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Post by royrace on Sept 29, 2024 8:35:11 GMT 1
Doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters is whether thr club is run well or poorly and for years we've been the latter. Nagle has run the club badly and we have been relegated. As long as he continues to do run things badly, we'll struggle. If he runs the club OK we may scrape up through the play offs at some point. If he somehow manages to do a complete U-turn and starts running is with a level of competency, Championship guaranteed and an outside chance of the playoffs to the Premier League await. Genuine question, how is the club being run badly? Being relegated is a consequence but a consequence of what? What do you think are the actions by KN that have led to us being where we are? Let's do a root cause analysis because it's easy to say x is shit or y is shit but unless you actually know the facts then it's all hyperbole I think we've all conducted an in-depth, and detailed root cause analysis and the report has one name one it. |
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Post by Jack on Sept 29, 2024 8:50:34 GMT 1
Genuine question, how is the club being run badly? Being relegated is a consequence but a consequence of what? What do you think are the actions by KN that have led to us being where we are? Let's do a root cause analysis because it's easy to say x is shit or y is shit but unless you actually know the facts then it's all hyperbole 1) sacking Warnock 2) replacing him with Darren Moore who we all knew would be shite 3) replacing Moore with Breitenreiter, an unknown to English football when we needed a Rowett type, someone who knew the Championship. You could add to that we spent nowhere near what was required to keep us competitive in the Championship in the summer of 2023 nor brought in the right players in January to keep us up. This lies at Cartwright’s door and Nagle appointed him. The bad decision making goes right to the top. You could have stopped at 1). The club was crying out for stability and the plan was a good one but sadly Nagle decided to start running the club on ego. |
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Post by stevvy on Sept 29, 2024 9:01:23 GMT 1
Wish people would stop going on about other teams games in hand so we can drop further. It isn't the final week of the season, the games in hand aren't this midweek, so those sorts of comments are nonsense and pointless, because by the time those games in hand come around, the table will look different to how it does now. It's not the final week of the season. If it was, fair enough, but it isn't, so the games in hand nonsense peddled by some (including saying we can drop further places because of them) is, to put it simply, totally irrelevant. Nobody even has a game in hand scheduled until the back end of October, and even then it's currently only 3 games, and there's an international break to come which will mean most teams having games postponed (likely including us) At full time yesterday we were 8th which I pointed out was a false position, we're now 10th. How is that irrelevant? 🤔 You said 4 teams have the chance to go above us with their games in hand. That's irrelevant because by the time those games in hand come around, that likely won't be the case. If those games in hand were this midweek, you might have had a point. But they're not. |
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Post by terrier1000 on Sept 29, 2024 9:07:13 GMT 1
If I was Kevin, I would be getting on a plane and coming over asap to see what the atmosphere is like at the club, especially if we lose the next 2 games. Don't think he can trust the views of Cartwright/Edwards at the moment
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 29, 2024 9:15:31 GMT 1
At full time yesterday we were 8th which I pointed out was a false position, we're now 10th. How is that irrelevant? 🤔 You said 4 teams have the chance to go above us with their games in hand. That's irrelevant because by the time those games in hand come around, that likely won't be the case. If those games in hand were this midweek, you might have had a point. But they're not. Two of those teams played in the evening and both went above us. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 30, 2024 10:27:18 GMT 1
Didn’t really know where to put this post and didn’t want to start a new thread but ultimately the buck does stop with Kev, so this will do.
I’ve had cause to have made six return trips from Surrey to Birstall over the last six weeks or so and managed to fit in the Shrewsbury and Northampton games. I only missed the Reading game because we as a family were still up north after a funeral on Friday. I
I had bought my ticket for Barnsley so was going to drive up on Friday but I’ve just contacted the ticket office and got a refund on my Barnsley ticket. That is the FIRST time I can recall ever cancelling a ticket to watch Town.
I couldn’t face yet another round trip up and down the bloody M1 and M25. IF there was any real prospect of being entertained and seeing a Town win I’m sure I’d have made that 4+ hours journey yet again, but I’m exhausted and I’ve had enough, for now.
