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Post by goodbet on May 5, 2024 17:50:56 GMT 1
More Cartwright bots spreading the blame possibly. If he'd never done it before, I'd agree with the doubters. But he's literally done it for much of his managerial career, so the argument falls down and it strikes me as just having a stick to beat Warnock with. I don't think that they care about beating Warnock, there has been that many poor decisions made this past year someone is doing their damndest to spread the blame away from the people who have been running the club for the past year. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 5, 2024 18:07:16 GMT 1
Thanks Neil, for:
- Not playing Rhodes when he was with us, then passing him off to Blackpool where he scored a bundle.
- Renewing Ward's contract for 2 years.
- Not keeping Hungbo.
- Letting the lads play Sunday League teams this summer and spend too much time on the golf course, ensuring we were not be fit enough for a challenging season.
- Criticising the guvnor, leading to all manner of subsequent upheaval and subsequent relegation.
"Thanks" again, Neil.
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Post by waggers on May 5, 2024 18:11:55 GMT 1
Thanks Neil, for: - Not playing Rhodes when he was with us, then passing him off to Blackpool where he scored a bundle. - Renewing Ward's contract for 2 years. - Not keeping Hungbo. - Letting the lads play Sunday League teams this summer and spend too much time on the golf course, ensuring we were not be fit enough for a challenging season. - Criticising the guvnor, leading to all manner of subsequent upheaval and subsequent relegation. "Thanks" again, Neil. You didn't say thank you to him for saving us from relegation last season. The 'guvnor' threw the first dig at the manager. |
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Post by htafcokay on May 5, 2024 18:14:11 GMT 1
Thanks Neil, for: - Not playing Rhodes when he was with us, then passing him off to Blackpool where he scored a bundle. - Renewing Ward's contract for 2 years. - Not keeping Hungbo. - Letting the lads play Sunday League teams this summer and spend too much time on the golf course, ensuring we were not be fit enough for a challenging season. - Criticising the guvnor, leading to all manner of subsequent upheaval and subsequent relegation. "Thanks" again, Neil. You didn't say thank you to him for saving us from relegation last season. The 'guvnor' threw the first dig at the manager. Plus, we didn't miss Rhodes at all last season. Hardly any complaints whatsoever when Ward's contract was renewed. Hungbo was a loan player. Warnock has taken his teams to play "Sunday League teams" in pre-season for at least 25 years. It's funny how the opinions change whenever there's a new agenda/narrative to jump on. |
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Post by Sparrow on May 5, 2024 18:24:24 GMT 1
People asking for cold hard facts as to why NW left are never going to get them and are living in cloud cuckoo land if they think any poster on here is ever gonna post facts.
The only people that know the facts are the people who were actually involved. I’m pretty certain they will never post them on here.
However, can people not just accept that some posters do hear things from people they consider as a good source of information. They may even hear things from 3 or 4 sources that are pretty good and pretty much all saying the same things. The poster then forms an opinion on what they think, feel, believe happened and then post that opinion on here. It may be true, it may be bollox or it may be somewhere in between. Why can’t people just read it and discuss it. Without slagging each other off.
