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Post by mooythegoat on Aug 1, 2023 8:12:24 GMT 1
We should be all over this Unfortunately I have seen nothing to suggest Nagle could afford anything like this so far. I'd set expectations a little lower. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 1, 2023 8:12:48 GMT 1
We should be all over this Can’t afford |
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Post by 4 pts on Aug 1, 2023 8:32:44 GMT 1
We should be all over this Can’t afford Surprised they can given the debts they have and the owner hasn't been seen for months either |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 1, 2023 8:38:24 GMT 1
To be fair my post wasn't aimed at KN it was aimed at Dean Hoyle. For what it's worth I like KN. His interaction with the fans is second to none. Nobody knows why we are so severely hamstrung but he makes all the right noises and Warnock obviously believes in him which is good enough for me. With Dean Hoyle he burst onto the scene with these promises of signing players if we bought the tickets then oversaw a transition to the Premier League most fans never dreamed they would see and I am eternally grateful for that. Equally though he has to bear the responsibility of just how much of a catastrophic shitshow it has been since we were relegated. I know he was ill and I hope to god he is fit and healthy, but it was like one day he decided he no longer wanted to fund the club anymore but furthermore he wanted the money back he had put in. With 100 million quids worth of dud signings and a ridiculous wage bill, our safety net parachute payments were earmarked for paying off his debt at a time we desperately needed stability. All of this financial disparity is (in my opinion) down to him. I know he loves the club but severe mistakes have been made. We seem to be not only treading water but flailing like mad just to stay a championship club. Our future should have been so much better. I wasn't having a go I was just asking a few questions. Before Hoyle we had Davy and I don't think I've ever been as bored with town . To the extent that I stopped going for a bit. Before Davy we had people walking around with buckets . Everyone makes mistakes but in the context of it all the existence of Dean Hoyle has been massively positive for our club . I didn't expect warnock to agree to another season . When he did I assumed he'd been tempted by a war chest that gave him "one last shot". I'm not sure why he pushed his missus to let him have a season of "consolidation" whereby 17th would be seen as a success. So tbh I'm a bit gutted cos I'd got my hopes up . But it is what it is . We can't expect folk to throw money at things just to please us We wouldn't want to come across as "entitled" 😉 |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 1, 2023 8:50:37 GMT 1
To be fair my post wasn't aimed at KN it was aimed at Dean Hoyle. For what it's worth I like KN. His interaction with the fans is second to none. Nobody knows why we are so severely hamstrung but he makes all the right noises and Warnock obviously believes in him which is good enough for me. With Dean Hoyle he burst onto the scene with these promises of signing players if we bought the tickets then oversaw a transition to the Premier League most fans never dreamed they would see and I am eternally grateful for that. Equally though he has to bear the responsibility of just how much of a catastrophic shitshow it has been since we were relegated. I know he was ill and I hope to god he is fit and healthy, but it was like one day he decided he no longer wanted to fund the club anymore but furthermore he wanted the money back he had put in. With 100 million quids worth of dud signings and a ridiculous wage bill, our safety net parachute payments were earmarked for paying off his debt at a time we desperately needed stability. All of this financial disparity is (in my opinion) down to him. I know he loves the club but severe mistakes have been made. We seem to be not only treading water but flailing like mad just to stay a championship club. Our future should have been so much better. I wasn't having a go I was just asking a few questions. Before Hoyle we had Davy and I don't think I've ever been as bored with town . To the extent that I stopped going for a bit. Before Davy we had people walking around with buckets . Everyone makes mistakes but in the context of it all the existence of Dean Hoyle has been massively positive for our club . I didn't expect warnock to agree to another season . When he did I assumed he'd been tempted by a war chest that gave him "one last shot". I'm not sure why he pushed his missus to let him have a season of "consolidation" whereby 17th would be seen as a success. So tbh I'm a bit gutted cos I'd got my hopes up . But it is what it is . We can't expect folk to throw money at things just to please us I think warnock has been tempted by an offer that he and jeppo simply couldn't refuse. This will have taken a large portion of our budget for player salaries. If warnock is on £1m basic for the year (20k a week) that is probably 3 or 4 players salaries in our new budget. I can't see warnock signing for less considering the numbers quoted for his 3 month saviour period last season. KN probably thought paying more for warnock and signing less players was a safer bet than a new manager with numerous new players. Also warnock staying got ward and koroma to sign new deals. |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Aug 1, 2023 8:59:56 GMT 1
It clearly looks like it is going to be prem loans this season. To be honest as frustrating as it is to have to wait for these signings, it is probably the best option. Especially when NW is only here for 12 months.
