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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 9, 2024 18:09:13 GMT 1
Dunc maybe we misunderstood Nagle , when he said "you can't have enough strikers". He may well have meant you can't have enough injured ones ?
Nagle has shown he will pay lots of money out, if it means the people/ players coming into the club are rubbish at their jobs.
I think it makes the excuses of failure easier to bleet out you see.
Forget what Kev has said about Cartwright etc, if they were as bad at another club, would they have got the sack? I would suggest so.
Would Darren Moore have got 23 games, of which only 3 wins anywhere else ? Nagle said after "o but he was a lovely guy" - Yes Kevin he may well have being a "nice guy" but he clearly could not manage the team.
I honestly think Edwards/Cartwright cannot believe what a rubbish job they have done , yet got away with it, they probs chuckle when they get home.
If Hodgkinson had overseen this , would we have got the "slack" ? Nagle apparently is not potless, yet Phil was ? Phil could at least make proper choices and made them quickly. He did not have the money to back it up, but Nagle on the other hand....
Your last part is the part that people don't think through. KN has done a hell of a lot more than PH. Look at all the off field improvements for a start. From bringing back the academy to making the stadium and work spaces look more professional. Phil did non of that. On field. KN has spent money. He threw 2M at Healey. He was also willing to spend in the summer on May. But the car salesman in MC didn't utilise that money or have any plan B apart from a loan for Taylor. Personally MC is the issue. Balker, Bojan, Healey, Kane all suffering injuries within days/weeks of being here. If Healey or Bojan could stay fit, the striker argument/debate wouldn't be as heightened. I feel KN gets fat too much stick. Another example being posters over the last few years berating the ub for not being open with the fans. But then Kev tweets and the same posters throw insults at him. We have a weird bipolar fan base who can't make their minds up on what they actually want. For some people at the club it's a lose lose situation. Stay quiet and get insults, say something and get the same again. Buy a striker, we get 2 in Jan for decent fees, yet people are saying he won't pay for a striker?? Baffles me. The point i am making pal, for all the talk , the impact he has "made" is not that big or visable is it ? What i am questioning is if Hodgkinson had done this , yet being relegated , would have got so much grace? i highly doubt it . If Nagle is talking about highering the standards of the club, then higher standards of what he oversees is part of it then ....
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Post by rockwall on Sept 9, 2024 19:38:47 GMT 1
Your last part is the part that people don't think through. KN has done a hell of a lot more than PH. Look at all the off field improvements for a start. From bringing back the academy to making the stadium and work spaces look more professional. Phil did non of that. On field. KN has spent money. He threw 2M at Healey. He was also willing to spend in the summer on May. But the car salesman in MC didn't utilise that money or have any plan B apart from a loan for Taylor. Personally MC is the issue. Balker, Bojan, Healey, Kane all suffering injuries within days/weeks of being here. If Healey or Bojan could stay fit, the striker argument/debate wouldn't be as heightened. I feel KN gets fat too much stick. Another example being posters over the last few years berating the ub for not being open with the fans. But then Kev tweets and the same posters throw insults at him. We have a weird bipolar fan base who can't make their minds up on what they actually want. For some people at the club it's a lose lose situation. Stay quiet and get insults, say something and get the same again. Buy a striker, we get 2 in Jan for decent fees, yet people are saying he won't pay for a striker?? Baffles me. The point i am making pal, for all the talk , the impact he has "made" is not that big or visable is it ? What i am questioning is if Hodgkinson had done this , yet being relegated , would have got so much grace? i highly doubt it . If Nagle is talking about highering the standards of the club, then higher standards of what he oversees is part of it then .... But PH didnt do any of it. You can't compare the two in any way. The new academy set up is visible. The money spent on new work spaces is visible. The money spent on changing rooms/exterior paint is visible. The murals are visible. The fanzone is visible. PH did not do any of those things, if he had, I'm sure some would see differently on his tenure. He was more bothered about being on a team photo in a training kit boosting his ego. He even lied about being at the 10-1 game for some unknown reason. We have won 3 out our 4 league games that is also visible. Regardless of opinions on performance, we would have taken 9 out of 12. We will only get better too. The cups were disappointing but there were wholesale changes so we can't read much into that.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 9, 2024 19:54:44 GMT 1
