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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 7, 2023 11:47:31 GMT 1
I thought that this information might be of interest to the public at large so I'll post it here as well as in the 'pinned' HTAFC Memorabilia section (where it will get lost and missed by the vast majority). Tom "Tug" Wilson's medals, shirts, caps, cups and paraphernalia went under the hammer this morning. Here are the hammer prices for each completed auction. Lot no. 902 9ct Gold Division 1 League Championship Winners Medal 1924 £20,000.00on 903 9ct Gold Division 1 League Championship Winners Medal 1925 £12,000.00 904 9ct Gold Division 1 League Championship Winners Medal 1926 £15,000.00 905 15ct Gold 1921-22 F.A.Cup Winners Medal £20,000.00 906 9ct Gold 1919-20 F.A.Cup Runners-Up Medal £2,600.00 907 9ct Gold 1927-28 F.A.Cup Runners-Up Medal £2,600.00 908 9ct Gold 1929-30 F.A.Cup Runners-Up Medal £2,800.00 909 15ct Gold 1921-22 Charity Shield Winners Medal £3,600.00 910 9ct Gold and Enamel 1919-20 2nd Division Runners-Up Medal £1,500.00 911 9ct Gold 1924 Football League Representative Medal £400.00 912 9ct Gold 1925 Football League Representative Medal £400.00 913 9ct Gold 1925 Football League Representative Medal £400.00 914 9ct Gold 1928 Football League Representative Medal £400.00 915 9ct Gold and Enamel 1922-23 Norfolk and Norwich Hospital Cup Medal £380.00 916 9ct Gold and Enamel 1929-30 West Riding County F.A. Senior Cup Medal £800.00 917 9ct Gold and Enamel 1930-31 The Central League Medal £550.00 918 18ct Gold 1921-22 Commemorative F.A.Cup Pocket Watch £2,000.00 919 George V Military Medal for Bravery in the Field £2,800.00 920 9ct Gold and Enamel Medal £550.00 921 Silver and Enamel 1924-25 Huddersfield Infirmary & Victoria Nurses Hospital Cup £320.00 922 1925-26 Silver Two-Handled Trophy £220.00 923 Purple England vs Scotland International Debut Cap, 1927-28 £2,000.00 924 Purple and White Football Association Trial Cap, 1919-20 £240.00 925 Purple and White Football Association Trial Cap, 1923-24 £240.00 926 Purple and White Football Association Trial Cap, 1925-26 £240.00 927 Purple and White Football Association Trial Cap, 1929-30 £240.00 928 Blue and White Huddersfield Town match worn shirt £2,800.00 929 White All Wool England Football League match worn shirt, 1928-29 £700.00 930 Huddersfield Town Official Handbook 1908-1926 £80.00 931 Souvenir Publication Huddersfield Town Association Football Club Souvenir Programme 1925-26 £50.00 932 Huddersfield Town Special Issue 1928 F.A.Cup Souvenir Programme £50.00 933 Huddersfield Town Special Issue 1928 F.A.Cup Souvenir Programme (Different) £50.00 934 Huddersfield Town AFC Ltd. - Coming Of Age Souvenir 1908-09 - 1929-30 £50.00 935 An Official Itinerary and Banquet Menu Card for the 1930 F.A.Cup Final £280.00 936 Banquet Menu Card for the 1930 Huddersfield Town vs Arsenal F.A.Cup Final £650.00 937 1938 Huddersfield Town vs Preston North End F.A.Cup Final Itinerary £190.00 938 Huddersfield Town 1938 F.A.Cup Final Commemoration Dinner Menu £220.00 939 Huddersfield Towns 1920s Song Sheet £35.00 940 An Autograph Album, 1940s £190.00 941 Charlton Athletic vs Burnley 1947 F.A.Cup Final Pirate match programme £130.00 942 A collection of Press photographs of Tom Wilson £400.00 943 Masonic Apron and Certificate £25.00 Total: £98,180.00 ("Buyer's premium" and VAT at this auction raised the hammer prices by 28.8% making the final outlay by all individuals £126,455.84) If you would like to see pictures of each item, visit my website HERE and click each link. |
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Post by ambryboy on Jun 7, 2023 11:55:19 GMT 1
I'd be delighted if the club had bought the majority of these items with a view to displaying them somewhere accessible by supporters. It's about time we promoted our fabulous history with more passion!
