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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 24, 2023 11:27:58 GMT 1
They did it at the Giants match the other week. Seen afew premier league teams doing it lately aswell.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 11:36:41 GMT 1
A light show? Maybe if they brought back something like Rooftop Gardens light show back in the 1980's, then I might be tempted to get there a bit earlier than 5 mins before the kick off... I'm going to get shot down in flames here, but this fans experience gubbins, I don't get it. It's the 90 mins on the pitch that do most for the fans experience. Toilet facilities are more than adequate, catering is as hit & miss as it's always been, but it's the football that's important for me. Whilst I completely agree with you and htafcokay about the on-pitch stuff being most important, there's a lot of fans who make a full day of it. We used to get into Huddersfield just after lunchtime for a 3pm kickoff, Peacock or Town, McDs or Burger King and then drinks after. Fair enough, I get that, but you wouldn't go into the ground at lunchtime would you? |
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Post by Randy Watson on Oct 24, 2023 11:43:53 GMT 1
And yet you could care enough to comment, as though flashing some lights on and off (which there's no indication that its even going to happen!) is going to reduce the ability to do the stuff you do care about! I couldn't care less about beer dispensing machines in a stadium...I'm not going to jump on that discussion and diss their very existence! I'd rather they concentrated on more important matters, but that's just me. We know |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 24, 2023 11:45:13 GMT 1
Burnley last season
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 24, 2023 11:50:50 GMT 1
Light shows. Can someone explain the point of them in the context of a football match?
You occasionally see the pundits caught out by them, but you also see their faces, whichoften display WTF expressions.
Not for me, but I can see the appeal for some of the audience.
I still question why some clubs are trying to compete with one another with this sort of stuff though. I’m not going to the circus where an intrinsic part of my ticket price might be a light show.
Anyway, does anyone know where I can park me De Lorean safely at the ground tonight?
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Post by midlander on Oct 24, 2023 11:59:53 GMT 1
A light show? Maybe if they brought back something like Rooftop Gardens light show back in the 1980's, then I might be tempted to get there a bit earlier than 5 mins before the kick off... I'm going to get shot down in flames here, but this fans experience gubbins, I don't get it. It's the 90 mins on the pitch that do most for the fans experience. Toilet facilities are more than adequate, catering is as hit & miss as it's always been, but it's the football that's important for me. Oh, don't be so negative  But I agree, I don't get it either. If you're in the ground more than 10 or 15 minutes before kick-off, there's something wrong with you. But it is all linked, Lee. The club has to grow its revenue streams as they are abysmal compared to the majority. They need to get fans down to the ground and staying down there to spend more money. Like you, I am ultimately only bothered about what happens on the pitch and other than a bottle of coke for my lad, I don't spend any other money down there. To enable us to move forwards though, they need to entice folk like me and you to be down there longer and parting with some more money. Only other way to repidly.increase revenue is to hike the price of tickets and we both know how that will be received when it inevitably happens. We need better quality players so the product on the pitch is better but in the meantime, we do need other avenues of income increasing. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 12:03:02 GMT 1
Oh, don't be so negative But I agree, I don't get it either. If you're in the ground more than 10 or 15 minutes before kick-off, there's something wrong with you. But it is all linked, Lee. The club has to grow its revenue streams as they are abysmal compared to the majority. They need to get fans down to the ground and staying down there to spend more money. Like you, I am ultimately only bothered about what happens on the pitch and other than a bottle of coke for my lad, I don't spend any other money down there. To enable us to move forwards though, they need to entice folk like me and you to be down there longer and parting with some more money. Only other way to repidly.increase revenue is to hike the price of tickets and we both know how that will be received when it inevitably happens. We need better quality players so the product on the pitch is better but in the meantime, we do need other avenues of income increasing. I don't think it's linked at all. A light show is perhaps one of the most pointless ideas someone has ever come up with. How many people are realistically going to get into the ground early just so they can see the floodlights turning on and off for a couple of minutes? Perhaps I'm being a dinosaur here but I just can't see what difference it makes? |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 12:08:51 GMT 1
But it is all linked, Lee. The club has to grow its revenue streams as they are abysmal compared to the majority. They need to get fans down to the ground and staying down there to spend more money. Like you, I am ultimately only bothered about what happens on the pitch and other than a bottle of coke for my lad, I don't spend any other money down there. To enable us to move forwards though, they need to entice folk like me and you to be down there longer and parting with some more money. Only other way to repidly.increase revenue is to hike the price of tickets and we both know how that will be received when it inevitably happens. We need better quality players so the product on the pitch is better but in the meantime, we do need other avenues of income increasing. I don't think it's linked at all. A light show is perhaps one of the most pointless ideas someone has ever come up with. How many people are realistically going to get into the ground early just so they can see the floodlights turning on and off for a couple of minutes? Perhaps I'm being a dinosaur here but I just can't see what difference it makes? You'll be able to see it on the way down anyway, it's not like they can box it in 😁 |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 24, 2023 12:09:26 GMT 1
I'd be up for a light show if it were done mid-game, just as the away side are breaking at pace...
