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Post by pterrier on Dec 29, 2023 23:46:48 GMT 1
Have we signed Professor X ?  Is it ominous that he couldn’t remain standing for his introductory photo? You can see the lad has ability on the ball, but he looks so bloody soft and fragile at times! |
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Post by sabailand on Dec 29, 2023 23:56:26 GMT 1
I thought he played well tonight, got involved and made some good through balls and passes.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Dec 30, 2023 0:07:18 GMT 1
Another one that thought he had a good game. Good runs down the right hand channel to get us consistently out in the first 20 minutes and good work in the build up to our goal.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Dec 30, 2023 0:15:06 GMT 1
Just a poor player I think. The excuses of injury can’t be used forever. He’s not doing enough for our main signing of the season. When you consider some of the players we’ve picked up for free or minimal fees it’s a disappointment
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Dec 30, 2023 0:17:42 GMT 1
Another one that thought he had a good game. Good runs down the right hand channel to get us consistently out in the first 20 minutes and good work in the build up to our goal. I agree. It’s his link play that is becoming important for us. Works hard and I think there’s more to come from him as his fitness improves. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Dec 30, 2023 0:22:36 GMT 1
Wiles is a facilitator. When he's in the team, others play well. And tonight I think he played well himself. Big role in the goal. Looked far more lively than he has done. At some point, it's going to click for him in front of goal too.
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Post by rab030 on Dec 30, 2023 0:27:12 GMT 1
Wiles is a facilitator. When he's in the team, others play well. And tonight I think he played well himself. Big role in the goal. Looked far more lively than he has done. At some point, it's going to click for him in front of goal too. Agree completely - he’s a decent footballer and just needs a bit more time in a team that’s playing positively |
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Post by crux on Dec 30, 2023 0:32:12 GMT 1
I've been critical of him, basically he's been crap in most games. However, I thought he had a decent game tonight.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 30, 2023 0:32:33 GMT 1
Wiles is very rarely where the ball is. We had a period after they scored where everyone got on top of the opposition and he joined in.
He affected the game very little and has not affected many games previously.
He labours to be a box to box midfeielder, may be due to the injury but thats no real help to us.
Diarra should have come on for him at 1 1 but again thats not his fault.
Nothing personal against him as he looks like he is committed and giving it his best but 2 million(if thats what it was) looks too much by some tune.
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 30, 2023 0:37:42 GMT 1
I’ve been critical of the lad, but i thought tonight was his best game. And thought his performance in the previous match was his best. So for me he’s improving.
However, i don’t think he’s actually going to be fully match fit this season.
12 months ago was when he got his injury. Ironically on 29/12/2022 Rotherham played us and that was the first game he missed. He only played 5, 5 & 50 minutes in 3 of the last 5 games of the season. After the 50 mins he then missed the last match.
Probably didn’t get a fully 100% intensity pre-season. He played the first 2 games of the season, then missed 2. So when he started with us, he was most probably fit, but not match fit.
I’m hoping we sign a starting midfielder in the window, meaning Wiles would drop to the bench. Great option of the bench.
Hopefully next season he can start it fully match fit and we’ll see the very best version of him
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Post by belizian on Dec 30, 2023 10:14:29 GMT 1
Lacks energy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2023 10:18:05 GMT 1
I said in my earlier post he seemed off the pace first half. Sorba played a ball between two defenders into the space he should have been in but he was well behind play. I saw Helik having a word with him just after and it looked like he was pointing that out.
Second half he was much better, much quicker and sharper getting into space. Still not strong enough in the challenge on quite a few occasions but he probably still has injury concerns after the bad one he had.
There is a good player there but I think he needs to work on his fitness and confidence is a bigger issue. His body language when things don’t come off, he just seems to droop.
I am sure he will get there and more performances like last night will do him the world of good.
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Post by richhtfc on Dec 30, 2023 10:19:13 GMT 1
Thought he was much better against Blackburn than last night, when he seemed slower to the ball. Possibly just down to the ability of who he was playing against. Still played ok, and seems to be improving.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 17:57:40 GMT 1
Poor again.
What bothers me the most is his head down, throwing arms around negativity and someone mentioned it in another thread that he looks like a quitter. Again went off when he’d had enough.
Yet again a half chance came his way and he blazed it over the bar; he’s had a number of these and I never expect him to work the keeper.
