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Post by Junior & Onuora on Sept 7, 2024 21:52:23 GMT 1
I think if the stadium moved so that it was beyond walking distance from the town centre it could wipe off thousands from the attendances. I would say that a third of Towns support don't live in Huddersfield and if there was to be a new stadium in Huddersfield it would have to be built pretty far out of Town. Scammondam maybe or somewhere up Lepton plenty of land up there. I fully agree that the Heavy Woollen lot are a sizeable support, but walk in from St Andrew's Road or go back to town via Leeds Road after a game and it's clear that so many do their entire journey on foot. I honestly think moving further out would just see people (particularly an older demographic) stopping attending.
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Post by harri54 on Sept 7, 2024 21:57:48 GMT 1
The silence on the situation surrounding the Stadium purchase,drags on. Every time he does a diary "it is very close" As previously stated by another poster,it has been in this state for ages now.What the hell is the obstacle that a {Billionare} cannot solve.Alan Sugar would have tied em in knots. Ken has history in demanding millions for something he picked up for peanuts! Nagle has spent big on the stadium, hopefully Nagle is wise to his tactics from history.
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 7, 2024 22:36:55 GMT 1
...who has just liquidated £9m cash to his back pocket. Not sure this is the scoop you think it is. £9m is pocket change to people like that and a drop in the ocean of his wealth . As it is to professional sport. Not sure what you mean by scoop...it's a significant amount to turn into liquid cash irrespective of him having shares worth 60m+ still in Fintech. People with those paper assets don't tend to convert to cash unless they intend spending it (or investing it somewhere that will give them even higher returns). For me that level of funding is the the kind of seed capital that can attract investment and grants for something much more significant. Will watch his next steps with interest.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 7, 2024 23:41:10 GMT 1
Still don't see many names of strikers that we could have brought in. Without giving examples of players we could have brought in and just saying "there's loads of strikers that we could have that are better than weve got" is an easy thing to say but the reality is far different. With Devante Cole he may not have signed for West Brom for a while but Middlesbrough, Bristol City, Swansea and Stoke were also linked with him straight after the play off final so to say if we'd have offered him a contract he'd have taken it is ridiculous because I've no doubt his agent would have already had offers from Championship clubs. I'd imagine it was closer to trying to play clubs off against each other to boost a contract why it took so long. I can't honestly believe people actually think he'd have been sat there trying to find a club and willing to take the first offer that came in, especially for probably his last big contract. Why have we pretty much exclusively looked at league 1/2 players to bring in? Plenty of leagues with plenty of quality strikers to explore around the world, many without the price tags English players cost. We set on scouts that specialised in LG 1/2 and totally blinkered ourselves from the rest of the world, which led to daft statements that only two strikers were good enough for us. We haven't. I don't think we've signed anyone from League 2? Since Nagle took over if I'm not wrong - Bojan Radulovic - HJK Helskinki Radinio Balker - Groningen Delano Burgzorg - Mainz 4 Premier League loans 4 Championship 4 League One Considering we've been in the Championship and League One it seems a fair spread to have had 4 players from each of the top 3 leagues (still no League 2 players from what I can see?) and 3 foreigners all from different leagues. I can't see how that's blinkered? 7 players have been signed from Europe that haven't played in England before by League 1 clubs this summer. 3 of them by Birmingham. So 23 clubs have signed 4, we've signed 3 in 3 windows. Plenty of leagues with plenty of quality strikers? If there was so many everyone would have one but they're very rare so it's not true. Again, so easy to say, but who? Who is available and willing to come here? You can't just say "there's loads of quality strikers".
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Post by ram on Sept 8, 2024 9:39:09 GMT 1
I am getting to a stage now where I don,t give a fuck what happen. As far as I am concerned Town will be stuck in the lower divs. forever.
