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Post by sabailand on Oct 23, 2023 23:06:20 GMT 1
Didnt he leave becasue there wasn't going to be any money made available to strengthen the squad, may have been other things too but i think that was one of the main reasons. Their owner said he left because he wanted to triple his salary and that of his coaching team. After being a whisker away from chucking away promotion it was a bold move if true. I do hope town aren't paying him triple his wages at Wednesday for three years but it wouldn't surprise me. Fair enough, but i'd imagine the not having any money in the pot will have some truth about it too judging by their lack of signings.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 6:20:33 GMT 1
Presumably no high calibre managers were interested if Moore was the best we could do. Perhaps you could name some “ high calibre managers” we may have signed, Waggers appears to have no idea. I get you are not impressed by Moore, as I have said previously that’s your opinion which you’re entitled to express , he does however seem to be living rent free in your head, and hopefully stuffs your rather negative opinion where the sun doesn’t shine. I notice you did not attend Sat and probably not Tuesday , I’m sure DM and Town are grateful for your committed approach to supporting the team, and hopefully saves other supporters from catching your unbiased negativity. Thanks. After 50 odd years of watching, I'll definitely take note of how I should support from one of the prawn sandwich brigade.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 8:29:46 GMT 1
Perhaps you could name some “ high calibre managers” we may have signed, Waggers appears to have no idea. I get you are not impressed by Moore, as I have said previously that’s your opinion which you’re entitled to express , he does however seem to be living rent free in your head, and hopefully stuffs your rather negative opinion where the sun doesn’t shine. I notice you did not attend Sat and probably not Tuesday , I’m sure DM and Town are grateful for your committed approach to supporting the team, and hopefully saves other supporters from catching your unbiased negativity. Thanks. After 50 odd years of watching, I'll definitely take note of how I should support from one of the prawn sandwich brigade. You old twat!
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Post by portugalterrier on Oct 24, 2023 9:54:45 GMT 1
Perhaps you could name some “ high calibre managers” we may have signed, Waggers appears to have no idea. I get you are not impressed by Moore, as I have said previously that’s your opinion which you’re entitled to express , he does however seem to be living rent free in your head, and hopefully stuffs your rather negative opinion where the sun doesn’t shine. I notice you did not attend Sat and probably not Tuesday , I’m sure DM and Town are grateful for your committed approach to supporting the team, and hopefully saves other supporters from catching your unbiased negativity. Thanks. After 50 odd years of watching, I'll definitely take note of how I should support from one of the prawn sandwich brigade. Well you should be learning from someone who’s been watching 60 years, started regular attendance 1964 . After 50 odd years you should have grown out of the pathetic moaning brigade having witnessed some of the lows of the mid/ late seventies, the current situation to then is nirvana .
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 11:17:15 GMT 1
Thanks. After 50 odd years of watching, I'll definitely take note of how I should support from one of the prawn sandwich brigade. Well you should be learning from someone who’s been watching 60 years, started regular attendance 1964 . After 50 odd years you should have grown out of the pathetic moaning brigade having witnessed some of the lows of the mid/ late seventies, the current situation to then is nirvana . I don’t particularly like football anymore and nothing about Town excites me at the moment so I can choose to spend my time how I want and if that means watching something run about, madly, like a headless chicken I'd rather it be our spaniel pup than some overpaid footballers.
