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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 9:43:53 GMT 1
Not real though... Neil constantly said 'we will only get people if I feel they are better than what we have' The club had targets. But they weren't with certain agencies or clubs didn't want to loan them here. As much as NW pulled off a miracle and brought some passion back into the club.
He is sole blame for the lack of transfers.This is on a par with your 'critics of DM need to learn about football' nonsense. (I'm paraphrasing, of course). Are you for real? Says he's got no problem with Warnock but always has to get a dig in about him. |
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Post by ram on Nov 19, 2023 10:50:42 GMT 1
Fair point but when a manager doesn’t fancy you it’s hard to get into the team . Where was Rhodes when we were pushing for promotion and Ward was out injured ? Scoring vital goals against Boro , Barnsley and most importantly Luton .
No one is saying he’s the second coming . However let’s all be honest and say if he was here he’s the best striker we’ve got available … In the last few weeks the hysteria has been unbelievable, you'd honestly think we'd let a prime Harry Kane go out on loan or something. I don't remember many people wanting Rhodes in the team when we were picking up results towards the end of last season and he was surplus to requirements. The way people are going on and on about him now, he better be brilliant when he comes back. I'm expecting at least 15 goals when he returns in January. Rhodes,or anyone else for that matter,wouldn,t score 15 goals with this Muppet manager in charge. |
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Post by rockwall on Nov 19, 2023 11:07:20 GMT 1
NW didn't say we needed one desperately. He kept banging on about none were better than what we have (ward) He may have mentioned the lack of.options etc. But it was clear that he had is prodigical son as number 1. I don't remember golden boy Rhodes playing much of a part when we stayed up? Ward on the other hand... It's daft to send Rhodes out on loan without replacing him but let's stop pretending that we've loaned out Maradona and that when he inevitably returns in January he's gonna be banging them in left, right and centre. As usual, whenever a player leaves Town or isn't in the side, they become 100 times better in the eyes of Town fans... Never mentioned Rhodes.... He also isn't good enough. Hasn't done anything in my opinion in his 2nd spell. I agree with your views on JR. |
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Post by rockwall on Nov 19, 2023 11:10:47 GMT 1
This is on a par with your 'critics of DM need to learn about football' nonsense. (I'm paraphrasing, of course). Are you for real? Says he's got no problem with Warnock but always has to get a dig in about him. I don't have a problem with Warnock. But to some, he cannot do no wrong regardless of the facts. Is it a shame, of course it is. But he conducted in the wrong way off the field and in any line of work, would see someone replaced. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 11:19:00 GMT 1
Says he's got no problem with Warnock but always has to get a dig in about him. I don't have a problem with Warnock. But to some, he cannot do no wrong regardless of the facts. Is it a shame, of course it is. But he conducted in the wrong way off the field and in any line of work, would see someone replaced. So why do you constantly have to get a dig in every time? The other day you blamed the shite transfer window solely on Warnock. No blame whatsoever for the owners and club hierarchy. Yesterday, another dig earlier in the thread about him renewing Ward's contract. At the time, very few Town fans had a problem with this in fact, I seem to remember quite a lot of people loving it. It was pretty clear Warnock wanted another striker in, why do you think he had a pop at the owner in the press conference? Seems to me like you've chosen a particular hill to die on and you're sticking to it. |
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Post by araucaria on Nov 19, 2023 11:20:18 GMT 1
Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes But surely he'll come in handy, won't he? |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 11:21:43 GMT 1
Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes But surely he'll come in handy, won't he? Yes definitely, I'm looking forward to the play-off push when he returns with all these goals he's going to score. |
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Post by araucaria on Nov 19, 2023 11:22:17 GMT 1
Says he's got no problem with Warnock but always has to get a dig in about him. I don't have a problem with Warnock. But to some, he cannot do no wrong regardless of the facts. Is it a shame, of course it is. But he conducted in the wrong way off the field and in any line of work, would see someone replaced. Other than football and politics. |
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Post by Randy Watson on Nov 19, 2023 11:30:09 GMT 1
Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes Don't be so gullible Mcfly |
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Post by bentley316 on Nov 19, 2023 12:00:12 GMT 1
I dont think we need to bring him back.
