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Post by HuddsTerrier on Apr 3, 2024 11:43:57 GMT 1
I think we dithered a lot in the summer
Decided to keep Warnock as a short term option. Allowed him to move out coaches like Nacho (we don't look as good on set pieces) and Clement (we've had good goalies for seasons while he's been in here) and then bring in Warnocks team on a 1 year deal on best (to match Warnocks contract)
Then we didn't really back Warnock, we loaned out strikers and never got one in!
To say in the summer we signed Maxwell (sub), Edwards (a League one player), Wiles (injured) and Dela (on loan) ... rank poor
Players like Hungbo moved on and most would have loved him to come back just to add to the frustration
I just think that July, August and September period was complete dither and indecision and sadly KN (who has been transparent and put his money were his mouth is) is ultimately the captain of the ship and responsible. Contrast January (when he was around asking the hard questions) to the summer and it's chalk and cheese
Moore was then the result of that summer. Decent record but not the right man and on a hiding to nothing as most fans wanted Warnock to stay
If we go down the responsibility rests with everyone; players, Chairman, CEO, DoF, Managers, coaches ... with the exception of Helik and a few of the players no one else has executed there duties well in the last year. C grades and downwards to the rest
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Post by waggers on Apr 3, 2024 11:47:24 GMT 1
Just said he would have helped Plymouth out on the radio if they had asked (thank god they didn't), then went onto say he's retired again for good this time. Although we all know he will be somewhere next season. Warnock at Plymouth would have increased our relegation liklihood even further. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 3, 2024 11:55:33 GMT 1
Just said he would have helped Plymouth out on the radio if they had asked (thank god they didn't), then went onto say he's retired again for good this time. Although we all know he will be somewhere next season. Warnock at Plymouth would have increased our relegation liklihood even further. Think it would have been the final nail after Rowett went to Birmingham, stunned Plymouth haven't got him, would have locked in the bottom 3 for me. |
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 3, 2024 12:14:21 GMT 1
According to the Yorkshire Post Warnock has said he's officially retired. So he'll be off to Plymouth next week I imagine
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Post by boooothy on Apr 18, 2024 23:30:25 GMT 1
Heard an amusing tale this evening of Warnock getting Andy Booth his first proper contract. Asked Boothy what signing on fee he wanted, 3k was the answer.
Warnock’s solution was to ask for 5k to go to Andy Booth who then in turn gave Warnock 2k. The sort of old school shit that was normal in the 80’s probably looked down upon from our current regime.
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 19, 2024 0:04:01 GMT 1
Heard an amusing tale this evening of Warnock getting Andy Booth his first proper contract. Asked Boothy what signing on fee he wanted, 3k was the answer. Warnock’s solution was to ask for 5k to go to Andy Booth who then in turn gave Warnock 2k. The sort of old school shit that was normal in the 80’s probably looked down upon from our current regime. I'm at the point now where I'd be surprised if ongoings like that didn't happen last season, especially with a certain Danny Ward |
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Post by drumriggend on Apr 19, 2024 8:41:36 GMT 1
Said it before I’ll say it again..
The problem for me was keeping Colin on in the summer..
It was a lazy appointment which showed no ambition or foresight..
All the other things snowballed from that decision..
I think AB will prove to be a good choice..
Hope he stays if the worst happens..
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Post by royrace on Apr 19, 2024 9:51:43 GMT 1
Said it before I’ll say it again.. The problem for me was keeping Colin on in the summer..
It was a lazy appointment which showed no ambition or foresight..All the other things snowballed from that decision.. I think AB will prove to be a good choice.. Hope he stays if the worst happens.. 🤞 Actually it's been proven to be a masterstroke, full of foresight. Problem is they went back on the decision. That's the mistake. They recognised they needed to keep him on in order to consolidate and avoid another struggle until Kevin had his feet under the table. Unfortunately some fuckwit(s) then decided we were actually in a position of strength, the squad was brilliant and any old manager would do. |
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Post by drumriggend on Apr 19, 2024 10:49:36 GMT 1
Said it before I’ll say it again.. The problem for me was keeping Colin on in the summer..