Kevin, you need to prove that you are serious about HTAFC. What do you really want of the club, where do you really want it to be this time next year and the year after that? This club needs grabbing by the balls. Have you the integrity and the balls to do exactly that?
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Post by dugnet on Sept 30, 2024 10:42:29 GMT 1
Didn’t really know where to put this post and didn’t want to start a new thread but ultimately the buck does stop with Kev, so this will do. I’ve had cause to have made six return trips from Surrey to Birstall over the last six weeks or so and managed to fit in the Shrewsbury and Northampton games. I only missed the Reading game because we as a family were still up north after a funeral on Friday. I I had bought my ticket for Barnsley so was going to drive up on Friday but I’ve just contacted the ticket office and got a refund on my Barnsley ticket. That is the FIRST time I can recall ever cancelling a ticket to watch Town. I couldn’t face yet another round trip up and down the bloody M1 and M25. IF there was any real prospect of being entertained and seeing a Town win I’m sure I’d have made that 4+ hours journey yet again, but I’m exhausted and I’ve had enough, for now. Kevin, you need to prove that you are serious about HTAFC. What do you really want of the club, where do you really want it to be this time next year and the year after that? This club needs grabbing by the balls. Have you the integrity and the balls to do exactly that? The fact that such a loyal fan has sought a refund and has chosen to not make a, very, significant journey should send a message. My view on Mr Nagle isn't so much about desire (to be successful) but more about competence. Investment is undoubtedly important but it is how you use the money that is more important. Mr Nagle must have burnt significant cash so far and on the pitch we have the same problems we have had for a long time. At the very least I would expect him to be challenging those he has employed to what is happening/what needs to change. Short term we are relying on MD and the players to find a way. I don't think we have any choice but to allow them to do that. Evidence to date suggests there's a lot that needs to change. Here's hoping that we get away at Sutton in the FA Cup 1st round just for you  |
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Post by rockwall on Sept 30, 2024 11:00:03 GMT 1
Doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters is whether thr club is run well or poorly and for years we've been the latter. Nagle has run the club badly and we have been relegated. As long as he continues to do run things badly, we'll struggle. If he runs the club OK we may scrape up through the play offs at some point. If he somehow manages to do a complete U-turn and starts running is with a level of competency, Championship guaranteed and an outside chance of the playoffs to the Premier League await. Please can you share where Nagle has been running the club badly? |
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 30, 2024 11:18:21 GMT 1
Doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters is whether thr club is run well or poorly and for years we've been the latter. Nagle has run the club badly and we have been relegated. As long as he continues to do run things badly, we'll struggle. If he runs the club OK we may scrape up through the play offs at some point. If he somehow manages to do a complete U-turn and starts running is with a level of competency, Championship guaranteed and an outside chance of the playoffs to the Premier League await. Please can you share where Nagle has been running the club badly? We currently sit 10th in League One. No matter what defence you make for Nagle, in his first season owning the club we were relegated on his watch. That happened because the club was and still is being run badly. |
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Post by irverino on Sept 30, 2024 11:39:44 GMT 1
Didn’t really know where to put this post and didn’t want to start a new thread but ultimately the buck does stop with Kev, so this will do. I’ve had cause to have made six return trips from Surrey to Birstall over the last six weeks or so and managed to fit in the Shrewsbury and Northampton games. I only missed the Reading game because we as a family were still up north after a funeral on Friday. I I had bought my ticket for Barnsley so was going to drive up on Friday but I’ve just contacted the ticket office and got a refund on my Barnsley ticket. That is the FIRST time I can recall ever cancelling a ticket to watch Town. I couldn’t face yet another round trip up and down the bloody M1 and M25. IF there was any real prospect of being entertained and seeing a Town win I’m sure I’d have made that 4+ hours journey yet again, but I’m exhausted and I’ve had enough, for now. Kevin, you need to prove that you are serious about HTAFC. What do you really want of the club, where do you really want it to be this time