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Post by willo on Sept 17, 2023 0:05:29 GMT 1
Just for a bit of contrast, I thought he was one of our worst two or three players today, and demonstrated exactly why, despite everything, Danny Ward gets straight into the XI if he's available. Won very little in the air or on the ground, knocked off the ball really easily, gave it away when in control, sluggish at full pelt, and his decision making and quality in the box was woeful. Looks like at this stage of his career he needs a good run of regular games in League 1 to me 🤷♂️ If Harratt keeps up that level of performance, and hopefully improves, I'd be disappointed if Ward got back in. Funny how people see it differently. Thought Harratt played ok today, love how he puts himself about and he has confidence in his ability given his post match interview on Radio Leeds. Missed a glaring chance to score but at least he was there, doubt Danny would have been in the same position in the first place.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Sept 17, 2023 7:13:12 GMT 1
I wonder if the fans would be as forgiving if Ward was presented with the two chances Harratt had today?
Thought Kian did well though, lots of energy, linked well with Delano.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 17, 2023 8:00:58 GMT 1
Hope to god it’s not Hughes as new manager as Harrett absolutely hated him from his time at Sadford. The Mark Hughes rumour is just bizarre. Why would we employ a current League 2 manager who is hardly pulling up any trees at Bradford and whose managerial track record is poor? I'm guessing it's lazy journalism, linking our DoF from their time at Stoke. One of the most well resourced clubs at that level and they're 17th. I'm working on the premise that this is his last manager/head coach job above non-league.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 17, 2023 8:11:23 GMT 1
Hope to god it’s not Hughes as new manager as Harrett absolutely hated him from his time at Sadford. The Mark Hughes rumour is just bizarre. Why would we employ a current League 2 manager who is hardly pulling up any trees at Bradford and whose managerial track record is poor? A number of regulars on her are wind up merchants that enjoy the reactions.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 17, 2023 8:17:16 GMT 1
He was absolutely fine today, but it was very Danny Ward in the sense that he ran around a lot, but struggled in front of goal. If Ward had missed that chance first half the pitchforks would have been out. Interesting to see how Harratt gets on against stronger opposition. He ran around a lot, but his instinct is to run at the goal to get a chance to score. Ward prefers to drop off and link up play. Harratt’s scoring record in the younger age groups is very good. If he gets those chances regularly I’d expect him to start scoring and then he’s away.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 17, 2023 8:22:51 GMT 1
The Mark Hughes rumour is just bizarre. Why would we employ a current League 2 manager who is hardly pulling up any trees at Bradford and whose managerial track record is poor? I'm guessing it's lazy journalism, linking our DoF from their time at Stoke.One of the most well resourced clubs at that level and they're 17th. I'm working on the premise that this is his last manager/head coach job above non-league. I’m guessing it’s more likely down to a single post from a poster on here (who has previous for posting outlandish statements as fact).
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Post by Dillinger on Sept 17, 2023 9:02:09 GMT 1
Competed well, and did alot of ratting but I was really disappointed with how he took his two chances. A decent striker scores both of his, and he didn't get a shot on goal for either...
Looks as though he'll be useful as a link up player, but can't see him being 20 goals a season..
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Post by alexdire on Sept 17, 2023 9:47:39 GMT 1
Just for a bit of contrast, I thought he was one of our worst two or three players today, and demonstrated exactly why, despite everything, Danny Ward gets straight into the XI if he's available. Won very little in the air or on the ground, knocked off the ball really easily, gave it away when in control, sluggish at full pelt, and his decision making and quality in the box was woeful. Looks like at this stage of his career he needs a good run of regular games in League 1 to me 🤷♂️ The two chances he missed. Yes Harratt should have scored them both. But they wouldn't have been chances with Ward on the pitch, he'd have been nowhere near those crosses. Harratt won more headers, found more players with his passing and more importantly got in the box. Far more than Ward does.
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Post by Sparrow on Sept 17, 2023 9:58:03 GMT 1
One of the things i liked about his interview was that he knew why he’d missed the first chance and didn’t make any excuses. Knows the mistake he made, knows he should have scored (same with the other chance) so hopefully knows what to do next time.
