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Post by htafcokay on Dec 2, 2023 11:20:34 GMT 1
I'm genuinely starting to believe that you're hysterical. People are allowed to have different opinions on things, why do you feel the constant need to keep having a go at people that don't share your opinion? Ooh hit a nerve there have I? Who said I was referring to you? Maybe it's because you do put the owners down at every given opportunity...what are you hoping to achieve? If you genuinely believe you aren't the one that's been hysterical then I'm flabbergasted I just said the documentary was dull. Which I think it is. You're the one getting your knickers in a twist over something so unimportant like an old woman. I'm not hoping to achieve anything, this is a message board and it's where people post their opinions on all things related to our club. When the owner actually does something, I'll praise him. I'm still waiting... Is that alright with you, Blanche?
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 2, 2023 11:33:43 GMT 1
Ooh hit a nerve there have I? Who said I was referring to you? Maybe it's because you do put the owners down at every given opportunity...what are you hoping to achieve? If you genuinely believe you aren't the one that's been hysterical then I'm flabbergasted I just said the documentary was dull. Which I think it is. You're the one getting your knickers in a twist over something so unimportant like an old woman. I'm not hoping to achieve anything, this is a message board and it's where people post their opinions on all things related to our club. When the owner actually does something, I'll praise him. I'm still waiting... Is that alright with you, Blanche? But in the meantime your just going to piss and moan about anything that he does try to do? Awesome strategy...Deidre
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 2, 2023 11:37:25 GMT 1
I think it's excellent and anything that shows the club in a positive light should be well received by the supporters. Nagle comes across very well and even though it's obviously edited for telly there is enough there to see that the intentions are spot on. A few whingey babies crying because he hasn't signed Ronaldo in his first few months shouldn't detract from the bigger picture. Surely all are entitled to an opinion. ?
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 2, 2023 11:52:00 GMT 1
I just said the documentary was dull. Which I think it is. You're the one getting your knickers in a twist over something so unimportant like an old woman. I'm not hoping to achieve anything, this is a message board and it's where people post their opinions on all things related to our club. When the owner actually does something, I'll praise him. I'm still waiting... Is that alright with you, Blanche? But in the meantime your just going to piss and moan about anything that he does try to do? Awesome strategy...Deidre I'm not even moaning, I'm just giving an opinion on a documentary.
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Post by Huddy Town Black Sox on Dec 2, 2023 12:07:42 GMT 1
Well i must be easily pleased because i enjoyed watching numbers 4 and 5, Nagle comes across as a good bloke and i would happily have a pint with him
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 2, 2023 12:09:13 GMT 1
I think it's excellent and anything that shows the club in a positive light should be well received by the supporters. Nagle comes across very well and even though it's obviously edited for telly there is enough there to see that the intentions are spot on. A few whingey babies crying because he hasn't signed Ronaldo in his first few months shouldn't detract from the bigger picture. Surely all are entitled to an opinion. ? Nobody said they weren't? I'm entitled to think those who are constantly negative, and there are more than one, do more harm than good to the club.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Dec 2, 2023 12:35:50 GMT 1
Just finished. Really enjoyed those. I think KN has outlined clearly his intentions which will not be achieved overnight. Letās see.
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Post by workshyfop on Dec 2, 2023 12:45:18 GMT 1
Probably like most Town fans, I think he comes across really well but ultimately actions will speak louder than words.
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 2, 2023 12:57:58 GMT 1
Surely all are entitled to an opinion. ? Nobody said they weren't? I'm entitled to think those who are constantly negative, and there are more than one, do more harm than good to the club. It was the insult. I could say āif the happy clappers canāt see that they didnāt invest in a striker - which was madness -they donāt know footballā. Instead after years of watching us be under funded on the playing front I have decided that Town are simply not worth me getting so wound up by that lack of investment. Instead I shall just get behind whatever team we have. Itās all we can do. (Cut to a 4-0 hammering at home again and I may just rant)ā¦.
