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Post by htafcokay on Sept 12, 2023 9:25:31 GMT 1
We'll eventually discover that Kevin's a hell of a lot smarter and genuine than all those who are accusing him of being naive, or skint, or uncommitted, or disingenuous, or whatever else they want to throw at him just because they didn't get what they wanted on deadline day. I hope so. But I think those are legitimate concerns rather than people just being babies about the transfer window. His naivety 100% relates to the nonsense he tweets. Fortunately, it looks like he's learnt his lesson. |
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Post by ram on Sept 12, 2023 10:14:53 GMT 1
After mixing it with the Mountain Lions and Grizzly Bears,he now decides to go back on Twitter?
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Post by Sio on Sept 12, 2023 10:15:50 GMT 1
We'll eventually discover that Kevin's a hell of a lot smarter and genuine than all those who are accusing him of being naive, or skint, or uncommitted, or disingenuous, or whatever else they want to throw at him just because they didn't get what they wanted on deadline day. I hope so. But I think those are legitimate concerns rather than people just being babies about the transfer window. This is exactly it. He has absolutely acted naively in his social media posting - done far more harm than good. Nowt to do with the transfer window which is probably nothing to do with him anyway! Hopefully he's been properly advised since his return from holiday. |
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Post by Melc on Sept 12, 2023 10:30:57 GMT 1
I hope so. But I think those are legitimate concerns rather than people just being babies about the transfer window. His naivety 100% relates to the nonsense he tweets. Fortunately, it looks like he's learnt his lesson. So what nonsense is that exactly? |
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Post by detox on Sept 12, 2023 10:34:51 GMT 1
I think we need to remember that NW is only a temporary manager, so buying players that fit his model of football ..players likely to be on 3 year contracts, would be foolhardy. I'd expect us to be looking for a new manager early 2024 and may well announce him before this season ends. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if we got the new guy before the season ended, so he can transition ready for 2024/5 season.
This will be a longer term appointment so I'm pretty sure we will see a much increased transfer budget available for summer 2024. Spaffing away £m's now is daft given the circumstances, NW knows this as does KN...
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 12, 2023 10:44:34 GMT 1
His naivety 100% relates to the nonsense he tweets. Fortunately, it looks like he's learnt his lesson. So what nonsense is that exactly? Most of the stuff he tweets. In particular his tweets after the Norwich match. It just highlighted his naivety. And away from that, Marston's stuff, telling Town fans to bring their brass knuckles and just general rubbish that he tweets. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 12, 2023 12:31:30 GMT 1
I like Big Kev and think he's going to be good for the club in the long term.
Happy to wait.
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Post by ldotm on Sept 12, 2023 12:40:18 GMT 1
We'll eventually discover that Kevin's a hell of a lot smarter and genuine than all those who are accusing him of being naive, or skint, or uncommitted, or disingenuous, or whatever else they want to throw at him just because they didn't get what they wanted on deadline day. I still believe he has very good intentions with this club, he’s probably already made quite a few mistakes, and will continue to do so. Most successful people make tons of mistakes but what separates them from a lot of unsuccessful people is they are willing to continue and learn from them, if they believe in their vision |
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Post by softboy on Sept 12, 2023 13:17:36 GMT 1
He came in when the club were in serious trouble. There were serious rumours that the club may well go into administration, how true they were I don’t know. He has also said he wants to build a sustaining club and this would be done by growing income not debt. He appears to have put a solid background team and on the playing front he has shifted a lot off the wage bill and appears to have brought in a few quality players, Burzorg on loan. a midfielder from Rovrum for, I believe will eventually cost us over £1m, and a decent back up keeper. He has only been in charge for 3/4 months so not really sure what people want. If people want a owner that is simply going to chuck money in and then pull out when it all goes wrong then simply we have picked the wrong guy.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 12, 2023 13:31:56 GMT 1
