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Post by Porrohman on Nov 19, 2023 17:24:04 GMT 1
Yeah, we'd be overjoyed if we signed a 33 year old from a mid table league one club 🙄 I get the age issue but by the same time in November 2018 Karlan Grant from League 1 Charlton had scored 8 goals with 2 assists and we signed him straight to the Premiership in January 2019. By the end of the year, in League 1, he had scored 14 with 4 assists, and given the way Rhodes is playing he could be very close to that, plus he didn't sign for Blackpool until the fourth game of the season, so he is 3 games behind Grant. We signed Grant for about £2m if memory serves me right. Rhodes is the 4th highest scorer in League 1 and has played less games than the players above him, and, as you say, in a mediocre team. So all this 'he has never done anything in the Championship' stuff doesn't add up. He is a goal scorer. With the right support he will score goals at Championship level. He scored more than Ward last season, playing as a lone striker, and played a lot less games. Some posters are saying we should get Kieffer Moore, who is 31 and has played 142 minutes this season and not scored. Admittedly he is in the Premiership but who looks the better option this season based on results? I've never understood the clamour to sign Moore. A big donkey who's more likely to get sent off than score. |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 19, 2023 17:26:23 GMT 1
How would he have scored a couple ? We don't create chances as a team and he's never been one that makes chances of his own. Up to the QPR game…. Huddersfield have played the most crosses (254), successful crosses (72) and passes into the box (375) of any Championship side this season, scoring more goals via crosses than any other side (6). Play Helik up front then, most of those goals will be his. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Nov 19, 2023 17:28:29 GMT 1
Up to the QPR game…. Huddersfield have played the most crosses (254), successful crosses (72) and passes into the box (375) of any Championship side this season, scoring more goals via crosses than any other side (6). Play Helik up front then, most of those goals will be his. Theres no helping you…. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Nov 19, 2023 17:29:14 GMT 1
Rhodes is scoring on loan bring him back
But that's at a lower level than Champship
He's still better than what we have
He didn't score much as a lone striker and our current set up has never had two up top.
There, I've saved anyone just joining the thread 16 pages of a circular argument. You're welcome.
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 19, 2023 17:49:58 GMT 1
Name a realistic target we should be aiming for. What's realistic ? What, if any, is the budget they're working to ? How happy would you be if we were pinning our hopes on signing a 33 year old from League 1. One that had scored relatively bugger all at Championship level for 8 years 🤷 I'm just wondering who you feel we should be signing that would score goals in this division. You are quick to say who you don't want but who do you actually want? |
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Post by araucaria on Nov 19, 2023 17:52:48 GMT 1
Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes Well, four of us got it, even if one of us needed help. When Lord Snooty returned to the government last week, there were lots of Back to the Future comments, but nothing as good as this. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 18:46:25 GMT 1
So why do you constantly have to get a dig in every time? The other day you blamed the shite transfer window solely on Warnock. No blame whatsoever for the owners and club hierarchy. Yesterday, another dig earlier in the thread about him renewing Ward's contract. At the time, very few Town fans had a problem with this in fact, I seem to remember quite a lot of people loving it. It was pretty clear Warnock wanted another striker in, why do you think he had a pop at the owner in the press conference? Seems to me like you've chosen a particular hill to die on and you're sticking to it. Did Warnock renew Wards contract? Yes... So how is a fact a dig? Why aren't people allowed a view on the situation? You have a dig at many people that have been involved at the club. Warnock also made it clear that we had a play off challenging squad. Yet the owner is getting beat with a stick for thinking such a thing. But Pete choose to forget that. Warnock did want a striker, but guess what? No one wanted to come and play for him whether it was a club loaning or a player themselves. Facts aren't having a dig. Nothing to do with us paying peanuts no? You can deny it all you want, but you're bizarrely blaming Warnock for that transfer window but not levelling any sort of criticism at the owner, the guy who sets the budgets and holds the purse strings. That's not balanced and its not right. While you are correct about teams not wanting to loan players to Warnock, I think you're being rather disingenuous to suggest that NO-ONE would sign for him. At all. Paying players in chocolate buttons is probably the main reason why we're lining up with Kyle Fucking Hudlin as our main striker. He better get his hand in his pocket in January, otherwise he's going to be end up being the chairman that takes us back down to League One. And he'll have no-one to blame but himself. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2023 18:48:08 GMT 1