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 2, 2023 13:48:37 GMT 1
Well i must be easily pleased because i enjoyed watching numbers 4 and 5, Nagle comes across as a good bloke and i would happily have a pint with him Me too, I thought they were the best two episodes yet...nowhere near as cringy as some of the previous ones.
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Post by Jimuano on Dec 2, 2023 14:35:16 GMT 1
Both a really good watch aside from the cringeworthy young chav lasses mouthing offš¤®
I'm excited for January; when Kev will be over here for the month, hopefully overseeing some fabulous first team transfer business and setting high expectations for our future upward trajectory.
Also made clear and straight from the horse's mouth, Neil Warnock saying he'd signed up for another year but didn't expect to be here that long, and Jake Edwards backing this up saying Warnock would be here only until a successor was found.
There was quite a furore across our fan base when Warnock was replaced 'early', but those sections of info from the documentary confirm he was never gonna be here for a year - or, for that matter - until Christmas or any other specific time.
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Post by blue1003 on Dec 2, 2023 15:04:07 GMT 1
Both a really good watch aside from the cringeworthy young chav lasses mouthing offš¤® . āHey, leave them kids aloneā Not at all cringeworthy - just a bunch of young town fans enjoying themselves. Long may that continue.
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Post by nicovaesen on Dec 2, 2023 23:14:44 GMT 1
Can we buy a few players who believe we are better than surrending 80% possession at Real Madrid I mean fucking Swansea city. Jesus in the same league on the same points and we act like we are conference and theyāre man fucking city. No wonder no one turns up
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Post by mosher on Dec 4, 2023 10:26:35 GMT 1
Both a really good watch aside from the cringeworthy young chav lasses mouthing offš¤® I'm excited for January; when Kev will be over here for the month, hopefully overseeing some fabulous first team transfer business and setting high expectations for our future upward trajectory. Also made clear and straight from the horse's mouth, Neil Warnock saying he'd signed up for another year but didn't expect to be here that long, and Jake Edwards backing this up saying Warnock would be here only until a successor was found.There was quite a furore across our fan base when Warnock was replaced 'early', but those sections of info from the documentary confirm he was never gonna be here for a year - or, for that matter - until Christmas or any other specific time. AI don't ya know
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Post by royrace on Dec 4, 2023 10:44:17 GMT 1
Both a really good watch aside from the cringeworthy young chav lasses mouthing offš¤® I'm excited for January; when Kev will be over here for the month, hopefully overseeing some fabulous first team transfer business and setting high expectations for our future upward trajectory. Also made clear and straight from the horse's mouth, Neil Warnock saying he'd signed up for another year but didn't expect to be here that long, and Jake Edwards backing this up saying Warnock would be here only until a successor was found. There was quite a furore across our fan base when Warnock was replaced 'early', but those sections of info from the documentary confirm he was never gonna be here for a year - or, for that matter - until Christmas or any other specific time. This again! He was replaced earlier than planned. Of course they were never going to say a specific date but that does not mean he wasn't replaced 'early' or earlier than the management, NW, his coaching team and the management team, had planned.
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 4, 2023 11:24:33 GMT 1
I thought that was the best episode so far. Quite inspiring in some respects. Like his gaff.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Dec 4, 2023 13:23:15 GMT 1
You canāt help liking him. I think heās starting to realise how passionate about the game our fans are. The comment by his DJ mate ( please donāt wear the back to front baseball cap in Huddersfield) that he was surprised that fans were clued up on the clubs finances, shows they are now in tune with how seriously we take the game. Thought it was also good how when he turned up early he saw so many fans walking around outside the ground. Next episodes should be interesting!