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Post by midlander on Oct 24, 2023 12:10:05 GMT 1
If it is done well, it can be good. Have been to a few NY Red Bull games where they do a light, music and firework show about twenty mins after the game. About three quarters of the stadium stay in for it as well. Town may not even do a light show, but if they did, it would appeal to some.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 12:10:41 GMT 1
They did it at the Giants match the other week. Seen afew premier league teams doing it lately aswell. But Rugby League fans can do the tackle count on the fingers of one hand, of course they're going to be impressed by someone turning the light switch on and off 😉 |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 24, 2023 12:11:25 GMT 1
I don't think it's linked at all. A light show is perhaps one of the most pointless ideas someone has ever come up with. How many people are realistically going to get into the ground early just so they can see the floodlights turning on and off for a couple of minutes? Perhaps I'm being a dinosaur here but I just can't see what difference it makes? You'll be able to see it on the way down anyway, it's not like they can box it in 😁 They'll install massive 80ft high retractable screens from the stands so that you can only witness it in the ground. I reckon the £32m to engineer that solution will be paid back somewhere around 2075/76 season... |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 24, 2023 12:13:04 GMT 1
I think we've lost our collective heads on here for the last 2 pages or so... :-)
Roll on 7.45 tonight, pork pie in a flask & hopefully 3pts to warm us all up like the Ready Brek kids on the journey home...
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 24, 2023 12:17:27 GMT 1
I'd be up for a light show if it were done mid-game, just as the away side are breaking at pace... I swear they did that at Bolton away a few years back, couldn’t see anything other than glare when we were attacking! |
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Post by mosher on Oct 24, 2023 13:06:35 GMT 1
Whilst I completely agree with you and htafcokay about the on-pitch stuff being most important, there's a lot of fans who make a full day of it. We used to get into Huddersfield just after lunchtime for a 3pm kickoff, Peacock or Town, McDs or Burger King and then drinks after. Fair enough, I get that, but you wouldn't go into the ground at lunchtime would you? Hell no, we don't even do the big pre-match routine anymore, usually a few round one of our houses and then straight to match. We generally get there about 2.45 now. |
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Post by sabailand on Oct 24, 2023 13:34:58 GMT 1
If it is done well, it can be good. Have been to a few NY Red Bull games where they do a light, music and firework show about twenty mins after the game. About three quarters of the stadium stay in for it as well. Town may not even do a light show, but if they did, it would appeal to some. Different fan culture too i suppose, i would imagine most town fans cant wait to get out of the place after a defeat, mind you people still leave 10 minutes from the end during exiting games. |
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Post by midlander on Oct 24, 2023 13:54:49 GMT 1
If it is done well, it can be good. Have been to a few NY Red Bull games where they do a light, music and firework show about twenty mins after the game. About three quarters of the stadium stay in for it as well. Town may not even do a light show, but if they did, it would appeal to some. Different fan culture too i suppose, i would imagine most town fans cant wait to get out of the place after a defeat, mind you people still leave 10 minutes from the end during exiting games. True with the fan culture differences towards sport in general over there. They do tend to put a lot more effort into engaging with fans on a matchday though and this is certainly an area that Nagle seems keen to replicate. |
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Post by canterburyterrier on Oct 24, 2023 14:07:45 GMT 1
And yet you could care enough to comment, as though flashing some lights on and off (which there's no indication that its even going to happen!) is going to reduce the ability to do the stuff you do care about! I couldn't care less about beer dispensing machines in a stadium...I'm not going to jump on that discussion and diss their very existence! I'd rather they concentrated on more important matters, but that's just me. What important matters? How do you know they aren't being addressed in the background? |
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Post by Sparrow on Oct 24, 2023 14:07:56 GMT 1