Rhodes is scoring on loan bring him back But that's at a lower level than Champship He's still better than what we have He didn't score much as a lone striker and our current set up has never had two up top. There, I've saved anyone just joining the thread 16 pages of a circular argument. You're welcome. Are you new to DATM? ……… |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 18:49:03 GMT 1
Or as I say, go and sign a fucking striker. Recalling players deemed not good enough a few months ago is not the answer. Might as well bring Simpson and Phillips back as well. If he wasn’t our player folk on here would be wanting him signed up. 10 goals and 3 assists before the end of November. We would be asking why we hadn’t signed him. I wouldn't. I don't want a 33 year old has-been, I want an up and coming young striker that scores more than the centre-halves. Is it too much to ask for? |
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Post by Dan on Nov 19, 2023 18:52:21 GMT 1
After 17 pages I'm coming to the conclusion that htafcokay would prefer for us not to recall Jordan Rhodes in January?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2023 18:52:28 GMT 1
If he wasn’t our player folk on here would be wanting him signed up. 10 goals and 3 assists before the end of November. We would be asking why we hadn’t signed him. I wouldn't. I don't want a 33 year old has-been, I want an up and coming young striker that scores more than the centre-halves. Is it too much to ask for? Name names. Goal scorers are like rocking horse excrement. If a striker is on good form, and fit enough to play the games Rhodes has, why would he not be on your radar? |
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 19, 2023 18:52:45 GMT 1
Did Warnock renew Wards contract? Yes... So how is a fact a dig? Why aren't people allowed a view on the situation? You have a dig at many people that have been involved at the club. Warnock also made it clear that we had a play off challenging squad. Yet the owner is getting beat with a stick for thinking such a thing. But Pete choose to forget that. Warnock did want a striker, but guess what? No one wanted to come and play for him whether it was a club loaning or a player themselves. Facts aren't having a dig. Nothing to do with us paying peanuts no? You can deny it all you want, but you're bizarrely blaming Warnock for that transfer window but not levelling any sort of criticism at the owner, the guy who sets the budgets and holds the purse strings. That's not balanced and its not right. While you are correct about teams not wanting to loan players to Warnock, I think you're being rather disingenuous to suggest that NO-ONE would sign for him. At all. Paying players in chocolate buttons is probably the main reason why we're lining up with Kyle Fucking Hudlin as our main striker. He better get his hand in his pocket in January, otherwise he's going to be end up being the chairman that takes us back down to League One. And he'll have no-one to blame but himself. It's difficult to leverage criticism at an owner who had been in the building about a month before the transfer window opened. He must surely get the benefit of the doubt and a go at the next window with his feet now under the table? If it was my money being spent and the manager was refusing to sign players due to the agency they were represented by or arranging transfers that benefitted his sons coffers I would equally be reluctant to splash out under said manager. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 18:55:04 GMT 1
I wouldn't. I don't want a 33 year old has-been, I want an up and coming young striker that scores more than the centre-halves. Is it too much to ask for? Name names. Goal scorers are like rocking horse excrement. If a striker is on good form, and fit enough to play the games Rhodes has, why would he not be on your radar? Because he's 33 and he's been fucking shit since he came back to us. A lazy signing by Hodgkinson to appease the fans because there's nothing that Town fans love more than to obsess over bringing back ex players. And you all fell for it. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 18:56:43 GMT 1
Nothing to do with us paying peanuts no? You can deny it all you want, but you're bizarrely blaming Warnock for that transfer window but not levelling any sort of criticism at the owner, the guy who sets the budgets and holds the purse strings. That's not balanced and its not right. While you are correct about teams not wanting to loan players to Warnock, I think you're being rather disingenuous to suggest that NO-ONE would sign for him. At all. Paying players in chocolate buttons is probably the main reason why we're lining up with Kyle Fucking Hudlin as our main striker. He better get his hand in his pocket in January, otherwise he's going to be end up being the chairman that takes us back down to League One. And he'll have no-one to blame but himself. It's difficult to leverage criticism at an owner who had been in the building about a month before the transfer window opened. He must surely get the benefit of the doubt and a go at the next window with his feet now under the table? If it was my money being spent and the manager was refusing to sign players due to the agency they were represented by or arranging transfers that benefitted his sons coffers I would equally be reluctant to splash out under said manager. He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, no. Because he's presided over a complete farce since the season started. And with regards to Warnock refusing to sign players, if that's the case, I'm looking forward to all these major signings in January. I actually can't wait. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 19:04:17 GMT 1