Get his replacement lined up and work him for permanent replacements towards the end of this season.
Nixon has reported Tom Cannon can leave on loan for a £1m fee. Surely with the outgoings on wages and what we can actually spend, we can get a couple of players on similar levels.
Let’s hope that’s what all the outgoings has been in preparation for. The only worry I have with this leaving it until the end of the window, is you pin your hopes on a target and leave it late and then it doesn’t come off. Either we get shafted over the deal because teams know we need the players or another team just comes in and gazumps us.
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Post by royrace on Aug 1, 2023 9:22:49 GMT 1
I wasn't having a go I was just asking a few questions. Before Hoyle we had Davy and I don't think I've ever been as bored with town . To the extent that I stopped going for a bit. Before Davy we had people walking around with buckets . Everyone makes mistakes but in the context of it all the existence of Dean Hoyle has been massively positive for our club . I didn't expect warnock to agree to another season . When he did I assumed he'd been tempted by a war chest that gave him "one last shot". I'm not sure why he pushed his missus to let him have a season of "consolidation" whereby 17th would be seen as a success. So tbh I'm a bit gutted cos I'd got my hopes up . But it is what it is . We can't expect folk to throw money at things just to please us I think warnock has been tempted by an offer that he and jeppo simply couldn't refuse. This will have taken a large portion of our budget for player salaries. If warnock is on £1m basic for the year (20k a week) that is probably 3 or 4 players salaries in our new budget. I can't see warnock signing for less considering the numbers quoted for his 3 month saviour period last season. KN probably thought paying more for warnock and signing less players was a safer bet than a new manager with numerous new players. Also warnock staying got ward and koroma to sign new deals. It did cross my mind we may have blown a large chunk of the budget on the management team! Warnock would quite rightly want a big chunk to do another year. Probably wasn't cheap last season either! |
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Post by mosher on Aug 1, 2023 9:24:06 GMT 1
A load of BS we had to bring in cash end of. No we actually didn't, Hoyle sold LOB/Toff to start to get his money back or as much of it as possible back. The club was not in finicial difficulity at all and could have easily asked for the full wack of cash for the pair. Close the competition for least knowledgeable statement of the year!!! |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 1, 2023 9:41:55 GMT 1
No we actually didn't, Hoyle sold LOB/Toff to start to get his money back or as much of it as possible back. The club was not in finicial difficulity at all and could have easily asked for the full wack of cash for the pair. Close the competition for least knowledgeable statement of the year!!! We were literally hours away from administration last season. I can't believe some of the delusional comments I read on here sometimes 🤣 |
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Post by mallyb on Aug 1, 2023 9:55:26 GMT 1
Close the competition for least knowledgeable statement of the year!!! We were literally hours away from administration last season. I can't believe some of the delusional comments I read on here sometimes 🤣 The administration threat was as a result of Phil’s administrators being idiots over the share transfer that was blocking Dean selling the club. Once the shares were transferred the threat went away. All the same people still involved with the same money after the threat as before. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Aug 1, 2023 9:58:09 GMT 1
Close the competition for least knowledgeable statement of the year!!! We were literally hours away from administration last season. I can't believe some of the delusional comments I read on here sometimes 🤣 Due to Hoyle not wanting to run the club anymore, not that the club was running out of money. There is a huge difference, there is a difference between a club running out of money and the owner of said club not wanting to pay. Hoyle was owed money, he wanted it back or to get rid of the club, didn't want to pay PH out unless he was left under no other option. Hoyle could have kept LOB and Toff paid them. He stripped the wage bill as he didn't want to pay, not that he couldn't . |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 1, 2023 10:29:32 GMT 1
Close the competition for least knowledgeable statement of the year!!! We were literally hours away from administration last season. I can't believe some of the delusional comments I read on here sometimes 🤣 Due to issues between Hoyle and other interests, the threat of administration was invoked. Hoyle allow someone to take over the club and his due dilligence was poor at best. The fuckwittery involved has been clear and obvious for sometime at Town. It is still hanging over us. I have no idea what game the management were playing from the Premier league onwards but it was a mess compounded by themselves. |
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Post by arry11 on Aug 1, 2023 10:33:30 GMT 1