And yet you could care enough to comment, as though flashing some lights on and off (which there's no indication that its even going to happen!) is going to reduce the ability to do the stuff you do care about! I couldn't care less about beer dispensing machines in a stadium...I'm not going to jump on that discussion and diss their very existence! I'd rather they concentrated on more important matters, but that's just me. And what are more important matter in your opinion, if you don't mind me asking? If it's the playing squad, the lack of a proven goal scorer, ball playing midfielder and a couple more quality players to improve the first 11 & overall squad, there is not a lot they can actually do about the playing squad right now. The squad is the squad until 1st January, when there may be some ins and outs and they might be able to do something. DM is doing what he can with the squad he has. I am sure that Mark Cartwright and others are currently concentrating and working hard every day on trying to find players that will improve the first 11 and the squad as a whole. So whilst DM is concentrating on improving the individual players, team and squad that he currently has, and MC & his team are concentrating on finding potential signings for January and the summer transfer window, should others at the club do nothing to try and improve the club as whole? |
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Post by Sparrow on Oct 24, 2023 14:20:14 GMT 1
A light show? Maybe if they brought back something like Rooftop Gardens light show back in the 1980's, then I might be tempted to get there a bit earlier than 5 mins before the kick off... I'm going to get shot down in flames here, but this fans experience gubbins, I don't get it. It's the 90 mins on the pitch that do most for the fans experience. Toilet facilities are more than adequate, catering is as hit & miss as it's always been, but it's the football that's important for me. Whilst I agree to some extent, there will be a number of fans that 'buy in' to the whole fan experience gubbins. Like you, the fan experience isn't for me. I'm not bothered for a light show or drinks and grub before a match, with a live band or DJ playing. I go to watch the football and hopefully see Town win. But there will most definitely be a lot, and a growing number, that find the fan experience an enjoyable thing. There was a time when non of us were bothered with a mobile phone...."what do I want with a Bloody mobile phone" now loads are on them pretty much all through a footy match. Times change and so do people. The match day experience and fan experience is wanted by some and that number will only grow. It's a good thing that Town are trying to tap into this. In a few years time, there will literally be thousands getting down to the ground hours before kick off and staying afterwards to enjoy the match day / fan experience. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 14:28:18 GMT 1
I'd rather they concentrated on more important matters, but that's just me. What important matters? How do you know they aren't being addressed in the background? How do you know that they are? If you're so bothered, get down there early and watch your light show. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 14:31:00 GMT 1
I'd rather they concentrated on more important matters, but that's just me. And what are more important matter in your opinion, if you don't mind me asking? If it's the playing squad, the lack of a proven goal scorer, ball playing midfielder and a couple more quality players to improve the first 11 & overall squad, there is not a lot they can actually do about the playing squad right now. The squad is the squad until 1st January, when there may be some ins and outs and they might be able to do something. DM is doing what he can with the squad he has. I am sure that Mark Cartwright and others are currently concentrating and working hard every day on trying to find players that will improve the first 11 and the squad as a whole. So whilst DM is concentrating on improving the individual players, team and squad that he currently has, and MC & his team are concentrating on finding potential signings for January and the summer transfer window, should others at the club do nothing to try and improve the club as whole? The ONLY thing that really matters is what happens on the pitch. I'd rather they spent some time bringing in more revenue to spend on players rather than concentrating on pointless gimmicks that make no difference whatsoever. How is flashing the floodlights on and off before the game improving the club? Or playing music when we score? |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 14:33:48 GMT 1
There are larger issues at the club, that is plain for all to see. But the larger issues take time; months for a lot.