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 7, 2023 12:11:42 GMT 1
I'd be delighted if the club had bought the majority of these items with a view to diplaying them somewhere accessible by supporters. It's about time we promoted our fabulous history with more passion! I don't think that this is ever of prime importance to the club.  |
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 7, 2023 12:24:40 GMT 1
I'd be delighted if the club had bought the majority of these items with a view to diplaying them somewhere accessible by supporters. It's about time we promoted our fabulous history with more passion! I don't think that this is ever of prime importance to the club. Things may be on the change.... From Examiner - "Nagle confirmed that he was already aware of the auction and had discussed the possibility of purchasing them, adding: “I am a junkie for this type of thing but whatever I end up with will be donated to the club for the supporters to view and enjoy.” this after he'd publicly written... “Wanted to let [those] interested [know] I have bid on all of the items in the auction. I know there [are] a couple of supporters that said they bid on a few of the items. I outbid all just to claim a position of potentially acquiring all and gifting to the club for what I think should be a museum.” |
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Post by ben1987 on Jun 7, 2023 12:37:21 GMT 1
I'd be delighted if the club had bought the majority of these items with a view to diplaying them somewhere accessible by supporters. It's about time we promoted our fabulous history with more passion! I don't think that this is ever of prime importance to the club. Not sure one man represents the entire club but now he’s not here things like this may change. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 7, 2023 12:49:37 GMT 1
I don't think that this is ever of prime importance to the club. Things may be on the change.... From Examiner - "Nagle confirmed that he was already aware of the auction and had discussed the possibility of purchasing them, adding: “I am a junkie for this type of thing but whatever I end up with will be donated to the club for the supporters to view and enjoy.” this after he'd publicly written... “Wanted to let [those] interested [know] I have bid on all of the items in the auction. I know there [are] a couple of supporters that said they bid on a few of the items. I outbid all just to claim a position of potentially acquiring all and gifting to the club for what I think should be a museum.” This, if true, is amazing news! I'd also love to know where he/the club might intend to house them as currently there is no room/space where it is possible to display objects of interest to the general public. They once tried a tiny glass cabinet in the club shop but that was a dead loss. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 7, 2023 12:53:27 GMT 1
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 7, 2023 12:53:55 GMT 1
And whilst I've no idea who bought what, I do know that Lee Morris won a couple of the trophy cups, so well done to him.  |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 7, 2023 12:55:17 GMT 1
Is it at the ground? Or elsewhere? Would we have the necessary space for something like this? |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 7, 2023 12:55:54 GMT 1
And whilst I've no idea who bought what, I do know that Lee Morris won a couple of the trophy cups, so well done to him. Just wait for Slapps to tell him they relate to League games and not cup games. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 7, 2023 12:57:14 GMT 1
More importantly, why was he known as 'tug'?
Known for a sly tug of the shirt?
Or derived from 'tug boat' maybe? The equivalent of a water carrier, a workhorse type of player.
We all know players didn't foul until the dirty foreigners muddied our beautiful game in the 30s onward. 😉
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 7, 2023 12:59:25 GMT 1
Is it at the ground? Or elsewhere? Would we have the necessary space for something like this? Half a mile at most from the ground, in an old rail station. Memorabilia everywhere, couple of pop up bars selling cans and 2 draft pumps and a live act outside. Don't think we have a similar old building close to house it but it could certainly be done on a more modern scale if we did a proper fanzone. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 7, 2023 13:00:28 GMT 1
More importantly, why was he known as 'tug'? Known for a sly tug of the shirt? Or derived from 'tug boat' maybe? The equivalent of a water carrier, a workhorse type of player. We all know players didn't foul until the dirty foreigners muddied our beautiful game in the 30s onward. 😉 Maybe he had a custom before the game 🫣 |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 7, 2023 13:01:10 GMT 1
More importantly, why was he known as 'tug'? Known for a sly tug of the shirt? Or derived from 'tug boat' maybe? The equivalent of a water carrier, a workhorse type of player. We all know players didn't foul until the dirty foreigners muddied our beautiful game in the 30s onward. 😉 Ha ha! I know you're being irreverent here, but just look up contemporary reports of the 1922 FAC Final. Or even cigarette cards of the time. Viewed as the dirtiest final up to then, with almost zero football played by either side. Contemporary writers expressed no surprise that the game should be decided by a penalty kick right at the death. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 7, 2023 13:12:02 GMT 1
