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Post by rockwall on Jul 17, 2023 8:23:14 GMT 1
I took it to mean loan out because I'm guessing it's a couple of the younger players Presume Austerfield and Ayina.
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Post by royrace on Jul 17, 2023 9:07:37 GMT 1
So not only are they looking to flog those who were left behind there's now people who went on tour that Colin wants rid of too. With the subs bench increasing to 9 in the championship, we might not be able to field a full 20 at this rate. I hope we can start making some movement in playing staff before we run out of pre season games to bed them into the team. Yes theres a while of the window left but imagine this is a race, we are wayyyyyy behind other clubs in preparation it seems. A nervous time ahead. It seems pretty ruthless but I think we have little margin on the wage budget. I think we’ll want to clear out everyone that’s deemed surplus to requirements and then see how much that gives us remaining. I think we might get one or two in for the first game but I could see work being done until the end of august. I don’t think Warnock needs his players to bed into lots of complex pressing and styles of play so it’s less of an issue than for previous managers. Exactly, seems like we're 'saving up' to bring in some quality, I guess we just have to be patient. I'd be interested to know how Thomas has been performing, hopefully Neil and Ronnie have got him onside and firing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 9:16:28 GMT 1
I took it to mean loan out because I'm guessing it's a couple of the younger players Presume Austerfield and Ayina. You really can't presume. There were a few players on that tour that Warnock won't have had much time with, or seen in that type of environment, so picking two names is just guesswork and is to be avoided IMHO.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 9:24:39 GMT 1
It seems pretty ruthless but I think we have little margin on the wage budget. I think we’ll want to clear out everyone that’s deemed surplus to requirements and then see how much that gives us remaining. I think we might get one or two in for the first game but I could see work being done until the end of august. I don’t think Warnock needs his players to bed into lots of complex pressing and styles of play so it’s less of an issue than for previous managers. Exactly, seems like we're 'saving up' to bring in some quality, I guess we just have to be patient. I'd be interested to know how Thomas has been performing, hopefully Neil and Ronnie have got him onside and firing. Warnock mentioned him as one of the 'rogues', similar to Koroma, so I think that is going OK. Seeing Sorba playing the silly beggar on the training video and hiding in the mini bus when it was raining and Ron 'helping him' out of the van all looked good. I think he will thrive under Ron & Neil.
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Post by royrace on Jul 17, 2023 9:53:34 GMT 1
Exactly, seems like we're 'saving up' to bring in some quality, I guess we just have to be patient. I'd be interested to know how Thomas has been performing, hopefully Neil and Ronnie have got him onside and firing. Warnock mentioned him as one of the 'rogues', similar to Koroma, so I think that is going OK. Seeing Sorba playing the silly beggar on the training video and hiding in the mini bus when it was raining and Ron 'helping him' out of the van all looked good. I think he will thrive under Ron & Neil. Ooh not seen that, good to hear, sounds promising! I agree, hope NW and RJ are just what he needs. On another note sounds like Blackburn wouldn't be able to afford him now even if they wanted him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 11:51:11 GMT 1
Warnock mentioned him as one of the 'rogues', similar to Koroma, so I think that is going OK. Seeing Sorba playing the silly beggar on the training video and hiding in the mini bus when it was raining and Ron 'helping him' out of the van all looked good. I think he will thrive under Ron & Neil. Ooh not seen that, good to hear, sounds promising! I agree, hope NW and RJ are just what he needs. On another note sounds like Blackburn wouldn't be able to afford him now even if they wanted him. Hopefully that is a short chapter in Sorba's time with us that can be laid to rest. It would be great to see him back to his best.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 17, 2023 12:36:41 GMT 1
Warnock mentioned him as one of the 'rogues', similar to Koroma, so I think that is going OK. Seeing Sorba playing the silly beggar on the training video and hiding in the mini bus when it was raining and Ron 'helping him' out of the van all looked good. I think he will thrive under Ron & Neil. Ooh not seen that, good to hear, sounds promising! I agree, hope NW and RJ are just what he needs. On another note sounds like Blackburn wouldn't be able to afford him now even if they wanted him. About 2m 25 secs in.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 17, 2023 13:48:31 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 17, 2023 15:09:22 GMT 1
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Post by rockwall on Jul 17, 2023 16:44:20 GMT 1
Presume Austerfield and Ayina. You really can't presume. There were a few players on that tour that Warnock won't have had much time with, or seen in that type of environment, so picking two names is just guesswork and is to be avoided IMHO. I meant 2 that he would be looking to send out for a loan spell? What is wrong in saying that? I haven't said anything negative about them so I dont understand why it needs to be avoided?
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 17, 2023 18:05:34 GMT 1
You really can't presume. There were a few players on that tour that Warnock won't have had much time with, or seen in that type of environment, so picking two names is just guesswork and is to be avoided IMHO. I meant 2 that he would be looking to send out for a loan spell? What is wrong in saying that? I haven't said anything negative about them so I dont understand why it needs to be avoided? I think it's cos it may have been construed that you meant those 2 were the ones that hadn't impressed him and could go 🤷
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Post by rockwall on Jul 17, 2023 19:07:49 GMT 1
I meant 2 that he would be looking to send out for a loan spell? What is wrong in saying that? I haven't said anything negative about them so I dont understand why it needs to be avoided? I think it's cos it may have been construed that you meant those 2 were the ones that hadn't impressed him and could go 🤷 I replied to a poster who mentioned players leaving on loan that were down there. Never mind, still, interesting to see who has and has not impressed Neil at the BBQ!