I was really impressed with him today
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 17, 2023 10:31:09 GMT 1
Competed well, and did alot of ratting but I was really disappointed with how he took his two chances. A decent striker scores both of his, and he didn't get a shot on goal for either... Looks as though he'll be useful as a link up player, but can't see him being 20 goals a season.. I've seen Rhodes miss worse than that and he's the best finisher I've seen at Town. Ironically, it's my understanding that Harratt was a fox in the box and scored for fun in the younger age groups, but was very one dimensional and lacked more to his game, so I've actually been pleasantly surprised to see him showing a bit of of vision and nice touches too. I'm sure the goals will come.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 17, 2023 10:39:58 GMT 1
Just for a bit of contrast, I thought he was one of our worst two or three players today, and demonstrated exactly why, despite everything, Danny Ward gets straight into the XI if he's available. Won very little in the air or on the ground, knocked off the ball really easily, gave it away when in control, sluggish at full pelt, and his decision making and quality in the box was woeful. Looks like at this stage of his career he needs a good run of regular games in League 1 to me 🤷♂️ The two chances he missed. Yes Harratt should have scored them both. But they wouldn't have been chances with Ward on the pitch, he'd have been nowhere near those crosses. Harratt won more headers, found more players with his passing and more importantly got in the box. Far more than Ward does. As much as I reckon Harratt did enough, after about 30 mins, to warrant a run in the side, it does my nut in, this defending one player, by dishing shit out to another. Ward has scored plenty of goals over his career, whilst he's often playing under instruction, including in a different formation and in games where we sit back and absorb pressure.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 17, 2023 11:07:00 GMT 1
The two chances he missed. Yes Harratt should have scored them both. But they wouldn't have been chances with Ward on the pitch, he'd have been nowhere near those crosses. Harratt won more headers, found more players with his passing and more importantly got in the box. Far more than Ward does. As much as I reckon Harratt did enough, after about 30 mins, to warrant a run in the side, it does my nut in, this defending one player, by dishing shit out to another. Ward has scored plenty of goals over his career, whilst he's often playing under instruction, including in a different formation and in games where we sit back and absorb pressure. This is true. I’ve lost count of the games I’ve seen where Ward, up top on his own, is expected to hold up play, chase people down and be a threat in the box and all with a minuscule amount of service.
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 17, 2023 11:41:35 GMT 1
The two chances he missed. Yes Harratt should have scored them both. But they wouldn't have been chances with Ward on the pitch, he'd have been nowhere near those crosses. Harratt won more headers, found more players with his passing and more importantly got in the box. Far more than Ward does. As much as I reckon Harratt did enough, after about 30 mins, to warrant a run in the side, it does my nut in, this defending one player, by dishing shit out to another. Ward has scored plenty of goals over his career, whilst he's often playing under instruction, including in a different formation and in games where we sit back and absorb pressure. Especially when the facts are made up! Harrat gave the ball away from 45% of his passes, won just 50% of aerial challenges and simply lost possession 16 times whilst on the ball, whilst only being fouled once. That's not the stats that a player has when the defenders don't fancy facing him.
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Post by willo on Sept 17, 2023 11:52:27 GMT 1
As much as I reckon Harratt did enough, after about 30 mins, to warrant a run in the side, it does my nut in, this defending one player, by dishing shit out to another. Ward has scored plenty of goals over his career, whilst he's often playing under instruction, including in a different formation and in games where we sit back and absorb pressure. Especially when the facts are made up! Harrat gave the ball away from 45% of his passes, won just 50% of aerial challenges and simply lost possession 16 times whilst on the ball, whilst only being fouled once. That's not the stats that a player has when the defenders don't fancy facing him. Early days for Harratt playing in the first team. Prefer to judge him at the halfway mark assuming he gets a run of games starting in the first 11.
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Post by emleyterrier on Sept 17, 2023 11:55:32 GMT 1
Harratt was mint yesterday.
Ran after every ball, didn't shy away in the aerial duals. He linked up very well with the players around him.
He's just turned 21, that was his first championship start, yet people have to nitpick him down to the nth degree.
It's a joke, the same happened with Scott High and Ryan Schofield. 'Fans' just get on our academy player's backs because they aren't the finished article and just write them off. You could tell that High and Schofield's confidence got minced by the fan criticism.
