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Post by hd9terrier on Jun 3, 2024 18:55:29 GMT 1
Seems like we’re basically saying not for sale. About time we had some backbone as a club. Any club that wants him should pay over the odds whatever the exact figure is. We don’t have to sell, he’s contracted to us. Still young and got some decent potential and he’s still got a lot to prove at Town. If he doesn’t get a move he probably wants tough luck. Get on with it.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jun 3, 2024 19:04:17 GMT 1
Here is thought. “Why don’t we all just defend the club on this one. Yes you can have Jack. The price is £10million or go away”.
Great support from Kevin.
Coventry were looking for a cheap option, why should we help them ?
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Post by londoncowling on Jun 3, 2024 19:22:17 GMT 1
Remind me, how much did we pay for Diakhaby and Mbenza again? Not every club approaches the transfer window like a kid in a sweet shop like we did at that time. Deano was persuaded to gamble on those young french messiuers because they were “fast “ and they were “ cheap” compared to proven prem quality players turned out they were neither that gamble failed miserably seen better Sunday league players little ability and attitudes that stunk the place out |
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Post by duncfost01 on Jun 3, 2024 19:28:54 GMT 1
Not every club approaches the transfer window like a kid in a sweet shop like we did at that time. Deano was persuaded to gamble on those young french messiuers because they were “fast “ and they were “ cheap” compared to proven prem quality players turned out they were neither that gamble failed miserably seen better Sunday league players little ability and attitudes that stunk the place out Quotes Jonas lossl “they are very fast.” Full stop. Sad that our premiership demise was due to fuckwits running the club whilst Dean was trying to stay alive in hospital. |
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Jun 3, 2024 20:33:51 GMT 1
Seen someone on twitter mentioning that Rudoni will be appearing on one of Warnocks shows? Surly not? Only gonna end badly that! He was booked to do Wimbledon with Jack Rudoni last season but the gig got postponed when Warnock was announced as Town manager for the season just gone. considering how keen Warnock was to fling shit I’d proberly give it a miss if I was him, could get abit awkward! Seen somewhere that he also said Cartwright moved into his office after he left, Warnock knowing people have paid to watch him be himself it might get abit tasty! 👀 |
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Post by htafcdreams on Jun 3, 2024 20:49:18 GMT 1
We might get a few questions from the crowd to Jack and Neil
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jun 3, 2024 21:03:58 GMT 1
Rudoni made it quite clear he didn't want to be here at the end of last season. This only ends one way sadly with how football and agents are these days. When and where did you get this info from? I appreciate you would not be quoting without validating your source but I have not seen or herd anything. Somebody quoted it towards the end of the season might have been vlp fan club could be wrong. “Rudoni is desperate to leave” and a couple in the knows liked it. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jun 3, 2024 21:09:34 GMT 1
When and where did you get this info from? I appreciate you would not be quoting without validating your source but I have not seen or herd anything. Somebody quoted it towards the end of the season might have been vlp fan club could be wrong. “Rudoni is desperate to leave” and a couple in the knows liked it. Desprate to leave , he may well be. Weather he leaves is another question. If clubs don't stump up the cash, in either a transfer fee or wages, then he could well still be here come August. We have had players in the past "desprate " to leave, yet it took ages for the mto actually go, as no one wanted them that bad, to stump the cash required or just weren't as interested as the player's agent thought they would be. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 3, 2024 23:07:05 GMT 1
Deano was persuaded to gamble on those young french messiuers because they were “fast “ and they were “ cheap” compared to proven prem quality players turned out they were neither that gamble failed miserably seen better Sunday league players little ability and attitudes that stunk the place out Quotes Jonas lossl “they are very fast.” Full stop. Sad that our premiership demise was due to fuckwits running the club whilst Dean was trying to stay alive in hospital. Not sure how you can put those two events together, the “speed twins” were recruited well before Dean ended up in hospital. To say our premiership demise was down to fuckwits running the club, who hired these fuckwits? Dean ran the club his way, so the people left to run the club were the ones he chose. Anyway, it’s been done to death before and this isn’t the topic. I’m glad the club is showing some backbone here, I don’t get the impression that Jack is the type to throw his toys out of the pram. Can we get in a shooting coach though? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 4, 2024 7:19:07 GMT 1
I think the lad has got something, but if he doesn’t start showing it in L1 football then we might have missed a trick here.
I think we have some good players at the club, but they’ve been badly coached and have rarely performed as a team that actually knows one another.
Hopefully AB is the last frog we’ve kissed to end up with Duff.
