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Post by ibby on Apr 27, 2024 23:46:17 GMT 1
Once he left it was good bye to the club.
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Post by willo on Apr 28, 2024 0:45:26 GMT 1
Been watching us since the late 70’s. Selling Marcus Stewart to Ipswich aside, THE worst decision to get rid of Warnock when we did in the last 45 years and it’s come back to bite us on the arse big style. But hey, club knows best! 👍
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 28, 2024 1:00:31 GMT 1
Think of him as you will but I don’t know one football fan I talk to who could make head more tail of why we let him go when we did.
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 28, 2024 6:58:13 GMT 1
I bet Warnock is laughing his fucking bollocks off tonight and to be honest I don't blame him!!! Knowing Warnock he’s probably kissing his own bollocks, just before making love to himself 🥰🤑 Why wouldn't he? He's the leagues most successful manager, but wasn't good enough for us, of course.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Apr 28, 2024 8:59:43 GMT 1
We were 16th when Warnock left with 7 points from 7 games. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66793441Our results Lost to Plymouth (away), Leicester and Norwich (both home) Drew with Middlesbrough away Beat West Brom away and beat Rotherham at home Drew with Stoke at home but it had already been made public Warnock was going before that game I have no doubt if Warnock had stayed we'd have got another 4 or 5 points and been safe As others have said sacking him with what appears no real plan ranks up there with Marcus Stewart in the "what are you thinking" moments of the club
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Post by sabailand on Apr 28, 2024 9:45:38 GMT 1
Imagine pushing this bloke out, getting exactly what you deserve Kev, Cartwright and Edwards. Disgrace the lot of them. I bet Warnock is laughing his fucking bollocks off tonight and to be honest I don't blame him!!! Not sure he'll be laughing his bollocks off, he genuinely likes the club, maybe a wry smile in irony might be more apt.
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Post by irverino on Apr 28, 2024 9:58:38 GMT 1
I bet Warnock is laughing his fucking bollocks off tonight and to be honest I don't blame him!!! Not sure he'll be laughing his bollocks off, he genuinely likes the club, maybe a wry smile in irony might be more apt. They bought his silence when sacking him so I guess we will never get the correct version of events, the one we were told about DM being the stand out candidate was a hideous joke......NW name trending amongst Plymouth fans who are questioning why his offer to help was rejected, main reason is the board opted for the cheaper option instead.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 28, 2024 10:08:39 GMT 1
The Warnock fiasco is the reason we were relegated. I’m sure in 20 years it will all come out.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on May 4, 2024 18:06:56 GMT 1
Anyone with any connection to the club knows why Warnock had to go. Everyone else just makes up their own shit.
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Post by DuncShearer* on May 4, 2024 18:08:26 GMT 1
Went for the correct reasons tarnished his legacy unfortunately
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Post by aca00js on May 4, 2024 18:09:20 GMT 1
I was sure he said he was doing the Sky last day coverage but no sign of him today
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Post by wigster on May 4, 2024 18:12:39 GMT 1
Mediocre results this season, players patently not fit after their jollies on their pre-season hols at his place (he knew he was only here pt-time), cliques already built up under him, "dubious" transfer dealings.
It's not rocket science, he is no longer a God. Went on to Aberdeen and same thing happened.
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Post by htafcokay on May 4, 2024 18:18:24 GMT 1
Mediocre results this season, players patently not fit after their jollies on their pre-season hols at his place (he knew he was only here pt-time), cliques already built up under him, "dubious" transfer dealings. It's not rocket science, he is no longer a God. Went on to Aberdeen and same thing happened. Two wins and two draws out of seven matches are "mediocre results"?
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Post by goodbet on May 4, 2024 18:34:18 GMT 1
Went for the correct reasons tarnished his legacy unfortunately Not the best reason for Town, no idea on how why it was the correct reason for him to go. I have heard enough whispers coming from Cartwright and co to try and make themselves look good, to take any whispered reasons from the club, for me to take any at face value.