The point i am making pal, for all the talk , the impact he has "made" is not that big or visable is it ? What i am questioning is if Hodgkinson had done this , yet being relegated , would have got so much grace? i highly doubt it . If Nagle is talking about highering the standards of the club, then higher standards of what he oversees is part of it then .... But PH didnt do any of it. You can't compare the two in any way. The new academy set up is visible. The money spent on new work spaces is visible. The money spent on changing rooms/exterior paint is visible. The murals are visible. The fanzone is visible. PH did not do any of those things, if he had, I'm sure some would see differently on his tenure. He was more bothered about being on a team photo in a training kit boosting his ego. He even lied about being at the 10-1 game for some unknown reason. We have won 3 out our 4 league games that is also visible. Regardless of opinions on performance, we would have taken 9 out of 12. We will only get better too. The cups were disappointing but there were wholesale changes so we can't read much into that. Mate i agree with your points, what i am saying with all the gradious statments Kev has made, it will need more as to date on the field seems to have being forgotten. He talked about a 3 year plan to the prem etc , his actions have not backed this up to date. Btw i am not really having a go at him, what i am saying when you make huge statments, you have to back them up. Currently there is a lot fo work to do for him to back up his statments fully.
For me if your plan is the Premier league, then he has made / overseen some god awful shocking choices/ decisions. I suppose if he had never said anything, then its fair enough, but when you do then you have to make it happen.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 9, 2024 20:16:56 GMT 1
But PH didnt do any of it. You can't compare the two in any way. The new academy set up is visible. The money spent on new work spaces is visible. The money spent on changing rooms/exterior paint is visible. The murals are visible. The fanzone is visible. PH did not do any of those things, if he had, I'm sure some would see differently on his tenure. He was more bothered about being on a team photo in a training kit boosting his ego. He even lied about being at the 10-1 game for some unknown reason. We have won 3 out our 4 league games that is also visible. Regardless of opinions on performance, we would have taken 9 out of 12. We will only get better too. The cups were disappointing but there were wholesale changes so we can't read much into that. Mate i agree with your points, what i am saying with all the gradious statments Kev has made, it will need more as to date on the field seems to have being forgotten. He talked about a 3 year plan to the prem etc , his actions have not backed this up to date. Btw i am not really having a go at him, what i am saying when you make huge statments, you have to back them up. Currently there is a lot fo work to do for him to back up his statments fully.
For me if your plan is the Premier league, then he has made / overseen some god awful shocking choices/ decisions. I suppose if he had never said anything, then its fair enough, but when you do then you have to make it happen.
The 3 year plan was a silly comment to make and he has set himself up for criticism due to it. I believe the hiring of Moore based on stats was not a bad appointment. But it turned out to be abysmal. I genuinely feel they went for the 'safe' option which to be honest, I think we would have stayed up had we not sacked him. It was terrible football, but he would have seen us safe. I still believe the issue is MC and his due diligence on players and injury records.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 9, 2024 20:23:56 GMT 1
Mate i agree with your points, what i am saying with all the gradious statments Kev has made, it will need more as to date on the field seems to have being forgotten. He talked about a 3 year plan to the prem etc , his actions have not backed this up to date. Btw i am not really having a go at him, what i am saying when you make huge statments, you have to back them up. Currently there is a lot fo work to do for him to back up his statments fully.
For me if your plan is the Premier league, then he has made / overseen some god awful shocking choices/ decisions. I suppose if he had never said anything, then its fair enough, but when you do then you have to make it happen.
