Turton, Spencer, Ruffles, Nakayama, Jackson, Headley, Lees, Pearson, Helik, Edmonds-Green, Hogg, High, Kasumu, Rudoni, Jones, Thomas, Mahoney, Diarra, Koroma, Rhodes, Ward, Harratt, Hudlin. 20 needed per match day squad. Turton injured. Mahoney and Rhodes may also go. Talk about thin. You can only register 25 players as you playing list , List A as far as I’m aware Isn't that just the premier league? |
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Post by foxtrot666 on Jul 26, 2023 14:53:57 GMT 1
Squad (26): Nicholls, Maxwell, Chapman, Turton, Spencer, Ruffles, Nakayama, Jackson, Headley, Lees, Pearson, Helik, Edmonds-Green, Hogg, High, Kasumu, Rudoni, Jones, Thomas, Mahoney, Diarra, Koroma, Rhodes, Ward, Harratt, Hudlin. 20 needed per match day squad. Turton injured. Mahoney and Rhodes may also go. Talk about thin. I expect the likes of Leicester, Southampton and Leeds will be shitting themselves looking at that. Plymouth game only 10 days away, come on Town lets have a couple of decent signings over the next few of days. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 26, 2023 14:55:18 GMT 1
Squad (26): Nicholls, Maxwell, Chapman, Turton, Spencer, Ruffles, Nakayama, Jackson, Headley, Lees, Pearson, Helik, Edmonds-Green, Hogg, High, Kasumu, Rudoni, Jones, Thomas, Mahoney, Diarra, Koroma, Rhodes, Ward, Harratt, Hudlin. 20 needed per match day squad. Turton injured. Mahoney and Rhodes may also go. Talk about thin. I expect the likes of Leicester, Southampton and Leeds will be shitting themselves looking at that. Plymouth game only 10 days away, come on Town lets have a couple of decent signings over the next few of days. Don't need signings , we have Warnock...... |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 26, 2023 14:56:29 GMT 1
We'll be naming 20 player matchday squads in the Championship this season with the two extra sub slots. Do we currently have 20 players capable of filling those? That's before injuries and suspensions start to bite.
Nicholls
Maxwell
Turton (injured)
Spencer (ready?)
Lees (injured)
Pearson
Helik
REG
Nakayama
Ruffels
Jackson
Headley
Koroma
Thomas
Jones
Hogg (injured)
Kasumu
High
Rudoni
Diarra
Ward
Hudlin (ready?)
Harratt (ready?)
Rhodes (frozen out?)
Mahoney (frozen out?)
We've got 17 ready to play with the rest either currently injured, frozen out or maybe not ready for the rigours of the Championship.
We look light at RB, CM, wing and striker imo. We need 3/4 solid additions that are ready to play and improve the team. Hoping the kids all step up is dangerous.
Hopefully we'll get some quality first teamers in in the next week or two and not scratting around on deadline day, which is 5 games into the season. We need to hit the ground running.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 26, 2023 14:59:45 GMT 1
I get a little feeling, that Nagle et all, reckon that Warnock is a magician, he can make water into wine etc. Therefore don't need signing ore much. God knows what the plan will be as and when Warnock leaves. I understand we are under ffp rules, but surely it cannot be this hard to get players in, other clubs are under similar issues, but are getting deals done.
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Post by wigster on Jul 26, 2023 15:02:54 GMT 1
Bet that CB from Birmingham will be glad Simpsons gone. But unless we bring someone with similar attributes we've no striker with pace or power in the squad now. The lack of pace, as a squad, is worrying. I would agree Porroh - but I'd amend it to say that we don't actually have one decent striker in the squad at all. I was thinking of going to the friendly on Saturday (I don't live locally) but the thought of watching Ward, Koroma, Harratt, Rhodes again - or a combination of any of them - does not fill me with any enthusiasm whatsoever. I just hope these sought after loan players are promised, and not just hoped for. |
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Post by foxtrot666 on Jul 26, 2023 15:03:48 GMT 1
I expect the likes of Leicester, Southampton and Leeds will be shitting themselves looking at that. Plymouth game only 10 days away, come on Town lets have a couple of decent signings over the next few of days. Don't need signings , we have Warnock...... With this squad we need Pep |
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Post by mosher on Jul 26, 2023 15:12:20 GMT 1
Don't need signings , we have Warnock...... With this squad we need Pep Pep (and Klopp, Poch and anyone else) would shit themselves having to manage our squad. King Colin though? Piece of piss  |
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Post by detox on Jul 26, 2023 15:19:02 GMT 1
Looking at that hatchet job NW has made its a damning indictment of our recruitment under the previous ownership/s. That's a mega clear out which most fans will think is fully justified.