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Post by htafcokay on May 4, 2024 18:37:28 GMT 1
So Warnock was trying to sign players that were involved with his son's agency.
What's the difference between Warnock doing that and Cartwright bringing in people involved with Beswick Sports, who he used to be an agent for?
Peter Jackson signed several players he'd represented as an agent, does that mean Jacko was dodgy too?
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Post by terryya on May 4, 2024 18:46:57 GMT 1
Mediocre results this season, players patently not fit after their jollies on their pre-season hols at his place (he knew he was only here pt-time), cliques already built up under him, "dubious" transfer dealings. It's not rocket science, he is no longer a God. Went on to Aberdeen and same thing happened. Two wins and two draws out of seven matches are "mediocre results"? Not even good enough to be classed as mediocre. If carried on for a full season it would have kept us up by one place,which we'd all take but is still well below average or ordinary.
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Post by htafcokay on May 4, 2024 18:49:33 GMT 1
Two wins and two draws out of seven matches are "mediocre results"? Not even good enough to be classed as mediocre. If carried on for a full season it would have kept us up by one place,which we'd all take but is still well below average or ordinary. With this bunch of players it would have been a miracle. If that's mediocre, I dread to think how you'd describe Moore's record.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 4, 2024 20:51:15 GMT 1
This randomly popped up in my Facebook feed re warnock so thought I’d share
Warnock finds the way to manage egos and harness the talents of maverick players in a way few can match….
Neil Warnock recalls some amazing stories from the days he managed Adel Taarabt:
🗣️ “On my first day at QPR it was red hot, but Adel Taarabt was still wearing gloves! The staff told me that I didn’t want anything to do with him and that he’d get me the sack. I watched the game and some of the things he did were unbelievable.
“I called him over and told him that the coaches had told me he was going to get me fired. On the Saturday we were playing West Brom who were top of the Championship at the time, and I told him he was going to play. Then I told him that if he was bad in that game, he’d still play the next game, and the next game after that even if he was poor again. I told him that no matter what, he would play, and that he was going to save us. From then on he made or scored nearly every goal and we stayed up.
“Adel used to go to the centre-backs, pick the ball up, nutmeg someone in his own half and then lose the ball and not even care. I told the lads that when Adel was playing, if anyone passed him the ball in our own half it was a £50 fine – if he went back into our half and touched the ball, then I fined him £50 as well. He was a nightmare, but when you gave him the ball in attack he was magical. He was the best player in the Championship and the most skilful player I’ve ever managed.
“There were certainly two or three times during the season where Shaun Derry would’ve liked to have chinned Adel, but we got through it and played some great football. That was one of my best seasons.”
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Post by waggers on May 4, 2024 21:02:16 GMT 1
Two wins and two draws out of seven matches are "mediocre results"? Not even good enough to be classed as mediocre. If carried on for a full season it would have kept us up by one place,which we'd all take but is still well below average or ordinary. So we're now relegated, but a 'mediocre' performance under Warnock which you claim would have kept us in the league wouldn't be good enough? It's been a shambles by Nagle's suits from the start of the season onwards. Bring in a new manager at the start of pre season or leave Warnock in for the year. Do not, sack Neil Warnock for Darren Moore.
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Post by bleaklow on May 4, 2024 21:05:33 GMT 1
Glennon said Town shouldn't have brought Warnock back, even though he performed a miracle by keeping us up. What a stupid thing to say. Once we stayed in the Championship, we were let down by Kevin's henchmen who proved how incompetent they are. But has our owner got the guts to sack them immediately because they've pulled the wool over his eyes. Thank God Glennon's not on the Town Board.
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Post by portugalterrier on May 4, 2024 21:23:58 GMT 1
Glennon said Town shouldn't have brought Warnock back, even though he performed a miracle by keeping us up. What a stupid thing to say. Once we stayed in the Championship, we were let down by Kevin's henchmen who proved how incompetent they are. But has our owner got the guts to sack them immediately because they've pulled the wool over his eyes. Thank God Glennon's not on the Town Board. Glennon knows some of the reasons why Warnock was replaced, some of those reasons impact what is currently occurring , in hindsight he should have never been kept on after the “ miracle”.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on May 4, 2024 21:32:07 GMT 1
Any of the posters on here who are implying that there was a valid reason he went care to share anything?