The 3 year plan was a silly comment to make and he has set himself up for criticism due to it. I believe the hiring of Moore based on stats was not a bad appointment. But it turned out to be abysmal. I genuinely feel they went for the 'safe' option which to be honest, I think we would have stayed up had we not sacked him. It was terrible football, but he would have seen us safe. I still believe the issue is MC and his due diligence on players and injury records. Moore "stats" were totally scewed by having the Sheff Wed job. He had the biggest budget and still very nearly screwed it up. I don't think for one second he would have kept us up, the players thought he was a big joke and would have tossed it off big time. Cartwright for me should have gone, the day after the Ipswich game, i get a bad feeling with this bloke. I get feelings of a chancer, who until he is gone/ found out, is merely having a right at our expense. We all know a billy B who , you always think how did he get that job, this is that guy. But the difference is soon as they are found out , they get the sack. The shame about Nagle is , for a man who claims t obe a "winner" and that he hates losing, he seems to quite like having losers and bullshitters around him.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 9, 2024 23:12:56 GMT 1
The 3 year plan was a silly comment to make and he has set himself up for criticism due to it. I believe the hiring of Moore based on stats was not a bad appointment. But it turned out to be abysmal. I genuinely feel they went for the 'safe' option which to be honest, I think we would have stayed up had we not sacked him. It was terrible football, but he would have seen us safe. I still believe the issue is MC and his due diligence on players and injury records. Moore "stats" were totally scewed by having the Sheff Wed job. He had the biggest budget and still very nearly screwed it up. I don't think for one second he would have kept us up, the players thought he was a big joke and would have tossed it off big time. Cartwright for me should have gone, the day after the Ipswich game, i get a bad feeling with this bloke. I get feelings of a chancer, who until he is gone/ found out, is merely having a right at our expense. We all know a billy B who , you always think how did he get that job, this is that guy. But the difference is soon as they are found out , they get the sack. The shame about Nagle is , for a man who claims t obe a "winner" and that he hates losing, he seems to quite like having losers and bullshitters around him. Ouch! Harsh but fair
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 9, 2024 23:26:20 GMT 1
Moore "stats" were totally scewed by having the Sheff Wed job. He had the biggest budget and still very nearly screwed it up. I don't think for one second he would have kept us up, the players thought he was a big joke and would have tossed it off big time. Cartwright for me should have gone, the day after the Ipswich game, i get a bad feeling with this bloke. I get feelings of a chancer, who until he is gone/ found out, is merely having a right at our expense. We all know a billy B who , you always think how did he get that job, this is that guy. But the difference is soon as they are found out , they get the sack. The shame about Nagle is , for a man who claims t obe a "winner" and that he hates losing, he seems to quite like having losers and bullshitters around him. Ouch! Harsh but fair I understand people might think its harsh, possibly so. My fear is that Nagle is being taken for a fool by the people he has appointed and he can't see it for whatever reason.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 9, 2024 23:27:59 GMT 1
Mate i agree with your points, what i am saying with all the gradious statments Kev has made, it will need more as to date on the field seems to have being forgotten. He talked about a 3 year plan to the prem etc , his actions have not backed this up to date. Btw i am not really having a go at him, what i am saying when you make huge statments, you have to back them up. Currently there is a lot fo work to do for him to back up his statments fully.
For me if your plan is the Premier league, then he has made / overseen some god awful shocking choices/ decisions. I suppose if he had never said anything, then its fair enough, but when you do then you have to make it happen.
The 3 year plan was a silly comment to make and he has set himself up for criticism due to it.I believe the hiring of Moore based on stats was not a bad appointment. But it turned out to be abysmal. I genuinely feel they went for the 'safe' option which to be honest, I think we would have stayed up had we not sacked him. It was terrible football, but he would have seen us safe. I still believe the issue is MC and his due diligence on players and injury records. It was Warnock who revealed they had a 3 year plan, not Nagle.
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Post by mosher on Sept 10, 2024 13:23:03 GMT 1
I am getting to a stage now where I don,t give a fuck what happen. As far as I am concerned Town will be stuck in the lower divs. forever. That's the spirit
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Post by harri54 on Sept 10, 2024 19:48:52 GMT 1
I'm patiently waiting for the backtracking posts from a number of posters, perhaps even apologies for jumping, knee-jerk fashion, to disrespectful conclusions, given we have now signed a div 1 striker with a proven record.