It was a lazy appointment which showed no ambition or foresight..All the other things snowballed from that decision.. I think AB will prove to be a good choice.. Hope he stays if the worst happens.. 🤞 Actually it's been proven to be a masterstroke, full of foresight. Problem is they went back on the decision. That's the mistake. They recognised they needed to keep him on in order to consolidate and avoid another struggle until Kevin had his feet under the table. Unfortunately some fuckwit(s) then decided we were actually in a position of strength, the squad was brilliant and any old manager would do. Completely disagree.. It’s that decision that caused the current situation.. They just kicked the problem down the road.. Colin was always a stop gap.. 🍻 |
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Post by mosher on Apr 19, 2024 10:56:16 GMT 1
Actually it's been proven to be a masterstroke, full of foresight. Problem is they went back on the decision. That's the mistake. They recognised they needed to keep him on in order to consolidate and avoid another struggle until Kevin had his feet under the table. Unfortunately some fuckwit(s) then decided we were actually in a position of strength, the squad was brilliant and any old manager would do. Completely disagree.. It’s that decision that caused the current situation.. They just kicked the problem down the road.. Colin was always a stop gap.. 🍻 Love King Colin, but agree; with hindsight it may well have been the wrong decision. But where I agree with royrace is once that decision was made, bloody stick with it til everything's sorted behind the scenes, within the squad and financially. Instead we got the clash of egos, the (alleged) back dealing shenanigans, waste of transfer and wage budget on Colin's son and other favourites and then the disaster that was Darren Moore. |
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Post by willo on Apr 19, 2024 11:06:35 GMT 1
Completely disagree.. It’s that decision that caused the current situation.. They just kicked the problem down the road.. Colin was always a stop gap.. 🍻 Love King Colin, but agree; with hindsight it may well have been the wrong decision. But where I agree with royrace is once that decision was made, bloody stick with it til everything's sorted behind the scenes, within the squad and financially. Instead we got the clash of egos, the (alleged) back dealing shenanigans, waste of transfer and wage budget on Colin's son and other favourites and then the disaster that was Darren Moore. Summed up perfectly. |
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Post by Dan on Apr 19, 2024 11:10:12 GMT 1
Heard an amusing tale this evening of Warnock getting Andy Booth his first proper contract. Asked Boothy what signing on fee he wanted, 3k was the answer. Warnock’s solution was to ask for 5k to go to Andy Booth who then in turn gave Warnock 2k. The sort of old school shit that was normal in the 80’s probably looked down upon from our current regime. Also partial to a decent slice of his players appearance fees in exchange for subbing them on in the 89th minute... |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 19, 2024 11:33:19 GMT 1
Neil Warnock, chuckling away to himself in his rocking chair in Devon, thinking “how the fuck did I get away with all that then”…
He won’t be alone in his shenanigans. But the game was better with these mavericks and characters. I always used to like Dave Basset.
Can you imagine one of the bigger broadcasters employing Paddy Kenny and Jamie Vardy as their main pundits in yrs to come?
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Post by boooothy on Apr 19, 2024 12:32:41 GMT 1
Heard an amusing tale this evening of Warnock getting Andy Booth his first proper contract. Asked Boothy what signing on fee he wanted, 3k was the answer. Warnock’s solution was to ask for 5k to go to Andy Booth who then in turn gave Warnock 2k. The sort of old school shit that was normal in the 80’s probably looked down upon from our current regime. Also partial to a decent slice of his players appearance fees in exchange for subbing them on in the 89th minute... Scandalous really. Amusing all the same. |
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Post by willo on Apr 19, 2024 12:40:35 GMT 1
Neil Warnock, chuckling away to himself in his rocking chair in Devon, thinking “how the fuck did I get away with all that then”… He won’t be alone in his shenanigans. But the game was better with these mavericks and characters. I always used to like Dave Basset. Can you imagine one of the bigger broadcasters employing Paddy Kenny and Jamie Vardy as their main pundits in yrs to come? It’ll never happen. They only employ vanilla style pundits like Jenas, Shearer, Richard’s, etc. |
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Post by Dan on Apr 19, 2024 15:12:14 GMT 1
Also partial to a decent slice of his players appearance fees in exchange for subbing them on in the 89th minute... No appearance fees after 80 mins. Maybe player contracts have changed since his Leeds days…. (1.18:30) |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 20, 2024 16:59:00 GMT 1
Imagine pushing this bloke out, getting exactly what you deserve Kev, Cartwright and Edwards. Disgrace the lot of them.