After 17 pages I'm coming to the conclusion that htafcokay would prefer for us not to recall Jordan Rhodes in January? I thought we were on about Maradona by the way people on here are going on about him. |
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Post by richhtfc on Nov 19, 2023 19:17:19 GMT 1
I think we should recall him in January, we need to try hard for another striker as well but he’s more likely to score than Harratt or Hudlin imo and there are no guarantees that if we get someone in they won’t get injured.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Nov 19, 2023 19:26:09 GMT 1
It's difficult to leverage criticism at an owner who had been in the building about a month before the transfer window opened. He must surely get the benefit of the doubt and a go at the next window with his feet now under the table? If it was my money being spent and the manager was refusing to sign players due to the agency they were represented by or arranging transfers that benefitted his sons coffers I would equally be reluctant to splash out under said manager. He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, no. Because he's presided over a complete farce since the season started. And with regards to Warnock refusing to sign players, if that's the case, I'm looking forward to all these major signings in January. I actually can't wait. He did fail to invest in a striker AND so did Hoyle and Hodgkinson for several years prior. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 19:28:08 GMT 1
He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, no. Because he's presided over a complete farce since the season started. And with regards to Warnock refusing to sign players, if that's the case, I'm looking forward to all these major signings in January. I actually can't wait. He did fail to invest in a striker AND so did Hoyle and Hodgkinson for several years prior. Hoyle and Hodgkinson have gone. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Nov 19, 2023 19:33:34 GMT 1
He did fail to invest in a striker AND so did Hoyle and Hodgkinson for several years prior. Hoyle and Hodgkinson have gone. So has Warnock but doesn’t stop you harping on about him |
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Post by goodbet on Nov 19, 2023 19:33:59 GMT 1
So why do you constantly have to get a dig in every time? The other day you blamed the shite transfer window solely on Warnock. No blame whatsoever for the owners and club hierarchy. Yesterday, another dig earlier in the thread about him renewing Ward's contract. At the time, very few Town fans had a problem with this in fact, I seem to remember quite a lot of people loving it. It was pretty clear Warnock wanted another striker in, why do you think he had a pop at the owner in the press conference? Seems to me like you've chosen a particular hill to die on and you're sticking to it. Did Warnock renew Wards contract? Yes... So how is a fact a dig? Why aren't people allowed a view on the situation? You have a dig at many people that have been involved at the club. Warnock also made it clear that we had a play off challenging squad. Yet the owner is getting beat with a stick for thinking such a thing. But Pete choose to forget that. Warnock did want a striker, but guess what? No one wanted to come and play for him whether it was a club loaning or a player themselves. Facts aren't having a dig. I think that it is fare to say that Warnock recommended that Ward got a new contract, but Cartwright would have be the person who signed off on that. Anyone can have a view on the situation. The summer transfer window was appalling, but I am sceptical on the leaking on blaming it all on Warnock. I don't have inside information but it seems more likely that Cartwright is trying to cover his actions. Is Warnock whiter than white, I doubt it as football is apparently rife with dirty dealings. I just can't see him sabotaging his second season, but I can imagine a poor DoF throwing throwing dirt around. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 19:35:51 GMT 1
Hoyle and Hodgkinson have gone. So has Warnock but doesn’t stop you harping on about him When was the last time I brought Warnock up? It's certain people on here that are obsessed and bring him up at every opportunity. I'm not one of them. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 19:38:17 GMT 1