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Post by softboy on Sept 8, 2024 9:46:22 GMT 1
Its a shame that you feel that way, I guess you wont miss the games and find something better to do.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 8, 2024 9:56:50 GMT 1
Is there space nearby to build a small up to 10K stadium that the Giants, Town B team and Town Ladies could use for matches? Something similar to what Man City have built near the main Etihad stadium. A few years in League One and a 10k stadium will be big enough for Town. So we can follow the Bournemouth blueprint then.. Small stadium and spend loads on tall players… 😉
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Post by dugnet on Sept 8, 2024 10:19:07 GMT 1
I am getting to a stage now where I don,t give a fuck what happen. As far as I am concerned Town will be stuck in the lower divs. forever. If we adopt that attitude, the "we've found our level", "we can't be any better", then that's what we'll get. I can’t subscribe to such negative bs. There's a lot to be done but as this thread is titled the buck does indeed stop with Mr Nagle. For all the debate it's down to him to achieve his stated ambitions. He doesn't strike me as a quitter but he won't get there through positive thought it requires considered actions. I do think we are going in the right direction but it's slower than we all want. However that might be the only solution to moving us properly forward. However we have to keep supporting each other because at the end of the day we are HTAFC. I will never lose faith in the potential of our club. Mr Nagle is the current custodian so it's down to him to deliver.
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Post by mosher on Sept 8, 2024 11:29:06 GMT 1
Why have we pretty much exclusively looked at league 1/2 players to bring in? Plenty of leagues with plenty of quality strikers to explore around the world, many without the price tags English players cost. We set on scouts that specialised in LG 1/2 and totally blinkered ourselves from the rest of the world, which led to daft statements that only two strikers were good enough for us. We haven't. I don't think we've signed anyone from League 2? Since Nagle took over if I'm not wrong - Bojan Radulovic - HJK Helskinki Radinio Balker - Groningen Delano Burgzorg - Mainz 4 Premier League loans 4 Championship 4 League One Considering we've been in the Championship and League One it seems a fair spread to have had 4 players from each of the top 3 leagues (still no League 2 players from what I can see?) and 3 foreigners all from different leagues. I can't see how that's blinkered? 7 players have been signed from Europe that haven't played in England before by League 1 clubs this summer. 3 of them by Birmingham. So 23 clubs have signed 4, we've signed 3 in 3 windows. Plenty of leagues with plenty of quality strikers? If there was so many everyone would have one but they're very rare so it's not true. Again, so easy to say, but who? Who is available and willing to come here? You can't just say "there's loads of quality strikers". Beat me to it Amigo, it's like people make things up to service an agenda
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 8, 2024 11:49:05 GMT 1
We haven't. I don't think we've signed anyone from League 2? Since Nagle took over if I'm not wrong - Bojan Radulovic - HJK Helskinki Radinio Balker - Groningen Delano Burgzorg - Mainz 4 Premier League loans 4 Championship 4 League One Considering we've been in the Championship and League One it seems a fair spread to have had 4 players from each of the top 3 leagues (still no League 2 players from what I can see?) and 3 foreigners all from different leagues. I can't see how that's blinkered? 7 players have been signed from Europe that haven't played in England before by League 1 clubs this summer. 3 of them by Birmingham. So 23 clubs have signed 4, we've signed 3 in 3 windows. Plenty of leagues with plenty of quality strikers? If there was so many everyone would have one but they're very rare so it's not true. Again, so easy to say, but who? Who is available and willing to come here? You can't just say "there's loads of quality strikers". Beat me to it Amigo, it's like people make things up to service an agenda It was Nagle that said they'd brought in scouts that specialised in league 1/2 players. Nothing made up about it. He also said that May and Taylor were the only strikers good enough to play for town.