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Post by shawsie on Sept 10, 2024 20:44:02 GMT 1
Mate i agree with your points, what i am saying with all the gradious statments Kev has made, it will need more as to date on the field seems to have being forgotten. He talked about a 3 year plan to the prem etc , his actions have not backed this up to date. Btw i am not really having a go at him, what i am saying when you make huge statments, you have to back them up. Currently there is a lot fo work to do for him to back up his statments fully.
For me if your plan is the Premier league, then he has made / overseen some god awful shocking choices/ decisions. I suppose if he had never said anything, then its fair enough, but when you do then you have to make it happen.
The 3 year plan was a silly comment to make and he has set himself up for criticism due to it. I believe the hiring of Moore based on stats was not a bad appointment. But it turned out to be abysmal. I genuinely feel they went for the 'safe' option which to be honest, I think we would have stayed up had we not sacked him. It was terrible football, but he would have seen us safe. I still believe the issue is MC and his due diligence on players and injury records. Moore cudnt string a sentence together never mind results! Utterly clueless.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 10, 2024 20:58:05 GMT 1
The 3 year plan was a silly comment to make and he has set himself up for criticism due to it. I believe the hiring of Moore based on stats was not a bad appointment. But it turned out to be abysmal. I genuinely feel they went for the 'safe' option which to be honest, I think we would have stayed up had we not sacked him. It was terrible football, but he would have seen us safe. I still believe the issue is MC and his due diligence on players and injury records. Moore cudnt string a sentence together never mind results! Utterly clueless. Totally agree ,
I will accept a lot of the circumstance , that Nagle has come across or found himself part of. But appointing Moore as the man , to make this 3 year plan to the prem happen was a seriously stupid choice. Moore stats were scewed so badly at Sheff Wed , the squad played in spite of him not for him . He proved he cannot coach at Town. 3 wins in 23 is a joke. Nagle says he is a lovely man , this is not a charity KEV and further to this i say "so what". Be honest Moore was out of work after you panicked and sacked Warnock early.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 11, 2024 1:41:04 GMT 1
Dunc maybe we misunderstood Nagle , when he said "you can't have enough strikers". He may well have meant you can't have enough injured ones ? Nagle has shown he will pay lots of money out, if it means the people/ players coming into the club are rubbish at their jobs. I think it makes the excuses of failure easier to bleet out you see.
Forget what Kev has said about Cartwright etc, if they were as bad at another club, would they have got the sack? I would suggest so. Would Darren Moore have got 23 games, of which only 3 wins anywhere else ? Nagle said after "o but he was a lovely guy" - Yes Kevin he may well have being a "nice guy" but he clearly could not manage the team.
I honestly think Edwards/Cartwright cannot believe what a rubbish job they have done , yet got away with it, they probs chuckle when they get home.
If Hodgkinson had overseen this , would we have got the "slack" ? Nagle apparently is not potless, yet Phil was ? Phil could at least make proper choices and made them quickly. He did not have the money to back it up, but Nagle on the other hand....
Your last part is the part that people don't think through. KN has done a hell of a lot more than PH. Look at all the off field improvements for a start. From bringing back the academy to making the stadium and work spaces look more professional. Phil did non of that. On field. KN has spent money. He threw 2M at Healey. He was also willing to spend in the summer on May. But the car salesman in MC didn't utilise that money or have any plan B apart from a loan for Taylor. Personally MC is the issue. Balker, Bojan, Healey, Kane all suffering injuries within days/weeks of being here. If Healey or Bojan could stay fit, the striker argument/debate wouldn't be as heightened. I feel KN gets fat too much stick. Another example being posters over the last few years berating the ub for not being open with the fans. But then Kev tweets and the same posters throw insults at him. We have a weird bipolar fan base who can't make their minds up on what they actually want. For some people at the club it's a lose lose situation. Stay quiet and get insults, say something and get the same again. Buy a striker, we get 2 in Jan for decent fees, yet people are saying he won't pay for a striker?? Baffles me. Healey's transfer seems to get bigger every time someone quotes it. Whatever it was it was too much. I am just glad that after the comments that we have enough strikers, the club went out and finally sorted something out. Let's hope that it is a successful move.