More importantly, why was he known as 'tug'? Known for a sly tug of the shirt? Or derived from 'tug boat' maybe? The equivalent of a water carrier, a workhorse type of player. We all know players didn't foul until the dirty foreigners muddied our beautiful game in the 30s onward. 😉 Maybe he has a custom before the game 🫣 I don't normally object to a bit of puerile joviality, but on this occasion I do. Sorry. Wilson was a big, brave, bloke. Thighs like tree trunks, I've been told. He was one of several Town players of north-eastern mining stock, hard, tough chaps (includes Billy Smith, Clem Stephenson, Harry Raw and others). One of only a handful of footballers to have been awarded the George V Military Medal for Bravery in the Field (one step down from a VC, I believe) - another of his medals which sold today. Keen readers might note that there is no 1930 Runners-Up medal; I think I am correct in saying that he refused to accept his medal because he felt cheated by the officials as Town lost to Arsenal that day. I would also guess that 3Pipe will be close to the mark with the "tugboat" analogy, as in pulling the rest of the team along (he was captain, remember). A true Town legend. |
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Post by k1man999 on Jun 7, 2023 13:14:32 GMT 1
Either buy the rope walk or a purpose built building on the golf range with a drinking establishment etc
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 7, 2023 13:21:48 GMT 1
Either buy the rope walk or a purpose built building on the golf range with a drinking establishment etc Or in a future that rebuilds the North Stand Lower with permanent seating, incorporate a museum/showcase under that. I do like the idea of the golf range and buildings being made useful to something other than a place to hide police vans, its a shame the buildings and associated infrastructure aren't at the opposite end of the range. |
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Post by araucaria on Jun 7, 2023 13:33:00 GMT 1
More importantly, why was he known as 'tug'? Known for a sly tug of the shirt? Or derived from 'tug boat' maybe? The equivalent of a water carrier, a workhorse type of player. We all know players didn't foul until the dirty foreigners muddied our beautiful game in the 30s onward. 😉 Ha ha! I know you're being irreverent here, but just look up contemporary reports of the 1922 FAC Final. Or even cigarette cards of the time. Viewed as the dirtiest final up to then, with almost zero football played by either side. Contemporary writers expressed no surprise that the game should be decided by a penalty kick right at the death. 67th minute in this one, but the foul, like the alleged 1938 one, was said to be outside the box. Incredibly similarities between the two games. Incidentally, I heard the dickhead commentator on ITV say on Saturday that this is the 100th FA Cup final at Wembley. Even if there hadn't been two world wars, he'd still have got it wrong. And there were several finals played at Cardiff, of course. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 7, 2023 13:43:27 GMT 1
It would just be nice for the club to celebrate our history for once.
I don't just mean the Chapman era, the Buxton era and the Warnock era, I mean all of it. Good and bad.
There's never anything about the Andy Beattie promotion, or the Ian Greaves promotion, Peter Jackson's promotion or Simon Grayson's promotion.
Has anyone had as many highs and lows as us?
Most other clubs celebrate their history and their grounds have permanent reminders of that history. We have barely anything and even if we do, it's not visible to the public.
Hopefully Nagle is serious when he talks about celebrating our history and creating a museum. We need it!
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Post by Sio on Jun 7, 2023 13:48:11 GMT 1
It would just be nice for the club to celebrate our history for once. I don't just mean the Chapman era, the Buxton era and the Warnock era, I mean all of it. Good and bad. There's never anything about the Andy Beattie promotion, or the Ian Greaves promotion, Peter Jackson's promotion or Simon Grayson's promotion. Has anyone had as many highs and lows as us? Most other clubs celebrate their history and their grounds have permanent reminders of that history. We have barely anything and even if we do, it's not visible to the public. Hopefully Nagle is serious when he talks about celebrating our history and creating a museum. We need it! This is a nice start to a hopefully developing mentality |
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Post by Wingman on Jun 7, 2023 13:50:04 GMT 1
It would be fantastic to have a Town museum. I went to the National Football Museum in Manchester some years ago when there was a special 100 years of the EFL (I think) exhibition on. Lots of Town items on show. Not that I play it, but if I did and won the Euromillions….well I’d be snapping up all the old memorabilia including Bassingham Terrier ’s fantastic collection and getting it on show for all to see. I can only dream. 💭 |
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Post by ambryboy on Jun 7, 2023 14:14:05 GMT 1
Either buy the rope walk or a purpose built building on the golf range with a drinking establishment etc That was my thought too, the Ropewalk would be great but if too costly perhaps the area around the driving range could be developed into a 'proper' fan zone/area. I hope that our new owner has much more ambition in this regard. |
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Post by ben1987 on Jun 7, 2023 14:39:06 GMT 1