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Post by waggers on Oct 24, 2023 11:28:54 GMT 1
I'm just not convinced mate not a dig at the man I hope he does well. League One last year and Wednesday didn't fancy keeping him comparing him to Wagner isn't really accurate. I'd have thought the money we've slashed off the wage bill would have got us a higher caliber manager to build a club around. Could you put a name to “ higher calibre managers” you think we should have appointed ? I could rattle off a few names of managers that are available who have gained promotion to the Premier League, could we not afford Wilder? People may scoff but he did well in the championship. Surely we have freed up the wage bill with all the players we have gotten rid of? And what about other managers or potential first team managers who aren't big names yet? People at the club are paid good money to do their research aren't they? A manager like Wagner who is only managing a reserve team but is at a great club who has learned from great managers. A Corberan type who has sat by learning from Bielsa. This attitude is tiresome that we are Huddersfield Town so we settle for what we get. Who has Darren Moore worked with and learned from? He got promoted from League One with an extremely strong squad relative to the opposition.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Oct 24, 2023 11:36:44 GMT 1
But what happened behind the scenes in the interim……. Ah, that old chestnut. "We know what he did but we're not telling" 🙄 Incorrect. As I’ve said earlier I’m totally unaware of what happened but I don’t believe we invested in a new back room team for Warnock to then leave early for no reason and I’d say it’s pretty naive to suggest otherwise, especially when respected posters have also suggested this. The fact that we said he had one more year is irrelevant if something/someone massively moved the goalposts
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Post by willo on Oct 24, 2023 11:48:05 GMT 1
Well you should be learning from someone who’s been watching 60 years, started regular attendance 1964 . After 50 odd years you should have grown out of the pathetic moaning brigade having witnessed some of the lows of the mid/ late seventies, the current situation to then is nirvana . I don’t particularly like football anymore and nothing about Town excites me at the moment so I can choose to spend my time how I want and if that means watching something run about, madly, like a headless chicken I'd rather it be our spaniel pup than some overpaid footballers. Bit like where I’m at in all honesty. Not going tonight, although in fairness night games have always been a little tricky with work, but neither did I have much interest in going on Saturday to leeds and I’ve only missed one trip down there (the big win when Wagner was boss) since the famous Cowling 1-0. It’s not just all about watching Town either. Football generally doesn’t excite me in the same way it did; the general sanitisation on the terraces, the style of play implemented by so many coaches these last 10-15 years with all the building out from the back, the conning of the ref by players, the difficulty in tackling without it getting pulled up as an offence, etc. Warnock returning had me actually looking forward to going to games again and whilst I’m not where I was at when Fotheringham was in charge, my enthusiasm has dropped a little since DM came in.
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Post by portugalterrier on Oct 24, 2023 12:15:23 GMT 1
Could you put a name to “ higher calibre managers” you think we should have appointed ? I could rattle off a few names of managers that are available who have gained promotion to the Premier League, could we not afford Wilder? People may scoff but he did well in the championship. Surely we have freed up the wage bill with all the players we have gotten rid of? And what about other managers or potential first team managers who aren't big names yet? People at the club are paid good money to do their research aren't they? A manager like Wagner who is only managing a reserve team but is at a great club who has learned from great managers. A Corberan type who has sat by learning from Bielsa. This attitude is tiresome that we are Huddersfield Town so we settle for what we get. Who has Darren Moore worked with and learned from? He got promoted from League One with an extremely strong squad relative to the opposition. Wilder, failed at Boro, Watford, he’s not exactly being chased by clubs, “ high calibre” , now you are having a laugh. Wagner had a lucky run, Mooy and a good combination of loans some astute signings, done absolutely fa since, and likely to be out of Norwich shortly.DM s stats are comparable with anyone at Championship level and has done well at two clubs certainly bigger than Town, as for settling for “ what we get” , pathetic , another “ supporter” with a bag of chips on his shoulder. And Corberan , one season wonder ?
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 12:20:27 GMT 1