Now the decks are cleared, what's left is reasonable and I'm ok with it but....and I'm sure NW is working on this, we need a bit of quality adding.
I'm not panicking because I believe we have our targets and incomings will soon be announced.
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Post by goodbet on Jul 26, 2023 15:35:41 GMT 1
Looking at that hatchet job NW has made its a damning indictment of our recruitment under the previous ownership/s. That's a mega clear out which most fans will think is fully justified. Now the decks are cleared, what's left is reasonable and I'm ok with it but....and I'm sure NW is working on this, we need a bit of quality adding. I'm not panicking because I believe we have our targets and incomings will soon be announced. We all hope you are right, but I for one don't have any blind faith. I like the talk and the videos, but at the end of the day it's the first eleven where the new management need to apply themselves, if they do we will follow them. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 26, 2023 15:41:32 GMT 1
Still cant work out how you can stick to a plan put in, in march when you have a takeover in progress, you dont know which division you will be in and a transfer window looming?  ? The NDAs put in by Hoyle worry me a lot, how bad was the financial fuckwittery over the past few seasons that they need hiding? Kev says we are debt free??? Id need the above explaining simply in black and white??🤔 Truth is this is professional football and if normal business rules applied and were enforced then lots of clubs would disappear overnight? |
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Post by prepare on Jul 26, 2023 15:48:23 GMT 1
I get a little feeling, that Nagle et all, reckon that Warnock is a magician, he can make water into wine etc. Therefore don't need signing ore much. God knows what the plan will be as and when Warnock leaves. I understand we are under ffp rules, but surely it cannot be this hard to get players in, other clubs are under similar issues, but are getting deals done. don’t panic !! |
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Post by prepare on Jul 26, 2023 15:49:54 GMT 1
Still cant work out how you can stick to a plan put in, in march when you have a takeover in progress, you dont know which division you will be in and a transfer window looming? ? The NDAs put in by Hoyle worry me a lot, how bad was the financial fuckwittery over the past few seasons that they need hiding? Kev says we are debt free??? Id need the above explaining simply in black and white??🤔 Truth is this is professional football and if normal business rules applied and were enforced then lots of clubs would disappear overnight? your last line is spot on!! |
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 26, 2023 15:50:52 GMT 1
I really do think we're going to be all right this season.
Last season was the season horribilis, with two inexperienced (and inadequate) managers who failed to get anything out of an imbalanced squad. That being said, the imbalanced squad clearly had talent in it if managed properly. And thus it proved.
The imbalance hasn't been addressed, but we've taken huge steps toward being able to redress it. Last season's outcast is back to bring a supply line. The talented international defender who was finding his feet is fit again. They're not new signings, but they're new to Warnock, and given his record I suspect he'll get much more out of them.
We need three players to make everyone breathe a little easier. We need a right-back, a central midfielder with some presence and composure, and a striker. Get those and we'll win more than we lose as last season's rookies have a year under their belts playing Championship football. And that's one of the big things for me: we had a young squad, but it now has a year under its belt and should be in a position for players to push on, such as Rudoni and Diarra.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 26, 2023 16:03:01 GMT 1
I get a little feeling, that Nagle et all, reckon that Warnock is a magician, he can make water into wine etc. Therefore don't need signing ore much. God knows what the plan will be as and when Warnock leaves. I understand we are under ffp rules, but surely it cannot be this hard to get players in, other clubs are under similar issues, but are getting deals done. don’t panic !! Not panicking - just stating a thought. I mean zero rumours of incomings - gives you the feeling that short to naf all is happening. |
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Post by boooothy on Jul 26, 2023 16:05:21 GMT 1
I think we’ve got to the stage now that any new signings won’t be starting at Plymouth.
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