But i can almost guarentee if he was here he wouldve started most games for us since Ward's injury.
Is that the fault of the hierarchy/Warnock? Not so sure. id guess they needed his wages off the books before they could try to get a replacement striker. But who knows.
Either way he hasnt been anything great outside of a couple of games since he came back so he isnt the answer to "who is getting us 10 goals this season"
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Post by araucaria on Nov 19, 2023 12:08:27 GMT 1
But surely he'll come in handy, won't he? Yes definitely, I'm looking forward to the play-off push when he returns with all these goals he's going to score. I believe that you and I have fallen victim to excellent work by Million Dollar Babies and Clark w Griswald. |
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Post by dm on Nov 19, 2023 12:33:10 GMT 1
He wasn't scoring, but is now in League One where he gets chances to shoot. He might be better than what we currently have (not difficult), but would he get the opportunity to shoot here - never mind score? He's probably had more shots in 14 games out on loan than he's had since he came back to Town: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/blackpool/top-scorersNot the answer to our problems. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 19, 2023 13:14:48 GMT 1
He wasn't scoring, but is now in League One where he gets chances to shoot. He might be better than what we currently have (not difficult), but would he get the opportunity to shoot here - never mind score? He's probably had more shots in 14 games out on loan than he's had since he came back to Town: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/blackpool/top-scorersNot the answer to our problems. Unless we get a goalscorer in then I see we have no real choice but to recall him and use him. Goalscorers cost big money and unless we are prepared to pay big money for one then we have to find the goals somewhere. |
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 19, 2023 13:29:26 GMT 1
I genuinely don't know who people expect us to sign. We own a striker that is currently sitting on 10 goals and folk don't want us to bring him back?? Bonkers.
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Post by dm on Nov 19, 2023 13:35:21 GMT 1
He wasn't scoring, but is now in League One where he gets chances to shoot. He might be better than what we currently have (not difficult), but would he get the opportunity to shoot here - never mind score? He's probably had more shots in 14 games out on loan than he's had since he came back to Town: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/blackpool/top-scorersNot the answer to our problems. Unless we get a goalscorer in then I see we have no real choice but to recall him and use him. Goalscorers cost big money and unless we are prepared to pay big money for one then we have to find the goals somewhere. Absolutely need a goalscorer. He wouldn't be able to come back til January anyway. I'd spend the time identifying someone younger and more mobile. Either way, we need to start creating shooting opportunities or even Haaland would struggle to crack double figures in our team. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Nov 19, 2023 13:40:57 GMT 1
Rhodes will be back on the 2nd January.
100% he is better than Harratt & Hudlin,
100% he would have scored a couple at least. 3 goals in six games and people dont want him back.
