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Post by htfcterry on Sept 6, 2023 12:53:59 GMT 1
Sorry but this sounds like bollocks. Where is that stated? Why would he leave it 3 weeks before a season starts to make that choice? Don’t get me wrong I don’t like what the snakey prick did, but we gave him that decision to make by not backing him at the time. I was never a fan of the style of football, but he got results. He deserved a bit of money to have a second shot. He resigned after the Fulham away match. Various people have confirmed this to be true, including reliable people on here. Every time it gets mentioned, everyone kicks off and claims it isn't true, but it is. Apparently, he reckoned that he wouldn't have a better feeling than beating top of the league away from home and decided to resign. When he resigned in the Summer, he rang Hoyle up after Schofield was announced and asked for his job back only to be told by Hoyle that his job wasn't there anymore. I must have missed the fact he’d resigned after Fulham. What a ridiculous analogy given how many games unbeaten we were and where we were in the league. Well fuck him, his football was shit. We defied logic winning that many games under him - I wanted him gone after we lost at Barnsley away with the most pathetic performance I’d seen to date. We since matched that about 19 times under Mark Fotheringham like. The fact he went to Olympiacos (and others to Forest) didn’t sit well with me. It stunk.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 6, 2023 12:58:13 GMT 1
He resigned after the Fulham away match. Various people have confirmed this to be true, including reliable people on here. Every time it gets mentioned, everyone kicks off and claims it isn't true, but it is. Apparently, he reckoned that he wouldn't have a better feeling than beating top of the league away from home and decided to resign. When he resigned in the Summer, he rang Hoyle up after Schofield was announced and asked for his job back only to be told by Hoyle that his job wasn't there anymore. I must have missed the fact he’d resigned after Fulham. What a ridiculous analogy given how many games unbeaten we were and where we were in the league. Well fuck him, his football was shit. We defied logic winning that many games under him - I wanted him gone after we lost at Barnsley away with the most pathetic performance I’d seen to date. We since matched that about 19 times under Mark Fotheringham like. The fact he went to Olympiacos (and others to Forest) didn’t sit well with me. It stunk. I've honestly never known a more untouchable manager at Town in 20-odd years. He was even being lauded at the end for bringing his kid onto the pitch after the game at one point 😂 or for helping someone carry a pram on a train 😂
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Post by Huddy Town Black Sox on Sept 6, 2023 13:02:47 GMT 1
He resigned after the Fulham away match. Various people have confirmed this to be true, including reliable people on here. Every time it gets mentioned, everyone kicks off and claims it isn't true, but it is. Apparently, he reckoned that he wouldn't have a better feeling than beating top of the league away from home and decided to resign.
When he resigned in the Summer, he rang Hoyle up after Schofield was announced and asked for his job back only to be told by Hoyle that his job wasn't there anymore. Sorry but those last 2 paragraphs sound like fairy tales! When has a manager ever ... 1. Resigned because he beat top of the league away or 2. Resigned only to ask for his job back after someone else had been given it. Sounds like typical Town fan bullshit Chinese whispers, just missing the bit about him shagging the chairman's wife/daughter/son It was all very quiet on the reasons he left and the club never sought compo which seemed very strange considering how high his stock was, the length of his contract and how skint the club were. I cant think of another example where a club has just said, thanks, see you later to an in demand coach who was obviously leaving for a 'better' job. Aye, The lack of seeking any Compo is the bell ringer for me too,, Besides which Hoyle has previous for slating those who have left the building.
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 6, 2023 15:37:03 GMT 1
I must have missed the fact he’d resigned after Fulham. What a ridiculous analogy given how many games unbeaten we were and where we were in the league. Well fuck him, his football was shit. We defied logic winning that many games under him - I wanted him gone after we lost at Barnsley away with the most pathetic performance I’d seen to date. We since matched that about 19 times under Mark Fotheringham like. The fact he went to Olympiacos (and others to Forest) didn’t sit well with me. It stunk. I've honestly never known a more untouchable manager at Town in 20-odd years. He was even being lauded at the end for bringing his kid onto the pitch after the game at one point 😂 or for helping someone carry a pram on a train 😂 The whole saga of Baby Corberan was hilarious. He missed an FA Cup game for the birth, but was so private and guarded about anything outside of the job that he only said 'I missed the game for a good reason' the following week in the press conference. I believe the baby parade was the result of Hoyle telling him to make more of an effort with the fans at the final whistle, as he always used to dash off down the tunnel. Back to his old ways last weekend! 🤣
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 6, 2023 15:41:05 GMT 1
He resigned after the Fulham away match. Various people have confirmed this to be true, including reliable people on here. Every time it gets mentioned, everyone kicks off and claims it isn't true, but it is. Apparently, he reckoned that he wouldn't have a better feeling than beating top of the league away from home and decided to resign.