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Post by Jimuano on Dec 4, 2023 15:20:50 GMT 1
Both a really good watch aside from the cringeworthy young chav lasses mouthing offš¤® I'm excited for January; when Kev will be over here for the month, hopefully overseeing some fabulous first team transfer business and setting high expectations for our future upward trajectory. Also made clear and straight from the horse's mouth, Neil Warnock saying he'd signed up for another year but didn't expect to be here that long, and Jake Edwards backing this up saying Warnock would be here only until a successor was found. There was quite a furore across our fan base when Warnock was replaced 'early', but those sections of info from the documentary confirm he was never gonna be here for a year - or, for that matter - until Christmas or any other specific time. This again! He was replaced earlier than planned. Of course they were never going to say a specific date but that does not mean he wasn't replaced 'early' or earlier than the management, NW, his coaching team and the management team, had planned. Warnock was replaced earlier than HE had planned (and most of us expected) for sure, but not earlier than the club had planned and hoped. The documentary confirms that Jake's remit was to get the new man in asap, and it was definitely in their plans to replace him at the earliest possible opportunity.
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Post by royrace on Dec 4, 2023 15:42:26 GMT 1
This again! He was replaced earlier than planned. Of course they were never going to say a specific date but that does not mean he wasn't replaced 'early' or earlier than the management, NW, his coaching team and the management team, had planned. Warnock was replaced earlier than HE had planned (and most of us expected) for sure, but not earlier than the club had planned and hoped. The documentary confirms that Jake's remit was to get the new man in asap, and it was definitely in their plans to replace him at the earliest possible opportunity. Believe what you want, tired of talking about this.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 4, 2023 15:53:38 GMT 1
Which rotten sod had the idea of taking him to watch the squad training and telling him it was a Foundation initiative, walking football š¤šš
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 4, 2023 23:05:45 GMT 1
He seems to be a successful businessman who is very passionate and up for the challenge. Also seems a modest and intelligent man who wants to deliver improvements across every aspect and build on the work in the local community. What's not to like? I feel we are in good hands
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 4, 2023 23:08:11 GMT 1
He seems to be a successful businessman who is very passionate and up for the challenge. Also seems a modest and intelligent man who wants to deliver improvements across every aspect and build on the work in the local community. What's not to like? I feel we are in good hands We are if he refers to the Bellend Road chestwankers as "the empire of evil" š
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Post by joek on Dec 5, 2023 8:54:21 GMT 1
He seems to be a successful businessman who is very passionate and up for the challenge. Also seems a modest and intelligent man who wants to deliver improvements across every aspect and build on the work in the local community. What's not to like? I feel we are in good hands Thatās my impression too. Heās committing to all this on screen so his aspirations are crystal clear. If he grows and builds the club as heās promising to then I for one will have absolutely no problem with it. The football landscape is changing massively, even at our level, and I like what he is proposing. Thereās still that one nagging doubt in my mind though - why does he want to commit hundreds of millions of pounds to HTFC when the chance of a return on that investment is so vanishingly small! And getting smaller by the day with the increasing wealth of Premier League and the teams relegated from it.
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 5, 2023 11:19:24 GMT 1
He seems to be a successful businessman who is very passionate and up for the challenge. Also seems a modest and intelligent man who wants to deliver improvements across every aspect and build on the work in the local community. What's not to like? I feel we are in good hands Thatās my impression too. Heās committing to all this on screen so his aspirations are crystal clear. If he grows and builds the club as heās promising to then I for one will have absolutely no problem with it. The football landscape is changing massively, even at our level, and I like what he is proposing. Thereās still that one nagging doubt in my mind though - why does he want to commit hundreds of millions of pounds to HTFC when the chance of a return on that investment is so vanishingly small! And getting smaller by the day with the increasing wealth of Premier League and the teams relegated from it. Because English football is seen as the nirvana of world football to americans. Look to Ipswich, Millwall, Plymouth, Swansea; all broadly similar current opportunity to Town when taken over by Americans - and then you look at the strength of the US Dollar against the Ā£, and throw in the incredible CHEAP cost of taking over an English club in comparison to buying into a US franchise. Its a different sport, but the Phoenix Suns cost $4bn when completed this past February. Its been mentioned that it would cost around $500-600m to get Sacramento into the MLS (although the door has now closed?) OR - you could takeover Huddersfield Town for Ā£7m, spend nothing approaching that over a many many year period on a project that has the potential to massage a business mans ego surrounding developing a community and doing the "right thing", *and* you MIGHT get to the PL, with only a Ā£20m or whatever payment to a previous owner hanging around - with all the doors that that PL place opens.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 5, 2023 11:40:11 GMT 1
Iāve just finished watching episodes four and five. Nothing unexpected or concerning as far as Iām concerned. Itās very much a two-way learning curve but, overall, I am confident that KNās long term intentions for the club are honorable (correction, honourable š), realistic and achievable. He must surely understand that it is only success on the pitch that can ultimately drive his long term ambitions for both the club and the town of Huddersfield.