Today we had no chance and I’d rather him than Diarra but he’s really, really poor. We definitely need to replace him with a first team, competent starter
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Post by Dillinger on Jan 1, 2024 18:02:30 GMT 1
Poor again. What bothers me the most is his head down, throwing arms around negativity and someone mentioned it in another thread that he looks like a quitter. Again went off when he’d had enough. Yet again a half chance came his way and he blazed it over the bar; he’s had a number of these and I never expect him to work the keeper. Today we had no chance and I’d rather him than Diarra but he’s really, really poor. We definitely need to replace him with a first team, competent starter Cost a million quid and only arrived in August, so doubt we'll be replacing him... TBF everyone needs time to settle in, hasn't helped we were forced to thrust him in straight away. Get the feeling he's the sort of player who will be better with better players around him... |
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Post by griffa on Jan 1, 2024 18:07:03 GMT 1
As a team, we give the ball away, far too often, Ben Wiles was dreadful today, just not good enough.
Too many basic mistakes & the odd goalkeeping error, God knows how many will we concede next week at Citeh!
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Post by crux on Jan 1, 2024 18:08:41 GMT 1
Poor again. What bothers me the most is his head down, throwing arms around negativity and someone mentioned it in another thread that he looks like a quitter. Again went off when he’d had enough. Yet again a half chance came his way and he blazed it over the bar; he’s had a number of these and I never expect him to work the keeper. Today we had no chance and I’d rather him than Diarra but he’s really, really poor. We definitely need to replace him with a first team, competent starter Cost a million quid and only arrived in August, so doubt we'll be replacing him... TBF everyone needs time to settle in, hasn't helped we were forced to thrust him in straight away. Get the feeling he's the sort of player who will be better with better players around him... Even I'd look better with better players around me and I'm 62, knees worse than Boothy's and got COPD 🤣. |
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Post by goodbet on Jan 1, 2024 18:09:04 GMT 1
Poor again. What bothers me the most is his head down, throwing arms around negativity and someone mentioned it in another thread that he looks like a quitter. Again went off when he’d had enough. Yet again a half chance came his way and he blazed it over the bar; he’s had a number of these and I never expect him to work the keeper. Today we had no chance and I’d rather him than Diarra but he’s really, really poor. We definitely need to replace him with a first team, competent starter Cost a million quid and only arrived in August, so doubt we'll be replacing him... TBF everyone needs time to settle in, hasn't helped we were forced to thrust him in straight away. Get the feeling he's the sort of player who will be better with better players around him... All players play better with better players around them. Maybe he just needs time, Rudoni, Kasumu needed a season to get to where they are now. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 1, 2024 18:24:10 GMT 1
Cost a million quid and only arrived in August, so doubt we'll be replacing him... TBF everyone needs time to settle in, hasn't helped we were forced to thrust him in straight away. Get the feeling he's the sort of player who will be better with better players around him... Even I'd look better with better players around me and I'm 62, knees worse than Boothy's and got COPD 🤣. Does Cartwright know about you ? |
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Post by goodbet on Jan 1, 2024 18:38:05 GMT 1
Even I'd look better with better players around me and I'm 62, knees worse than Boothy's and got COPD 🤣. Does Cartwright know about you ? He probably does as his little black book is years out of date. |
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Post by townarentbest on Jan 1, 2024 20:14:24 GMT 1
Cost a million quid and only arrived in August, so doubt we'll be replacing him... TBF everyone needs time to settle in, hasn't helped we were forced to thrust him in straight away. Get the feeling he's the sort of player who will be better with better players around him... All players play better with better players around them. Maybe he just needs time, Rudoni, Kasumu needed a season to get to where they are now. The difference with Rudoni and Kasumu is they spent ages with things not coming off for them but they just kept plugging positively away at it. Wiles seems like a very different person, he comes across like he's beaten before he even starts...something doesnt quite go right and his immediate reaction is to give up and be out of the next 5 seconds of the game, which is the time you're most likely to win the ball back. Much trickier to give the opposition 3 passes on the ball and then expect to go and win it off them. |
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Post by iainmac3inarow on Jan 1, 2024 20:24:21 GMT 1
Wiles back to the bench, Sorba back to wing back, Kasumu back in the middle. These 3 things need to happen for us to improve. As good as Kasumu had been in the 2 games previous to today, we sorely missed him in the middle today without Hogg. Its a far from perfect solution as we're then missing a body up top but playing Thomas there is just a waste of gas best attribute, I'm aware it was a case of needs must today.
