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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 19:37:52 GMT 1
A light show? Maybe if they brought back something like Rooftop Gardens light show back in the 1980's, then I might be tempted to get there a bit earlier than 5 mins before the kick off... I'm going to get shot down in flames here, but this fans experience gubbins, I don't get it. It's the 90 mins on the pitch that do most for the fans experience. Toilet facilities are more than adequate, catering is as hit & miss as it's always been, but it's the football that's important for me. The only time I saw the Rooftops light show, the following day, the neighbours lost to axteam in blue and white stripes in the FA cup semi-final. The DJ was banging on about them all night, with me and my mate taking the piss out of him. Hopefully they'll lose to a team that wear blue and white stripes this weekend too.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Oct 24, 2023 21:55:02 GMT 1
Another absolutely terrible owner to add to the list. Why can’t we just be bought by somebody with some footballing sense and a few quid behind them to help support that.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Oct 24, 2023 22:09:56 GMT 1
Another absolutely terrible owner to add to the list. Why can’t we just be bought by somebody with some footballing sense and a few quid behind them to help support that. Edwards and Cartwright are getting away with murder here.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 22:13:11 GMT 1
Another absolutely terrible owner to add to the list. Why can’t we just be bought by somebody with some footballing sense and a few quid behind them to help support that. Terrible owner? Absolutely not. A few quid? Wish a 'few quid' was my worth. Wrong appointment? Looking likely. Mistakes get made by all owners.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 22:15:28 GMT 1
Another absolutely terrible owner to add to the list. Why can’t we just be bought by somebody with some footballing sense and a few quid behind them to help support that. Terrible owner? Absolutely not. A few quid? Wish a 'few quid' was my worth. Wrong appointment? Looking likely. Mistakes get made by all owners. First big decision and he's made a complete tits of it.
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Post by ldr on Oct 24, 2023 22:19:14 GMT 1
Talking loudly on Twitter (X) again. I’m not a fan of this.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 22:19:56 GMT 1
I wish he'd read the room and stop fucking tweeting.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 22:20:32 GMT 1
Terrible owner? Absolutely not. A few quid? Wish a 'few quid' was my worth. Wrong appointment? Looking likely. Mistakes get made by all owners. First big decision and he's made a complete tits of it. Wouldn't class him as a 'terrible' owner though.
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Post by lankystreak on Oct 24, 2023 22:22:11 GMT 1
Terrible owner? Absolutely not. A few quid? Wish a 'few quid' was my worth. Wrong appointment? Looking likely. Mistakes get made by all owners. First big decision and he's made a complete tits of it. 100% agreed. Its not just the decision that's the issue though, the main issues are: 1, The motivation behind the decision which was 100% ego driven and had fuck all to do with what was best for Town. 2, The complete lies afterwards that this was all part of the plan and that Moore was some once in a lifetime candidate. I would rather we were in the Conference North with fan ownership and 100% honesty than have this chancer or any other like him at the helm.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 22:24:12 GMT 1
First big decision and he's made a complete tits of it. Wouldn't class him as a 'terrible' owner though. Not yet.
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Post by harris on Oct 24, 2023 22:24:23 GMT 1
Talking loudly on Twitter (X) again. I’m not a fan of this. Don’t mind seeing him accept it’s not good enough and let the fans vent tbh. Our squad is good enough to stay up but is imbalanced, light on numbers and a severe under investment for years is taking its toll. I fear he’s been told by Warnock, Edwards, Cartwright and others that it’s good enough to be challenging at the top end. It’s not. And defeats like this will happen because of it. The only way to push on is to put money in, but over time, we knew this season was going to be a slog even if we still had Warnock.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 22:26:02 GMT 1
Talking loudly on Twitter (X) again. I’m not a fan of this. Again though... what's he saying wrong? An unacceptable performance?? It was. Our supporters deserve much more? We do. We have to do better, from the boardroom to the pitch, and it starts with me. It does start with him. You want to vent to someone? Can’t blame you. Vent to him then instead of eachother on here. If you are genuinely that bothered email him!
