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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 27, 2023 11:10:14 GMT 1
Time he got a start? Has skinned his man nearly every time he’s played, along with Diarra the only player with pace to worry the oppo.
He always comes on when we’re behind and it usually taking his full back on with little room around the box. Let’s getting him running at a back pedalling defence on the counter attack from the half way line - like he did when he scored against Norwich.
The team definitely needs freshening up.
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Post by ritchie on Aug 27, 2023 12:01:46 GMT 1
Think fitness is still the worry, if he can do 60 minutes or not. Warnock seems to rate him
agree though if he's fit and strong enough he looks the outlet we need
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 27, 2023 12:06:35 GMT 1
Dont think Ive seen him play when he didnt have the right back on toast!
If he can stay fit he'll be a hell of a player.
Is playing him on the left and the new dutch lad up front instead of ward an option? I think we'd look more likely to score.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2023 13:28:03 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play
Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game
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Post by harris on Aug 27, 2023 13:33:28 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game Funnily enough he’s right footed. But I can see why you think that. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2023 14:49:40 GMT 1
Dont think Ive seen him play when he didnt have the right back on toast! If he can stay fit he'll be a hell of a player. Is playing him on the left and the new dutch lad up front instead of ward an option? I think we'd look more likely to score. Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2023 14:50:53 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game Unlike Thomas who crosses it from out wide every time he gets a yard of space. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2023 15:22:36 GMT 1
Dont think Ive seen him play when he didnt have the right back on toast! If he can stay fit he'll be a hell of a player. Is playing him on the left and the new dutch lad up front instead of ward an option? I think we'd look more likely to score. Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker. So we currently dont have a striker capable of playing up front on their own yet keep playing a system with one striker. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2023 15:32:09 GMT 1
Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker. So we currently dont have a striker capable of playing up front on their own yet keep playing a system with one striker. That's what he said. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Aug 27, 2023 15:35:39 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game His awareness of where the by line is, and exactly how hard to knock the ball past the full back to get the cross in, is superb. The only ways that full backs can prevent what he is doing now are. a. Block him and give a foul or b. Stay off him a yard; in which case he can cut inside. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2023 15:40:42 GMT 1
I think he would link well with Harratt. His crosses tend to be fast and low and often to the near post. Harratt does near post runs very well. I know it is only one aspect but it would mix it up a bit.
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Post by crux on Aug 27, 2023 15:48:38 GMT 1
Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker. So we currently dont have a striker capable of playing up front on their own yet keep playing a system with one striker. .... and yet Harratt played that role in the cup game when we had 10 men for most of the game and was a lot more effective that Ward had been this season. Also, Hudlin has been fabulous at controlling the ball with his back to goal - although pretty rubbish in the air for his size. Presumably Warnock didn't select Hudlin and didn't bring Harratt on yesterday, because it would have shown how awful Ward currently is in that role. Not saying they Harratt or Hudlin are currently the answer, but they're worth trying if Ward isn't working out. On Pat Jones, his last two cameos have been excellent and I would like to see him now get a bit longer if possible. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 27, 2023 15:51:09 GMT 1
Dont think Ive seen him play when he didnt have the right back on toast! If he can stay fit he'll be a hell of a player. Is playing him on the left and the new dutch lad up front instead of ward an option? I think we'd look more likely to score. Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker. Yeah I heard that too. I only saw him for a few minutes yesterday but he looked sharp, fast, strong and had an eye for where the goal is. Dont want to slag ward off but if he starts every game all season I doubt he'd get into double figures. Just doesnt have much goal threat. Not sure warnocks got that right myself. Think hes being unduly patient with ward because he obviously thinks the world of him. |
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Post by mosher on Aug 29, 2023 9:57:33 GMT 1
Dont think Ive seen him play when he didnt have the right back on toast! If he can stay fit he'll be a hell of a player. Is playing him on the left and the new dutch lad up front instead of ward an option? I think we'd look more likely to score. Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker. And the meltdown when Buzz said "the Japanese fullback"?  |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 29, 2023 10:01:23 GMT 1
Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker. Yeah I heard that too. I only saw him for a few minutes yesterday but he looked sharp, fast, strong and had an eye for where the goal is. Dont want to slag ward off but if he starts every game all season I doubt he'd get into double figures. Just doesnt have much goal threat. Not sure warnocks got that right myself. Think hes being unduly patient with ward because he obviously thinks the world of him. Danny Wardnock as he’s probably known to the rest of the team… |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 29, 2023 10:10:15 GMT 1
Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker. And the meltdown when Buzz said "the Japanese fullback"? Warnock also referred to Nakayama in a press conference at the end of last season as 'the Japanese lad' but in fairness to Warnock he's 74 years old and didn't have right long to get to know the players. Giggled last week too when he couldn't get the name right of that fella who's just left for Gillingham but I've just spent a minute myself trying to remember his name but it's gone from my memory now too, very forgettable bloke. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 29, 2023 14:52:24 GMT 1
Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker. And the meltdown when Buzz said "the Japanese fullback"? I couldn't remember it or bother to look it up. Then again I'm not the manager. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 29, 2023 22:47:40 GMT 1
Dont think Ive seen him play when he didnt have the right back on toast! If he can stay fit he'll be a hell of a player. Is playing him on the left and the new dutch lad up front instead of ward an option? I think we'd look more likely to score. Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker.Even though he is on loan. |
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Post by benhomly on Aug 29, 2023 23:35:38 GMT 1
Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker.Even though he is on loan. That’s better than the 2 jokes you’ve just put on Arty’s joke corner  |
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Post by ritchie on Aug 30, 2023 0:09:18 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game Have we ever had a player you rate? |
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Post by monkbar on Aug 30, 2023 11:21:35 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game And yet I think this exactly what Warnock struggled to get Gary Crosby to do. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 30, 2023 15:31:17 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game Have we ever had a player you rate? Cant remember one |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 31, 2023 0:37:07 GMT 1
Warnock said on RLeeds yesterday 'the new Dutch lad' is either wing or up front in a 2. He doesn't see him as a loan striker.Even though he is on loan. Quite embarassed by that schoolboy spelling howler. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 31, 2023 0:42:09 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game And yet I think this exactly what Warnock struggled to get Gary Crosby to do. I'd rather have a winger pulling it back from the line into the on coming forwards than looping a high ball in from the touchline 40 yards out with only Ward anywhere near. At least now and again. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 31, 2023 0:54:22 GMT 1
I’m not convinced about this one trick pony thing, especially when pace is involved. They’ll have to double team him, and even then he still got round the back of Norwich twice.
Same with Koroma, we all know his favourite move, as do 23 other teams, but he nearly scored with it again on Sat.
As a defender you know what’s coming, but if you’re a split second behind that shimmy, it could make all the difference.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Aug 31, 2023 6:46:33 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game He's right footed 😉 |
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Post by mosher on Aug 31, 2023 9:15:15 GMT 1
I think the more he played the more he will struggle. He's all left foot, pushes it to the line every time and uses his pace to dig out a cross just as it is going out of play. Defenders will quickly start to realise he isn't coming on to his right and just ease him out of play Hopefully they're working with him to develop more options in his game And yet I think this exactly what Warnock struggled to get Gary Crosby to do. Loved Gary Crosby, but running to the byline (even running much at all  ) wasn't really his game |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 31, 2023 9:26:44 GMT 1
I’m not convinced about this one trick pony thing, especially when pace is involved. They’ll have to double team him, and even then he still got round the back of Norwich twice. Same with Koroma, we all know his favourite move, as do 23 other teams, but he nearly scored with it again on Sat. As a defender you know what’s coming, but if you’re a split second behind that shimmy, it could make all the difference. Fnarr Fnarr |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 31, 2023 9:31:46 GMT 1
If his hamstrings weren't made of the most brittle material known to man he'd be starting every week.
If we can bring him on towards the end when we're chasing either an equaliser or a winner - or even as a pacy outlet to pin the opponent back when we're trying to hold on to the points - then there's nobody better.
If he started a game I'd expect him to go off injured before half time.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 31, 2023 10:23:45 GMT 1
And yet I think this exactly what Warnock struggled to get Gary Crosby to do. Loved Gary Crosby, but running to the byline (even running much at all ) wasn't really his game Plus he had 2 old fashioned CF's to aim for |
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