Either buy the rope walk or a purpose built building on the golf range with a drinking establishment etc GAS CLUB. Needs a petition, a group, pressure, whatever it takes. Get the Gas Club back and put it in the hands of the club and town fans. A brilliant drinking establishment at the south end of the ground. |
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Post by ben1987 on Jun 7, 2023 14:58:20 GMT 1
It would just be nice for the club to celebrate our history for once. I don't just mean the Chapman era, the Buxton era and the Warnock era, I mean all of it. Good and bad. There's never anything about the Andy Beattie promotion, or the Ian Greaves promotion, Peter Jackson's promotion or Simon Grayson's promotion. Has anyone had as many highs and lows as us? Most other clubs celebrate their history and their grounds have permanent reminders of that history. We have barely anything and even if we do, it's not visible to the public. Hopefully Nagle is serious when he talks about celebrating our history and creating a museum. We need it! When you hand over that memorabilia to him in a Tesco bag at costa on leeds road tomorrow, ask him to buy the gas club. Immediately. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 7, 2023 15:13:35 GMT 1
It would just be nice for the club to celebrate our history for once. I don't just mean the Chapman era, the Buxton era and the Warnock era, I mean all of it. Good and bad. There's never anything about the Andy Beattie promotion, or the Ian Greaves promotion, Peter Jackson's promotion or Simon Grayson's promotion. Has anyone had as many highs and lows as us? Most other clubs celebrate their history and their grounds have permanent reminders of that history. We have barely anything and even if we do, it's not visible to the public. Hopefully Nagle is serious when he talks about celebrating our history and creating a museum. We need it! When you hand over that memorabilia to him in a Tesco bag at costa on leeds road tomorrow, ask him to buy the gas club. Immediately. If Kev wants my memorabilia he better get his hand in his pocket!  |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jun 7, 2023 15:17:23 GMT 1
More importantly, why was he known as 'tug'? Known for a sly tug of the shirt? Or derived from 'tug boat' maybe? The equivalent of a water carrier, a workhorse type of player. We all know players didn't foul until the dirty foreigners muddied our beautiful game in the 30s onward. 😉 Its an old Naval expression, derived from the nickname of a former First Sea Lord (1909-11) Admiral of the Fleet Sir Arthur Kynvet Wilson, also awarded the VC when fighting with the Naval Brigade at the Battle of El Teb in 1884 in the Sudan during the Mahdi rebellion. Admiral Wilson's nickname reputedly comes from an incident when he repeatedly ordered a battleship to try and come alongside and in exasperation offered her Captain a tug to assist. To this day, if you are in the Navy and your surname is Wilson - you are called Tug - whether you like it or not  |
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Post by royrace on Jun 7, 2023 16:15:01 GMT 1
Either buy the rope walk or a purpose built building on the golf range with a drinking establishment etc GAS CLUB. Needs a petition, a group, pressure, whatever it takes. Get the Gas Club back and put it in the hands of the club and town fans. A brilliant drinking establishment at the south end of the ground. Superb location that's for sure and probably a lot cheaper than the Rope Walk. Dont know anything abut the ownership of either but I would imagine the Rope Walk freehold isnt available or is very expensive whereas maybe the gas club could be purchased and developed. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 7, 2023 16:19:15 GMT 1
Arent we about to own the leasehold of the Ropewalk?
The rumour being the club is effectively going to own the whole KSDL complex?
In which case the Ropewalk would be an ideal location right next to the stadium for some kind of Museum.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 7, 2023 16:28:14 GMT 1
More importantly, why was he known as 'tug'? Known for a sly tug of the shirt? Or derived from 'tug boat' maybe? The equivalent of a water carrier, a workhorse type of player. We all know players didn't foul until the dirty foreigners muddied our beautiful game in the 30s onward. 😉 Its an old Naval expression, derived from the nickname of a former First Sea Lord (1909-11) Admiral of the Fleet Sir Arthur Kynvet Wilson, also awarded the VC when fighting with the Naval Brigade at the Battle of El Teb in 1884 in the Sudan during the Mahdi rebellion. Admiral Wilson's nickname reputedly comes from an incident when he repeatedly ordered a battleship to try and come alongside and in exasperation offered her Captain a tug to assist. To this day, if you are in the Navy and your surname is Wilson - you are called Tug - whether you like it or not Superb knowledge. Glad I asked now. Cheers Keith. |
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Post by ben1987 on Jun 7, 2023 16:35:06 GMT 1
GAS CLUB. Needs a petition, a group, pressure, whatever it takes. Get the Gas Club back and put it in the hands of the club and town fans. A brilliant drinking establishment at the south end of the ground. Superb location that's for sure and probably a lot cheaper than the Rope Walk. Dont know anything abut the ownership of either but I would imagine the Rope Walk freehold isnt available or is very expensive whereas maybe the gas club could be purchased and developed. Rope Walk is/was owned by Greene King and they wanted too much money to rent it off them. Gas club would be cheaper and so much better. Just needs enough of us to make a fuss about it and do something. |
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