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Post by mosher on Sept 8, 2024 12:39:09 GMT 1
Beat me to it Amigo, it's like people make things up to service an agenda It was Nagle that said they'd brought in scouts that specialised in league 1/2 players. Nothing made up about it. He also said that May and Taylor were the only strikers good enough to play for town. I think he's misinterpreted the information his subordinates have given him; we're clearly scouting more than leagues 1&2; that's patently obvious from recent signings. Maybe he got told the new scouts specialised in those 2 leagues, but what about the scouts that were already here? We're obviously casting our net further than just league 1 & league 2. And I believe his quote about only two better strikers being available is (again) him misinterpreting; he probably got told that there were only two available willing to come to the 3rd division and he's taken it to mean there were only two available at all. Which is why I think he needs to reign in his output on the footballing side of things, refreshing though his open-ness is. My previous post certainly wasn't meant as a dig; people interpret things in different ways and SOME will use that to further their own agenda, positive AND negative. I could even be (subconsciously) doing it myself interpreting what he said the way I have.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 8, 2024 13:43:18 GMT 1
It was Nagle that said they'd brought in scouts that specialised in league 1/2 players. Nothing made up about it. He also said that May and Taylor were the only strikers good enough to play for town. I think he's misinterpreted the information his subordinates have given him; we're clearly scouting more than leagues 1&2; that's patently obvious from recent signings. Maybe he got told the new scouts specialised in those 2 leagues, but what about the scouts that were already here? We're obviously casting our net further than just league 1 & league 2. And I believe his quote about only two better strikers being available is (again) him misinterpreting; he probably got told that there were only two available willing to come to the 3rd division and he's taken it to mean there were only two available at all. Which is why I think he needs to reign in his output on the footballing side of things, refreshing though his open-ness is. My previous post certainly wasn't meant as a dig; people interpret things in different ways and SOME will use that to further their own agenda, positive AND negative. I could even be (subconsciously) doing it myself interpreting what he said the way I have. This window we've brought in: Sorensen - League 1. Evans - League 1. Kane - League 1. Miller - Championship but league 1 regular. Lonwijk - Loan but recent league 1 experience. Hodge - Prem youth loan. Marshall - Prem youth loan. We also tried to sign two strikers that played in league 1 last season but missed out. Not too sure where the other scouts were looking but it seems to me we didn't even attempt to look abroad, hence the Nagle statement that only two were good enough. 7 games into the season we're all praying Koroma or Marshall don't pick up knocks on international duty because atm they're all we've got heading into a massive game at Bolton. If Healey is still out we'll have no attacking options on the bench either, even if Koroma and Marshall come back unscathed. We'll end up paying over the odds for a striker in January who's likely not match fit because Cartwright and Co didn't do their jobs properly this window.
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Post by mosher on Sept 8, 2024 13:45:13 GMT 1
I think he's misinterpreted the information his subordinates have given him; we're clearly scouting more than leagues 1&2; that's patently obvious from recent signings. Maybe he got told the new scouts specialised in those 2 leagues, but what about the scouts that were already here? We're obviously casting our net further than just league 1 & league 2. And I believe his quote about only two better strikers being available is (again) him misinterpreting; he probably got told that there were only two available willing to come to the 3rd division and he's taken it to mean there were only two available at all. Which is why I think he needs to reign in his output on the footballing side of things, refreshing though his open-ness is. My previous post certainly wasn't meant as a dig; people interpret things in different ways and SOME will use that to further their own agenda, positive AND negative. I could even be (subconsciously) doing it myself interpreting what he said the way I have. This window we've brought in: Sorensen - League 1. Evans - League 1. Kane - League 1. Miller - Championship but league 1 regular. Lonwijk - Loan but recent league 1 experience. Hodge - Prem youth loan. Marshall - Prem youth loan. We also tried to sign two strikers that played in league 1 last season but missed out. Not too sure where the other scouts were looking but it seems to me we didn't even attempt to look abroad, hence the Nagle statement that only two were good enough. 7 games into the season we're all praying Koroma or Marshall don't pick up knocks on international duty because atm they're all we've got heading into a massive game at Bolton. If Healey is still out we'll have no attacking options on the bench either, even if Koroma and Marshall come back unscathed. We'll end up paying over the odds for a striker in January who's likely not match fit because Cartwright and Co didn't do their jobs properly this window. Someone posted a list above that included at least 3 different leagues. Are you on about JUST this window? Just off the top of my head there's Bojan who we signed in January.