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Jan 7, 2024 16:52:05 GMT 1
I think it’s time to talk about Ben Wiles.
He’s looked unfit, slow, weak, easily nullified, and a bit short on ideas of what to do on the ball.
For some time now he’s looked a level below the others in a fitness sense. It’s obvious that there’s a player in there, because he’s often occupying the right positions on the pitch, and picking the ball up in what could and should be dangerous positions.
It’s worth saying that I’ve suspected something is up with him for a while, and it was again quite noticeable this afternoon.
Is he carrying an injury, shot of confidence, simply playing in a bad team, or is it a mix of all three? I was pleased when we signed him, but I’m fairly disappointed with his performances so far. I know it can’t be easy to come back from a serious injury into a really poor team, but I had hoped for a bit more.
Anyone think the same, or have any insight that might explain his poor performances?
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Post by Larry David on Jan 7, 2024 17:23:42 GMT 1
He is a shirker. Having played football at a fairly decent level I've played with loads of these. Wants the ball to go elsewhere, doesn't show for it and just points his way through the game...ie pass there and not to me.
Looks slow, mentally unfit and weak on the ball.
Can't see what he brings
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2024 17:26:24 GMT 1
Held off using this term but he continues to annoy me. If he was a race horse he'd be considered lame and put to rest.
He's a quitter, heads gone and legs have gone.
Seen him 20 odd times now and seen the same performance time and time again.
Doesn't score or assist. Gives up, not fit.
Happens more and more in football now, look at Izzy.
Seems crazy to say it but needs replacing, we can't suffer any more weak links when we have 11 or less fit first team players most weeks and we're in a relegation battle.
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Post by sonny on Jan 7, 2024 17:30:19 GMT 1
He can't move. How on earth did he pass a medical?
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Jan 7, 2024 17:35:27 GMT 1
I think it’s time to talk about Ben Wiles. He’s looked unfit, slow, weak, easily nullified, and a bit short on ideas of what to do on the ball. For some time now he’s looked a level below the others in a fitness sense. It’s obvious that there’s a player in there, because he’s often occupying the right positions on the pitch, and picking the ball up in what could and should be dangerous positions. It’s worth saying that I’ve suspected something is up with him for a while, and it was again quite noticeable this afternoon. Is he carrying an injury, shot of confidence, simply playing in a bad team, or is it a mix of all three? I was pleased when we signed him, but I’m fairly disappointed with his performances so far. I know it can’t be easy to come back from a serious injury into a really poor team, but I had hoped for a bit more. Anyone think the same, or have any insight that might explain his poor performances? I've put in bold, all the reasons I feel he has been labored. I agree with you. Come back from long and lengthy injury, hasn't really made a great comeback, continuously playing through injury (players believe it or not still do it, hungry and want to justify that they can still play, rather than rest). Thus, the reason behind the lack of fitness per se. You do have to question the medical process at the time. I think we were desperate to try and bring in a bit of quality and it was pushed through so to speak. He is completely shot of confidence, I said this a few week back, I think with the additions coming in we will see him rested a bit more, put an arm round him, and build him. Like you, I know there is a player in there. I think Wiles is a better player when playing on the front foot and playing towards the opposition goal as opposed to playing in a low defensive block style team setup. I am confident (somewhat) that once properly rested, and then has fitness built back properly (not pushing through injury), and confidence built we will have a good player on our hands. I may be in the minority in saying/thinking that. But, technically you can see he is a sound player. Needs a few dominoes to fall in to place though. |
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Post by mightyterrier on Jan 7, 2024 17:35:39 GMT 1
Confident he will improve as the whole team improve after much needed investment
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Jan 7, 2024 17:35:55 GMT 1
He can't move. How on earth did he pass a medical? Same way as Simpson and Knockhert did. Only at Huddersfield Town |
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Post by harris on Jan 7, 2024 17:37:45 GMT 1
He is a shirker. Having played football at a fairly decent level I've played with loads of these. Wants the ball to go elsewhere, doesn't show for it and just points his way through the game...ie pass there and not to me. Looks slow, mentally unfit and weak on the ball. Can't see what he brings Think this is spot on. Not someone you want in a relegation battle. |
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