I sometimes imagine how I’d feel at work if I was bandied around seven different line Mgrs in a little over 2 years. It’s happened and it’s bloody demoralising.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jun 4, 2024 9:21:21 GMT 1
I think the lad has got something, but if he doesn’t start showing it in L1 football then we might have missed a trick here. I think we have some good players at the club, but they’ve been badly coached and have rarely performed as a team that actually knows one another. Hopefully AB is the last frog we’ve kissed to end up with Duff. I sometimes imagine how I’d feel at work if I was bandied around seven different line Mgrs in a little over 2 years. It’s happened and it’s bloody demoralising. Do you not think after seven line managers the players would have a bit of self reflection? And think maybe the problem is ME? |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 4, 2024 9:38:08 GMT 1
I think the lad has got something, but if he doesn’t start showing it in L1 football then we might have missed a trick here. I think we have some good players at the club, but they’ve been badly coached and have rarely performed as a team that actually knows one another. Hopefully AB is the last frog we’ve kissed to end up with Duff. I sometimes imagine how I’d feel at work if I was bandied around seven different line Mgrs in a little over 2 years. It’s happened and it’s bloody demoralising. Imagine what it must be like for the players! Hopefully a clean sweep and fresh start after their holidays. |
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Post by runner76 on Jun 4, 2024 9:41:44 GMT 1
I think the lad has got something, but if he doesn’t start showing it in L1 football then we might have missed a trick here. I think we have some good players at the club, but they’ve been badly coached and have rarely performed as a team that actually knows one another. Hopefully AB is the last frog we’ve kissed to end up with Duff. I sometimes imagine how I’d feel at work if I was bandied around seven different line Mgrs in a little over 2 years. It’s happened and it’s bloody demoralising. Imagine what it must be like for the players! Hopefully a clean sweep and fresh start after their holidays. Full preseason with ownership and management all in place - that’s a good start….!! |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 4, 2024 9:47:52 GMT 1
Imagine what it must be like for the players! Hopefully a clean sweep and fresh start after their holidays. Full preseason with ownership and management all in place - that’s a good start….!! I still think we have AB's staff in place. Will Duff get his own back room staff? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 4, 2024 9:52:05 GMT 1
I think the lad has got something, but if he doesn’t start showing it in L1 football then we might have missed a trick here. I think we have some good players at the club, but they’ve been badly coached and have rarely performed as a team that actually knows one another. Hopefully AB is the last frog we’ve kissed to end up with Duff. I sometimes imagine how I’d feel at work if I was bandied around seven different line Mgrs in a little over 2 years. It’s happened and it’s bloody demoralising. Do you not think after seven line managers the players would have a bit of self reflection? And think maybe the problem is ME? I’m sure some of them have. But none of us know how these lads were coached. Were they asked to put square pegs into round holes etc., then a few weeks later it was back to what the Mgr from 10 months ago was telling them? In business there’s a term called seagull management. They come in, shit all over the place and fly off again. They’re typically management consultants with the gift of the gab. There’s plenty of businesses have failed because really good staff have been poorly managed. Of course there’s self reflection and we do have weak points, but just as we say it’s the sum of the parts, the opposite of that is also true. An organised clusterfuck is still a clusterfuck. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 4, 2024 9:57:06 GMT 1
Do you not think after seven line managers the players would have a bit of self reflection? And think maybe the problem is ME? I’m sure some of them have. But none of us know how these lads were coached. Were they asked to put square pegs into round holes etc., then a few weeks later it was back to what the Mgr from 10 months ago was telling them? In business there’s a term called seagull management. They come in, shit all over the place and fly off again. They’re typically management consultants with the gift of the gab. There’s plenty of businesses have failed because really good staff have been poorly managed. Of course there’s self reflection and we do have weak points, but just as we say it’s the sum of the parts, the opposite of that is also true. An organised clusterfuck is still a clusterfuck. Our clusterf*@K was never organised. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 4, 2024 9:59:25 GMT 1
Yeah, but it was our clusterfuck, and nobody will ever take that away from us… 😉
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Post by SacTown on Jun 4, 2024 10:22:45 GMT 1
Quotes Jonas lossl “they are very fast.” Full stop. Sad that our premiership demise was due to fuckwits running the club whilst Dean was trying to stay alive in hospital. Not sure how you can put those two events together, the “speed twins” were recruited well before Dean ended up in hospital. To say our premiership demise was down to fuckwits running the club, who hired these fuckwits? Dean ran the club his way, so the people left to run the club were the ones he chose. Anyway, it’s been done to death before and this isn’t the topic. I’m glad the club is showing some backbone here, I don’t get the impression that Jack is the type to throw his toys out of the pram. Can we get in a shooting coach though? AB tried to be his shooting coach. Seems like he shot himself in the foot. |