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Post by waggers on Sept 8, 2024 13:46:41 GMT 1
It was Nagle that said they'd brought in scouts that specialised in league 1/2 players. Nothing made up about it. He also said that May and Taylor were the only strikers good enough to play for town. I think he's misinterpreted the information his subordinates have given him; we're clearly scouting more than leagues 1&2; that's patently obvious from recent signings. Maybe he got told the new scouts specialised in those 2 leagues, but what about the scouts that were already here? We're obviously casting our net further than just league 1 & league 2. And I believe his quote about only two better strikers being available is (again) him misinterpreting; he probably got told that there were only two available willing to come to the 3rd division and he's taken it to mean there were only two available at all. Which is why I think he needs to reign in his output on the footballing side of things, refreshing though his open-ness is. My previous post certainly wasn't meant as a dig; people interpret things in different ways and SOME will use that to further their own agenda, positive AND negative. I could even be (subconsciously) doing it myself interpreting what he said the way I have. I believe you're bang on, it's Nagle not getting the full message being fed back to him, then relaying that to the fans. There will definitely have been strikers free and available who told us to sod off immediately. Some may have messed us about whilst angling for a better deal. Kev is being as open as possible and that's great but he should just leave transfer/recruitment messaging to his staff.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 8, 2024 13:50:41 GMT 1
This window we've brought in: Sorensen - League 1. Evans - League 1. Kane - League 1. Miller - Championship but league 1 regular. Lonwijk - Loan but recent league 1 experience. Hodge - Prem youth loan. Marshall - Prem youth loan. We also tried to sign two strikers that played in league 1 last season but missed out. Not too sure where the other scouts were looking but it seems to me we didn't even attempt to look abroad, hence the Nagle statement that only two were good enough. 7 games into the season we're all praying Koroma or Marshall don't pick up knocks on international duty because atm they're all we've got heading into a massive game at Bolton. If Healey is still out we'll have no attacking options on the bench either, even if Koroma and Marshall come back unscathed. We'll end up paying over the odds for a striker in January who's likely not match fit because Cartwright and Co didn't do their jobs properly this window. Someone posted a list above that included at least 3 different leagues. Are you on about JUST this window? Just off the top of my head there's Bojan who we signed in January. I'm talking about this window, the important one following relegation after a shitshow season. Nagle talked a good game about rectifying their mistakes but we're 7 games in praying a winger and a youth loan striker can stay fit to do the business.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 8, 2024 13:57:44 GMT 1
Someone posted a list above that included at least 3 different leagues. Are you on about JUST this window? Just off the top of my head there's Bojan who we signed in January. I'm talking about this window, the important one following relegation after a shitshow season. Nagle talked a good game about rectifying their mistakes but we're 7 games in praying a winger and a youth loan striker can stay fit to do the business. Koroma is a striker..... We moved him to a winger under CC.
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Post by potlessphil on Sept 8, 2024 15:23:45 GMT 1
Nagle and co achievements so far...
Sacking the championships most successful ever manager and replacing him with statistically one of the worst in history.
At great cost failing to choose the correct manager multiple times
Relegation
Failing to address the striker situation correctly (Again)
Leaving us with an inadequate squad for the task at hand (Again) - that being autos.
Could say failing to address the medical team situation; all these injuries can't be bad luck.
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The positives, the stadium that we rent is looking better!
How can we find ourselves at the brink of fielding academy players after 7 games in League 1 and still using "The budget" as an excuse? Strikers cost money, there's a number that would've got May over the line before Birmingham got involved - or Taylor over the line.
