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Post by tottz on Sept 24, 2024 22:12:57 GMT 1
Football wise, he has done absolutely everything wrong since he came in. Wonder how we'd have fared under the Dutch consortium Wonder how we would have faired under an ex chairman who didn’t cripple us with demands for his “loans” back? I kinda get what you're saying- Dean Hoyle nasty man etc. Still, doesn't detract from the fact that Nagle's made a bollocks of his time |
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Post by tottz on Sept 24, 2024 22:14:36 GMT 1
Football wise, he has done absolutely everything wrong since he came in. Wonder how we'd have fared under the Dutch consortium 100% largely because they are heavily involved in data and analytics. Hopefully he will get bored and sell soon. Would have been interesting to see. They were my preference at the time. Could have been equally as bad if not worse though |
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Sept 24, 2024 22:32:45 GMT 1
Just don’t get why people on here are still having ago at DH. KN has been in charge for over a year now and supposedly has the finances to run the club. He said the aim was promotion this season or was that just a sales pitch to sell ST’s? Under KN we’ve had 3 piss poor transfer windows and 4 managers. Ultimately our current failures are down to KN and his ‘advisors’ I’m not a DH lover by any means but he took us from L1 to the Premier League. Can’t see that happening under KN
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Sept 24, 2024 22:36:01 GMT 1
I made a point a while ago on here that all the twitter posts/twitter spats with Leeds fans,CD being on here etc etc looked bad/tinpot/unprofessional and that all fans really care about is winning games. Do that, they will be happy and attend in numbers regardless of all the crap mentioned above.
I was absolutely torn apart for saying this… my god was I right.
The irony is that KN and his mates seem to have finally learned to keep quiet, the fact they couldn’t do at this exact stage of last season is unforgivable.
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Post by space hardware on Sept 24, 2024 22:39:45 GMT 1
Seems a decent bloke, with the right intentions.
Unfortunately, he's clueless about our game and has employed (somehow) even more clueless people than him to run the club on behalf of him.
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Post by E4b on Sept 24, 2024 22:45:54 GMT 1
Over the years we have had far better players than this shower even when the Chairmen/Owners didn’t have a two bob bit to scratch their arse with!
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Post by andyboothscat on Sept 24, 2024 22:49:47 GMT 1
Seems a decent bloke, with the right intentions. Unfortunately, he's clueless about our game and has employed (somehow) even more clueless people than him to run the club on behalf of him. Fair. I think he surrounds himself with yes men and it’s absolutely killing us. |
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Post by ibby on Sept 24, 2024 23:23:55 GMT 1
Kev needs to get proper football people, to run the club.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 24, 2024 23:30:24 GMT 1
Publicly slates the team with a load of kids making their debuts away in a pointless tournament yet stays silent after these last two disgraceful home performances? 🤔
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 24, 2024 23:37:17 GMT 1
Some people on here have criticised the US owner of Birmingham City for having the cheek to spend what’s required to ensure his club gets out of this terrible league at the 1st attempt.
He’s paid a record Division 1 fee for a striker who ( wait for it ) just can’t stop scoring and assembled a squad that surely must go up this season.
The only thing left to chance is that the manager can mould them into a team, looks very likely that he can.
In contrast ( and I know we are hampered by existing contracts ) Town make low cost signings and apparently our search for a striker consisted of a shortlist of only 2 players both unattainable and we end up signing a free agent .
It’s pretty clear to me that our management team, when considering what’s required to get out of League 1, have showed a staggering amount of naivety.