We were literally hours away from administration last season. I can't believe some of the delusional comments I read on here sometimes 🤣 Due to Hoyle not wanting to run the club anymore, not that the club was running out of money. There is a huge difference, there is a difference between a club running out of money and the owner of said club not wanting to pay. Hoyle was owed money, he wanted it back or to get rid of the club, didn't want to pay PH out unless he was left under no other option. Hoyle could have kept LOB and Toff paid them. He stripped the wage bill as he didn't want to pay, not that he couldn't . BS again DH as not received his owed money back he forfeited the 40m owed to him if KN paid off all the bank loans so the club now have no debts. If we get promoted KN will pay DH a fee that was the deal. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 1, 2023 10:43:48 GMT 1
We should be all over this You honestly, truly, really believe that he would choose us over WBA? They're a far better bet for furthering his career. In truth, I can't understand why any player would want to join Huddersfield Town because, as far as I can see, there's no real incentive. Year after year of crises, perennial strugglers always tipped for relegation, with just the odd flickering flame of a season in the darkness. Oh, and the town is a dump too. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 1, 2023 10:44:07 GMT 1
Due to Hoyle not wanting to run the club anymore, not that the club was running out of money. There is a huge difference, there is a difference between a club running out of money and the owner of said club not wanting to pay. Hoyle was owed money, he wanted it back or to get rid of the club, didn't want to pay PH out unless he was left under no other option. Hoyle could have kept LOB and Toff paid them. He stripped the wage bill as he didn't want to pay, not that he couldn't . BS again DH as not received his owed money back he forfeited the 40m owed to him if KN paid off all the bank loans so the club now have no debts. If we get promoted KN will pay DH a fee that was the deal. Hoyle took his seat back and was not prepared to run the club anymore. He wanted to sell. The amount he was prepared to spend during the period between taking the reins again and selling the club is the issue, including the deals done for players during that time.? That he did not wish to spend a penny more and wanted to fund some of it by sales, without real investment in the squad is his business but we are allowed to comment? |
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Post by arry11 on Aug 1, 2023 10:50:16 GMT 1
BS again DH as not received his owed money back he forfeited the 40m owed to him if KN paid off all the bank loans so the club now have no debts. If we get promoted KN will pay DH a fee that was the deal. Hoyle took his seat back and was not prepared to run the club anymore. He wanted to sell. The amount he was prepared to spend during the period between taking the reins again and selling the club is the issue, including the deals done for players during that time.? That he did not wish to spend a penny more and wanted to fund some of it by sales, without real investment in the squad is his business but we are allowed to comment? No problem with that it's the BS posters who make out DH was only interested in getting his money back he had to do something to stave off the club going into major meltdown. |
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Post by 4 pts on Aug 1, 2023 11:02:44 GMT 1
F**k Hoyle, LOB and Toff. Its done with, new owner, new season only a few days aways. Lets just hope whatever budget there is, Warnock can get what he needs with it
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Post by prepare on Aug 1, 2023 11:20:45 GMT 1
Close the competition for least knowledgeable statement of the year!!! We were literally hours away from administration last season. I can't believe some of the delusional comments I read on here sometimes 🤣 they don’t want to know are believe what the club as said !! Utt |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 1, 2023 11:31:25 GMT 1
We should be all over this You honestly, truly, really believe that he would choose us over WBA? They're a far better bet for furthering his career. In truth, I can't understand why any player would want to join Huddersfield Town because, as far as I can see, there's no real incentive. Year after year of crises, perennial strugglers always tipped for relegation, with just the odd flickering flame of a season in the darkness. Oh, and the town is a dump too. Positive 😁👌👍 |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 1, 2023 11:53:47 GMT 1
We should be all over this You honestly, truly, really believe that he would choose us over WBA? They're a far better bet for furthering his career. In truth, I can't understand why any player would want to join Huddersfield Town because, as far as I can see, there's no real incentive. Year after year of crises, perennial strugglers always tipped for relegation, with just the odd flickering flame of a season in the darkness. Oh, and the town is a dump too. Aye - the likes of Coady, Colwill, O'Brien, Nicholls, Toffolo must all regret coming!!! Massive expectancy at WBA - lots of big names on big wages but theyve done nowt for a couple of years now and am not sure there is any better than here for career progression - other than if the team succeeds. As for no incentive to join - ask NW why he's done it then? He doesnt need the money, the hassle nor would he have signed on again to have zero backing. Everyone is rightly concerned with the lack of depth - but lets be honest...........how many of the exiting players would you have wanted to be mainstays in the first team next season. Also - the window now extends to the end of this month - we are amongst the group waiting for bigger clubs up the foodchain to decide who and where they want to send fringe and young players. I suspect our team come Oct might be 2 or 3 different to that which takes the field on Sat - and thats without injuries. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 1, 2023 12:29:08 GMT 1