I want Nagle to do well but the CV so far isn't looking very good at all... If he was a faceless overseas investor, not a charming american i think there would be far more uproar given his achievements so far
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Post by swam4mwg on Sept 8, 2024 16:02:10 GMT 1
Nagle and co achievements so far... Sacking the championships most successful ever manager and replacing him with statistically one of the worst in history. At great cost failing to choose the correct manager multiple times Relegation Failing to address the striker situation correctly (Again) Leaving us with an inadequate squad for the task at hand (Again) - that being autos. Could say failing to address the medical team situation; all these injuries can't be bad luck. ... The positives, the stadium that we rent is looking better! How can we find ourselves at the brink of fielding academy players even in League 1 and 7 games and still using "The budget" as an excuse? I want Nagle to do well but the CV so far isn't looking very good at all... If he was a faceless overseas investor, not a charming american i think there would be far more uproar given his achievements so far On the football side of it, he hardly got anything right. Just about all the major decisions have been bad ones. I hope this season will see a turnaround in fortunes.
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Sept 8, 2024 18:09:09 GMT 1
Nagle and co achievements so far...
Sacking the championships most successful ever manager and replacing him with statistically one of the worst in history.
At great cost failing to choose the correct manager multiple times
Relegation
Failing to address the striker situation correctly (Again)
Leaving us with an inadequate squad for the task at hand (Again) - that being autos.
Could say failing to address the medical team situation; all these injuries can't be bad luck.
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The positives, the stadium that we rent is looking better!
How can we find ourselves at the brink of fielding academy players even in League 1 and 7 games and still using "The budget" as an excuse?
I want Nagle to do well but the CV so far isn't looking very good at all... If he was a faceless overseas investor, not a charming american i think there would be far more uproar given his achievements so far
Yep I agree with all of this. The squad is not good enough to challenge clubs like Brum, Wrexham and maybe Rotherham and Charlton. There is not the depth or it would appear a first eleven that screams at you 'promotion.' Bearing in mind that Town have not gone up automatically from this division since Buxton with a team that did appear from game 1 until game 46 that they were a 'promotion' team.
Plus it now seems that the talk of the stadium sale was club propaganda. As people have been saying on here for the Giants to simply hand over ownership without a significant fight is nonsense. They would be signing their own death warrant. Where else could they find a plush stadium readily available, cheap and maintained by a third party. Moreover, Kirklees Stadium Developent Company are not going to hand over the keys to the stadium without receiving 'compensation' that helps them with their financial problems, unless they are complete imbeciles and I know they could well be but even they can smell a pay day.
Talking about propaganda the club do seem very keen to get fans onto their apps etc and are efficient at sending out messages when they think they have something interesting to tell us. They have also invested heavily in images and soundbites to suggest they are working for the good of the fans which is fine as long as they realise that the fans want to see a team that looks like it can win games, has heart and play with some zip.
I really think that the next few weeks are going to define the season on the pitch. Let's hope the weaknesses we saw in all the games so far have been worked on and ironed out. One really good choice was the manager, Duff, who I reckon will get Town moving in the right direction. I just hope they don't use him as a sacrificial lamb if the results slip further.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Sept 8, 2024 22:15:37 GMT 1
I’d say so. If people like his presence on social media with the diary’s etc then they can’t expect him to be so open and honest with some things and not others because it upsets them. Take him as he is and accept it (both the good and bad). As I say, I have never thought and will never think any of it is a good look but each to their own. Personally I don't think it's a case of diaries / no diaries, Twitter posts / no Twitter posts. Generally, his tone across any of his public-facing output needs to improve. It just so happens that he uses his Twitter posts for those spontaneous, ill-thought out opinions; whereas his diaries are more measured, probably because they're timed away from matches and away from any emotions. He's said things in diaries that I have disapproved of (calling out fans by names) and he's done similar things on Twitter. Overall he just has to improve his tone, whether he likes it or not. Apologies for the lateness in response to this. The way I see it is he is obviously the type of guy that wants to be as open as possible with the fans, wants his opinions known, speaks before he thinks (whether that be literally or via posts on twitter) etc etc. And from what I have read on here a lot of fans essentially want him to have this approach and even applaud him for it when it’s things they like, but then slate him when it’s things that upset them. In other words they want him to change his personality to suit. I assume that at some point the penny will drop with KN and CD that all these diary’s, posts, being on datm really do is make a rod for their own back, thus giving fans the chance to have a pop at them when things they say will happen don’t for whatever reason (stadium/the right replacement for Warnock etc). I also assume this is one of the main reasons their approach is one of rarity within the football ownership world.