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Post by incognito on Jul 17, 2023 19:14:12 GMT 1
Its a squad and staff social bonding trip with some football attached. Neil talking at more length in a relaxed social setting to some of the squad??? Some do assault courses, some go off to Islands to do a survival with Bear course, Neil goes to Cornwall and has a good chat and a laugh. Was it the pre-season before getting promoted to the Premier League that Wagner took the squad to was it Sweden for some ‘sas who dares wins’ type activities?. The Team spirit of course that season was incredible. Team spirit and players bonding cannot be underestimated. It’s the reason why such as Rotherham continually to over-achieve and prove that budgets and having money to throw around on Players and wages isn’t everything. 100% - it's imperative we get everyone singing from the same hymn sheeps
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 17, 2023 19:15:09 GMT 1
Lovely flick from Harrett for one if his goals
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 21:46:22 GMT 1
Lovely flick from Harrett for one if his goals He looks quick and hungry. Not bad attributes for a striker.
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Post by westislandterrier on Jul 17, 2023 21:52:52 GMT 1
Lovely flick from Harrett for one if his goals He looks quick and hungry. Not bad attributes for a striker. Good that he’s went down the proper life route of quick and hungry - and not the speed and munchi one ! 😉
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Post by Richard1986 on Jul 17, 2023 22:43:26 GMT 1
Like the look of Kyle Hudlin be interested to see if we can make a useful championship player bench option out of him this season. He really needs to be much more aggressive and work harder off the ball though.
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Post by uw2ba on Jul 18, 2023 16:45:21 GMT 1
Anyone know today's friendly score?
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 18, 2023 16:57:46 GMT 1
Anyone know today's friendly score? Bit suspicious that it’s not mentioned in the article on the game!
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Post by hasta el pueblo on Jul 18, 2023 17:01:07 GMT 1
Anyone know today's friendly score?[/quote ] Rumours on Facebook that we lost 4-1
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 18, 2023 17:01:30 GMT 1
Anyone know today's friendly score? Bit suspicious that it’s not mentioned in the article on the game! Behind closed doors games often means an agreement not to disclose score lines.
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Post by efesodje23 on Jul 18, 2023 17:01:32 GMT 1
Let's put it this way. If you thought Leeds beating Barnsley 9-1 behind closed doors on the weekend was amusing, you won't like the score we lost by today.....
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Post by snoopy on Jul 18, 2023 17:03:47 GMT 1
Let's put it this way. If you thought Leeds beating Barnsley 9-1 behind closed doors on the weekend was amusing, you won't like the score we lost by today..... ...
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 18, 2023 17:04:58 GMT 1
Let's put it this way. If you thought Leeds beating Barnsley 9-1 behind closed doors on the weekend was amusing, you won't like the score we lost by today..... Losing today (if we did) will have no more or less impact on our fortunes this season as putting 13 past the scrumpy-swilling, pasty-munching Poldark FC on Saturday.
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Jul 18, 2023 17:11:03 GMT 1
Lost 5 1 I've just been told
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 18, 2023 17:13:37 GMT 1
Lost 5 1 I've just been told I wouldn't read anything into it, its behind closed doors for a reason. Wouldn't shock me if the game was played in quarters , different teams , tactics. The club have done this for the simple reason, that it was going to be a glorfied practise game. Hence not asking fans pay to watch it .
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Post by artysid on Jul 18, 2023 17:17:33 GMT 1
Let's put it this way. If you thought Leeds beating Barnsley 9-1 behind closed doors on the weekend was amusing, you won't like the score we lost by today..... This is the kind of smug post I can't abide. If you know the score, tell us what it was. If you don't know, why post?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 18, 2023 17:27:36 GMT 1
Lost 5 1 I've just been told I wouldn't read anything into it, its behind closed doors for a reason. Wouldn't shock me if the game was played in quarters , different teams , tactics. The club have done this for the simple reason, that it was going to be a glorfied practise game. Hence not asking fans pay to watch it . Not sure if the score is correct but we used 21 players including Yuta who played the final 25 mins (first appearance in 9 months) and Diarra, who is back in pre-season after his internationals.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jul 18, 2023 17:30:39 GMT 1
If we did lose, it’s obviously not the end of the world but I’ll never understand the “you can’t think anything of it” brigade who jump to the rescue when we lose a friendly… You play to win, always, so you should be disappointed if you lose as that means players didn’t perform.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 18, 2023 17:35:11 GMT 1
If we did lose, it’s obviously not the end of the world but I’ll never understand the “you can’t think anything of it” brigade who jump to the rescue when we lose a friendly… You play to win, always, so you should be disappointed if you lose as that means players didn’t perform. I agree winning is very important, its the most important thing. Saying that we thumped tranmere rovers last season in pre season, which meant nothing for a long period of the season.
Warnock will take what he needs from these days, he is vastly experience as we all know. When you have new inexpeirenced head coaches, you start to see x y and z from pre season. Warnock stated we wont even be working on tactical stuff until a week before Plymouth in seriousness .
Warnock has done this over and over , he wont be fooled either way.
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