I could rattle off a few names of managers that are available who have gained promotion to the Premier League, could we not afford Wilder? People may scoff but he did well in the championship. Surely we have freed up the wage bill with all the players we have gotten rid of? And what about other managers or potential first team managers who aren't big names yet? People at the club are paid good money to do their research aren't they? A manager like Wagner who is only managing a reserve team but is at a great club who has learned from great managers. A Corberan type who has sat by learning from Bielsa. This attitude is tiresome that we are Huddersfield Town so we settle for what we get. Who has Darren Moore worked with and learned from? He got promoted from League One with an extremely strong squad relative to the opposition. Wilder, failed at Boro, Watford, he’s not exactly being chased by clubs, “ high calibre” , now you are having a laugh. Wagner had a lucky run, Mooy and a good combination of loans some astute signings, done absolutely fa since, and likely to be out of Norwich shortly.DM s stats are comparable with anyone at Championship level and has done well at two clubs certainly bigger than Town, as for settling for “ what we get” , pathetic , another “ supporter” with a bag of chips on his shoulder. And Corberan , one season wonder ? And Moores got relegated with 2 out of the 3 clubs he'd managed previously. Therefore he's a one season wonder, and even then he threw away a virtually unassailable lead to fall into the play offs and got "bigger club lucky" in the final.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 24, 2023 12:21:41 GMT 1
I could rattle off a few names of managers that are available who have gained promotion to the Premier League, could we not afford Wilder? People may scoff but he did well in the championship. Surely we have freed up the wage bill with all the players we have gotten rid of? And what about other managers or potential first team managers who aren't big names yet? People at the club are paid good money to do their research aren't they? A manager like Wagner who is only managing a reserve team but is at a great club who has learned from great managers. A Corberan type who has sat by learning from Bielsa. This attitude is tiresome that we are Huddersfield Town so we settle for what we get. Who has Darren Moore worked with and learned from? He got promoted from League One with an extremely strong squad relative to the opposition. Wilder, failed at Boro, Watford, he’s not exactly being chased by clubs, “ high calibre” , now you are having a laugh. Wagner had a lucky run, Mooy and a good combination of loans some astute signings, done absolutely fa since, and likely to be out of Norwich shortly.DM s stats are comparable with anyone at Championship level and has done well at two clubs certainly bigger than Town, as for settling for “ what we get” , pathetic , another “ supporter” with a bag of chips on his shoulder. And Corberan , one season wonder ? I'm not joining the debate about all those lot, but who would be the person you would look at, being honest about budgets and where we are as a club? I think there are very few Mgrs in the game who I would see as being good Mgrs. A lot of success is driven by multiple factors, team cohesion, consistency, few injuries, budget available. Pep gets a lot of plaudits, and I do think he's probably a good Mgr, but when you're largely unrestricted with budget, with the backroom set-up etc., it can make good Mgrs seem like Gods. Ferguson is the one in recent memory who I would say struck me as a truly great Mgr, but I'm struggling beyond him.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 12:26:14 GMT 1
Could you put a name to “ higher calibre managers” you think we should have appointed ? I could rattle off a few names of managers that are available who have gained promotion to the Premier League, could we not afford Wilder? People may scoff but he did well in the championship. Surely we have freed up the wage bill with all the players we have gotten rid of? And what about other managers or potential first team managers who aren't big names yet? People at the club are paid good money to do their research aren't they? A manager like Wagner who is only managing a reserve team but is at a great club who has learned from great managers. A Corberan type who has sat by learning from Bielsa. This attitude is tiresome that we are Huddersfield Town so we settle for what we get. Who has Darren Moore worked with and learned from? He got promoted from League One with an extremely strong squad relative to the opposition. Wilder shite in his last 2 jobs. Siewert was your reserve team manager type. Fotheringham and Schofield was your Corberan type. With Magath and Bielsa.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 12:29:20 GMT 1
Wilder, failed at Boro, Watford, he’s not exactly being chased by clubs, “ high calibre” , now you are having a laugh. Wagner had a lucky run, Mooy and a good combination of loans some astute signings, done absolutely fa since, and likely to be out of Norwich shortly.DM s stats are comparable with anyone at Championship level and has done well at two clubs certainly bigger than Town, as for settling for “ what we get” , pathetic , another “ supporter” with a bag of chips on his shoulder. And Corberan , one season wonder ? And Moores got relegated with 2 out of the 3 clubs he'd managed previously. Therefore he's a one season wonder, and even then he threw away a virtually unassailable lead to fall into the play offs and got "bigger club lucky" in the final. Moore took over WBA in April when they were 10 points from safety. He took over Wednesday in the March when they were in the bottom 3 also.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 12:34:49 GMT 1
And Moores got relegated with 2 out of the 3 clubs he'd managed previously. Therefore he's a one season wonder, and even then he threw away a virtually unassailable lead to fall into the play offs and got "bigger club lucky" in the final. Moore took over WBA in April when they were 10 points from safety. He took over Wednesday in the March when they were in the bottom 3 also. He was still manager when they got relegated. It's a fact that he was relegated with both, they are on his CV. He's still had one successful season, the post I replied to scoffed at Carlos for having one season of success but he didn't have the best squad and biggest budget in the league unlike Big Dave at the Wendies.