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Post by Sparrow on Sept 8, 2024 22:22:16 GMT 1
It’s utter nonsense to think that we could sign a striker from a foreign league that could score 20+ goals Any striker from any league in Europe that would be capable of scoring 20+ goals at league 1 level, will be in demand from lots of clubs bigger than Town and in better leagues than League 1. Others scoring goals in European leagues won’t be capable of getting 20 goals in League 1. The lad who was second top scorer in Finland behind Bojan previously played in Sweden. Before that he played for Whitby Town and Marske United - A similar level to Emley, Liversedge etc. If you’re thinking of Africa. South Africa is the best league in sub saharan Africa. Top strikers there earn millions, drive top of the range sports cards and live in mansions with outdoor swimming pools. They ain’t coming to Huddersfield to play league 1. The others and any other good strikers in Africa will go to top teams in European leagues such a Belgium, Austria, Switzerland and Holland etc, with a chance of wining the league, playing in European competitions etc. They aren’t coming to us. Japan, China, South Korea etc. Again, decent players from there take the Holland, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, France etc route. They are not coming to League 1 Huddersfield Town. When was the last time a league 1 club signed a 20+ goal scorer from North or South America? ?? Never happened and very very very unlikely it will. Australia & New Zealand. Google players from there and tell me 1 striker that could score 20 goals in league 1 that would actually join us. There is a New Zealand international striker that played for Plymouth last season. 40 matches, 3 goals. Currently on loan at League 1 Mansfield. He’s played 3 minutes so far this season! We’re not signing a 20+ goal scorer from there. it’s just daft to think a player from a foreign league, capable of scoring 20+ goals at league 1 level, would actually join a league 1 club. It’s also just plain daft and also 100% incorrect to suggest Town only scout in this country. As proved by the links below. www.driblab.com/driblab-en/huddersfield-town-a-f-c-and-driblab-sign-partnership-agreement/www.driblab.com/
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Post by irverino on Sept 9, 2024 8:30:31 GMT 1
I think he's misinterpreted the information his subordinates have given him; we're clearly scouting more than leagues 1&2; that's patently obvious from recent signings. Maybe he got told the new scouts specialised in those 2 leagues, but what about the scouts that were already here? We're obviously casting our net further than just league 1 & league 2. And I believe his quote about only two better strikers being available is (again) him misinterpreting; he probably got told that there were only two available willing to come to the 3rd division and he's taken it to mean there were only two available at all. Which is why I think he needs to reign in his output on the footballing side of things, refreshing though his open-ness is. My previous post certainly wasn't meant as a dig; people interpret things in different ways and SOME will use that to further their own agenda, positive AND negative. I could even be (subconsciously) doing it myself interpreting what he said the way I have. This window we've brought in: Sorensen - League 1. Evans - League 1. Kane - League 1. Miller - Championship but league 1 regular. Lonwijk - Loan but recent league 1 experience. Hodge - Prem youth loan. Marshall - Prem youth loan. We also tried to sign two strikers that played in league 1 last season but missed out. Not too sure where the other scouts were looking but it seems to me we didn't even attempt to look abroad, hence the Nagle statement that only two were good enough. 7 games into the season we're all praying Koroma or Marshall don't pick up knocks on international duty because atm they're all we've got heading into a massive game at Bolton. If Healey is still out we'll have no attacking options on the bench either, even if Koroma and Marshall come back unscathed.