When he resigned in the Summer, he rang Hoyle up after Schofield was announced and asked for his job back only to be told by Hoyle that his job wasn't there anymore. Sorry but those last 2 paragraphs sound like fairy tales! When has a manager ever ... 1. Resigned because he beat top of the league away or 2. Resigned only to ask for his job back after someone else had been given it. Sounds like typical Town fan bullshit Chinese whispers, just missing the bit about him shagging the chairman's wife/daughter/son It was all very quiet on the reasons he left and the club never sought compo which seemed very strange considering how high his stock was, the length of his contract and how skint the club were. I cant think of another example where a club has just said, thanks, see you later to an in demand coach who was obviously leaving for a 'better' job. I reckon it was a lot more drawn out than we're led to believe, which is part of the reason behind the timing. There's no photos of him at the training ground at all during the pre season. His exit statement and his not leaving elsewhere for compensation too. It all stinks of NDAs
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 6, 2023 15:45:28 GMT 1
I've honestly never known a more untouchable manager at Town in 20-odd years. He was even being lauded at the end for bringing his kid onto the pitch after the game at one point 😂 or for helping someone carry a pram on a train 😂 The whole saga of Baby Corberan was hilarious. He missed an FA Cup game for the birth, but was so private and guarded about anything outside of the job that he only said 'I missed the game for a good reason' the following week in the press conference. I believe the baby parade was the result of Hoyle telling him to make more of an effort with the fans at the final whistle, as he always used to dash off down the tunnel. Back to his old ways last weekend! 🤣 I remember a similar episode after the Blackpool game on Boxing Day. Watched it on iFollow, and like you say, he always dashed off straight down the tunnel. This time though, he didn't. He made a big show of kissing his wedding ring and then went round the whole ground pumping his chest, they showed most of it on iFollow. It was so forced it was unbelievable. Someone had clearly had a word and told him to be more engaging. I don't mind managers if they're passionate or if they're reserved. But I can't do with managers that pretend to be something they're not. Honestly, it was so pathetic. www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/tv/humble-huddersfield-town-manager-praised-24105515www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/carlos-corberan-explains-special-bond-23764032
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 6, 2023 16:39:47 GMT 1
Would we have been in a better position if pride would have been swallowed by the chairman and he'd have been reinstated? The general consensus is that Carlos polished a turd, a squad devoid of decent players and had them playing consistently above their natural level/potential. Carlos was a tactitian and his decisions were usually right. He was a great manager for us. Following Town, you don't often get that feeling of looking at the opposition every week and thinking "we should beat these", and that's what Carlos gave us.That said, fook him. While I agree with the rest of your post, the bold bit: I used to come out of every match thinking "how the fuck have we won/drawn?". I can't recall before a match EVER thinking "we should beat these" while he was in charge. I've never been more depressed watching winning football, which felt like a damn weird conundrum at the time and feels even weirder in hindsight, especially with the first few months of last season. It wasn't exactly goals for fun in the Wagner promotion season either. c. 23 wins by one goal. But I still loved it, as I did in 2021/2 up to the final damp squib of the game. I think anybody who expects effective winning and Champagne football on our budget is deluded frankly. Similarly the law of averages would suggest our next manager will not make a silk purse out of a sows ear, as CC and DW both did, unless our budget dramatically increases. For that reason, I'd snap CCs hand off to return once NW sails serenely away. Not that it would happen of course.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 6, 2023 16:44:44 GMT 1
While I agree with the rest of your post, the bold bit: I used to come out of every match thinking "how the fuck have we won/drawn?". I can't recall before a match EVER thinking "we should beat these" while he was in charge. I've never been more depressed watching winning football, which felt like a damn weird conundrum at the time and feels even weirder in hindsight, especially with the first few months of last season. It wasn't exactly goals for fun in the Wagner promotion season either. c. 23 wins by one goal. But I still loved it, as I did in 2021/2 up to the final damp squib of the game. I think anybody who expects effective winning and Champagne football on our budget is deluded frankly. Similarly the law of averages would suggest our next manager will not make a silk purse out of a sows ear, as CC and DW both did, unless our budget dramatically increases. For that reason, I'd snap CCs hand off to return once NW sails serenely away. Not that it would happen of course. Wagner's football was excellent in the first two years and he had some great players as well, two of whom are the best I've ever seen here.