He came in when the club were in serious trouble. There were serious rumours that the club may well go into administration, how true they were I don’t know. He has also said he wants to build a sustaining club and this would be done by growing income not debt. He appears to have put a solid background team and on the playing front he has shifted a lot off the wage bill and appears to have brought in a few quality players, Burzorg on loan. a midfielder from Rovrum for, I believe will eventually cost us over £1m, and a decent back up keeper. He has only been in charge for 3/4 months so not really sure what people want. If people want a owner that is simply going to chuck money in and then pull out when it all goes wrong then simply we have picked the wrong guy. People want an improvement on the last owner and for us to progress as a club. Surely that isn't unreasonable? Personally, I think his tweet history, talk of acquiring the ground, new kiosks in the ground, Marston's chicken in the ground, building hotels around the ground and YouTube documentaries are very low priority right now. The main priority has to be what happens at 3pm on a Saturday. I also recognise that I'll be in a minority with that view judging by social media. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 12, 2023 14:37:55 GMT 1
So what nonsense is that exactly? Most of the stuff he tweets. In particular his tweets after the Norwich match. It just highlighted his naivety. And away from that, Marston's stuff, telling Town fans to bring their brass knuckles and just general rubbish that he tweets. I'd say the Norwich tweet is the only mistake he's made on X so far and it was a big one to be fair, he will know to step away from the phone and calm down next time he tweets after a defeat! I find it quite unbelievable that someone as successful and as busy can be arsed but fair play to him if he can and he has a thick enough skin to take some of the horrible comments! |
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Post by royrace on Sept 12, 2023 14:46:15 GMT 1
He came in when the club were in serious trouble. There were serious rumours that the club may well go into administration, how true they were I don’t know. He has also said he wants to build a sustaining club and this would be done by growing income not debt. He appears to have put a solid background team and on the playing front he has shifted a lot off the wage bill and appears to have brought in a few quality players, Burzorg on loan. a midfielder from Rovrum for, I believe will eventually cost us over £1m, and a decent back up keeper. He has only been in charge for 3/4 months so not really sure what people want. If people want a owner that is simply going to chuck money in and then pull out when it all goes wrong then simply we have picked the wrong guy. By all accounts that was a situation concocted in order to get past an impasse in the negotiation for the share transfer, I'm pleased he's bought the club but it's not correct to talk about the deal like he came in and saved the club IMO. He's obviously planning on building slowly which is fair enough but its a dangerous game when the squad looks so weak that we could end up in another relegation battle. Way too early to tell whether he'll be good for the club, some very positive signs, particularly around the type of person he is, but also some big red flags. I keep meaning to watch the Wrexham documentary, you do wonder whether there will be any similarities albeit with them starting from a much lower position and a smaller club. I think the pair of them might be worth a lot more than Kev too but not sure. Be interesting to see what their ultimate goals are. |
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 12, 2023 14:55:10 GMT 1
He came in when the club were in serious trouble. There were serious rumours that the club may well go into administration, how true they were I don’t know. He has also said he wants to build a sustaining club and this would be done by growing income not debt. He appears to have put a solid background team and on the playing front he has shifted a lot off the wage bill and appears to have brought in a few quality players, Burzorg on loan. a midfielder from Rovrum for, I believe will eventually cost us over £1m, and a decent back up keeper. He has only been in charge for 3/4 months so not really sure what people want. If people want a owner that is simply going to chuck money in and then pull out when it all goes wrong then simply we have picked the wrong guy. He's obviously planning on building slowly which is fair enough but its a dangerous game when the squad looks so weak that we could end up in another relegation battle. Way too early to tell whether he'll be good for the club, some very positive signs, particularly around the type of person he is, but also some big red flags. I keep meaning to watch the Wrexham documentary, you do wonder whether there will be any similarities albeit with them starting from a much lower position and a smaller club. I think the pair of them might be worth a lot more than Kev too but not sure. Be interesting to see what their ultimate goals are. Some knobhead on Twitter tried telling me that the only reason we were still in the Championship was because of Kevin Nagle. There was me thinking it was Neil Warnock. |
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Post by softboy on Sept 12, 2023 15:25:53 GMT 1
What does ‘by all acounts’ mean?