Lots of people to blame for relegation. Nagle, Warnock, Moore, Breitenreiter, Cartwright, the players, the fitness coaches and medical team etc etc
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 5, 2024 18:30:49 GMT 1
Thanks Neil, for: - Not playing Rhodes when he was with us, then passing him off to Blackpool where he scored a bundle. - Renewing Ward's contract for 2 years. - Not keeping Hungbo. - Letting the lads play Sunday League teams this summer and spend too much time on the golf course, ensuring we were not be fit enough for a challenging season. - Criticising the guvnor, leading to all manner of subsequent upheaval and subsequent relegation. "Thanks" again, Neil. You didn't say thank you to him for saving us from relegation last season. The 'guvnor' threw the first dig at the manager. He postponed the inevitable by stroking a few egos instead of tackling the issues head-on. Those issues carried over into this season. We've got a massive pile of long-standing problems to fix. Anyone thinking we're getting auto promotion next year is deluded. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on May 5, 2024 18:48:15 GMT 1
People asking for cold hard facts as to why NW left are never going to get them and are living in cloud cuckoo land if they think any poster on here is ever gonna post facts. The only people that know the facts are the people who were actually involved. I’m pretty certain they will never post them on here. However, can people not just accept that some posters do hear things from people they consider as a good source of information. They may even hear things from 3 or 4 sources that are pretty good and pretty much all saying the same things. The poster then forms an opinion on what they think, feel, believe happened and then post that opinion on here. It may be true, it may be bollox or it may be somewhere in between. Why can’t people just read it and discuss it. Without slagging each other off. Lots of people to blame for relegation. Nagle, Warnock, Moore, Breitenreiter, Cartwright, the players, the fitness coaches and medical team etc etc Well then I don’t think it’s right that people are tarnishing his reputation when they don’t know any “cold hard facts”. Discussion yes but suggesting he has done dodgy things without anything to back it up is off in my book. |
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Post by waggers on May 5, 2024 18:48:26 GMT 1
You didn't say thank you to him for saving us from relegation last season. The 'guvnor' threw the first dig at the manager. He postponed the inevitable by stroking a few egos instead of tackling the issues head-on. Those issues carried over into this season. We've got a massive pile of long-standing problems to fix. Anyone thinking we're getting auto promotion next year is deluded. It's like you're slagging him off for 'postponing the inevitable'. Get a new manager in in the summer or keep Warnoch for the season, Warnock has been Warnock for decades if they didn't know that they're idiots. I don't believe anyone has us to get promoted next season, we're more likely to get relegated. |
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Post by goodbet on May 5, 2024 19:13:05 GMT 1
Look whatever issues anyone believes is down to Warnock, please remember that he left ages ago and the club had plenty of time to address any issues.
The fact is that the club ignored any issues and and continued to drive us to League one.
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Post by htafcokay on May 5, 2024 19:17:23 GMT 1
Look whatever issues anyone believes is down to Warnock, please remember that he left ages ago and the club had plenty of time to address any issues. The fact is that the club ignored any issues and and continued to drive us to League one. Indeed. I seem to remember David Wagner sorting out the fitness issues in 2015-16 and he arrived in November 2015, so surely it was do-able to sort out the players' fitness seeing as though Warnock left ONE month into the new season? |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on May 12, 2024 17:06:36 GMT 1
Taken an advisory role at Torquay Utd.
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Post by htfcfcfc on May 12, 2024 18:14:05 GMT 1
Aberdeen don’t seem to have fared too badly without Mr Warnock
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Post by Torquayterrier on May 14, 2024 21:56:41 GMT 1
Now joining Torquay Utd in an advisory role. I can walk to the ground in 10 mins from where we currently live so will keep an eye out for the old fella and wish him well from Town fans if we cross paths.
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Post by shawsie on May 14, 2024 22:06:30 GMT 1
Dont understand the vitriol here - the hierachy hired him for 1 yr ..... then fired him after a few wks having not backed him.....or players wudnt come or werent allowed to come here to work under him whichever you believe.
What was the point of keeping him for 8 or 10 games? Ridiculous to compound it by selecting a man who couldnt string a sentence together properly and whilst a nice guy off the field was simply inept in the role.
Then we get wagner mk3 whose only contribution seemed to be to piss people off and not nake us any better.
NW may have made mistakes pre season...but they were mild compared with those made after him!