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Post by wigster on Nov 19, 2023 13:41:41 GMT 1
But surely he'll come in handy, won't he? Yes definitely, I'm looking forward to the play-off push when he returns with all these goals he's going to score. Sarcasm, with which your Jordan Rhodes posts are riddled, isn't very attractive htafcokay. And not impressive as an argument. NOBODY is arguing he's as good as he used to be, but he's a bloody sight better than anyone else we have. Simple question - would you agree that Rhodes would have scored more for Town this season than Ward, Harratt and Burzorg, certainly individually, and probably put together ? He's not the answer by any means, but as a striker he is streets ahead of those three surely ? |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 14:05:49 GMT 1
I genuinely don't know who people expect us to sign. We own a striker that is currently sitting on 10 goals and folk don't want us to bring him back?? Bonkers. In a division below. It's not like he's knocking them in for a Championship side. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 14:08:21 GMT 1
Yes definitely, I'm looking forward to the play-off push when he returns with all these goals he's going to score. Sarcasm, with which your Jordan Rhodes posts are riddled, isn't very attractive htafcokay. And not impressive as an argument. NOBODY is arguing he's as good as he used to be, but he's a bloody sight better than anyone else we have. Simple question - would you agree that Rhodes would have scored more for Town this season than Ward, Harratt and Burzorg, certainly individually, and probably put together ? He's not the answer by any means, but as a striker he is streets ahead of those three surely ? Obviously he's better than the strikers you mentioned. I'm never ever gonna argue otherwise. However, I think the fact that he hasn't hit double figures in the Championship for eight years tell you all you need to know. I just think the way he's turned into a prime Harry Kane in the eyes of some since he left is just funny. Bring him back by all means, but he better start scoring. |
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Post by rockwall on Nov 19, 2023 14:17:08 GMT 1
I don't have a problem with Warnock. But to some, he cannot do no wrong regardless of the facts. Is it a shame, of course it is. But he conducted in the wrong way off the field and in any line of work, would see someone replaced. So why do you constantly have to get a dig in every time? The other day you blamed the shite transfer window solely on Warnock. No blame whatsoever for the owners and club hierarchy. Yesterday, another dig earlier in the thread about him renewing Ward's contract. At the time, very few Town fans had a problem with this in fact, I seem to remember quite a lot of people loving it. It was pretty clear Warnock wanted another striker in, why do you think he had a pop at the owner in the press conference? Seems to me like you've chosen a particular hill to die on and you're sticking to it. Did Warnock renew Wards contract? Yes... So how is a fact a dig? Why aren't people allowed a view on the situation? You have a dig at many people that have been involved at the club. Warnock also made it clear that we had a play off challenging squad. Yet the owner is getting beat with a stick for thinking such a thing. But Pete choose to forget that. Warnock did want a striker, but guess what? No one wanted to come and play for him whether it was a club loaning or a player themselves. Facts aren't having a dig. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2023 14:49:31 GMT 1
As others have said, he doesn’t do well as a lone striker. We have taken strikers from League 1 and below who were not getting as many goals as Rhodes is. He has played almost 1,200 minutes this season. Danny Ward has played less than 400 and hasn’t scored a goal yet Warnock pushed for him to have a new contract and let Rhodes go out on loan. Rhodes is now into double figures. As they say, go figure. Or as I say, go and sign a fucking striker. Recalling players deemed not good enough a few months ago is not the answer. Might as well bring Simpson and Phillips back as well. If he wasn’t our player folk on here would be wanting him signed up. 10 goals and 3 assists before the end of November. We would be asking why we hadn’t signed him. |
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Post by Tinpot on Nov 19, 2023 15:33:50 GMT 1
I dont think we need to bring him back. But i can almost guarentee if he was here he wouldve started most games for us since Ward's injury. Is that the fault of the hierarchy/Warnock? Not so sure. id guess they needed his wages off the books before they could try to get a replacement striker. But who knows. Either way he hasnt been anything great outside of a couple of games since he came back so he isnt the answer to "who is getting us 10 goals this season"I'm sure that between the whole squad we'll manage 10 goals. |
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Post by Tinpot on Nov 19, 2023 15:45:37 GMT 1
Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes Given his goalscoring record in Lg1, I would suggest that where we're going we most definitely WILL need Rhodes. |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 19, 2023 16:23:11 GMT 1
Rhodes will be back on the 2nd January. 100% he is better than Harratt & Hudlin, 100% he would have scored a couple at least. 3 goals in six games and people dont want him back. Get Real How would he have scored a couple ? We don't create chances as a team and he's never been one that makes chances of his own. |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 19, 2023 16:25:12 GMT 1
Or as I say, go and sign a fucking striker. Recalling players deemed not good enough a few months ago is not the answer. Might as well bring Simpson and Phillips back as well. If he wasn’t our player folk on here would be wanting him signed up. 10 goals and 3 assists before the end of November. We would be asking why we hadn’t signed him. Yeah, we'd be overjoyed if we signed a 33 year old from a mid table league one club 🙄 |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Nov 19, 2023 16:46:24 GMT 1
Rhodes will be back on the 2nd January. 100% he is better than Harratt & Hudlin, 100% he would have scored a couple at least. 3 goals in six games and people dont want him back. Get Real How would he have scored a couple ? We don't create chances as a team and he's never been one that makes chances of his own. Up to the QPR game…. Huddersfield have played the most crosses (254), successful crosses (72) and passes into the box (375) of any Championship side this season, scoring more goals via crosses than any other side (6). |
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 19, 2023 16:54:36 GMT 1
If he wasn’t our player folk on here would be wanting him signed up. 10 goals and 3 assists before the end of November. We would be asking why we hadn’t signed him. Yeah, we'd be overjoyed if we signed a 33 year old from a mid table league one club 🙄 Name a realistic target we should be aiming for. |
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Post by ubiqueterrier on Nov 19, 2023 17:00:18 GMT 1
I can see how there are mixed opinions over Rhodes. His last couple of years haven't been his best, however, with our current striking situation, and him hitting red-hot form SOMETHING needs to be done.