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 12, 2023 16:18:24 GMT 1
Most of the stuff he tweets. In particular his tweets after the Norwich match. It just highlighted his naivety. And away from that, Marston's stuff, telling Town fans to bring their brass knuckles and just general rubbish that he tweets. I'd say the Norwich tweet is the only mistake he's made on X so far and it was a big one to be fair, he will know to step away from the phone and calm down next time he tweets after a defeat! I find it quite unbelievable that someone as successful and as busy can be arsed but fair play to him if he can and he has a thick enough skin to take some of the horrible comments! Not even sure that the Norwich tweet was as big a mistake as its made out to be. He's said he's not directly involved in the football side of things and employs better more knowledgeable people to run that...so I take his outburst in that instance closer to a "fan" type reaction rather than a "I'm your boss, and I'm slating you" type outburst. As a fan, everything he wrote was more than reasonable - and in fact, I like it, he's barely been here 10mins, didn't know who Hudds Town was 6 months ago, and he seems to care and be passionate about this club in a sporting sense already. It's a good sign. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 12, 2023 16:51:18 GMT 1
To be fair to kev on this one, is his inteeraction twitter or X or whatever the hell its called these days that bad?
Remember Hoyle and PH made so many foot in mouth comments in person etc, i think its jsut part of the course of having a owner. Who is trying to interact with fans, where as other clubs owners don't. Therefore you never get a gaf or "stupid" comment / tweet - Man city for example has anyone ever heard their owner even say anything, let alone daft or otherwise.
Thinking Kevin is the only one to say anything daft is crazy, Hoyle would come out with a stupid statment on nearly a yearly basis - "we wont sleepwalk into releagation" - last season in his first monthly update "this squad is better than last season" to name just two off the top of my head. As well as claiming that Kasumu although i like him, is better than LOB was madness.
Kevin is trying to get to know people, he will make errors of judgement it happenes, but at least he is trying. Fans would be complaing if he didn't seeing as though he lives across the pond.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 12, 2023 17:07:05 GMT 1
This got deleted last night How embarrassing direct messaging him. That fan needs to grow up. |
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 12, 2023 17:15:34 GMT 1
To be fair to kev on this one, is his inteeraction twitter or X or whatever the hell its called these days that bad? Remember Hoyle and PH made so many foot in mouth comments in person etc, i think its jsut part of the course of having a owner. Who is trying to interact with fans, where as other clubs owners don't. Therefore you never get a gaf or "stupid" comment / tweet - Man city for example has anyone ever heard their owner even say anything, let alone daft or otherwise. Thinking Kevin is the only one to say anything daft is crazy, Hoyle would come out with a stupid statment on nearly a yearly basis - "we wont sleepwalk into releagation" - last season in his first monthly update "this squad is better than last season" to name just two off the top of my head. As well as claiming that Kasumu although i like him, is better than LOB was madness. Kevin is trying to get to know people, he will make errors of judgement it happenes, but at least he is trying. Fans would be complaing if he didn't seeing as though he lives across the pond. What else was he supposed to say? "Yeah we've just signed him, but he's nowhere near as good as the bloke he's replaced". Sure that would have done his confidence the world of good... |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 12, 2023 17:19:38 GMT 1
To be fair to kev on this one, is his inteeraction twitter or X or whatever the hell its called these days that bad? Remember Hoyle and PH made so many foot in mouth comments in person etc, i think its jsut part of the course of having a owner. Who is trying to interact with fans, where as other clubs owners don't. Therefore you never get a gaf or "stupid" comment / tweet - Man city for example has anyone ever heard their owner even say anything, let alone daft or otherwise. Thinking Kevin is the only one to say anything daft is crazy, Hoyle would come out with a stupid statment on nearly a yearly basis - "we wont sleepwalk into releagation" - last season in his first monthly update "this squad is better than last season" to name just two off the top of my head. As well as claiming that Kasumu although i like him, is better than LOB was madness. Kevin is trying to get to know people, he will make errors of judgement it happenes, but at least he is trying. Fans would be complaing if he didn't seeing as though he lives across the pond. What else was he supposed to say? "Yeah we've just signed him, but he's nowhere near as good as the bloke he's replaced". Sure that would have done his confidence the world of good... The point i was making is, that every owner who talks , is a owner who at some point will put there foot in their mouth. As a owner you do not have to talk about anything if you decide you don't want to. If you decide you want to, then the more times you do, the more chance there is of a mess up. That is the point. |
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Post by swam4mwg on Sept 12, 2023 17:21:17 GMT 1
Owners managers and players on social media. They have as much right as anyone to be on it, but are more open to critism and at times even abuse.