The fact that he is (apparently) going to be in Huddersfield for the whole of January indicates to me that he recognises the importance of the January transfer window to the immediate and medium term future of the club and that he needs to be hands on. Decisions will likely have to be made quickly, there and then, otherwise we could miss out on a player; it also allows KN to watch and observe his management (in all parts of the club) and staff in action, and presumably also to try to make real progress on the future of ground ownership etc.
Iām OK with KN. I think we are in good hands, but action always speaks louder than words.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 5, 2023 12:43:50 GMT 1
Iāve just finished watching episodes four and five. Nothing unexpected or concerning as far as Iām concerned. Itās very much a two-way learning curve but, overall, I am confident that KNās long term intentions for the club are honorable (correction, honourable š), realistic and achievable. He must surely understand that it is only success on the pitch that can ultimately drive his long term ambitions for both the club and the town of Huddersfield. The fact that he is (apparently) going to be in Huddersfield for the whole of January indicates to me that he recognises the importance of the January transfer window to the immediate and medium term future of the club and that he needs to be hands on. Decisions will likely have to be made quickly, there and then, otherwise we could miss out on a player; it also allows KN to watch and observe his management (in all parts of the club) and staff in action, and presumably also to try to make real progress on the future of ground ownership etc. Iām OK with KN. I think we are in good hands, but action always speaks louder than words. Pretty much where you are. In the long run, and assuming he delivers, this period of healthy scepticism about him should be in his favour at some point. Not sure it helped Dean to be hero worshipped so early. Heās on a steep learning curve, though. I canāt help feeling that his life wouldāve been easier if we had been relegated (as we undoubtedly would have without NW). The problem - and itās been the same with all of the owners in my lifetime and becomes more, not less, acute - is that we are entirely dependent on the largesse of an individual. The old ādreamā of fan ownership is dead, and even if it happened it would mean lower league obscurity at best. Complaining about football club owners is largely just tilting at windmills.
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Post by joek on Dec 5, 2023 14:30:40 GMT 1
Thatās my impression too. Heās committing to all this on screen so his aspirations are crystal clear. If he grows and builds the club as heās promising to then I for one will have absolutely no problem with it. The football landscape is changing massively, even at our level, and I like what he is proposing. Thereās still that one nagging doubt in my mind though - why does he want to commit hundreds of millions of pounds to HTFC when the chance of a return on that investment is so vanishingly small! And getting smaller by the day with the increasing wealth of Premier League and the teams relegated from it. Because English football is seen as the nirvana of world football to americans. Look to Ipswich, Millwall, Plymouth, Swansea; all broadly similar current opportunity to Town when taken over by Americans - and then you look at the strength of the US Dollar against the Ā£, and throw in the incredible CHEAP cost of taking over an English club in comparison to buying into a US franchise. Its a different sport, but the Phoenix Suns cost $4bn when completed this past February. Its been mentioned that it would cost around $500-600m to get Sacramento into the MLS (although the door has now closed?) OR - you could takeover Huddersfield Town for Ā£7m, spend nothing approaching that over a many many year period on a project that has the potential to massage a business mans ego surrounding developing a community and doing the "right thing", *and* you MIGHT get to the PL, with only a Ā£20m or whatever payment to a previous owner hanging around - with all the doors that that PL place opens. But he will need to invest hundreds of millions of pounds to get us anywhere near challenging for a Premier League place. And thatās before we talk about the costs of maintaining the ground, the academy, the training ground etc etc. Youāre making out like this will be cheap for him when I donāt think thatās the case at all. Lots of other chairmen have found this out the hard way. Just hope KN really really understands what heās got himself into.