Harratt set up the winner vs West Brom, scored in the cup vs 'boro, so if we are going down the attacking output route, what has Ward done this year? 0 goals 0 assists.
We won 2-0, it's not like it was 0-0 and Harratt missed loads of chances.
It is ok to be objectionable about how he (and any player for that matter) played, but a lot of the comments are just negative for the sake of it and it's just sad to read.
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Post by ACW on Sept 17, 2023 12:11:44 GMT 1
As much as I reckon Harratt did enough, after about 30 mins, to warrant a run in the side, it does my nut in, this defending one player, by dishing shit out to another. Ward has scored plenty of goals over his career, whilst he's often playing under instruction, including in a different formation and in games where we sit back and absorb pressure. Especially when the facts are made up! Harrat gave the ball away from 45% of his passes, won just 50% of aerial challenges and simply lost possession 16 times whilst on the ball, whilst only being fouled once. That's not the stats that a player has when the defenders don't fancy facing him. The whole team's passing accuracy was only 58% yesterday. Harratt was hardly alone in giving the ball away. No one is criticising the team as a whole for giving the ball away 42% of the time - nearly half of the time. I'll bet Wards stats are the same or worse most games. We play a style that does not encourage lots of accurate passing. It's largely percentage football that relies on 2-3 pass combinations to create chances. And lots of crosses.
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Post by drumriggend on Sept 17, 2023 12:40:29 GMT 1
Showed some great touches and link up play..
However he did miss 2 great chances..
What I don’t understand is how neither of them are shown on the extended highlights..
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 17, 2023 12:58:47 GMT 1
As much as I reckon Harratt did enough, after about 30 mins, to warrant a run in the side, it does my nut in, this defending one player, by dishing shit out to another. Ward has scored plenty of goals over his career, whilst he's often playing under instruction, including in a different formation and in games where we sit back and absorb pressure. Especially when the facts are made up! Harrat gave the ball away from 45% of his passes, won just 50% of aerial challenges and simply lost possession 16 times whilst on the ball, whilst only being fouled once. That's not the stats that a player has when the defenders don't fancy facing him. If you’re a centre half you’d be disappointed losing half of your aerial challenges, especially against a smaller centre forward making his first start at that level.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 17, 2023 15:38:47 GMT 1
Thought he had a great game. Very strong for a kid his age, won more than his fair share of headers and didnt just flick them on anywhere, he managed to steer them into the area of a team mate. Worked his socks off throughout. he'll be gutted he didnt take at least 1 of the 2 excellent chances he had, but overall a really good performance IMO. Had to laugh at his interview on the way home..couldnt have sounded more like he'd just stepped out of Kes! Surprised he didnt mention 'Our Judd'
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 17, 2023 15:42:14 GMT 1
Especially when the facts are made up! Harrat gave the ball away from 45% of his passes, won just 50% of aerial challenges and simply lost possession 16 times whilst on the ball, whilst only being fouled once. That's not the stats that a player has when the defenders don't fancy facing him. The whole team's passing accuracy was only 58% yesterday. Harratt was hardly alone in giving the ball away. No one is criticising the team as a whole for giving the ball away 42% of the time - nearly half of the time. I'll bet Wards stats are the same or worse most games. We play a style that does not encourage lots of accurate passing. It's largely percentage football that relies on 2-3 pass combinations to create chances. And lots of crosses. Exactly. teams now have really high passing accuracy stats because they spend ages knocking it about to each in pretty pointless spells of possession. We dont do barely any of that and especially didnt yesterday. It was a typical Warnock style from days gone by..win the ball and get it forward quickly.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 17, 2023 15:51:03 GMT 1
Thought he had a great game. Very strong for a kid his age, won more than his fair share of headers and didnt just flick them on anywhere, he managed to steer them into the area of a team mate. Worked his socks off throughout. he'll be gutted he didnt take at least 1 of the 2 excellent chances he had, but overall a really good performance IMO. Had to laugh at his interview on the way home..couldnt have sounded more like he'd just stepped out of Kes! Surprised he didnt mention 'Our Judd' Made Brian Glover sound like bleeding Rees-Mogg.