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Post by SacTown on Jun 4, 2024 10:24:43 GMT 1
Full preseason with ownership and management all in place - that’s a good start….!! I still think we have AB's staff in place. Will Duff get his own back room staff? Sure he will, but negotiations have to be had to get AB's guys off the payroll. |
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Post by specialun on Jun 4, 2024 10:50:57 GMT 1
I think the lad has got something, but if he doesn’t start showing it in L1 football then we might have missed a trick here. I think we have some good players at the club, but they’ve been badly coached and have rarely performed as a team that actually knows one another. Hopefully AB is the last frog we’ve kissed to end up with Duff. I sometimes imagine how I’d feel at work if I was bandied around seven different line Mgrs in a little over 2 years. It’s happened and it’s bloody demoralising. If he doesn’t show it in league one? Huh? He’s already done that 3 years ago when he got 17 goals & assists in a relegated team He’s already shown it (lesser degree) in Championship hence linked with a progressive club like Coventry He’s 22/23, he’s had to play every midfield / attacking position going except 9 in the last 2 years to fill whichever hole was the biggest as the rest haven’t been up to scratch He’s nowhere near finished product but will go on to have a great career Amazed some on here can’t see that Good on the club got holding firm - even if it’s a negotiating stance |
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Post by dm on Jun 4, 2024 11:12:29 GMT 1
If you take views on DATM as a snapshot, you have people saying get rid of 22 year old (nearly 23) Jack Rudoni who club(s) in the division above are interested in but then suggestions for players to consider signing are players from Cheltenham that are older and shitter and never played as high as Rudoni has because that's where the manager used to work. It's crazy. Cartright gets pelters for using people he has worked with previously (at a much higher level than Cheltenham) but its seemingly encouraged for the manager. Ridiculous  |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jun 4, 2024 11:28:29 GMT 1
I think the lad has got something, but if he doesn’t start showing it in L1 football then we might have missed a trick here. I think we have some good players at the club, but they’ve been badly coached and have rarely performed as a team that actually knows one another. Hopefully AB is the last frog we’ve kissed to end up with Duff. I sometimes imagine how I’d feel at work if I was bandied around seven different line Mgrs in a little over 2 years. It’s happened and it’s bloody demoralising. If he doesn’t show it in league one? Huh? He’s already done that 3 years ago when he got 17 goals & assists in a relegated team He’s already shown it (lesser degree) in Championship hence linked with a progressive club like Coventry He’s 22/23, he’s had to play every midfield / attacking position going except 9 in the last 2 years to fill whichever hole was the biggest as the rest haven’t been up to scratch He’s nowhere near finished product but will go on to have a great career Amazed some on here can’t see that Good on the club got holding firm - even if it’s a negotiating stance He got 12 goals and 5 assists in his last year in league 1 , the year before 4 goals and 3 assists . And the year before 1 assist no goals in 11 appearances. Just for those out there that may of read the above and thought he scored 17 goals and 8 assists in A season. Personally think the club are playing this spot on only sell very high or keep him as he will should be a good player at this level. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jun 4, 2024 11:56:20 GMT 1
I think the lad has got something, but if he doesn’t start showing it in L1 football then we might have missed a trick here. I think we have some good players at the club, but they’ve been badly coached and have rarely performed as a team that actually knows one another. Hopefully AB is the last frog we’ve kissed to end up with Duff. I sometimes imagine how I’d feel at work if I was bandied around seven different line Mgrs in a little over 2 years. It’s happened and it’s bloody demoralising. Do you not think after seven line managers the players would have a bit of self reflection? And think maybe the problem is ME? If I was him I'd think. A side that finished 9th in the Division above and played in the FA Cup semi final want to pay £2m for me - so Huddersfield doubled there money on me in two years Yeah it's shit we went down but I played my best when I went out, came third in the player of the season vote, have the chance to to step in my football career and the chance to earn more money as well If other players had tried as hard as Rudoni we'd have 22 £2m footballers being chased by top end Championship sides I hope he stays but wouldn't begrudge him for wanting to stay in the Championship |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 4, 2024 12:23:33 GMT 1