Did Warnock renew Wards contract? Yes... So how is a fact a dig? Why aren't people allowed a view on the situation? You have a dig at many people that have been involved at the club. Warnock also made it clear that we had a play off challenging squad. Yet the owner is getting beat with a stick for thinking such a thing. But Pete choose to forget that. Warnock did want a striker, but guess what? No one wanted to come and play for him whether it was a club loaning or a player themselves. Facts aren't having a dig. I think that it is fare to say that Warnock recommended that Ward got a new contract, but Cartwright would have be the person who signed off on that. Anyone can have a view on the situation. The summer transfer window was appalling, but I am sceptical on the leaking on blaming it all on Warnock. I don't have inside information but it seems more likely that Cartwright is trying to cover his actions. Is Warnock whiter than white, I doubt it as football is apparently rife with dirty dealings. I just can't see him sabotaging his second season, but I can imagine a poor DoF throwing throwing dirt around. No no, it was definitely ALL Warnock's fault. Nothing to do with Nagle or Cartwright. Just Warnock. Remember when there used to be a middle ground? Now you've either got to throw your lot behind one or the other. Why can't people just admit and accept that all parties have to take some of the blame? |
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 19, 2023 19:42:37 GMT 1
He did fail to invest in a striker AND so did Hoyle and Hodgkinson for several years prior. Hoyle and Hodgkinson have gone. Why don't you put your money in? |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Nov 19, 2023 19:46:32 GMT 1
I think that it is fare to say that Warnock recommended that Ward got a new contract, but Cartwright would have be the person who signed off on that. Anyone can have a view on the situation. The summer transfer window was appalling, but I am sceptical on the leaking on blaming it all on Warnock. I don't have inside information but it seems more likely that Cartwright is trying to cover his actions. Is Warnock whiter than white, I doubt it as football is apparently rife with dirty dealings. I just can't see him sabotaging his second season, but I can imagine a poor DoF throwing throwing dirt around. No no, it was definitely ALL Warnock's fault. Nothing to do with Nagle or Cartwright. Just Warnock. Remember when there used to be a middle ground? Now you've either got to throw your lot behind one or the other. Why can't people just admit and accept that all parties have to take some of the blame? My goodness the hypocrisy is just off the charts….. |
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Post by Big Ern on Nov 19, 2023 19:49:05 GMT 1
The owner has been in place 5 months and the way some people are pissing their knickers over him makes me laugh.
Waaa waaa we want a world class striker and we want him now
Waaa waaa we didn't get what we wanted in the 5 weeks the owner was in charge so let's run him out of the building
Waaa waaa
Get a fucking life
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 19:50:12 GMT 1
Hoyle and Hodgkinson have gone. Why don't you put your money in? What? |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 19:50:35 GMT 1
No no, it was definitely ALL Warnock's fault. Nothing to do with Nagle or Cartwright. Just Warnock. Remember when there used to be a middle ground? Now you've either got to throw your lot behind one or the other. Why can't people just admit and accept that all parties have to take some of the blame? My goodness the hypocrisy is just off the charts….. How? |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 19:51:36 GMT 1
The owner has been in place 5 months and the way some people are pissing their knickers over him makes me laugh. Waaa waaa we want a world class striker and we want him now Waaa waaa we didn't get what we wanted in the 5 weeks the owner was in charge so let's run him out of the building Waaa waaa Get a fucking life You're a hypocrite. You were slagging the owner off yourself a few weeks ago. |
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Post by goodbet on Nov 19, 2023 19:52:56 GMT 1
I think that it is fare to say that Warnock recommended that Ward got a new contract, but Cartwright would have be the person who signed off on that. Anyone can have a view on the situation. The summer transfer window was appalling, but I am sceptical on the leaking on blaming it all on Warnock. I don't have inside information but it seems more likely that Cartwright is trying to cover his actions. Is Warnock whiter than white, I doubt it as football is apparently rife with dirty dealings. I just can't see him sabotaging his second season, but I can imagine a poor DoF throwing throwing dirt around. No no, it was definitely ALL Warnock's fault. Nothing to do with Nagle or Cartwright. Just Warnock. Remember when there used to be a middle ground? Now you've either got to throw your lot behind one or the other. Why can't people just admit and accept that all parties have to take some of the blame? Your opening statement throws out any middle ground. You seem to think that Warnock worked out his salary and contract and got it approved without anyone else's input? I doubt it, as no manager can do that these days. I agree that Warnock is culpable, just not on his own. |
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 19, 2023 19:53:10 GMT 1
And no-one is expecting a world class striker, just expecting better than a 33 year old fucking has been that has been fucking shite at this level for years.
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