next year and the year after that? This club needs grabbing by the balls. Have you the integrity and the balls to do exactly that? The fact that such a loyal fan has sought a refund and has chosen to not make a, very, significant journey should send a message. My view o Mr Nagle isn't so much about desire (to be successful) but more about competence. Investment is undoubtedly important but it is how you use the money that is more important. Mr Nagle must have burnt significant cash so far and on the pitch we have the same problems we have had for a long time. At the very least I would expect him to be challenging those he has employed to what is happening/what needs to change. Short term we are relying on MD and the players to find a way. I don't think we have any choice but to allow them to do that. Evidence to date suggests there's a lot that needs to change. Here's hoping that we get away at Sutton in the FA Cup 1st round just for you My mate travels up from Hampshire for every home game so I know exactly how much time & effort guys like Walton OTHT put in to support Town regularly. Not a soft under belly amongst them so when when one of the die-hards says he's had enough (or belly full of shite) it should send a strong statement........Cup draw a fortnight today & Sutton (starting to motor) away could probably see a quick exit for Town. |
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Post by andyboothscat on Sept 30, 2024 11:41:24 GMT 1
Please can you share where Nagle has been running the club badly? We currently sit 10th in League One. No matter what defence you make for Nagle, in his first season owning the club we were relegated on his watch. That happened because the club was and still is being run badly. 100% agree. I’m gobsmacked that someone needs to ask that question to be honest. Things could not have gone any worse under KNs stewardship so far. It’s that simple. |
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 30, 2024 12:00:51 GMT 1
The fact that such a loyal fan has sought a refund and has chosen to not make a, very, significant journey should send a message. My view o Mr Nagle isn't so much about desire (to be successful) but more about competence. Investment is undoubtedly important but it is how you use the money that is more important. Mr Nagle must have burnt significant cash so far and on the pitch we have the same problems we have had for a long time. At the very least I would expect him to be challenging those he has employed to what is happening/what needs to change. Short term we are relying on MD and the players to find a way. I don't think we have any choice but to allow them to do that. Evidence to date suggests there's a lot that needs to change. Here's hoping that we get away at Sutton in the FA Cup 1st round just for you My mate travels up from Hampshire for every home game so I know exactly how much time & effort guys like Walton OTHT put in to support Town regularly. Not a soft under belly amongst them so when when one of the die-hards says he's had enough (or belly full of shite) it should send a strong statement........Cup draw a fortnight today & Sutton (starting to motor) away could probably see a quick exit for Town. Yet Tom Lees thinks fans are expecting too much. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 30, 2024 12:18:49 GMT 1
The fact that such a loyal fan has sought a refund and has chosen to not make a, very, significant journey should send a message. My view o Mr Nagle isn't so much about desire (to be successful) but more about competence. Investment is undoubtedly important but it is how you use the money that is more important. Mr Nagle must have burnt significant cash so far and on the pitch we have the same problems we have had for a long time. At the very least I would expect him to be challenging those he has employed to what is happening/what needs to change. Short term we are relying on MD and the players to find a way. I don't think we have any choice but to allow them to do that. Evidence to date suggests there's a lot that needs to change. Here's hoping that we get away at Sutton in the FA Cup 1st round just for you My mate travels up from Hampshire for every home game so I know exactly how much time & effort guys like Walton OTHT put in to support Town regularly. Not a soft under belly amongst them so when when one of the die-hards says he's had enough (or belly full of shite) it should send a strong statement........Cup draw a fortnight today & Sutton (starting to motor) away could probably see a quick exit for Town. Thanks for the comments, and thanks also to dugnet. Yes, home games do require more time, effort and expense for me, but it’s the way it is. I am a lifelong Town fan and that won’t ever change. However, I was 70 only 11 days ago, my mum will be 101 in 6 weeks and my sister and her family as well as my mum are in Birstall. I’m dreading the time when I know I’ll no longer be able to get back up there, but hopefully it’s a long way off yet. I said I’d had enough for now. I’ll be off to Orient and Wycombe,100%, and I’m definitely going to come up for the Exeter game because they are another club I’ve had connections with and I like them immensely (hello, workshyfop). I just need a quiet week at home. As for Sutton in the FA Cup….. a double-edged sword for me! I want both them and Town to do as well as possible, but if they happened to play each other I’d want Town to absolutely hammer them. All I can guarantee is that Town fans would be made very welcome but Town fans may not enjoy the facilities. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 30, 2024 12:21:34 GMT 1
Doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters is whether thr club is run well or poorly and for years we've been the latter. Nagle has run the club badly and we have been relegated. As long as he continues to do run things badly, we'll struggle. If he runs the club OK we may scrape up through the play offs at some point. If he somehow manages to do a complete U-turn and starts running is with a level of competency, Championship guaranteed and an outside chance of the playoffs to the Premier League await. Please can you share where Nagle has been running the club badly? The fact that Nagle publicly apologised to the fans after relegation, stating they must do better and they haven't earned the trust of the fans or the right to put SC prices up kind of tells you all you need to know. He was also critical of the first two home performances this season and publicly criticised the team after the Doncaster game. Nobody thinks things are going well, not even himself. |
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Post by rockwall on Sept 30, 2024 12:25:07 GMT 1
Please can you share where Nagle has been running the club badly? We currently sit 10th in League One. No matter what defence you make for Nagle, in his first season owning the club we were relegated on his watch. That happened because the club was and still is being run badly. A huge difference in being run badly and making a couple of wrong decisions. Has Nagle made mistakes? Yes. Is he running the club badly? Not a chance. |
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Post by tottz on Sept 30, 2024 12:38:37 GMT 1
Doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters is whether thr club is run well or poorly and for years we've been the latter. Nagle has run the club badly and we have been relegated. As long as he continues to do run things badly, we'll struggle. If he runs the club OK we may scrape up through the play offs at some point. If he somehow manages to do a complete U-turn and starts running is with a level of competency, Championship guaranteed and an outside chance of the playoffs to the Premier League await. Please can you share where Nagle has been running the club badly? I'm not trying to be facetious when I say this, but imagine Cardiff were taken over in a few months and the previous administration brought in Neil Warnock to save them from relegation. The new administration kept Warnock, didn't back him in the transfer window, fell out with him publicly and then sacked him for a defensive manager. Despite bad results, the owner publicly backed him, then slated him on social media and ended up sacking him toward the end of the window. The owner then waited a month or so to name a successor, who took the team down and openly criticised the playing staff. Over the summer the owner issues a rallying cry to fans and targets an immediate return to the Championship. The results of the transfer window don't match his claims. Then he goes on Twitter and repeats the same mistake, this time lambasting a team made up of young players. Oh and him and his sidekick spend a lot of time winding up Swansea fans on Twitter and bragging about a 1-1 draw. I think 99/100 people would aye, "Bloody hell that Cardiff owner's a nutter, he's dragging the club through the mud" |
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Post by rockwall on Sept 30, 2024 12:56:45 GMT 1
Please can you share where Nagle has been running the club badly? I'm not trying to be facetious when I say this, but imagine Cardiff were taken over in a few months and the previous administration brought in Neil Warnock to save them from relegation. The new administration kept Warnock, didn't back him in the transfer window, fell out with him publicly and then sacked him for a defensive manager. Despite bad results, the owner publicly backed him, then slated him on social media and ended up sacking him toward the end of the window. The owner then waited a month or so to name a successor, who took the team down and openly criticised the playing staff. Over the summer the owner issues a rallying cry to fans and targets an immediate return to the Championship. The results of the transfer window don't match his claims. Then he goes on Twitter and repeats the same mistake, this time lambasting a team made up of young players. Oh and him and his sidekick spend a lot of time winding up Swansea fans on Twitter