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Post by Dan on Sept 17, 2023 15:58:32 GMT 1
Hopefully the silver lining of a disappointing ending to the transfer window is this lad getting more chances.
Really enjoy watching him play, love his interviews, you can't help but root for him. Would love him to be Town's next star striker - would be more satisfying for it be a local academy lad than a Clarke-Harris etc
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 17, 2023 16:02:10 GMT 1
Showed some great touches and link up play.. However he did miss 2 great chances.. What I don’t understand is how neither of them are shown on the extended highlights.. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Are they on the red button?
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 17, 2023 16:05:24 GMT 1
I thought Kian did really well after a slow start, ironically, I reckon the left foot shot would have been ideal for Danny & I'd have backed him to score. Kian linked up really well 2nd half & the Rotherham CBs will know they've been in a game, overall, Kian ensured we didn't miss Danny.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2023 16:07:12 GMT 1
Missed the game, but gather he was a hare's breadth away from scoring.
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Post by Dan on Sept 19, 2023 11:42:51 GMT 1
Little interview with him in Yorkshire Post today, really like his confidence. His work rate on Saturday was particularly impressive for someone who's just got a 3 year contract, no resting on his laurels, played the game like it was his last.
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Harratt, who received kind words early on in his loan spell at Bradford last season from Mark Hughes, said: "He was a good player himself, a striker, and they were kind words and I’ll take them on board. But I’m myself and you have to do your own thing.
"This league’s physical and has got big centre-halves and you have to handle that.
"I think I can dominate them to be fair - I don’t see many defenders in the league that I can’t dominate.
"I’m a confident lad and I will continue to do it. I feel comfortable at this level.
"I’ve had experience in other places, like League Two which is probably more physical than the Championship. I’ve learnt a lot and think I’m doing well."
Harratt missed a glorious chance to find the net on Saturday when he skied a second-half chance.
In terms of his overall performance, the Yorkshireman received plaudits for his industry and endeavour, while also being quick to recognise the contributions of wingers Sorba Thomas and Josh Koroma.
Harratt, speaking ahead of Wednesday's game with Stoke City, continued: "Whenever you have Sorba and Josh on the wings, you are going to get good deliveries. They both have quality. I should have scored myself.
"Sorba is a great player and has got a very good delivery which strikers thrive on. It’s a striker’s dream to have someone like him in your team. I’ll keep getting in the box and he will keep delivering them - and it’s my job to finish them.
"We are a good group of lads and we will do a lot better than people think we will.
"Stoke will be a tough game, but we are home again and hopefully it will be three in three."
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 19, 2023 12:06:22 GMT 1
What he actually said was-
"Sorba is a grett layker and 'as got a reet good delivery which forrads thrive on. It’s a striker’s dream to 'ave someone like him in yer team. A’ll keep gerrin in t' box and eel keep delivering 'em - and it’s me job to finish 'em.
"Wirra reet good group o' lads and w'ill do a lot better than folk think we will.
"Stoke'll be a tuff un, but wi 'ome again and 'opefully it'll be three in three tha noz"
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Post by crux on Sept 19, 2023 12:31:46 GMT 1
What he actually said was- "Sorba is a grett layker and 'as got a reet good delivery which forrads thrive on. It’s a striker’s dream to 'ave someone like him in yer team. A’ll keep gerrin in t' box and eel keep delivering 'em - and it’s me job to finish 'em. "Wirra reet good group o' lads and w'ill do a lot better than folk think we will. "Stoke'll be a tuff un, but wi 'ome again and 'opefully it'll be three in three tha noz" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 After listening to his post-match interview on Saturday, definitely closer than the YP text!
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 19, 2023 16:05:03 GMT 1
What he actually said was- "Sorba is a grett layker and 'as got a reet good delivery which forrads thrive on. It’s a striker’s dream to 'ave someone like him in yer team. A’ll keep gerrin in t' box and eel keep delivering 'em - and it’s me job to finish 'em. "Wirra reet good group o' lads and w'ill do a lot better than folk think we will. "Stoke'll be a tuff un, but wi 'ome again and 'opefully it'll be three in three tha noz" Proper Yorkshire reporting!
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Post by deo1 on Sept 21, 2023 10:59:26 GMT 1
He’s going to be a very good player.
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