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Post by portugalterrier on Oct 24, 2023 12:39:35 GMT 1
Wilder, failed at Boro, Watford, he’s not exactly being chased by clubs, “ high calibre” , now you are having a laugh. Wagner had a lucky run, Mooy and a good combination of loans some astute signings, done absolutely fa since, and likely to be out of Norwich shortly.DM s stats are comparable with anyone at Championship level and has done well at two clubs certainly bigger than Town, as for settling for “ what we get” , pathetic , another “ supporter” with a bag of chips on his shoulder. And Corberan , one season wonder ? I'm not joining the debate about all those lot, but who would be the person you would look at, being honest about budgets and where we are as a club? I think there are very few Mgrs in the game who I would see as being good Mgrs. A lot of success is driven by multiple factors, team cohesion, consistency, few injuries, budget available. Pep gets a lot of plaudits, and I do think he's probably a good Mgr, but when you're largely unrestricted with budget, with the backroom set-up etc., it can make good Mgrs seem like Gods. Ferguson is the one in recent memory who I would say struck me as a truly great Mgr, but I'm struggling beyond him. When we ran the poll I voted for Liam Richardson who I thought did a good job at Wigan, I do personally like Moore, doesn’t shout the odds, said to be an excellent man manager and as you alluded to , which I agree with, managers/ coaches do need a certain number of stars to align, here’s hoping he gets some backing and some of the stars align. A good post by the way .
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Post by portugalterrier on Oct 24, 2023 12:46:03 GMT 1
Moore took over WBA in April when they were 10 points from safety. He took over Wednesday in the March when they were in the bottom 3 also. He was still manager when they got relegated. It's a fact that he was relegated with both, they are on his CV. He's still had one successful season, the post I replied to scoffed at Carlos for having one season of success but he didn't have the best squad and biggest budget in the league unlike Big Dave at the Wendies. Budgets mean nothing, the squad Moore had at Wednesday was very poor, and is still poor, he did well to get them up , imo. Corberan has had a full season , some expensive and top quality Championship players, Swift etc, big budget and still failing to get a tune, was hardly a success in Greece.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 12:49:35 GMT 1
He was still manager when they got relegated. It's a fact that he was relegated with both, they are on his CV. He's still had one successful season, the post I replied to scoffed at Carlos for having one season of success but he didn't have the best squad and biggest budget in the league unlike Big Dave at the Wendies. Budgets mean nothing, the squad Moore had at Wednesday was very poor, and is still poor, he did well to get them up , imo. Corberan has had a full season , some expensive and top quality Championship players, Swift etc, big budget and still failing to get a tune, was hardly a success in Greece. Context.... Corberan hasn't done as well at WBA than what Moore did, yet Moore got sacked for being 5th!! WBA haven't been that high since he got the sack.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 12:52:34 GMT 1
He was still manager when they got relegated. It's a fact that he was relegated with both, they are on his CV. He's still had one successful season, the post I replied to scoffed at Carlos for having one season of success but he didn't have the best squad and biggest budget in the league unlike Big Dave at the Wendies. Budgets mean nothing, the squad Moore had at Wednesday was very poor, and is still poor, he did well to get them up , imo. Corberan has had a full season , some expensive and top quality Championship players, Swift etc, big budget and still failing to get a tune, was hardly a success in Greece. The squad that got 96 points but bottled automatic promotion was very poor 🤔. Maybe at Championship level but poor at League 1 level 🤨. Yet Carlos had a piss poor squad plus Levi and got them to the play off final where the big team bias (that got the Wendies up) stopped them.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2023 12:54:17 GMT 1
Budgets mean nothing, the squad Moore had at Wednesday was very poor, and is still poor, he did well to get them up , imo. Corberan has had a full season , some expensive and top quality Championship players, Swift etc, big budget and still failing to get a tune, was hardly a success in Greece. Context.... Corberan hasn't done as well at WBA than what Moore did, yet Moore got sacked for being 5th!! WBA haven't been that high since he got the sack. Did Moore keep the majority of the PL squad that season ? Just asking, as I didn't take any notice of them.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 12:55:54 GMT 1
Budgets mean nothing, the squad Moore had at Wednesday was very poor, and is still poor, he did well to get them up , imo. Corberan has had a full season , some expensive and top quality Championship players, Swift etc, big budget and still failing to get a tune, was hardly a success in Greece. Context.... Corberan hasn't done as well at WBA than what Moore did, yet Moore got sacked for being 5th!! WBA haven't been that high since he got the sack. I thought Corberan would have got West Brom into the Champions League by now, he's that much of a genius. We're not worthy
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Post by htfcfcfc on Oct 24, 2023 13:05:29 GMT 1
The chuckle brothers are out in force I see…
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Post by portugalterrier on Oct 24, 2023 13:05:38 GMT 1
Context.... Corberan hasn't done as well at WBA than what Moore did, yet Moore got sacked for being 5th!! WBA haven't been that high since he got the sack. I thought Corberan would have got West Brom into the Champions League by now, he's that much of a genius. We're not worthy 😵💫
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Post by Dan on Oct 24, 2023 13:12:48 GMT 1
Boring hell...