and bragging about a 1-1 draw. I think 99/100 people would aye, "Bloody hell that Cardiff owner's a nutter, he's dragging the club through the mud" What utter utter bollocks. The Warnock debate has been done to desth on here, but you go behind your boss' back and see what happens. Nobody is bigger than the club and Warnock was a cause of his own sacking. Ruffels, Ward and his sons agency. The whole social media thing I really don't see the issue. I see it as passio and care. He has never signalled anyone out, that's how you've twisted it. Again, the use of the word 'lambasting'is also way over the top. The money these so called professionals are paid, they should have a backbone and take the stick they have deserved, publicly or not. You're spending a lot of time spouting about Kev and Dave. So whats the point on them winding Swansea fans up? Especially Dave, he has nothing to do with the club apart from he feeds back to his mate. Such a bipolar fanbase, its cringe and pathetic. It's the same old story, a few wins it's all 'we will be promoted bla bla' a few defeats and it's 'Nagle is shit bla bla'. |
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 30, 2024 12:57:25 GMT 1
We currently sit 10th in League One. No matter what defence you make for Nagle, in his first season owning the club we were relegated on his watch. That happened because the club was and still is being run badly. A huge difference in being run badly and making a couple of wrong decisions. Has Nagle made mistakes? Yes. Is he running the club badly? Not a chance. Getting relegated to league one is running the club badly. |
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Post by rockwall on Sept 30, 2024 13:01:36 GMT 1
A huge difference in being run badly and making a couple of wrong decisions. Has Nagle made mistakes? Yes. Is he running the club badly? Not a chance. Getting relegated to league one is running the club badly. No. Years and years of poorly managed finances and decisions has caused the eventual relegation to League 1. It was always going to happen, should have happened the season before but we got very fortunate. You don't keep scraping the barrell and always come out on top. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Sept 30, 2024 13:12:15 GMT 1
I'm not trying to be facetious when I say this, but imagine Cardiff were taken over in a few months and the previous administration brought in Neil Warnock to save them from relegation. The new administration kept Warnock, didn't back him in the transfer window, fell out with him publicly and then sacked him for a defensive manager. Despite bad results, the owner publicly backed him, then slated him on social media and ended up sacking him toward the end of the window. The owner then waited a month or so to name a successor, who took the team down and openly criticised the playing staff. Over the summer the owner issues a rallying cry to fans and targets an immediate return to the Championship. The results of the transfer window don't match his claims. Then he goes on Twitter and repeats the same mistake, this time lambasting a team made up of young players. Oh and him and his sidekick spend a lot of time winding up Swansea fans on Twitter and bragging about a 1-1 draw. I think 99/100 people would aye, "Bloody hell that Cardiff owner's a nutter, he's dragging the club through the mud" What utter utter bollocks. The Warnock debate has been done to desth on here, but you go behind your boss' back and see what happens. Nobody is bigger than the club and Warnock was a cause of his own sacking. Ruffels, Ward and his sons agency. The whole social media thing I really don't see the issue. I see it as passio and care. He has never signalled anyone out, that's how you've twisted it. Again, the use of the word 'lambasting'is also way over the top. The money these so called professionals are paid, they should have a backbone and take the stick they have deserved, publicly or not. You're spending a lot of time spouting about Kev and Dave. So whats the point on them winding Swansea fans up? Especially Dave, he has nothing to do with the club apart from he feeds back to his mate. Such a bipolar fanbase, its cringe and pathetic. It's the same old story, a few wins it's all 'we will be promoted bla bla' a few defeats and it's 'Nagle is shit bla bla'. This Warnock is the cause of his own sacking again. It has been said on here numerous times and still nobody is willing to commit to what exactly the cause was? |
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Post by Metch on Sept 30, 2024 13:15:03 GMT 1
A huge difference in being run badly and making a couple of wrong decisions. Has Nagle made mistakes? Yes. Is he running the club badly? Not a chance. Getting relegated to league one is running the club badly. Is the club being run well or badly? What benchmarks are we using to make the judgement? League position, quality of the product, quality of the management, playing staff, income generated? Nagel fails on everyone of these. He's made so many mistakes that have led to a badly run club |