I see us as having 2 sensible options:
1. Recall him and use him - he's fit, in great form and would be a great role model for Harratt/Hudlin (and possibly opens an opportunity to loan one of the two th Blackpool to fill Rhodes' void). Before the transfer window closed, many fans were hopeful of signing Clarke-Harris from Peterborough for c£1M - As a short term fix, Rhodes has proven himself to be the better option. Rhodes needs 4 goals to make it 100 for the club and 8 to retake the crown of Championship all time top scorer (or 7 for joint top scorer)...7/8 may be a stretch, but in this form, surely he'd hit the century! Which I'd personally love to see.
2. End the loan and sell him. Ideally to Blackpool. Any club with an ambition of promoting from league 1 would be crazy not to have a look at him - he's joint 3rd for mins/goal. Clearly his value isn't high, however, I imagine we could easily be looking at £100-250k for a striker in this form. It'll be good for Rhodes as I imagine he'll probably get a 1.5/2.5 year contract...and we wouldn't be supplementing his wages for the rest of the season.
If he stays at Blackpool under the same agreement, I would personally be questioning the competence of people running the clubs transfer dealings (even more so).
I hope this is something we can be proactive on, whether we see him in blue and white again or not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2023 17:14:26 GMT 1
If he wasn’t our player folk on here would be wanting him signed up. 10 goals and 3 assists before the end of November. We would be asking why we hadn’t signed him. Yeah, we'd be overjoyed if we signed a 33 year old from a mid table league one club 🙄 I get the age issue but by the same time in November 2018 Karlan Grant from League 1 Charlton had scored 8 goals with 2 assists and we signed him straight to the Premiership in January 2019. By the end of the year, in League 1, he had scored 14 with 4 assists, and given the way Rhodes is playing he could be very close to that, plus he didn't sign for Blackpool until the fourth game of the season, so he is 3 games behind Grant. We signed Grant for about £2m if memory serves me right. Rhodes is the 4th highest scorer in League 1 and has played less games than the players above him, and, as you say, in a mediocre team. So all this 'he has never done anything in the Championship' stuff doesn't add up. He is a goal scorer. With the right support he will score goals at Championship level. He scored more than Ward last season, playing as a lone striker, and played a lot less games. Some posters are saying we should get Kieffer Moore, who is 31 and has played 142 minutes this season and not scored. Admittedly he is in the Premiership but who looks the better option this season based on results? |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 19, 2023 17:21:44 GMT 1
Yeah, we'd be overjoyed if we signed a 33 year old from a mid table league one club 🙄 Name a realistic target we should be aiming for. What's realistic ? What, if any, is the budget they're working to ? How happy would you be if we were pinning our hopes on signing a 33 year old from League 1. One that had scored relatively bugger all at Championship level for 8 years 🤷 |
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