We have had this before on here and nobody actually gave any reasons.
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Post by terrier36 on May 4, 2024 21:41:45 GMT 1
The club are at fault for this "saint" Warnock rubbish.
They should have been honest when they moved him on, then it would have made the fans aware of the reasons.
But because they didn't and let this "saint" character become a thing. The fans can't believe saint Warnock did anything wrong hence this discussion.
Warnock was the start of the problem, yes he kept us up last season and thanks but he is also one of the reasons we are now playing league one next season.
Time to move on.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 21:46:19 GMT 1
Any of the posters on here who are implying that there was a valid reason he went care to share anything? We have had this before on here and nobody actually gave any reasons. I have no inside knowledge but pre-season is a starter. Wanting to keep an injury prone Danny Ward because he liked him is another, he wasn't in the matchday squad 23 times. Fitness seems to have been an issue all season, starting I assume with pre-season. He has a poor track record with DOFs, which in a club that has one makes for possible issues. Not saying that model is best but if that is what you have then that is what you work with.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 21:48:30 GMT 1
Glennon said Town shouldn't have brought Warnock back, even though he performed a miracle by keeping us up. What a stupid thing to say. Once we stayed in the Championship, we were let down by Kevin's henchmen who proved how incompetent they are. But has our owner got the guts to sack them immediately because they've pulled the wool over his eyes. Thank God Glennon's not on the Town Board. Warnock himself said he wasn't coming back and that it was just for the end of the season.Wonder what changed his mind?
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Post by uptownfunk on May 4, 2024 21:50:26 GMT 1
Whenever Neil was replaced if your director of football/chief executive thing that after interviews that Darren Moore is the standout candidate then as a club you’re fucked. See Huddersfield Town, see Port Vale.
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Post by spyinthesky on May 4, 2024 21:55:19 GMT 1
Get over yourselves, we have always been a bottom 2nd tier average team. This year we were below average I am still a Town fan I don’t give 2 f!?’s UTT
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Post by goodbet on May 4, 2024 22:06:04 GMT 1
The club are at fault for this "saint" Warnock rubbish. They should have been honest when they moved him on, then it would have made the fans aware of the reasons. But because they didn't and let this "saint" character become a thing. The fans can't believe saint Warnock did anything wrong hence this discussion. Warnock was the start of the problem, yes he kept us up last season and thanks but he is also one of the reasons we are now playing league one next season. Time to move on. I can believe a great deal but when the club keeps leaking stories via a few Cartwright colones on this site, I tend not to believe everything we are told.
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Post by terryya on May 4, 2024 22:24:06 GMT 1
Not even good enough to be classed as mediocre. If carried on for a full season it would have kept us up by one place,which we'd all take but is still well below average or ordinary. So we're now relegated, but a 'mediocre' performance under Warnock which you claim would have kept us in the league wouldn't be good enough? It's been a shambles by Nagle's suits from the start of the season onwards. Bring in a new manager at the start of pre season or leave Warnock in for the year. Do not, sack Neil Warnock for Darren Moore. I agree with all of the second paragraph. I don't think I said anywhere that staying up wouldn't be good enough! All I've said is that a previous poster that described Warnock's reign this season as mediocre was being generous. I didn't make the definition of the word. If anyone also thinks that finishing 4th from bottom by 1 point is average then they are struggling with maths as well as English. Would I have accepted 4th bottom? Absolutely. Would it have been mediocre? Absolutely not.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on May 4, 2024 22:34:55 GMT 1
Went for the correct reasons tarnished his legacy unfortunately And what reasons were there for him to go then? Not saying there was or wasn’t as Im not “in the know”, but to the various posters that keep saying this then go quiet when called out please elaborate or it makes your point look like bullshit.
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