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Post by melbourneterrier on Sept 30, 2024 13:16:48 GMT 1
My mate travels up from Hampshire for every home game so I know exactly how much time & effort guys like Walton OTHT put in to support Town regularly. Not a soft under belly amongst them so when when one of the die-hards says he's had enough (or belly full of shite) it should send a strong statement........Cup draw a fortnight today & Sutton (starting to motor) away could probably see a quick exit for Town. Yet Tom Lees thinks fans are expecting too much. Shame he came out with that. I liked him before hand, lost alot of respect for him for those comments. He can jog on. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Sept 30, 2024 13:27:31 GMT 1
Please can you share where Nagle has been running the club badly? I'm not trying to be facetious when I say this, but imagine Cardiff were taken over in a few months and the previous administration brought in Neil Warnock to save them from relegation. The new administration kept Warnock, didn't back him in the transfer window, fell out with him publicly and then sacked him for a defensive manager. Despite bad results, the owner publicly backed him, then slated him on social media and ended up sacking him toward the end of the window. The owner then waited a month or so to name a successor, who took the team down and openly criticised the playing staff. Over the summer the owner issues a rallying cry to fans and targets an immediate return to the Championship. The results of the transfer window don't match his claims. Then he goes on Twitter and repeats the same mistake, this time lambasting a team made up of young players. Oh and him and his sidekick spend a lot of time winding up Swansea fans on Twitter and bragging about a 1-1 draw. I think 99/100 people would aye, "Bloody hell that Cardiff owner's a nutter, he's dragging the club through the mud" Bingo |
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Post by Sio on Sept 30, 2024 13:30:00 GMT 1
We currently sit 10th in League One. No matter what defence you make for Nagle, in his first season owning the club we were relegated on his watch. That happened because the club was and still is being run badly. A huge difference in being run badly and making a couple of wrong decisions. Has Nagle made mistakes? Yes. Is he running the club badly? Not a chance.I understand the arguments you're putting forward - and completely agree that where we are is an accumulation of Hoyle, a bit of Phil etc - but to counter this, do you think he's running the club well? I think given where we find ourselves, it's almost impossible to say he is. It's not like he hasn't had the chance to correct the position we find ourselves in, and numerous decisions made by him and his team have escalated our downfall. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 30, 2024 13:37:05 GMT 1
We currently sit 10th in League One. No matter what defence you make for Nagle, in his first season owning the club we were relegated on his watch. That happened because the club was and still is being run badly. A huge difference in being run badly and making a couple of wrong decisions. Has Nagle made mistakes? Yes. Is he running the club badly? Not a chance. Sorry but he is running the club badly. The biggest part of our revenue comes from the pitch. If we continue down the same path as he is taking us on… ie nowhere, then next season the season cards will be down Thus creating less income. So please tell me how that isnt running the club badly ? |
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Post by waggers on Sept 30, 2024 13:42:57 GMT 1
Doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters is whether thr club is run well or poorly and for years we've been the latter. Nagle has run the club badly and we have been relegated. As long as he continues to do run things badly, we'll struggle. If he runs the club OK we may scrape up through the play offs at some point. If he somehow manages to do a complete U-turn and starts running is with a level of competency, Championship guaranteed and an outside chance of the playoffs to the Premier League await. Genuine question, how is the club being run badly? Being relegated is a consequence but a consequence of what? What do you think are the actions by KN that have led to us being where we are? Let's do a root cause analysis because it's easy to say x is shit or y is shit but unless you actually know the facts then it's all hyperbole Nagle has had extremely poor judgement and hired terrible decision makers in his short time here. He had a chance to clear the decks this summer but didn't. I don't dislike the bloke but I have no confidence in his ability to run a club in the English game. If he admits this, brings in a bloke who does and leaves all the decisions to a competent team we might have a chance in the future. This season is mid table. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 30, 2024 13:46:53 GMT 1