It clearly looks like it is going to be prem loans this season. To be honest as frustrating as it is to have to wait for these signings, it is probably the best option. Especially when NW is only here for 12 months. Get his replacement lined up and work him for permanent replacements towards the end of this season. Nixon has reported Tom Cannon can leave on loan for a £1m fee. Surely with the outgoings on wages and what we can actually spend, we can get a couple of players on similar levels. Let’s hope that’s what all the outgoings has been in preparation for. The only worry I have with this leaving it until the end of the window, is you pin your hopes on a target and leave it late and then it doesn’t come off. Either we get shafted over the deal because teams know we need the players or another team just comes in and gazumps us. Not sure an 85 year old comedian is going to help us, although he was great with a Ball in the 1980s. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 1, 2023 12:31:42 GMT 1
You honestly, truly, really believe that he would choose us over WBA? They're a far better bet for furthering his career. In truth, I can't understand why any player would want to join Huddersfield Town because, as far as I can see, there's no real incentive. Year after year of crises, perennial strugglers always tipped for relegation, with just the odd flickering flame of a season in the darkness. Oh, and the town is a dump too. Aye - the likes of Coady, Colwill, O'Brien, Nicholls, Toffolo must all regret coming!!! Massive expectancy at WBA - lots of big names on big wages but theyve done nowt for a couple of years now and am not sure there is any better than here for career progression - other than if the team succeeds. As for no incentive to join - ask NW why he's done it then? He doesnt need the money, the hassle nor would he have signed on again to have zero backing. Everyone is rightly concerned with the lack of depth - but lets be honest...........how many of the exiting players would you have wanted to be mainstays in the first team next season. Also - the window now extends to the end of this month - we are amongst the group waiting for bigger clubs up the foodchain to decide who and where they want to send fringe and young players. I suspect our team come Oct might be 2 or 3 different to that which takes the field on Sat - and thats without injuries. As delighted as I would be to see Josh Maja here, I expect he'll have better offers than both ourselves and WBA. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 1, 2023 12:33:46 GMT 1
No we actually didn't, Hoyle sold LOB/Toff to start to get his money back or as much of it as possible back. The club was not in finicial difficulity at all and could have easily asked for the full wack of cash for the pair. Close the competition for least knowledgeable statement of the year!!! I would suggest that you overestimate the level of knowledge on here. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 1, 2023 12:45:18 GMT 1
No we actually didn't, Hoyle sold LOB/Toff to start to get his money back or as much of it as possible back. The club was not in finicial difficulity at all and could have easily asked for the full wack of cash for the pair. Close the competition for least knowledgeable statement of the year!!! checked google translate - fincial nothing thought it might be a railway. bluebell your posts need some balance |
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Post by morrisraspass on Aug 1, 2023 12:52:38 GMT 1
You honestly, truly, really believe that he would choose us over WBA? They're a far better bet for furthering his career. In truth, I can't understand why any player would want to join Huddersfield Town because, as far as I can see, there's no real incentive. Year after year of crises, perennial strugglers always tipped for relegation, with just the odd flickering flame of a season in the darkness. Oh, and the town is a dump too. Aye - the likes of Coady, Colwill, O'Brien, Nicholls, Toffolo must all regret coming!!! Massive expectancy at WBA - lots of big names on big wages but theyve done nowt for a couple of years now and am not sure there is any better than here for career progression - other than if the team succeeds. As for no incentive to join - ask NW why he's done it then? He doesnt need the money, the hassle nor would he have signed on again to have zero backing. Everyone is rightly concerned with the lack of depth - but lets be honest...........how many of the exiting players would you have wanted to be mainstays in the first team next season. Also - the window now extends to the end of this month - we are amongst the group waiting for bigger clubs up the foodchain to decide who and where they want to send fringe and young players. I suspect our team come Oct might be 2 or 3 different to that which takes the field on Sat - and thats without injuries. But the town is still a shit hole? |
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Aug 1, 2023 12:53:07 GMT 1
Josh bowler heading to cardiff on loan.