It seems that we are still Little Old Huddersfield Town.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 24, 2024 23:59:06 GMT 1
Some people on here have criticised the US owner of Birmingham City for having the cheek to spend what’s required to ensure his club gets out of this terrible league at the 1st attempt. He’s paid a record Division 1 fee for a striker who ( wait for it ) just can’t stop scoring and assembled a squad that surely must go up this season. The only thing left to chance is that the manager can mould them into a team, looks very likely that he can. In contrast ( and I know we are hampered by existing contracts ) Town make low cost signings and apparently our search for a striker consisted of a shortlist of only 2 players both unattainable and we end up signing a free agent . It’s pretty clear to me that our management team, when considering what’s required to get out of League 1, have showed a staggering amount of naivety. It seems that we are still Little Old Huddersfield Town. What?! It's nothing to do with 'having the cheek' in spending what they've spent, and everything to do with being wholly reckless, and placing their club in an incredibly perilous position. Even if they do go up, they have put themselves in a position that (as history has repeatedly shown) has an overwhelming likelihood of causing them some serious hardship down the line. It's not 'smart' or 'savvy', it's just outright gambling with a club's future existence, not to mention that it's entirely unnecessary to spend that kind of money to get out of this division, hence why literally nobody has done it before, not even close. I honestly can't believe that anyone who isn't a Birmingham fan would try to validate the way they've gone about their business, it's absolutely crackers, and regardless of whether we go up or not, I'm fucking glad it hasn't happened here. |
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Post by DuffMan on Sept 25, 2024 0:03:08 GMT 1
I don't think anyone wants us to do a Birmingham, however somewhere in between would have been nice given all the talk from the club. We look like we've scrimped again and like another poster was saying, we loved talking up our chances and club size then signed a load of freebies and gambles
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Post by space hardware on Sept 25, 2024 0:06:46 GMT 1
Some people on here have criticised the US owner of Birmingham City for having the cheek to spend what’s required to ensure his club gets out of this terrible league at the 1st attempt. He’s paid a record Division 1 fee for a striker who ( wait for it ) just can’t stop scoring and assembled a squad that surely must go up this season. The only thing left to chance is that the manager can mould them into a team, looks very likely that he can. In contrast ( and I know we are hampered by existing contracts ) Town make low cost signings and apparently our search for a striker consisted of a shortlist of only 2 players both unattainable and we end up signing a free agent . It’s pretty clear to me that our management team, when considering what’s required to get out of League 1, have showed a staggering amount of naivety. It seems that we are still Little Old Huddersfield Town. Birmingham's US owners have secured sponsorship with Delta Airlines etc, which renders all that bollocks about FFP completely irrelevant. They can spend what the fuck they want getting out of this shite league, and good luck to them. Wrexham, similar, United Airlines and Hewlett-Packard. Us? Our billionaire owner? Which equivalent companies are partnering with Town? |
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Post by DuffMan on Sept 25, 2024 0:09:12 GMT 1
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Post by space hardware on Sept 25, 2024 0:10:36 GMT 1
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 25, 2024 7:17:02 GMT 1
Some people on here have criticised the US owner of Birmingham City for having the cheek to spend what’s required to ensure his club gets out of this terrible league at the 1st attempt. He’s paid a record Division 1 fee for a striker who ( wait for it ) just can’t stop scoring and assembled a squad that surely must go up this season. The only thing left to chance is that the manager can mould them into a team, looks very likely that he can. In contrast ( and I know we are hampered by existing contracts ) Town make low cost signings and apparently our search for a striker consisted of a shortlist of only 2 players both unattainable and we end up signing a free agent . It’s pretty clear to me that our management team, when considering what’s required to get out of League 1, have showed a staggering amount of naivety. It seems that we are still Little Old Huddersfield Town. Birmingham's US owners have secured sponsorship with Delta Airlines etc, which renders all that bollocks about FFP completely irrelevant. They can spend what the fuck they want getting out of this shite league, and good luck to them. Wrexham, similar, United Airlines and Hewlett-Packard. Us? Our billionaire owner? Which equivalent companies are partnering with Town? Makes you wonder what the heck Domenic Notarfrancesco (Head of global brand) is supposedly doing? The way things are going we’d be better off with Gerald Ratner, he’d be more up our street. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Sept 25, 2024 7:46:14 GMT 1
In the famous words of Jamie Vardy. “Chat sh** get banged” and that’s all the club have done all summer. Promised the earth delivered zero, can see why sac republic fans are fed up of it too.
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 25, 2024 7:48:10 GMT 1
Birmingham's US owners have secured sponsorship with Delta Airlines etc, which renders all that bollocks about FFP completely irrelevant. They can spend what the fuck they want getting out of this shite league, and good luck to them. Wrexham, similar, United Airlines and Hewlett-Packard. Us? Our billionaire owner? Which equivalent companies are partnering with Town? Makes you wonder what the heck Domenic Notarfrancesco (Head of global brand) is supposedly doing? The way things are going we’d be better off with Gerald Ratner, he’d be more up our street. We talk a good game, seem to have identified a lot of the issues but then nothing changes or the pace is glacial at best. |
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Post by ldr on Sept 25, 2024 7:51:07 GMT 1
Haha! Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Sept 25, 2024 7:54:21 GMT 1
Haha! Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated? Hoyle was never going to sell to somebody that would make him look worse was he? Hence why we’re now stuck where we are. |
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Post by Larry David on Sept 25, 2024 7:55:16 GMT 1
Nagel the longer is here the more I dislike him.