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 6, 2023 17:02:38 GMT 1
It wasn't exactly goals for fun in the Wagner promotion season either. c. 23 wins by one goal. But I still loved it, as I did in 2021/2 up to the final damp squib of the game. I think anybody who expects effective winning and Champagne football on our budget is deluded frankly. Similarly the law of averages would suggest our next manager will not make a silk purse out of a sows ear, as CC and DW both did, unless our budget dramatically increases. For that reason, I'd snap CCs hand off to return once NW sails serenely away. Not that it would happen of course. Wagner's football was excellent in the first two years and he had some great players as well, two of whom are the best I've ever seen here. Harry Bunn and Joel Coleman?
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 6, 2023 17:03:40 GMT 1
Wagner's football was excellent in the first two years and he had some great players as well, two of whom are the best I've ever seen here. Harry Bunn and Joel Coleman? Christopher Schindler and Aaron Mooy.
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Post by royrace on Sept 6, 2023 18:01:04 GMT 1
While I agree with the rest of your post, the bold bit: I used to come out of every match thinking "how the fuck have we won/drawn?". I can't recall before a match EVER thinking "we should beat these" while he was in charge. I've never been more depressed watching winning football, which felt like a damn weird conundrum at the time and feels even weirder in hindsight, especially with the first few months of last season. It wasn't exactly goals for fun in the Wagner promotion season either. c. 23 wins by one goal. But I still loved it, as I did in 2021/2 up to the final damp squib of the game. I think anybody who expects effective winning and Champagne football on our budget is deluded frankly. Similarly the law of averages would suggest our next manager will not make a silk purse out of a sows ear, as CC and DW both did, unless our budget dramatically increases. For that reason, I'd snap CCs hand off to return once NW sails serenely away. Not that it would happen of course. The Wagner football wasn't goals galore but it was brilliant to watch, controlling possession and seeming to out work the opposition week in, week out with a real defined identity to the play. The best football I've ever seen town play.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 6, 2023 18:08:07 GMT 1
It wasn't exactly goals for fun in the Wagner promotion season either. c. 23 wins by one goal. But I still loved it, as I did in 2021/2 up to the final damp squib of the game. I think anybody who expects effective winning and Champagne football on our budget is deluded frankly. Similarly the law of averages would suggest our next manager will not make a silk purse out of a sows ear, as CC and DW both did, unless our budget dramatically increases. For that reason, I'd snap CCs hand off to return once NW sails serenely away. Not that it would happen of course. Wagner's football was excellent in the first two years and he had some great players as well, two of whom are the best I've ever seen here. Never seen a Town team better at controlling a game & keeping a lead. Usually with Town teams you could be 2 up with 5 mins to go & still expect the worse, with this team once we went in front, it was usually game over.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 8:41:57 GMT 1
As far as Corberan is concerned... David Hartrick has all the inside gen (according to his latest podcast), but he's not letting it out yet. He did intimate that it was very surprising and quite an underhand thing that he did. The inside gen from one side ? I presume Carlos' take on it will be very different to Hoyles.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 8:51:16 GMT 1
The whole saga of Baby Corberan was hilarious. He missed an FA Cup game for the birth, but was so private and guarded about anything outside of the job that he only said 'I missed the game for a good reason' the following week in the press conference. I believe the baby parade was the result of Hoyle telling him to make more of an effort with the fans at the final whistle, as he always used to dash off down the tunnel. Back to his old ways last weekend! 🤣 I remember a similar episode after the Blackpool game on Boxing Day. Watched it on iFollow, and like you say, he always dashed off straight down the tunnel. This time though, he didn't. He made a big show of kissing his wedding ring and then went round the whole ground pumping his chest, they showed most of it on iFollow. It was so forced it was unbelievable. Someone had clearly had a word and told him to be more engaging. I don't mind managers if they're passionate or if they're reserved. But I can't do with managers that pretend to be something they're not. Honestly, it was so pathetic. www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/tv/humble-huddersfield-town-manager-praised-24105515www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/carlos-corberan-explains-special-bond-23764032But what if he was made to do it by some prick behind the scenes ? As you say, it wasn't something he'd ever done. He always seemed very studious and introverted. He came across like all that mattered to him was the actual game/result, interacting with the fans wasn't part of him.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 8:52:33 GMT 1
It wasn't exactly goals for fun in the Wagner promotion season either. c. 23 wins by one goal. But I still loved it, as I did in 2021/2 up to the final damp squib of the game. I think anybody who expects effective winning and Champagne football on our budget is deluded frankly. Similarly the law of averages would suggest our next manager will not make a silk purse out of a sows ear, as CC and DW both did, unless our budget dramatically increases. For that reason, I'd snap CCs hand off to return once NW sails serenely away. Not that it would happen of course. Wagner's football was excellent in the first two years and he had some great players as well, two of whom are the best I've ever seen here. 2 ? Edit : just seem your reply to someone else.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 8:54:01 GMT 1
Harry Bunn and Joel Coleman? Christopher Schindler and Aaron Mooy. I loved Schindler but I wouldn't class him as being among the best I've seen here.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 7, 2023 9:10:04 GMT 1
Christopher Schindler and Aaron Mooy. I loved Schindler but I wouldn't class him as being among the best I've seen here. Hence why I said "Two of the best players I'VE ever seen" and not "Two of the best player Porrohman has ever seen". You're about 30 years older than me and have seen 30 more years' worth of players...