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 24, 2023 22:27:04 GMT 1
For anyone who hasn't seen the tweet, it was:
That was bullcrap. Come on Huddersfield Terriers Fans, direct your anger at me, I can take it cos I'm a big strong rich fucker. Marstons chicken!
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Post by harris on Oct 24, 2023 22:28:01 GMT 1
First big decision and he's made a complete tits of it. 100% agreed. Its not just the decision that's the issue though, the main issues are: 1, The motivation behind the decision which was 100% ego driven and had fuck all to do with what was best for Town. 2, The complete lies afterwards that this was all part of the plan and that Moore was some once in a lifetime candidate. I would rather we were in the Conference North with fan ownership and 100% honesty than have this chancer or any other like him at the helm. Do you HONESTLY think Kevin Nagle sacked Warnock for Darren Moore on his own accord? He would have never heard of Moore. Edwards made the call and Kev backed his man. There’s nothing to suggest it was ego driven bar fan conspiracy theories.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 24, 2023 22:31:16 GMT 1
Talking loudly on Twitter (X) again. I’m not a fan of this. Again though... what's he saying wrong? An unacceptable performance?? It was. Our supporters deserve much more? We do. We have to do better, from the boardroom to the pitch, and it starts with me. It does start with him. You want to vent to someone? Can’t blame you. Vent to him then instead of eachother on here. If you are genuinely that bothered email him! It belittles the manager, if you ask me. ‘Blame me, not the guy who coaches the squad every week, picks the team and directs how we play. I employed him so it’s my fault. Don’t blame the players either. Everyone knows they’re not the best and we lack quality, pace & depth. What do you expect on my piss-poor budget though?’ Hardly a vote of confidence.
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 24, 2023 22:31:53 GMT 1
First big decision and he's made a complete tits of it. 100% agreed. Its not just the decision that's the issue though, the main issues are: 1, The motivation behind the decision which was 100% ego driven and had fuck all to do with what was best for Town. 2, The complete lies afterwards that this was all part of the plan and that Moore was some once in a lifetime candidate. I would rather we were in the Conference North with fan ownership and 100% honesty than have this chancer or any other like him at the helm. The perils of having self-made millionaires like Hoyle and Nagle run a football club is that they're the type of person that, at their core, is a chancer with an ego to feed. Yet to see an exception ever.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 22:38:16 GMT 1
Again though... what's he saying wrong? An unacceptable performance?? It was. Our supporters deserve much more? We do. We have to do better, from the boardroom to the pitch, and it starts with me. It does start with him. You want to vent to someone? Can’t blame you. Vent to him then instead of eachother on here. If you are genuinely that bothered email him! It belittles the manager, if you ask me. ‘Blame me, not the guy who coaches the squad every week, picks the team and directs how we play. I employed him so it’s my fault. Don’t blame the players either. Everyone knows they’re not the best and we lack quality, pace & depth. What do you expect on my piss-poor budget though?’ Hardly a vote of confidence. Doesn't read anything like that at all. I think it was an unacceptable performance. Is that me hiding behind the manager? Piss poor budget? Richest owner in our history. A decision that may have been wrong, shouldn't have reflection on his wealth etc.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Oct 24, 2023 22:38:45 GMT 1
100% agreed. Its not just the decision that's the issue though, the main issues are: 1, The motivation behind the decision which was 100% ego driven and had fuck all to do with what was best for Town. 2, The complete lies afterwards that this was all part of the plan and that Moore was some once in a lifetime candidate. I would rather we were in the Conference North with fan ownership and 100% honesty than have this chancer or any other like him at the helm. The perils of having self-made millionaires like Hoyle and Nagle run a football club is that they're the type of person that, at their core, is a chancer with an ego to feed. Yet to see an exception ever.  Always said if you’ve an ego big enough to buy a football club have the pockets deep enough to fund it. Hoyle seemed to not understand that’s 90% of football clubs will lose money and sounds like Nagle isn’t grasping that either. It’s not something you enter to make a few quid out of.