Empty promises, failing to deliver the basics (a striker) and utter waffle, then he has the gaul to interfere on twitter identifying the issues... WHICH ALL COME BACK TO HIM
if it wasn't my club it would be hugely comical
He is a new version of a snake oil salesman
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 25, 2024 8:03:05 GMT 1
I like KN but he's made two huge mistakes
1) Employing Mark Cartwright
2) Not sacking Mark Cartwright
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 25, 2024 8:08:41 GMT 1
I like KN but he's made two huge mistakes 1) Employing Mark Cartwright 2) Not sacking Mark Cartwright The footballing side of things has been an absolute circus since Nagle took over. Cartwright is the one common denominator yet he remains in a job and no doubt putting his next disasterplan in place for the January window. We are 7 games in and already the manager who builds his whole ethos around 352 is having to change his formation and philosophy because the squad isn’t up to it. Doesn’t get much more damning for a DOF than that surely? |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 25, 2024 8:18:10 GMT 1
Don’t know why I’ve not worked it out sooner but the name Cartwright is derived from someone who makes carts. A man that is accustomed to keeping cart horses employed, maybe that is why he is so good at finding them.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 25, 2024 8:25:55 GMT 1
Don’t know why I’ve not worked it out sooner but the name Cartwright is derived from someone who makes carts. A man that is accustomed to keeping cart horses employed, maybe that is why he is so good at finding them. Neigh lad… |
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Post by DuffMan on Sept 25, 2024 8:30:24 GMT 1
Haha! Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated? Hoyle was never going to sell to somebody that would make him look worse was he? Hence why we’re now stuck where we are. Can you fuck off with this shit. Even the stupidest human on the planet wouldn’t genuinely believe this kind of crap. It’s nothing to do with Dean Hoyle |
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Post by Uddersfield on Sept 25, 2024 8:33:51 GMT 1
Got all the right intentions for the club but he’s being horribly advised. Warnock for Moore last season deserved a sacking on its own.
Being provided with players who have horrific injury records because they’re probably cheaper and then being shocked and falling back on the injuries excuse - i.e Miller, Healey, Balker. Recruitment has been an absolute shambles - how can he not be pissed off with the money that’s being wasted? Not to mention the payouts to managers.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Sept 25, 2024 8:34:15 GMT 1
Hoyle was never going to sell to somebody that would make him look worse was he? Hence why we’re now stuck where we are. Can you fuck off with this shit. Even the stupidest human on the planet wouldn’t genuinely believe this kind of crap. It’s nothing to do with Dean Hoyle Are you literally serious? He sold the club to KN so has to take responsibility too. |
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Post by DuffMan on Sept 25, 2024 8:36:20 GMT 1
Can you fuck off with this shit. Even the stupidest human on the planet wouldn’t genuinely believe this kind of crap. It’s nothing to do with Dean Hoyle Are you literally serious? He sold the club to KN so has to take responsibility too. No he doesn’t he sold the club 18 months ago to the guy with the most money. Thread title is correct the buck stops with Kev |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 25, 2024 8:39:52 GMT 1
Haha! Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated? Hoyle was never going to sell to somebody that would make him look worse was he? Hence why we’re now stuck where we are. Utter tosh, I don’t know DH but even if he does have an ego I doubt that he would put it before the club given him being a boyhood supporter. More like circumstance really. I do think KN’s motives are honourable, but he’s taken on a project that’s beyond his capability, this is a complete punt in some respects and he’s less than 2 years in. It’s difficult, particularly in modern day football, to understand the impatience that surrounds football supporters, and also difficult to understand the challenges of getting promoted from any division. As for Birmingham, good luck to them, but if that were us, signing £10m players in L1 there would always be a part of me that thought that any success as a consequence, would be tainted. What happens if they do get promoted, are they going to chuck hundreds of £m’s on transfers in the Championship. It’s hardly a fairytale is it, just another club in the mould of the Man C, Chelski etc., punting on casino football. I want Town to succeed, but more in the mould of Buxton, Wagner etc., where the sum of the parts is what provided success, not how many spare £m’s I could chuck at a problem… I’m pretty sure KN knows the honeymoon period ended long ago, and hopefully he’s even more aware of how disgruntled folk are and realises time is of the essence to avoid this becoming a self fulfilling prophecy… |
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