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Post by mosher on Sept 11, 2024 8:29:13 GMT 1
I'm patiently waiting for the backtracking posts from a number of posters, perhaps even apologies for jumping, knee-jerk fashion, to disrespectful conclusions, given we have now signed a div 1 striker with a proven record. Don't hold your breath. And even if they do they'll be back on negative form as soon as he has a shit game.
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Post by mosher on Sept 11, 2024 8:32:14 GMT 1
Your last part is the part that people don't think through. KN has done a hell of a lot more than PH. Look at all the off field improvements for a start. From bringing back the academy to making the stadium and work spaces look more professional. Phil did non of that. On field. KN has spent money. He threw 2M at Healey. He was also willing to spend in the summer on May. But the car salesman in MC didn't utilise that money or have any plan B apart from a loan for Taylor. Personally MC is the issue. Balker, Bojan, Healey, Kane all suffering injuries within days/weeks of being here. If Healey or Bojan could stay fit, the striker argument/debate wouldn't be as heightened. I feel KN gets fat too much stick. Another example being posters over the last few years berating the ub for not being open with the fans. But then Kev tweets and the same posters throw insults at him. We have a weird bipolar fan base who can't make their minds up on what they actually want. For some people at the club it's a lose lose situation. Stay quiet and get insults, say something and get the same again. Buy a striker, we get 2 in Jan for decent fees, yet people are saying he won't pay for a striker?? Baffles me. Healey's transfer seems to get bigger every time someone quotes it. Whatever it was it was too much. I am just glad that after the comments that we have enough strikers, the club went out and finally sorted something out. Let's hope that it is a successful move. Don't remember seeing that quote from the club.
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Post by Werlinger on Sept 18, 2024 6:33:45 GMT 1
4-0 away ole oleeeeee Buck stops with Kev ole oleeeee
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Post by rockwall on Sept 18, 2024 19:07:59 GMT 1
Your last part is the part that people don't think through. KN has done a hell of a lot more than PH. Look at all the off field improvements for a start. From bringing back the academy to making the stadium and work spaces look more professional. Phil did non of that. On field. KN has spent money. He threw 2M at Healey. He was also willing to spend in the summer on May. But the car salesman in MC didn't utilise that money or have any plan B apart from a loan for Taylor. Personally MC is the issue. Balker, Bojan, Healey, Kane all suffering injuries within days/weeks of being here. If Healey or Bojan could stay fit, the striker argument/debate wouldn't be as heightened. I feel KN gets fat too much stick. Another example being posters over the last few years berating the ub for not being open with the fans. But then Kev tweets and the same posters throw insults at him. We have a weird bipolar fan base who can't make their minds up on what they actually want. For some people at the club it's a lose lose situation. Stay quiet and get insults, say something and get the same again. Buy a striker, we get 2 in Jan for decent fees, yet people are saying he won't pay for a striker?? Baffles me. Healey's transfer seems to get bigger every time someone quotes it. Whatever it was it was too much. I am just glad that after the comments that we have enough strikers, the club went out and finally sorted something out. Let's hope that it is a successful move. When did the club say we had enough strikers? If anything, kev has stated you can never have too many strikers. He stated that they have faith in the ones we have.
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Post by irverino on Sept 18, 2024 19:18:39 GMT 1
4-0 away ole oleeeeee Buck stops with Kev ole oleeeee Both his teams won so the birthday (70th?) celebration was made a little sweeter for Kev on Sunday......Big game for Sac against the leaders New Mexico tonight. Good luck to them.
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Sept 18, 2024 19:50:15 GMT 1
I'm patiently waiting for the backtracking posts from a number of posters, perhaps even apologies for jumping, knee-jerk fashion, to disrespectful conclusions, given we have now signed a div 1 striker with a proven record. They say patience is a virtue. Stats are not knee-jerk or disrespectful they're just facts. Hopefully this div one striker will score a hat full, then you will get that other virtue you're desperate for.
