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Post by blue1003 on Sept 7, 2023 19:23:59 GMT 1
I'm certain that was in the Examiner report. That good enough for you ? Everything you want in a Town player, yet the only memory of him I have is the one from the Forest game, I mentioned earlier 🤷 ‘I’m certain’ For crying out loud you have accused a Man of being a racist in this day and age and yet still, you have no firm grounding for the accusation!!!!! ?. Porro, you cannot go around throwing such accusations based on what you have offered here. I.e fuck all. I also recall that The Examiner reported racist abuse of the bus driver in this incident. That, of course, doesn’t make it a ‘fact’ (even though it went to Court). I think Morrison got some sort of ‘light sentence’ (such as community service/anger management). I accept that memory can play tricks.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 7, 2023 19:43:32 GMT 1
‘I’m certain’ For crying out loud you have accused a Man of being a racist in this day and age and yet still, you have no firm grounding for the accusation!!!!! ?. Porro, you cannot go around throwing such accusations based on what you have offered here. I.e fuck all. I also recall that The Examiner reported racist abuse of the bus driver in this incident. That, of course, doesn’t make it a ‘fact’ (even though it went to Court). I think Morrison got some sort of ‘light sentence’ (such as community service/anger management). I accept that memory can play tricks. A balanced recollection of events, I have no idea if Andy Morrison is or isn’t a racist. What I do know is that you absolutely cannot throw such unfounded allegations around like confeti. Especially not in the current climate. One has to be dealing with fact when making such an allegation.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 7, 2023 19:46:57 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 19:48:30 GMT 1
I'm certain that was in the Examiner report. That good enough for you ? Everything you want in a Town player, yet the only memory of him I have is the one from the Forest game, I mentioned earlier 🤷 ‘I’m certain’ For crying out loud you have accused a Man of being a racist in this day and age and yet still, you have no firm grounding for the accusation!!!!! ?. Porro, you cannot go around throwing such accusations based on what you have offered here. I.e fuck all. I wouldn't have written it if I hadn't read it at the time. I don't just make things up.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 7, 2023 19:49:11 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 19:49:37 GMT 1
Thank you. I hope that placates Morley. The only thing that I didn't remember was that it happened in town. I thought it had happened I Scotland 🤷
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 7, 2023 19:49:58 GMT 1
‘I’m certain’ For crying out loud you have accused a Man of being a racist in this day and age and yet still, you have no firm grounding for the accusation!!!!! ?. Porro, you cannot go around throwing such accusations based on what you have offered here. I.e fuck all. I wouldn't have written it if I hadn't read it at the time. I don't just make things up. I do hope that you don’t work in the legal profession or are ever selected for jury service.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 19:52:42 GMT 1
I wouldn't have written it if I hadn't read it at the time. I don't just make things up. I do hope that you don’t work in the legal profession or are ever selected for jury service. Neither do I. "Where are they from ?", "Leeds". "Guilty then"
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 7, 2023 19:54:11 GMT 1
Thank you. I hope that placates Morley. Was he found guilty of any charges and / or allegations that confirmed him as a racist?. I don’t know the answer to the question, I suspect you do though. And I am then happy to stand corrected.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 7, 2023 19:57:18 GMT 1
Thank you. I hope that placates Morley. Was he found guilty of any charges and / or allegations that confirmed him as a racist?. I don’t know the answer to the question, I suspect you do though. And I am then happy to stand corrected. "TOWN STAR FINED FOR RACIAL ABUSE" kinda gives it away.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 19:57:20 GMT 1
Thank you. I hope that placates Morley. Was he found guilty of any charges and / or allegations that confirmed him as a racist?. I don’t know the answer to the question, I suspect you do though. And I am then happy to stand corrected. Fuck it, let him fucking sue me. Like I give a fuck.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 7, 2023 19:58:16 GMT 1
Was he found guilty of any charges and / or allegations that confirmed him as a racist?. I don’t know the answer to the question, I suspect you do though. And I am then happy to stand corrected. Fuck it, let him fucking sue me. Like I give a fuck. He's an hard bastard, he might drag you out of your car 😂
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 7, 2023 19:59:27 GMT 1
Was he found guilty of any charges and / or allegations that confirmed him as a racist?. I don’t know the answer to the question, I suspect you do though. And I am then happy to stand corrected. "TOWN STAR FINED FOR RACIAL ABUSE" kinda gives it away. Have you read the content of the article?.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2023 19:59:59 GMT 1
Fuck it, let him fucking sue me. Like I give a fuck. He's an hard bastard, he might drag you out of your car 😂 No he won't, I'm white 😉
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 7, 2023 20:01:17 GMT 1
"TOWN STAR FINED FOR RACIAL ABUSE" kinda gives it away. Have you read the content of the article?. Have you?
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 7, 2023 20:01:44 GMT 1
Have you read the content of the article?. Have you? I have.