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Post by hasta el pueblo on Apr 22, 2024 18:18:29 GMT 1
Interview with Neil Warnock.
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Post by impact on Apr 22, 2024 18:57:00 GMT 1
Actually it's been proven to be a masterstroke, full of foresight. Problem is they went back on the decision. That's the mistake. They recognised they needed to keep him on in order to consolidate and avoid another struggle until Kevin had his feet under the table. Unfortunately some fuckwit(s) then decided we were actually in a position of strength, the squad was brilliant and any old manager would do. Completely disagree.. It’s that decision that caused the current situation.. They just kicked the problem down the road.. Colin was always a stop gap.. 🍻 We had a stop gap until we found the right long-term manager. I was fine with him staying on, I thought it was a good idea. It gave us time to work out where we wanted to go, who to hand it over to and what the structure should be. We then got rid of him for Darren Moore. That was the total fuck up. It made no sense to do it after the window shut but well before the next window. Sacking Warnock for Moore is one of the worst decisions this club has ever made. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 22, 2024 19:01:05 GMT 1
Maybe town got a sniff that Port Vale were looking at Moore and we had to act quickly.
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Post by johnb1 on Apr 22, 2024 19:06:28 GMT 1
Interview with Neil Warnock. Says he knows how he would set up for the Birmingham game - get on the blower Kevin |
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Post by Huddy Town Black Sox on Apr 24, 2024 13:32:50 GMT 1
I do like him but blow me he does spout some shite
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 24, 2024 13:49:24 GMT 1
I do like him but blow me he does spout some shite A bigger narcissist you will not find. |
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Post by boooothy on Apr 24, 2024 13:55:32 GMT 1
I think we can all read between the lines that there was more to Neil leaving than recruiting from a position of strength.
No doubt it will have been his love for a pound note above anything to do with football. No amount is ever enough for some folk.
No one comes out of it with any credit. Could have left a hero, now everyone doesn’t know what to think.
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Post by royrace on Apr 24, 2024 14:12:16 GMT 1
Interview with Neil Warnock. Says he knows how he would set up for the Birmingham game - get on the blower Kevin Warnock would probably beat Brum and get a point at Ipswich, which might be enough. Sadly he's not in charge. |
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Post by runner76 on Apr 24, 2024 14:23:09 GMT 1
Says he knows how he would set up for the Birmingham game - get on the blower Kevin Warnock would probably beat Brum and get a point at Ipswich, which might be enough. Sadly he's not in charge. Herbert Chapman might do a treble with us. Sadly he's not in charge. |
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Post by goodbet on Apr 24, 2024 14:39:58 GMT 1
Whatever.
If it was a good or bad decision we had plenty of time to fix the issue if the folk in charge could see or understand what they were dealing with. To continue making poor decisions and then making even worse ones have left us sitting on the edge of a drop to the third level.
We just need a plan the rescue us, staring with replacing the dross that KN put in charge asap.
We then need to hope that the new lot have a plan as to what kind of team they want to build and know how to do this. Ideally they are already looking at the mess that is Town and are putting plans in place on what they think needs to be done as soon as the season is over.
The summer break may be too short to get us ready for the new season if we are not ready to change that quickly.
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Post by kayeb222 on Apr 27, 2024 21:17:14 GMT 1
Imagine pushing this bloke out, getting exactly what you deserve Kev, Cartwright and Edwards. Disgrace the lot of them. I bet Warnock is laughing his fucking bollocks off tonight and to be honest I don't blame him!!! |
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Post by portugalterrier on Apr 27, 2024 21:27:44 GMT 1
Imagine pushing this bloke out, getting exactly what you deserve Kev, Cartwright and Edwards. Disgrace the lot of them. I bet Warnock is laughing his fucking bollocks off tonight and to be honest I don't blame him!!! Knowing Warnock he’s probably kissing his own bollocks, just before making love to himself 🥰🤑 |
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Post by kayeb222 on Apr 27, 2024 21:33:50 GMT 1
I bet Warnock is laughing his fucking bollocks off tonight and to be honest I don't blame him!!! Knowing Warnock he’s probably kissing his own bollocks, just before making love to himself 🥰🤑 Nah he can just get Sharon to pop her false teeth out and .........! Are you with me? |
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