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Post by softboy on Sept 18, 2024 20:00:58 GMT 1
We have 5 fit strikers at the moment. Ward, Marshall, Koroma, Ladapo, Radulovic and Healy who unfortunately has major injury problems (and could well be one of the best of them when fit). Other than Brum I dont think any other team can better that.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Sept 23, 2024 14:27:57 GMT 1
Nagle and co achievements so far... Sacking the championships most successful ever manager and replacing him with statistically one of the worst in history. At great cost failing to choose the correct manager multiple times Relegation Failing to address the striker situation correctly (Again) Leaving us with an inadequate squad for the task at hand (Again) - that being autos. Could say failing to address the medical team situation; all these injuries can't be bad luck. ... The positives, the stadium that we rent is looking better! How can we find ourselves at the brink of fielding academy players after 7 games in League 1 and still using "The budget" as an excuse? Strikers cost money, there's a number that would've got May over the line before Birmingham got involved - or Taylor over the line. I want Nagle to do well but the CV so far isn't looking very good at all... If he was a faceless overseas investor, not a charming american i think there would be far more uproar given his achievements so far "We're in safe hands", just a shame the hands are about as much use as Joel Pereira's were.
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Post by Sio on Sept 24, 2024 10:27:07 GMT 1
Damning view of the club across the pond
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Post by Bubbles on Sept 24, 2024 10:46:56 GMT 1
Oh dear.Not a happy bunny.
A bit like a lot us us then…
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 24, 2024 10:51:15 GMT 1
Damning view of the club across the pond Didn't Nagle say in one of his Twitter videos that Sac Republic basically run themselves now with little input needed? He's an expert at pouring honey in people's ears but his naivety unreal.
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Post by detox on Sept 24, 2024 10:53:22 GMT 1
Has KN bitten off more than he can chew ?
The money he's been spending at Huddersfield is all show and appearance...the single most important thing is what goes on on the pitch, surely.?
The doubts about Duff are starting to surface..4 defeats in 5 games, and some absolutely woeful performances. is he unable to get a tune out of this squad...and if so what do we do about it ? The 'style' of football has changed to 'hoof', by-passing the expensive midfield..is this because he's given up on the non performing midfield too ?
To see Sacramento fans now complaining is going to give KN a big problem. Has he got the right people running the clubs, has he enough about him to act quickly and decisively ? The legacy of Moore and Breitenreiter at Town surely casts doubts, both were clearly wrong appointments and resulted in relegation down to level 3.
it's hard to watch Town playing so badly again..as they've done in most games this season, so it's understandable fans are getting nervous. I really hope Duff finds a solution, and soon...because another show like against Northampton, another defeat tonight..and alarm bells will start ringing even at this early stage of the season.
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Post by dugnet on Sept 24, 2024 11:46:54 GMT 1
Has KN bitten off more than he can chew ? The money he's been spending at Huddersfield is all show and appearance...the single most important thing is what goes on on the pitch, surely.? The doubts about Duff are starting to surface..4 defeats in 5 games, and some absolutely woeful performances. is he unable to get a tune out of this squad...and if so what do we do about it ? The 'style' of football has changed to 'hoof', by-passing the expensive midfield..is this because he's given up on the non performing midfield too ? To see Sacramento fans now complaining is going to give KN a big problem. Has he got the right people running the clubs, has he enough about him to act quickly and decisively ? The legacy of Moore and Breitenreiter at Town surely casts doubts, both were clearly wrong appointments and resulted in relegation down to level 3. it's hard to watch Town playing so badly again..as they've done in most games this season, so it's understandable fans are getting nervous. I really hope Duff finds a solution, and soon...because another show like against Northampton, another defeat tonight..and alarm bells will start ringing even at this early stage of the season. I am not going to criticise your observations because there is an element of truth and many will agree but we need to challenge Mr Nagle reasonably and positively. As it stands I would say this to him: "You have set a target of promotion for this season, at what point do you evaluate if we are on track (to achieve that ambition). Moreover at what point do you reflect on what you have learned from your time in charge and