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 7, 2023 20:39:34 GMT 1
"TOWN STAR FINED FOR RACIAL ABUSE" kinda gives it away. Have you read the content of the article?. So it was the word of Andy Morrison against the word of the bus driver, and a passenger, and in court it was determined that the latter two were telling the truth. And which version of events sounds more like Andy Morrison to you? Come on! The man clearly had anger issues
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 7, 2023 20:59:05 GMT 1
Shouting abuse at shite drivers when they piss you off should not necessarily make you a racist/sexist... etc.
I see soooo much shit driving on UK Motorways and in my experience it's 80% women. When I go past them and check to see who is driving the vehicle I will quite often think or say to myself "Stupid Woman"
Is that any different to making racist comments to shite drivers? *Minus the aggressive behaviour obvs*
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 7, 2023 21:09:27 GMT 1
Imagine a footballer driving a Fiesta these days.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 7, 2023 21:13:10 GMT 1
Have you read the content of the article?. So it was the word of Andy Morrison against the word of the bus driver, and a passenger, and in court it was determined that the latter two were telling the truth. And which version of events sounds more like Andy Morrison to you? Come on! The man clearly had anger issues What did the court of law find him guilty of.
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 7, 2023 21:13:34 GMT 1
Imagine a footballer driving a Fiesta these days. If I was a footballer or remotely famous - I'd be exactly what It'd drive day to day!
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Post by Carlito Brigante on Sept 7, 2023 21:18:01 GMT 1
I had forgotten about that 'rumour' at the time! . IIRC the story at the time was that he wasn't mentally attuned to play? Whats the real reason ?!!?! We're all ears! Don’t leave us all hanging here Morley
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Post by space hardware on Sept 7, 2023 21:39:17 GMT 1
He was brilliant but I'd still put Paul Jones, Lucketti (mk1) and Monkou above him, in my time watching. I am slowly coming to the point of view that you could have substituted Helik for Schindler in the 2016/17 team, and we would then be talking about him with similar reverence. Absolute bollocks 😂😂
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 7, 2023 21:58:40 GMT 1
He was brilliant but I'd still put Paul Jones, Lucketti (mk1) and Monkou above him, in my time watching. I am slowly coming to the point of view that you could have substituted Helik for Schindler in the 2016/17 team, and we would then be talking about him with similar reverence. I know the kids have just gone back to school... But you've been sniffing glue as though you've been without for 6 weeks.
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Post by Leporid on Sept 7, 2023 22:26:55 GMT 1
Imagine a footballer driving a Fiesta these days. If I was a footballer or remotely famous - I'd be exactly what It'd drive day to day! A bit like Jurgen Klinsmann's Beetle...
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 7, 2023 22:58:40 GMT 1
So it was the word of Andy Morrison against the word of the bus driver, and a passenger, and in court it was determined that the latter two were telling the truth. And which version of events sounds more like Andy Morrison to you? Come on! The man clearly had anger issues What did the court of law find him guilty of. He was convicted of threatening behaviour. I'm assuming your argument is 'ah, so he didn't get convicted of a racially aggravated offence! So he wasn't racist actually and the court proved it.' Threatening behaviour, like all criminal offences, had no provision for being racially aggravated until the 1998 Crime and Disorder Act. As the article mentions he was 27, the trial will have taken place in 1997 or earlier. This also means that if say, during his road rage Andy had stolen a ship and used it to exact violent revenge against the bus driver, he could've still been executed for piracy. Same act above abolished the last 2 crimes punishable by death penalty, the other being treason.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 7, 2023 23:42:25 GMT 1
What did the court of law find him guilty of. He was convicted of threatening behaviour. I'm assuming your argument is 'ah, so he didn't get convicted of a racially aggravated offence! So he wasn't racist actually and the court proved it.' Threatening behaviour, like all criminal offences, had no provision for being racially aggravated until the 1998 Crime and Disorder Act. As the article mentions he was 27, the trial will have taken place in 1997 or earlier. This also means that if say, during his road rage Andy had stolen a ship and used it to exact violent revenge against the bus driver, he could've still been executed for piracy. Same act above abolished the last 2 crimes punishable by death penalty, the other being treason. August 1997.
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 7, 2023 23:59:13 GMT 1
So did we beat West Brom or is Mr Morrison a racist? Well, I think we won, but I’ll keep my powder dry, because we’d rather throw accusations than celebrate an unlikely result 😆
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 8, 2023 8:15:48 GMT 1
What did the court of law find him guilty of. He was convicted of threatening behaviour. I'm assuming your argument is 'ah, so he didn't get convicted of a racially aggravated offence! So he wasn't racist actually and the court proved it.' Threatening behaviour, like all criminal offences, had no provision for being racially aggravated until the 1998 Crime and Disorder Act. As the article mentions he was 27, the trial will have taken place in 1997 or earlier. This also means that if say, during his road rage Andy had stolen a ship and used it to exact violent revenge against the bus driver, he could've still been executed for piracy. Same act above abolished the last 2 crimes punishable by death penalty, the other being treason. Shit, have they got rid of the death penalty for treason ? I was looking forward to Farage and Bozo finally getting their just desserts 🤬
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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 8, 2023 8:18:05 GMT 1
Well we wobbled well off topic there but it was a lot more interesting than most of the recent wobbles.
I am intrigued by where @htafcok got the Examiner archive articles from.
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