Even a team under a transfer embargo is spending more than us.
Absolute piss take this.
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Post by goodbet on Aug 1, 2023 13:19:42 GMT 1
I wasn't having a go I was just asking a few questions. Before Hoyle we had Davy and I don't think I've ever been as bored with town . To the extent that I stopped going for a bit. Before Davy we had people walking around with buckets . Everyone makes mistakes but in the context of it all the existence of Dean Hoyle has been massively positive for our club . I didn't expect warnock to agree to another season . When he did I assumed he'd been tempted by a war chest that gave him "one last shot". I'm not sure why he pushed his missus to let him have a season of "consolidation" whereby 17th would be seen as a success. So tbh I'm a bit gutted cos I'd got my hopes up . But it is what it is . We can't expect folk to throw money at things just to please us We wouldn't want to come across as "entitled" 😉 Afterall we have been so entitled since we were relegated. |
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Post by ldotm on Aug 1, 2023 13:34:08 GMT 1
We should be all over this You honestly, truly, really believe that he would choose us over WBA? They're a far better bet for furthering his career. In truth, I can't understand why any player would want to join Huddersfield Town because, as far as I can see, there's no real incentive. Year after year of crises, perennial strugglers always tipped for relegation, with just the odd flickering flame of a season in the darkness. Oh, and the town is a dump too. It’s fucking West Brom not Barcelona! West Brom are in financial difficulties, have not been pulling up any trees since they got relegated into this division, oh and guess what.. their town isn’t paradise either. We now have a new owner/project with a manager (albeit short-term) that is proven to get the most out players careers, and can therefore put Maja on a good path. The financial situation is obviously one we lack clarity on right now with how deep Nagles pockets are, how much he’s willing to invest and also how restricted he currently is with FFP. But for a free, we should at least be gauging Maja’s wage expectations and looking to entice the lad to come. This constant berating the club is so boring.. as a fanbase we love to moan that we’ve been labelled as the underdog internally for too long, yet the same fans love to moan about everything that is potentially wrong about the club and how the grass seems greener everywhere else.. Yawn. |
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 1, 2023 14:32:36 GMT 1
Looks like Keiran Phillips to Exeter according to twitter.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 1, 2023 14:33:00 GMT 1
You honestly, truly, really believe that he would choose us over WBA? They're a far better bet for furthering his career. In truth, I can't understand why any player would want to join Huddersfield Town because, as far as I can see, there's no real incentive. Year after year of crises, perennial strugglers always tipped for relegation, with just the odd flickering flame of a season in the darkness. Oh, and the town is a dump too. It’s fucking West Brom not Barcelona! West Brom are in financial difficulties, have not been pulling up any trees since they got relegated into this division, oh and guess what.. their town isn’t paradise either. We now have a new owner/project with a manager (albeit short-term) that is proven to get the most out players careers, and can therefore put Maja on a good path. The financial situation is obviously one we lack clarity on right now with how deep Nagles pockets are, how much he’s willing to invest and also how restricted he currently is with FFP. But for a free, we should at least be gauging Maja’s wage expectations and looking to entice the lad to come. This constant berating the club is so boring.. as a fanbase we love to moan that we’ve been labelled as the underdog internally for too long, yet the same fans love to moan about everything that is potentially wrong about the club and how the grass seems greener everywhere else.. Yawn. Agreed. As I said earlier, I think he'll have better options available to him than either ourselves or WBA. So what? 9 times our of 10 that might be right, but it's worth trying for that 1 time in 10 when you're not. There are always signings where you think, "how did they pull that off?". They pulled it off because they tried, and there was something about the club that appealed to the individual player. |
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