what do you think is required (to be successful in the long term)". I completely understand the levels of frustration but this is a time for clear thinking. Ranting on social media (NB: I am not accusing you of a rant at all here, but there are plenty who do/will), and Mr Nagle reacting on social media, isn't going to change things. Although I would say there has been progress this season, and I understand why some would disagree, the Jeckyll and Hyde nature of our performances show there is still much to do. As for Michael Duff I believe we have to allow him the opportunity to evolve the team. Tonight will be interesting as I would imagine Saturday maybe a catalyst for a change in personnel, if not shape. The midfield clearly hasn't worked consistently (Wiles and Evans seem to isolate themselves into positions where they are next to useless) and if the wing backs aren't up to speed, and they weren't on Saturday, we look very poor. That is down to MD to resolve. If he doesn't then his overall ability will be challenged, but, for me, we aren't anywhere near that. Time is a commodity that isn't in plentiful supply at HTAFC. However, as I have posted a couple of times in recent days, I coming round to the view that turning the town tanker around will take longer than we would like. Mr Nagle does however need to consider the bigger picture and act accordingly. More investment is likely to be required but he has to make sure that investment actually delivers. He must have spent something significant so far. Assuming that he can't be too happy so far rather than saying things are "unacceptable!" he needs to determine what is not working and change it. If he doesn't do that, or he is not sufficiently talented to recognise the issues (NB: I don't doubt his sincerity/desire, but that doesn't mean he is naturally competent in football administration) then things won't change. Well, not quickly. In the immediate term tonight is important. It is important for MD. Blackpool are riding some momentum and have, whatever we think of him, a very experienced manager. Bruce will understand the issues we have on the pitch and he will also know what the mood off the pitch is like. It is down to MD and the players to counter that and rise above the dross they delivered on Saturday. The truth is we may well see something better on the pitch tonight but even if we do it won't mean that we have really turned a corner. Fail to improve tonight will merely highlight much more is done to make the club successful. As I say I am not having a dig at your view, and it will be shared, but just trying to move the debate forward and in the hope that those in charge are aware of what I see the issues are.
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Post by softboy on Sept 24, 2024 12:25:22 GMT 1
Only 12 points from first 6 games. Poor is that. Can see why there's all this critisism. Works out at only 92 points for the season. No where near good enough. I think that sum's up the mood on here.
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Post by detox on Sept 24, 2024 13:05:51 GMT 1
Only 12 points from first 6 games. Poor is that. Can see why there's all this critisism. Works out at only 92 points for the season. No where near good enough. I think that sum's up the mood on here. You'd be right...it doesn't matter how we play, so long as we get 2 points per game all season...We've had 'hard watches' before..under Wagner and Corberan ... I feel like I want entertainment AND success...but if you're not entertaining then it's a must that you're successful ?
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Post by Bubbles on Sept 24, 2024 13:28:06 GMT 1
Only 12 points from first 6 games. Poor is that. Can see why there's all this critisism. Works out at only 92 points for the season. No where near good enough. I think that sum's up the mood on here. We shouldn’t be in this league in the first place though,I think that’s where a lot of it stems from.
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Post by royrace on Sept 24, 2024 13:55:42 GMT 1
Only 12 points from first 6 games. Poor is that. Can see why there's all this critisism. Works out at only 92 points for the season. No where near good enough. I think that sum's up the mood on here. We shouldn’t be in this league in the first place though,I think that’s where a lot of it stems from. Yes, like it or not it's their fault we're in this shitty league so we're not going to be as patient as we might. They're lucky I bought a ticket after the self inflicted relegation they orchestrated, I've absolutely no desire to see us get whooped by Northampton or similar. May sounds harsh but I think it's fair and understandable all things considered. That doesn't mean I expect town to walk the league but I don't expect a performance like Saturday either, or the others that preceded it to be honest. Didn't go to Bolton but before we scored people on here were saying we were poor then. I'd hoped for some half decent football at this stage tbh and I'm yet to see if play well.
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