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Post by ldr on Oct 24, 2023 22:40:36 GMT 1
Talking loudly on Twitter (X) again. I’m not a fan of this. Again though... what's he saying wrong? An unacceptable performance?? It was. Our supporters deserve much more? We do. We have to do better, from the boardroom to the pitch, and it starts with me. It does start with him. You want to vent to someone? Can’t blame you. Vent to him then instead of eachother on here. If you are genuinely that bothered email him! All I said was that I’m not a fan of it. Calm down.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 24, 2023 22:42:41 GMT 1
It belittles the manager, if you ask me. ‘Blame me, not the guy who coaches the squad every week, picks the team and directs how we play. I employed him so it’s my fault. Don’t blame the players either. Everyone knows they’re not the best and we lack quality, pace & depth. What do you expect on my piss-poor budget though?’ Hardly a vote of confidence. Doesn't read anything like that at all. I think it was an unacceptable performance. Is that me hiding behind the manager? Piss poor budget? Richest owner in our history. A decision that may have been wrong, shouldn't have reflection on his wealth etc. He’s not hiding behind the manager, he’s hiding his manager behind himself. Shows a huge lack of trust and belief in DM to me. And the players. Just say it’s not good enough but ‘transition, time, lessons’ etc. It reads like a protective mum trying to hide her son from any criticism for his behaviour. V poor.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 22:44:23 GMT 1
The perils of having self-made millionaires like Hoyle and Nagle run a football club is that they're the type of person that, at their core, is a chancer with an ego to feed. Yet to see an exception ever.  Always said if you’ve an ego big enough to buy a football club have the pockets deep enough to fund it. Hoyle seemed to not understand that’s 90% of football clubs will lose money and sounds like Nagle isn’t grasping that either. It’s not something you enter to make a few quid out of. Spending doesn't always mean success. Would rather have a low spending 2021/22 than an out of control spending of 2018/19. Nagles error is, I think he has got the men to run it for him wrong. That doesn't mean he is terrible, out of his depth etc. I am confident Nagle will come out of this with a lot of people changing their minds. Right now, I now understand the negativity, but that is through giving people a chance. Over the years I have learnt from slagging people off before seeing what they can. Tom Lees prime example. Amazing how I got pelters for defending Rudoni, not one person who abused me has apologised for that. Yet I am told to learn a lesson for defending a manager with a win percentage you would struggle to find to beat who was realistic for us.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 22:46:16 GMT 1
Doesn't read anything like that at all. I think it was an unacceptable performance. Is that me hiding behind the manager? Piss poor budget? Richest owner in our history. A decision that may have been wrong, shouldn't have reflection on his wealth etc. He’s not hiding behind the manager, he’s hiding his manager behind himself. Shows a huge lack of trust and belief in DM to me. And the players. Just say it’s not good enough but ‘transition, time, lessons’ etc. It reads like a protective mum trying to hide her son from any criticism for his behaviour. V poor. Not one of them words were said in the tweet.
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Post by lankystreak on Oct 24, 2023 22:46:31 GMT 1
100% agreed. Its not just the decision that's the issue though, the main issues are: 1, The motivation behind the decision which was 100% ego driven and had fuck all to do with what was best for Town. 2, The complete lies afterwards that this was all part of the plan and that Moore was some once in a lifetime candidate. I would rather we were in the Conference North with fan ownership and 100% honesty than have this chancer or any other like him at the helm. Do you HONESTLY think Kevin Nagle sacked Warnock for Darren Moore on his own accord? He would have never heard of Moore. Edwards made the call and Kev backed his man. There’s nothing to suggest it was ego driven bar fan conspiracy theories. No and I haven't said he did, however, I'm fairly certain the decision to get rid of Warnock was his call and was 100% motivated by ego. I agree the replacement will have been decided by others.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 22:48:16 GMT 1
Again though... what's he saying wrong? An unacceptable performance?? It was. Our supporters deserve much more? We do. We have to do better, from the boardroom to the pitch, and it starts with me. It does start with him. You want to vent to someone? Can’t blame you. Vent to him then instead of eachother on here. If you are genuinely that bothered email him! All I said was that I’m not a fan of it. Calm down. I am calm... You're not a fan of it... but over the years Hoyle was slated for lack of communication. Now we have someone who is communicating, over social media due to location, and now that's wrong. I don't get it. And what he has said is a true. Do you disagree with any of what he has said?