I think the lad has got something, but if he doesn’t start showing it in L1 football then we might have missed a trick here. I think we have some good players at the club, but they’ve been badly coached and have rarely performed as a team that actually knows one another. Hopefully AB is the last frog we’ve kissed to end up with Duff. I sometimes imagine how I’d feel at work if I was bandied around seven different line Mgrs in a little over 2 years. It’s happened and it’s bloody demoralising. If he doesn’t show it in league one? Huh? He’s already done that 3 years ago when he got 17 goals & assists in a relegated team He’s already shown it (lesser degree) in Championship hence linked with a progressive club like Coventry He’s 22/23, he’s had to play every midfield / attacking position going except 9 in the last 2 years to fill whichever hole was the biggest as the rest haven’t been up to scratch He’s nowhere near finished product but will go on to have a great career Amazed some on here can’t see that Good on the club got holding firm - even if it’s a negotiating stance I’m in agreement, I think he’ll do well for Town if we keep him. I never used to get the big thing about coaching and management until a few yrs back. Money always helps them, but it has to be spent wisely. Man Utd and Ferguson are a prime example of the stars aligning, and it struck me that they never went daft in the transfer market, just made a couple of really good signings that didn’t upset the balance of the team. I think we’ve obviously got some rebuilding to be done, but we need to be careful that we don’t tip the balance the other way by offloading players who fit the style Duff wants to play. Football used to be such a simple game, but it’s turned into an industry of hangers-on really, and geared to the top clubs staying there forever. |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 4, 2024 12:33:14 GMT 1
It's about time we started playing hard ball over transfers for a change..posh seem to get whopping fee's for their players yet we just seem to accept peanuts and let others walk allover us
Who the fcuk are Coventry anyway...they haven't a pot to piss in and their owners wealth is arguably lower than Dean hoyle,s
If Coventry even pay 7m I will eat my baseball cap
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Post by benhomly on Jun 4, 2024 12:41:16 GMT 1
Do you not think after seven line managers the players would have a bit of self reflection? And think maybe the problem is ME? If I was him I'd think. A side that finished 9th in the Division above and played in the FA Cup semi final want to pay £2m for me - so Huddersfield doubled there money on me in two years Yeah it's shit we went down but I played my best when I went out, came third in the player of the season vote, have the chance to to step in my football career and the chance to earn more money as well If other players had tried as hard as Rudoni we'd have 22 £2m footballers being chased by top end Championship sides I hope he stays but wouldn't begrudge him for wanting to stay in the Championship It wasn't good enough though. It's times like last season when you need your best players to step up and Rudoni, Thomas, Nicholls etc were poor for most of it. As someone said a while ago if Rudoni hadn't fluffed some gilt edged chances in numerous games last season we'd probably have stayed up. So if we're digging our heels in over the fee then good for us because he could be a key player for us next season if he stays. Coming third in a player of the season when you're relegated is hardly something to put on your CV. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jun 4, 2024 12:41:33 GMT 1
It's about time we started playing hard ball over transfers for a change..posh seem to get whopping fee's for their players yet we just seem to accept peanuts and let others walk allover us Who the fcuk are Coventry anyway...they haven't a pot to piss in and their owners wealth is arguably lower than Dean hoyle,s If Coventry even pay 7m I will eat my baseball cap They spent 7.9 million on wright and 6.1 on simms what they do is reinvest the majority of fees they receive for sold players , something our club as failed terribly in over the years. |
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jun 4, 2024 12:45:42 GMT 1
It's about time we started playing hard ball over transfers for a change..posh seem to get whopping fee's for their players yet we just seem to accept peanuts and let others walk allover us Who the fcuk are Coventry anyway...they haven't a pot to piss in and their owners wealth is arguably lower than Dean hoyle,s If Coventry even pay 7m I will eat my baseball cap "we just seem to accept peanuts and let others walk all over us" Is this really true though? Aside from O'Brien and Toffolo (one of whom had a release clause), I can't think of any players that we've sold below a level that we'd be happy with. In the Hoyle era especially we got some great deals as a selling club. |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 4, 2024 12:47:49 GMT 1
It's about time we started playing hard ball over transfers for a change..posh seem to get whopping fee's for their players yet we just seem to accept peanuts and let others walk allover us Who the fcuk are Coventry anyway...they haven't a pot to piss in and their owners wealth is arguably lower than Dean hoyle,s If Coventry even pay 7m I will eat my baseball cap They spent 7.9 million on wright and 6.1 on simms what they do is reinvest the majority of fees they receive for sold players , something our club as failed terribly in over the years. Yes it is...the one downside of Dean hoyle just trying to keep our heads above water all the time With what I have seen of kev so far it's clear that he doesn't back down on his opinion..I reckon 10 million means 10 million and not a penny less |
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Post by benhomly on Jun 4, 2024 12:48:36 GMT 1
It's about time we started playing hard ball over transfers for a change..posh seem to get whopping fee's for their players yet we just seem to accept peanuts and let others walk allover us Who the fcuk are Coventry anyway...they haven't a pot to piss in and their owners wealth is arguably lower than Dean hoyle,s If Coventry even pay 7m I will eat my baseball cap They spent 7.9 million on wright and 6.1 on simms what they do is reinvest the majority of fees they receive for sold players , something our club as failed terribly in over the years. Exactly, and if they only paid 6.1m for Simms there's no way they're paying even half that for Rudoni. |
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