My mate travels up from Hampshire for every home game so I know exactly how much time & effort guys like Walton OTHT put in to support Town regularly. Not a soft under belly amongst them so when when one of the die-hards says he's had enough (or belly full of shite) it should send a strong statement........Cup draw a fortnight today & Sutton (starting to motor) away could probably see a quick exit for Town. Thanks for the comments, and thanks also to dugnet. Yes, home games do require more time, effort and expense for me, but it’s the way it is. I am a lifelong Town fan and that won’t ever change. However, I was 70 only 11 days ago, my mum will be 101 in 6 weeks and my sister and her family as well as my mum are in Birstall. I’m dreading the time when I know I’ll no longer be able to get back up there, but hopefully it’s a long way off yet. I said I’d had enough for now. I’ll be off to Orient and Wycombe,100%, and I’m definitely going to come up for the Exeter game because they are another club I’ve had connections with and I like them immensely (hello, workshyfop). I just need a quiet week at home. As for Sutton in the FA Cup….. a double-edged sword for me! I want both them and Town to do as well as possible, but if they happened to play each other I’d want Town to absolutely hammer them. All I can guarantee is that Town fans would be made very welcome but Town fans may not enjoy the facilities.Or enjoy losing the game  |
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Post by rockwall on Sept 30, 2024 13:52:38 GMT 1
Yet Tom Lees thinks fans are expecting too much. Shame he came out with that. I liked him before hand, lost alot of respect for him for those comments. He can jog on. Another comment twisted. Lees was stating that we aren't going to win every game. Doesn't mean we don't try and win every game. |
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Post by rockwall on Sept 30, 2024 13:56:43 GMT 1
A huge difference in being run badly and making a couple of wrong decisions. Has Nagle made mistakes? Yes. Is he running the club badly? Not a chance. Sorry but he is running the club badly. The biggest part of our revenue comes from the pitch. If we continue down the same path as he is taking us on… ie nowhere, then next season the season cards will be down Thus creating less income. So please tell me how that isnt running the club badly ? By eventually owning the stadium it will provide a lot more income. I am also sure that the same things were said last season and the season before that. Ticket sales actually increased. On the pitch it hasn't been great but we have played 8 games. Plenty of time yet. |
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Post by tottz on Sept 30, 2024 14:24:57 GMT 1
I'm not trying to be facetious when I say this, but imagine Cardiff were taken over in a few months and the previous administration brought in Neil Warnock to save them from relegation. The new administration kept Warnock, didn't back him in the transfer window, fell out with him publicly and then sacked him for a defensive manager. Despite bad results, the owner publicly backed him, then slated him on social media and ended up sacking him toward the end of the window. The owner then waited a month or so to name a successor, who took the team down and openly criticised the playing staff. Over the summer the owner issues a rallying cry to fans and targets an immediate return to the Championship. The results of the transfer window don't match his claims. Then he goes on Twitter and repeats the same mistake, this time lambasting a team made up of young players. Oh and him and his sidekick spend a lot of time winding up Swansea fans on Twitter and bragging about a 1-1 draw. I think 99/100 people would aye, "Bloody hell that Cardiff owner's a nutter, he's dragging the club through the mud" What utter utter bollocks. The Warnock debate has been done to desth on here, but you go behind your boss' back and see what happens. Nobody is bigger than the club and Warnock was a cause of his own sacking. Ruffels, Ward and his sons agency. The whole social media thing I really don't see the issue. I see it as passio and care. He has never signalled anyone out, that's how you've twisted it. Again, the use of the word 'lambasting'is also way over the top. The money these so called professionals are paid, they should have a backbone and take the stick they have deserved, publicly or not. You're spending a lot of time spouting about Kev and Dave. So whats the point on them winding Swansea fans up? Especially Dave, he has nothing to do with the club apart from he feeds back to his mate. Such a bipolar fanbase, its cringe and pathetic. It's the same old story, a few wins it's all 'we will be promoted bla bla' a few defeats and it's 'Nagle is shit bla bla'. I can see I'm not going to change your mind. I think he's running the club very badly indeed, you don't and I respect that. |
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