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 13:13:24 GMT 1
Context.... Corberan hasn't done as well at WBA than what Moore did, yet Moore got sacked for being 5th!! WBA haven't been that high since he got the sack. I thought Corberan would have got West Brom into the Champions League by now, he's that much of a genius. We're not worthy Best manager ever. Up there with Narcis.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 13:14:49 GMT 1
I thought Corberan would have got West Brom into the Champions League by now, he's that much of a genius. We're not worthy Best manager ever. Up there with Narcis. I know, I love Narcis. Give it Narcis till the end of the season and we'll be alright.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 24, 2023 13:15:38 GMT 1
The chuckle brothers are out in force I see… Oh dear oh dear.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 24, 2023 14:27:10 GMT 1
Context.... Corberan hasn't done as well at WBA than what Moore did, yet Moore got sacked for being 5th!! WBA haven't been that high since he got the sack. Did Moore keep the majority of the PL squad that season ? Just asking, as I didn't take any notice of them. Not sure, that's irrelevant. The millions they have spent since, should have been near the top. Cowleys were hailed on here and inherited a good squad and only just kept us up.
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Post by waggers on Oct 24, 2023 17:00:59 GMT 1
I could rattle off a few names of managers that are available who have gained promotion to the Premier League, could we not afford Wilder? People may scoff but he did well in the championship. Surely we have freed up the wage bill with all the players we have gotten rid of? And what about other managers or potential first team managers who aren't big names yet? People at the club are paid good money to do their research aren't they? A manager like Wagner who is only managing a reserve team but is at a great club who has learned from great managers. A Corberan type who has sat by learning from Bielsa. This attitude is tiresome that we are Huddersfield Town so we settle for what we get. Who has Darren Moore worked with and learned from? He got promoted from League One with an extremely strong squad relative to the opposition. Wilder, failed at Boro, Watford, he’s not exactly being chased by clubs, “ high calibre” , now you are having a laugh. Wagner had a lucky run, Mooy and a good combination of loans some astute signings, done absolutely fa since, and likely to be out of Norwich shortly.DM s stats are comparable with anyone at Championship level and has done well at two clubs certainly bigger than Town, as for settling for “ what we get” , pathetic , another “ supporter” with a bag of chips on his shoulder. And Corberan , one season wonder ? Wagner just a lucky run? The season he turned up and we didn't get relegated, then promoted to the Prem for the first time? Then survived a season on a shoe string in Prem terms. Behave. Moore isn't in the same breath as Wagner.
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Post by willo on Oct 24, 2023 17:40:04 GMT 1
I could rattle off a few names of managers that are available who have gained promotion to the Premier League, could we not afford Wilder? People may scoff but he did well in the championship. Surely we have freed up the wage bill with all the players we have gotten rid of? And what about other managers or potential first team managers who aren't big names yet? People at the club are paid good money to do their research aren't they? A manager like Wagner who is only managing a reserve team but is at a great club who has learned from great managers. A Corberan type who has sat by learning from Bielsa. This attitude is tiresome that we are Huddersfield Town so we settle for what we get. Who has Darren Moore worked with and learned from? He got promoted from League One with an extremely strong squad relative to the opposition. Wilder, failed at Boro, Watford, he’s not exactly being chased by clubs, “ high calibre” , now you are having a laugh. Wagner had a lucky run, Mooy and a good combination of loans some astute signings, done absolutely fa since, and likely to be out of Norwich shortly.DM s stats are comparable with anyone at Championship level and has done well at two clubs certainly bigger than Town, as for settling for “ what we get” , pathetic , another “ supporter” with a bag of chips on his shoulder. And Corberan , one season wonder ? You won’t get any likes for this post. Wagner got lucky? What, for 3 seasons? All I’ve ever really known in all my years watching Town is a succession of run of the mill managers outside of a small handful, Wagner being the best of the lot. Remains to be seen if Moore will be part of the former or the latter but I’m not holding my breath.
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Post by efesodje23 on Oct 24, 2023 20:04:30 GMT 1
wrong thread
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