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Post by harris on Oct 24, 2023 22:50:43 GMT 1
Do you HONESTLY think Kevin Nagle sacked Warnock for Darren Moore on his own accord? He would have never heard of Moore. Edwards made the call and Kev backed his man. There’s nothing to suggest it was ego driven bar fan conspiracy theories. No and I haven't said he did, however, I'm fairly certain the decision to get rid of Warnock was his call and was 100% motivated by ego. I agree the replacement will have been decided by others. I’m sorry but there’s no facts behind this, just a conspiracy over a tweet. Which both Warnock and Nagle have said is false.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 22:51:20 GMT 1
All I said was that I’m not a fan of it. Calm down. I am calm... You're not a fan of it... but over the years Hoyle was slated for lack of communication. Now we have someone who is communicating, over social media due to location, and now that's wrong. I don't get it. And what he has said is a true. Do you disagree with any of what he has said? I think owners should keep their gobs shut about performances and things on the pitch. It's not their place. Hoyle did it once under Clark and he quickly learned his lesson. He never did it again. I can't understand why you won't have a bad word said about him and you're so overly protective of him. It's just weird.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 24, 2023 22:51:54 GMT 1
He’s not hiding behind the manager, he’s hiding his manager behind himself. Shows a huge lack of trust and belief in DM to me. And the players. Just say it’s not good enough but ‘transition, time, lessons’ etc. It reads like a protective mum trying to hide her son from any criticism for his behaviour. V poor. Not one of them words were said in the tweet. I know. I read it. That’s just how it comes across. If he truly believed in the people he has employed to run the club he’d avoid this faux, self-critical nonsense and let them own their performances. The ‘blame me, not them’ jive is weak AF.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 24, 2023 22:52:28 GMT 1
The perils of having self-made millionaires like Hoyle and Nagle run a football club is that they're the type of person that, at their core, is a chancer with an ego to feed. Yet to see an exception ever.  Always said if you’ve an ego big enough to buy a football club have the pockets deep enough to fund it. Hoyle seemed to not understand that’s 90% of football clubs will lose money and sounds like Nagle isn’t grasping that either. It’s not something you enter to make a few quid out of. Do you really think Hoyle thought he was going to break even at worst owning Town? I’ve heard some shit on here, but I doubt that a bloke who was a football supporter for many a yr before he hit the business jackpot, didn’t understand he was taking on a loss making enterprise. His goal wasn’t to make money, it was to build a decent platform and hope someone else would eventually share or take on the risk. I expect he knew he would lose money, but I expect he had a limit set in his mind.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Oct 24, 2023 22:53:29 GMT 1
what has he tweeted tonight, has anyone posted it ? as i don't have x or twitter or whatever. I hope he has called it out like he did Norwich. Come on nagle you had the balls to call out the best champ manager ever , why not call out this dickhead you have appointed, who has about as much a clue about managing as a paperbag. he has been here such a short time, yet i am yet to see any impact at all from him.
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Post by space hardware on Oct 24, 2023 22:55:45 GMT 1
All I said was that I’m not a fan of it. Calm down. I am calm... You're not a fan of it... but over the years Hoyle was slated for lack of communication. Now we have someone who is communicating, over social media due to location, and now that's wrong. I don't get it. And what he has said is a true. Do you disagree with any of what he has said? Hoyle was never slated for a lack of communication. In fact, he was probably too candid. All that self aggrandising shit he came out with, such as "we had their pants down" whenever we sold a decent player for a few quid, was absolutely awful to listen to.
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