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Post by royrace on Sept 12, 2023 18:07:10 GMT 1
What does ‘by all acounts’ mean? "according to what one has heard or read" |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 13, 2023 8:32:02 GMT 1
He came in when the club were in serious trouble. There were serious rumours that the club may well go into administration, how true they were I don’t know. He has also said he wants to build a sustaining club and this would be done by growing income not debt. He appears to have put a solid background team and on the playing front he has shifted a lot off the wage bill and appears to have brought in a few quality players, Burzorg on loan. a midfielder from Rovrum for, I believe will eventually cost us over £1m, and a decent back up keeper. He has only been in charge for 3/4 months so not really sure what people want. If people want a owner that is simply going to chuck money in and then pull out when it all goes wrong then simply we have picked the wrong guy. Personally, I think his tweet history, talk of acquiring the ground, new kiosks in the ground, Marston's chicken in the ground, building hotels around the ground and YouTube documentaries are very low priority right now. The main priority has to be what happens at 3pm on a Saturday. Do you think he should be playing up front? Or do you think he should only be tweeting about the match and passing his judgement on the performance? He's the owner of the club, he's very arms length from what happens at 3pm on Saturday. What he can quickly influence is all the other off field stuff that gives us a better chance of bringing in more money, to build a stronger team that has more chance of winning at 3pm on a Saturday. It's really easy to just turn up for the match and not be interested in the other stuff for the rest of the week if that's what you want. |
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 13, 2023 8:40:08 GMT 1
Personally, I think his tweet history, talk of acquiring the ground, new kiosks in the ground, Marston's chicken in the ground, building hotels around the ground and YouTube documentaries are very low priority right now. The main priority has to be what happens at 3pm on a Saturday. Do you think he should be playing up front? Or do you think he should only be tweeting about the match and passing his judgement on the performance? He's the owner of the club, he's very arms length from what happens at 3pm on Saturday. What he can quickly influence is all the other off field stuff that gives us a better chance of bringing in more money, to build a stronger team that has more chance of winning at 3pm on a Saturday. It's really easy to just turn up for the match and not be interested in the other stuff for the rest of the week if that's what you want. I think he needs to keep his gob shut and let Neil Warnock get on with it. |
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 16, 2023 22:56:38 GMT 1
I am really not sure about Nagle.
Time will of course tell.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 16, 2023 23:38:29 GMT 1
Has he stopped tweeting?
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 17, 2023 0:19:45 GMT 1
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Post by ibby on Sept 17, 2023 0:55:04 GMT 1
Nagle cant trust him after all.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 17, 2023 1:10:57 GMT 1
The idiots @ing him are in overdrive. |
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 17, 2023 1:16:48 GMT 1
The idiots @ing him are in overdrive. Haven't looked. I muted him after the Norwich game. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 17, 2023 1:23:23 GMT 1
The idiots @ing him are in overdrive. Haven't looked. I muted him after the Norwich game. I was on a flight. That’s my excuse! |
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