We'll end up paying over the odds for a striker in January who's likely not match fit because Cartwright and Co didn't do their jobs properly this window. Koroma faces a daunting journey back from Zambia after tomorrow nights game, probably having to fly via South Africa so he won't be back till late Thursday......Possibly Friday to train?
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Post by ram on Sept 9, 2024 9:27:59 GMT 1
I am getting to a stage now where I don,t give a fuck what happen. As far as I am concerned Town will be stuck in the lower divs. forever. If we adopt that attitude, the "we've found our level", "we can't be any better", then that's what we'll get. I can’t subscribe to such negative bs. There's a lot to be done but as this thread is titled the buck does indeed stop with Mr Nagle. For all the debate it's down to him to achieve his stated ambitions. He doesn't strike me as a quitter but he won't get there through positive thought it requires considered actions. I do think we are going in the right direction but it's slower than we all want. However that might be the only solution to moving us properly forward. However we have to keep supporting each other because at the end of the day we are HTAFC. I will never lose faith in the potential of our club. Mr Nagle is the current custodian so it's down to him to deliver. Don,t presume to know how I feel about Town.I see all the usual lot have liked your post.The lot of you can piss off
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Post by benhomly on Sept 9, 2024 9:35:41 GMT 1
If we adopt that attitude, the "we've found our level", "we can't be any better", then that's what we'll get. I can’t subscribe to such negative bs. There's a lot to be done but as this thread is titled the buck does indeed stop with Mr Nagle. For all the debate it's down to him to achieve his stated ambitions. He doesn't strike me as a quitter but he won't get there through positive thought it requires considered actions. I do think we are going in the right direction but it's slower than we all want. However that might be the only solution to moving us properly forward. However we have to keep supporting each other because at the end of the day we are HTAFC. I will never lose faith in the potential of our club. Mr Nagle is the current custodian so it's down to him to deliver. Don,t presume to know how I feel about Town.I see all the usual lot have liked your post.The lot of you can piss off You really ought to take up another hobby at your age. Have you thought about Tea Dancing?
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 9, 2024 10:01:56 GMT 1
After the social media promises and bragging of “you can never have enough strikers”… it’s all starting to look very embarrassing for Kev.
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Post by irverino on Sept 9, 2024 10:12:37 GMT 1
After the social media promises and bragging of “ you can never have enough strikers”… it’s all starting to look very embarrassing for Kev. The two we bought in January have been complete non starters & you wouldn't expect them to be available consistently through the season.........MC can do no wrong in Kev's eyes, I just hope he doesn't let him buy his car, it would never start.
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Post by dugnet on Sept 9, 2024 11:03:41 GMT 1
If we adopt that attitude, the "we've found our level", "we can't be any better", then that's what we'll get. I can’t subscribe to such negative bs. There's a lot to be done but as this thread is titled the buck does indeed stop with Mr Nagle. For all the debate it's down to him to achieve his stated ambitions. He doesn't strike me as a quitter but he won't get there through positive thought it requires considered actions. I do think we are going in the right direction but it's slower than we all want. However that might be the only solution to moving us properly forward. However we have to keep supporting each other because at the end of the day we are HTAFC. I will never lose faith in the potential of our club. Mr Nagle is the current custodian so it's down to him to deliver. Don,t presume to know how I feel about Town.I see all the usual lot have liked your post.The lot of you can piss off I am seldom puzzled by what I read on here but given the original post I find the response's first sentence utterly bizarre. As for the 2nd sentence, and I can only speak for myself (and not the "usual lot"), I will treat your incredibly insightful and adult instruction with the indifferent contempt it deserves.