That does not mean minor, and even unimportant, changes or trials shouldn't be pushed to one side.
Whether it is happening or not, a light show; which I personally find a little cringey, for some people is a bit of light entertainment.
Major on field issues can't really be sorted until January now.
Any little changes until then can be welcomed. If they don't work, so be it.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 24, 2023 14:37:26 GMT 1
A light show? Maybe if they brought back something like Rooftop Gardens light show back in the 1980's, then I might be tempted to get there a bit earlier than 5 mins before the kick off... I'm going to get shot down in flames here, but this fans experience gubbins, I don't get it. It's the 90 mins on the pitch that do most for the fans experience. Toilet facilities are more than adequate, catering is as hit & miss as it's always been, but it's the football that's important for me. Whilst I agree to some extent, there will be a number of fans that 'buy in' to the whole fan experience gubbins. Like you, the fan experience isn't for me. I'm not bothered for a light show or drinks and grub before a match, with a live band or DJ playing. I go to watch the football and hopefully see Town win. But there will most definitely be a lot, and a growing number, that find the fan experience an enjoyable thing. There was a time when non of us were bothered with a mobile phone...."what do I want with a Bloody mobile phone" now loads are on them pretty much all through a footy match. Times change and so do people. The match day experience and fan experience is wanted by some and that number will only grow. It's a good thing that Town are trying to tap into this. In a few years time, there will literally be thousands getting down to the ground hours before kick off and staying afterwards to enjoy the match day / fan experience.Apart from a few dozen DATM'ers... ;-) I did say on other posts I can understand that there will be an audience for these things, but it'll be more family related, younger kids etc. If that sort of thing gets them hooked to HTFC & it allows them to mature into miserable buggers like myself, then I'm happy with that. |
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Post by Sparrow on Oct 24, 2023 14:51:27 GMT 1
And what are more important matter in your opinion, if you don't mind me asking? If it's the playing squad, the lack of a proven goal scorer, ball playing midfielder and a couple more quality players to improve the first 11 & overall squad, there is not a lot they can actually do about the playing squad right now. The squad is the squad until 1st January, when there may be some ins and outs and they might be able to do something. DM is doing what he can with the squad he has. I am sure that Mark Cartwright and others are currently concentrating and working hard every day on trying to find players that will improve the first 11 and the squad as a whole. So whilst DM is concentrating on improving the individual players, team and squad that he currently has, and MC & his team are concentrating on finding potential signings for January and the summer transfer window, should others at the club do nothing to try and improve the club as whole? The ONLY thing that really matters is what happens on the pitch. I'd rather they spent some time bringing in more revenue to spend on players rather than concentrating on pointless gimmicks that make no difference whatsoever. How is flashing the floodlights on and off before the game improving the club? Or playing music when we score? The ideas around flashing the floodlight and playing music when we score are idea's that form part of improving the match day / fan experience. The idea being that more fans attend and spend more money.......... If more fans attend matches and fans are spending more money at matches, that all contributes to more revenue to spend on players. They are trying to buy the stadium so they can develop the site and generate significantly more revenue....But that will take a lot of time. We have some Potentially talented youngsters at the club, that we can hopefully develop and then sell for big fees, that can then, hopefully, be re-invested into the squad....Sell 1 players and buy 3 that improve the squad......But that player development takes time. They have employed a Director of Global Brand to try and drive revenues by improving our global brand - I'm guessing mostly into the American market - but that brand development and additional revenues it can bring takes time. Whilst working on the big ticket stuff that could help generate additional millions, but take a long time to implement, is it not worthwhile trying a few things that help get fans to the ground a little early every match and spending a few extra pennies? |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 14:55:04 GMT 1