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 5, 2023 15:13:05 GMT 1
Because English football is seen as the nirvana of world football to americans. Look to Ipswich, Millwall, Plymouth, Swansea; all broadly similar current opportunity to Town when taken over by Americans - and then you look at the strength of the US Dollar against the Ā£, and throw in the incredible CHEAP cost of taking over an English club in comparison to buying into a US franchise. Its a different sport, but the Phoenix Suns cost $4bn when completed this past February. Its been mentioned that it would cost around $500-600m to get Sacramento into the MLS (although the door has now closed?) OR - you could takeover Huddersfield Town for Ā£7m, spend nothing approaching that over a many many year period on a project that has the potential to massage a business mans ego surrounding developing a community and doing the "right thing", *and* you MIGHT get to the PL, with only a Ā£20m or whatever payment to a previous owner hanging around - with all the doors that that PL place opens. But he will need to invest hundreds of millions of pounds to get us anywhere near challenging for a Premier League place. And thatās before we talk about the costs of maintaining the ground, the academy, the training ground etc etc. Youāre making out like this will be cheap for him when I donāt think thatās the case at all. Lots of other chairmen have found this out the hard way. Just hope KN really really understands what heās got himself into. No, he won't need to invest hundreds of millions of pounds. Think about the length of time it took for Dean to build up to Ā£50m, during a period that included lots of capital investment to the training ground. And hundreds of millions would still be considerably less than the cost of opening the door in the USA. Its a gamble worth doing, especially if you take personal pride in the outcome and don't need "ultimate" success to see it as a worthy project.
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 5, 2023 15:37:11 GMT 1
He seems to be a successful businessman who is very passionate and up for the challenge. Also seems a modest and intelligent man who wants to deliver improvements across every aspect and build on the work in the local community. What's not to like? I feel we are in good hands Thatās my impression too. Heās committing to all this on screen so his aspirations are crystal clear. If he grows and builds the club as heās promising to then I for one will have absolutely no problem with it. The football landscape is changing massively, even at our level, and I like what he is proposing. Thereās still that one nagging doubt in my mind though - why does he want to commit hundreds of millions of pounds to HTFC when the chance of a return on that investment is so vanishingly small! And getting smaller by the day with the increasing wealth of Premier League and the teams relegated from it. It's a good question and one that someone should ask him, if they've not already and I've missed it. However, he seems to be worth a staggering amount of money, a good few Billion if reports of him selling his stake in Sacramento Kings for Ā£6.7bn are to be believed. If that is an indication of his wealth, then Ā£200, Ā£300 or Ā£400m over the next 5-10 years isn't really gonna make a massive dent. And he's probably not looking for a RIO. It's more likely the case of, I've money to spend, what can I spend it on.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 5, 2023 15:53:11 GMT 1
Thatās my impression too. Heās committing to all this on screen so his aspirations are crystal clear. If he grows and builds the club as heās promising to then I for one will have absolutely no problem with it. The football landscape is changing massively, even at our level, and I like what he is proposing. Thereās still that one nagging doubt in my mind though - why does he want to commit hundreds of millions of pounds to HTFC when the chance of a return on that investment is so vanishingly small! And getting smaller by the day with the increasing wealth of Premier League and the teams relegated from it. It's a good question and one that someone should ask him, if they've not already and I've missed it. However, he seems to be worth a staggering amount of money, a good few Billion if reports of him selling his stake in Sacramento Kings for Ā£6.7bn are to be believed. If that is an indication of his wealth, then Ā£200, Ā£300 or Ā£400m over the next 5-10 years isn't really gonna make a massive dent. And he's probably not looking for a RIO. It's more likely the case of, I've money to spend, what can I spend it on. Iāve no doubt he has a few dollars but the Kings shareholding was a part of a 17% consortium so he wouldnāt have got anything like 6.7Bn. Still be a biggish chunk, like.
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