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Post by alexdire on May 14, 2024 22:45:37 GMT 1
Thanks Neil, for: - Not playing Rhodes when he was with us, then passing him off to Blackpool where he scored a bundle. - Renewing Ward's contract for 2 years. - Not keeping Hungbo. - Letting the lads play Sunday League teams this summer and spend too much time on the golf course, ensuring we were not be fit enough for a challenging season. - Criticising the guvnor, leading to all manner of subsequent upheaval and subsequent relegation. "Thanks" again, Neil. We wouldn't have scored anymore goals with Rhodes sat on the bench. He's not good enough for the championship |
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Post by Moooooy on May 14, 2024 23:14:10 GMT 1
Dont understand the vitriol here - the hierachy hired him for 1 yr ..... then fired him after a few wks having not backed him.....or players wudnt come or werent allowed to come here to work under him whichever you believe. What was the point of keeping him for 8 or 10 games? Ridiculous to compound it by selecting a man who couldnt string a sentence together properly and whilst a nice guy off the field was simply inept in the role. Then we get wagner mk3 whose only contribution seemed to be to piss people off and not nake us any better. NW may have made mistakes pre season...but they were mild compared with those made after him! Giving Warnock another 12 months and then sacking him 7 games later was such a stupid decision. It’s worrying that most of us on here could see that it was a terrible decision, but the people in charge of the club couldn’t. It would only have made sense if we had been able to get an exceptional manager to replace him. Darren Moore was not that manager. Appointing then sacking Warnock was the biggest mistake they made last season and there were a lot of mistakes to choose from. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 14, 2024 23:29:39 GMT 1
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Post by kayeb222 on May 15, 2024 20:01:16 GMT 1
Thanks Neil, for: - Not playing Rhodes when he was with us, then passing him off to Blackpool where he scored a bundle. - Renewing Ward's contract for 2 years. - Not keeping Hungbo. - Letting the lads play Sunday League teams this summer and spend too much time on the golf course, ensuring we were not be fit enough for a challenging season. - Criticising the guvnor, leading to all manner of subsequent upheaval and subsequent relegation. "Thanks" again, Neil. We wouldn't have scored anymore goals with Rhodes sat on the bench. He's not good enough for the championship Do you think we should offer Rhodes a contract for this season? I'd be tempted to offer an extra year with decent goals and appearances bonuses! |
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Post by alexdire on May 17, 2024 11:55:40 GMT 1
We wouldn't have scored anymore goals with Rhodes sat on the bench. He's not good enough for the championship Do you think we should offer Rhodes a contract for this season? I'd be tempted to offer an extra year with decent goals and appearances bonuses! No not a chance |
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Post by waggers on May 17, 2024 13:27:05 GMT 1
We wouldn't have scored anymore goals with Rhodes sat on the bench. He's not good enough for the championship Do you think we should offer Rhodes a contract for this season? I'd be tempted to offer an extra year with decent goals and appearances bonuses! He's a decent League 1 striker, if he gets service he scores at this level. Seems like we're going for a complete re-start though so he'll likely be let go. Probably for the best. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 17, 2024 13:33:31 GMT 1
Is this a Warnock thread, or do all Rhodes lead elsewhere as usual?
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Post by kayeb222 on May 17, 2024 20:17:46 GMT 1
Is this a Warnock thread, or do all Rhodes lead elsewhere as usual? lol. All Roads lead to Rhodes by the looks of it. |
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Post by rockwall on May 17, 2024 20:20:55 GMT 1
Do you think we should offer Rhodes a contract for this season? I'd be tempted to offer an extra year with decent goals and appearances bonuses! He's a decent League 1 striker, if he gets service he scores at this level. Seems like we're going for a complete re-start though so he'll likely be let go. Probably for the best. Let's bring Le Fondre in then. Or maybe Rickie Lambert. You do realise players get past it? |
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Post by E4b on May 17, 2024 21:02:39 GMT 1
Off to watch him in York end of this month, can’t wait it’ll be a good evening.
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Post by waggers on May 18, 2024 0:34:34 GMT 1
He's a decent League 1 striker, if he gets service he scores at this level. Seems like we're going for a complete re-start though so he'll likely be let go. Probably for the best. Let's bring Le Fondre in then. Or maybe Rickie Lambert. You do realise players get past it? I did say he'll likely be let go and it's probable for the best. Plus, Lambert would have walked into our team this season if he fancied it. |
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Post by irverino on May 20, 2024 13:15:27 GMT 1
Aberdeen don’t seem to have fared too badly without Mr Warnock Junior Hoilet was mom again on Saturday & interim manager Peter Leven heaped praise on Neil & Ronnie saying he learnt a lot from them in the short time together..........NW certainly left his mark, maybe they should have given PL the job full time, heading to Barnsley next? . |
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Post by kayeb222 on May 20, 2024 21:21:58 GMT 1
Is this a Warnock thread, or do all Rhodes lead elsewhere as usual? The most important question we should be asking is - If Warnock had stayed would he have been able to offer any useful tips on how to sort out a flea infestation that doesn't involve paying a fortune to a pest controller?? |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 20, 2024 21:34:20 GMT 1
Warnock left ages ago, can this topic be anchored? Or under former managers?
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Post by kayeb222 on May 20, 2024 21:35:53 GMT 1
Warnock left ages ago, can this topic be anchored? Or under former managers? No!! 😁👍 |
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 20, 2024 21:41:57 GMT 1
Warnock left ages ago, can this topic be anchored? Or under former managers? No!! 😁👍 He’s not coming back, ever! He’s history! 🤦🏻♂️ |
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