The ONLY thing that really matters is what happens on the pitch. I'd rather they spent some time bringing in more revenue to spend on players rather than concentrating on pointless gimmicks that make no difference whatsoever. How is flashing the floodlights on and off before the game improving the club? Or playing music when we score? If more fans attend matches and fans are spending more money at matches, that all contributes to more revenue to spend on players. They are trying to buy the stadium so they can develop the site and generate significantly more revenue....But that will take a lot of time. We have some Potentially talented youngsters at the club, that we can hopefully develop and then sell for big fees, that can then, hopefully, be re-invested into the squad....Sell 1 players and buy 3 that improve the squad......But that player development takes time. They have employed a Director of Global Brand to try and drive revenues by improving our global brand - I'm guessing mostly into the American market - but that brand development and additional revenues it can bring takes time. Whilst working on the big ticket stuff that could help generate additional millions, but take a long time to implement, is it not worthwhile trying a few things that help get fans to the ground a little early every match and spending a few extra pennies? How? How are some flashing lights going to get people to spend more money? |
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Post by ebargum on Oct 24, 2023 14:56:01 GMT 1
I'd rather they concentrated on more important matters, but that's just me. What important matters? How do you know they aren't being addressed in the background? He doesn't. He's just continuing to belittle everything the club does or might do. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 15:06:34 GMT 1
What important matters? How do you know they aren't being addressed in the background? He doesn't. He's just continuing to belittle everything the club does or might do. Oh, here he is, the poster that contributes fuck all. |
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Post by mosher on Oct 24, 2023 15:22:40 GMT 1
He doesn't. He's just continuing to belittle everything the club does or might do. Oh, here he is, the poster that contributes fuck all. I'd just ignore him mate, he obviously doesn't read EVERYTHING you post if he thinks you ONLY post negativity. Just because you distrust Nagle (up to press) and thought Corberan's football was shit (I 100% agree even if it won games) and preferred King Colin to stay (as did we all) that makes everything you post belittling the club. Or that's what he/she appears to think anyway. |
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Post by Sparrow on Oct 24, 2023 15:59:08 GMT 1
The ideas around flashing the floodlight and playing music when we score are idea's that form part of improving the match day / fan experience. The idea being that more fans attend and spend more money..........If more fans attend matches and fans are spending more money at matches, that all contributes to more revenue to spend on players. They are trying to buy the stadium so they can develop the site and generate significantly more revenue....But that will take a lot of time. We have some Potentially talented youngsters at the club, that we can hopefully develop and then sell for big fees, that can then, hopefully, be re-invested into the squad....Sell 1 players and buy 3 that improve the squad......But that player development takes time. They have employed a Director of Global Brand to try and drive revenues by improving our global brand - I'm guessing mostly into the American market - but that brand development and additional revenues it can bring takes time. Whilst working on the big ticket stuff that could help generate additional millions, but take a long time to implement, is it not worthwhile trying a few things that help get fans to the ground a little early every match and spending a few extra pennies? How? How are some flashing lights going to get people to spend more money? In isolation they are not.....But it's all part and parcel of trying to improve the match day experience / fan experience and increase the number of fans that attend matches, come early and spend money. They are trying to do a number of small things to try and improve the match day experience / fan experience. Which as a whole, it is hoped, will go some way to increasing the number of fans attending and the amount of money the fans spend at matches. It's a very small piece of a puzzle they are trying to put together, to generate more revenues. The more revenue we generate, the bigger transfer budget we can have. The bigger transfer budget we have, hopefully, the better players we can buy, which hopefully leads to a better team and thus, hopefully, better performance on the pitch. Which is ultimately what all of us care about the most. As someone saying the only thing that matters to them is the performance on the pitch, then surely you should be applauding the club trying to do things that will increase revenue....And ultimately the available transfer budget. Flashing lights won't increase revenues in isolation, but they are a piece of a much much much larger puzzle. |
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