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 7, 2023 9:23:13 GMT 1
As far as Corberan is concerned... David Hartrick has all the inside gen (according to his latest podcast), but he's not letting it out yet. He did intimate that it was very surprising and quite an underhand thing that he did. The inside gen from one side ? I presume Carlos' take on it will be very different to Hoyles. ... and Hartrick's.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 9:29:22 GMT 1
I loved Schindler but I wouldn't class him as being among the best I've seen here. Hence why I said "Two of the best players I'VE ever seen" and not "Two of the best player Porrohman has ever seen". You're about 30 years older than me and have seen 30 more years' worth of players... Fair enough, when you put it like that, bud 🤣
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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 7, 2023 10:18:42 GMT 1
Christopher Schindler and Aaron Mooy. I loved Schindler but I wouldn't class him as being among the best I've seen here. I don’t think I’ve seen any player make as many last man clean tackles as Schindler. His covering was first class.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 7, 2023 10:21:44 GMT 1
I loved Schindler but I wouldn't class him as being among the best I've seen here. I don’t think I’ve seen any player make as many last man clean tackles as Schindler. His covering was first class. Can anyone name a better centre-half for Town since 2003?
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 10:24:48 GMT 1
I don’t think I’ve seen any player make as many last man clean tackles as Schindler. His covering was first class. Can anyone name a better centre-half for Town since 2003? No. But as you said about it being down to age, I can name better ones from before 2003.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 10:27:00 GMT 1
I loved Schindler but I wouldn't class him as being among the best I've seen here. I don’t think I’ve seen any player make as many last man clean tackles as Schindler. His covering was first class. He was brilliant but I'd still put Paul Jones, Lucketti (mk1) and Monkou above him, in my time watching.
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Post by mosher on Sept 7, 2023 10:29:22 GMT 1
I don’t think I’ve seen any player make as many last man clean tackles as Schindler. His covering was first class. He was brilliant but I'd still put Paul Jones, Lucketti (mk1) and Monkou above him, in my time watching. Can't believe you haven't included Scullaci in there
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 10:33:27 GMT 1
He was brilliant but I'd still put Paul Jones, Lucketti (mk1) and Monkou above him, in my time watching. Can't believe you haven't included Scullaci in there His partner would be nearer that list .
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 7, 2023 12:37:32 GMT 1
I don’t think I’ve seen any player make as many last man clean tackles as Schindler. His covering was first class. He was brilliant but I'd still put Paul Jones, Lucketti (mk1) and Monkou above him, in my time watching. I am slowly coming to the point of view that you could have substituted Helik for Schindler in the 2016/17 team, and we would then be talking about him with similar reverence.
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Post by irverino on Sept 7, 2023 13:26:59 GMT 1
Think I would have Cherry alongside Schindler in my all time Town eleven (ones I've seen), both had great vision & timing on the deck & in the air.....We've had some gooduns over the years but those two more importantly did it at Town in the top division.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 7, 2023 13:28:26 GMT 1
Can't believe you haven't included Scullaci in there His partner would be nearer that list . I agree. His wife was a truly brilliant centre half.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 7, 2023 13:31:28 GMT 1
Genuinely, Schindler is the best centre half in the land, yes he is! that I've seen playing for us, and I've been watching since 1987.
Prior to him, Lucketti (Mk1!) and Monkou were also excellent though.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Sept 7, 2023 13:35:26 GMT 1
Manager loses games: Boo! Manager wins games: Boo! Manager doesn't acknowledge the crowd: Boo! Manager does acknowledge the crowd: Boo! Manager chooses to keep private life private: Boo! Manager introduces his family to the crowd: Boo!
That's been the summary of the last page on here. Who the fuck would be a manager, eh?
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