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Post by Wingman on Sept 9, 2024 11:21:33 GMT 1
If we adopt that attitude, the "we've found our level", "we can't be any better", then that's what we'll get. I can’t subscribe to such negative bs. There's a lot to be done but as this thread is titled the buck does indeed stop with Mr Nagle. For all the debate it's down to him to achieve his stated ambitions. He doesn't strike me as a quitter but he won't get there through positive thought it requires considered actions. I do think we are going in the right direction but it's slower than we all want. However that might be the only solution to moving us properly forward. However we have to keep supporting each other because at the end of the day we are HTAFC. I will never lose faith in the potential of our club. Mr Nagle is the current custodian so it's down to him to deliver. Don,t presume to know how I feel about Town.I see all the usual lot have liked your post.The lot of you can piss off Quite harsh that ram. dugnet usually has well considered responses on here, I don’t think they deserved the response given. Some posters do, but on this occasion, not.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 9, 2024 11:27:50 GMT 1
After the social media promises and bragging of “ you can never have enough strikers”… it’s all starting to look very embarrassing for Kev. The two we bought in January have been complete non starters & you wouldn't expect them to be available consistently through the season.........MC can do no wrong in Kev's eyes, I just hope he doesn't let him buy his car, it would never start. Dunc maybe we misunderstood Nagle , when he said "you can't have enough strikers". He may well have meant you can't have enough injured ones ?
Nagle has shown he will pay lots of money out, if it means the people/ players coming into the club are rubbish at their jobs.
I think it makes the excuses of failure easier to bleet out you see.
Forget what Kev has said about Cartwright etc, if they were as bad at another club, would they have got the sack? I would suggest so.
Would Darren Moore have got 23 games, of which only 3 wins anywhere else ? Nagle said after "o but he was a lovely guy" - Yes Kevin he may well have being a "nice guy" but he clearly could not manage the team.
I honestly think Edwards/Cartwright cannot believe what a rubbish job they have done , yet got away with it, they probs chuckle when they get home.
If Hodgkinson had overseen this , would we have got the "slack" ? Nagle apparently is not potless, yet Phil was ? Phil could at least make proper choices and made them quickly. He did not have the money to back it up, but Nagle on the other hand....
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Post by rockwall on Sept 9, 2024 17:36:21 GMT 1
The two we bought in January have been complete non starters & you wouldn't expect them to be available consistently through the season.........MC can do no wrong in Kev's eyes, I just hope he doesn't let him buy his car, it would never start. Dunc maybe we misunderstood Nagle , when he said "you can't have enough strikers". He may well have meant you can't have enough injured ones ?
Nagle has shown he will pay lots of money out, if it means the people/ players coming into the club are rubbish at their jobs.
I think it makes the excuses of failure easier to bleet out you see.
Forget what Kev has said about Cartwright etc, if they were as bad at another club, would they have got the sack? I would suggest so.
Would Darren Moore have got 23 games, of which only 3 wins anywhere else ? Nagle said after "o but he was a lovely guy" - Yes Kevin he may well have being a "nice guy" but he clearly could not manage the team.
I honestly think Edwards/Cartwright cannot believe what a rubbish job they have done , yet got away with it, they probs chuckle when they get home.
If Hodgkinson had overseen this , would we have got the "slack" ? Nagle apparently is not potless, yet Phil was ? Phil could at least make proper choices and made them quickly. He did not have the money to back it up, but Nagle on the other hand....
Your last part is the part that people don't think through. KN has done a hell of a lot more than PH. Look at all the off field improvements for a start. From bringing back the academy to making the stadium and work spaces look more professional. Phil did non of that. On field. KN has spent money. He threw 2M at Healey. He was also willing to spend in the summer on May. But the car salesman in MC didn't utilise that money or have any plan B apart from a loan for Taylor. Personally MC is the issue. Balker, Bojan, Healey, Kane all suffering injuries within days/weeks of being here. If Healey or Bojan could stay fit, the striker argument/debate wouldn't be as heightened. I feel KN gets fat too much stick. Another example being posters over the last few years berating the ub for not being open with the fans. But then Kev tweets and the same posters throw insults at him. We have a weird bipolar fan base who can't make their minds up on what they actually want. For some people at the club it's a lose lose situation. Stay quiet and get insults, say something and get the same again. Buy a striker, we get 2 in Jan for decent fees, yet people are saying he won't pay for a striker?? Baffles me.
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