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Post by twyford on Oct 2, 2024 14:02:42 GMT 1
You’d imagine that there’s some sort of crisis meeting going on , the football equivalent of cobra. So, whilst there is still time, do they develop a plan to save our season and resurrect our promotion push? Or, do they decide to live with it, resigned to being a League 1 side for 2 seasons at least whilst avoiding relegation to Division 4? Surely it’s got to be the first option. There may well be a crisis meeting, when Kev gets up that is… Isn’t it an 8h time difference. So Nagle sees our angst after games mid afternoon (after a night game), and early morning when we play at 3PM. The 8h time difference for big pow wows is nothing new in transatlantic business, but it’s alien to football supporters who want to hear from the owner when we’re in such a poor vein of form & appear rudderless on the pitch. So it'd have been c2pm for him when the match ended and 4pm after having taken in a couple of hours of 'feedback'. Plenty of opportunity for him to have had his say before retiring for the night - maybe he has decided to rein it in a bit.
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Post by ambryboy on Oct 2, 2024 14:09:42 GMT 1
You’d imagine that there’s some sort of crisis meeting going on , the football equivalent of cobra. So, whilst there is still time, do they develop a plan to save our season and resurrect our promotion push? Or, do they decide to live with it, resigned to being a League 1 side for 2 seasons at least whilst avoiding relegation to Division 4? Surely it’s got to be the first option. There may well be a crisis meeting, when Kev gets up that is… Isn’t it an 8h time difference. So Nagle sees our angst after games mid afternoon (after a night game), and early morning when we play at 3PM. The 8h time difference for big pow wows is nothing new in transatlantic business, but it’s alien to football supporters who want to hear from the owner when we’re in such a poor vein of form & appear rudderless on the pitch. I don't particularly want to hear from the owner (especially one of Kev's ill-advised Tweets) but I would like to be assured that the current run of form has and is being discussed as a matter of priority and that an action plan is in place to reverse this slump urgently. I would hope that a few home truths are aired that stay behind closed doors.
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Post by ben1987 on Oct 2, 2024 14:43:19 GMT 1
There may well be a crisis meeting, when Kev gets up that is… Isn’t it an 8h time difference. So Nagle sees our angst after games mid afternoon (after a night game), and early morning when we play at 3PM. The 8h time difference for big pow wows is nothing new in transatlantic business, but it’s alien to football supporters who want to hear from the owner when we’re in such a poor vein of form & appear rudderless on the pitch. I don't particularly want to hear from the owner (especially one of Kev's ill-advised Tweets) but I would like to be assured that the current run of form has and is being discussed as a matter of priority and that an action plan is in place to reverse this slump urgently. I would hope that a few home truths are aired that stay behind closed doors. This is the problem with Kevin’s approach to club communications. The club has in place structured dialogue with fan groups, forums and panels. It also has a media and communications team lead by DTS who’s a seasoned experienced operator and former member of the clubs board. He also just so happens to be a fan of the club. I don’t know DTS but I would hazard a guess that he’s shaking his head every time Kevin speaks. It breaks every rule in the communication handbook. You’re accountable for everything you say and do, the approach he’s taken has now, whether deliberate or not, created a beast which will never be tamed where by you have large sections wanting him to speak when things aren’t going well and large sections that don’t. He will never win. What he should have done and be doing now is respecting the fact he pays a communications team to manage the clubs communications and do it in a structured and controlled way. This scatter gun care free approach is harming the club no end and it’s putting huge pressure on himself and those that work at the club.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Oct 2, 2024 14:57:17 GMT 1
I don't particularly want to hear from the owner (especially one of Kev's ill-advised Tweets) but I would like to be assured that the current run of form has and is being discussed as a matter of priority and that an action plan is in place to reverse this slump urgently. I would hope that a few home truths are aired that stay behind closed doors. This is the problem with Kevin’s approach to club communications. The club has in place structured dialogue with fan groups, forums and panels. It also has a media and communications team lead by DTS who’s a seasoned experienced operator and former member of the clubs board. He also just so happens to be a fan of the club. I don’t know DTS but I would hazard a guess that he’s shaking his head every time Kevin speaks. It breaks every rule in the communication handbook. You’re accountable for everything you say and do, the approach he’s taken has now, whether deliberate or not, created a beast which will never be tamed where by you have large sections wanting him to speak when things aren’t going well and large sections that don’t. He will never win. What he should have done and be doing now is respecting the fact he pays a communications team to manage the clubs communications and do it in a structured and controlled way. This scatter gun care free approach is harming the club no end and it’s putting huge pressure on himself and those that work at the club. Still miss a Sean Jarvis type character. Bit of a go between
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Post by bells ringing :) on Oct 2, 2024 15:06:06 GMT 1
Seemingly Mr Nagle is gullible or something along these lines. To have to re interview your top two guys, says you did think they had failed, yet to then re employ them. It does smack of being a little naive. Further to this due to his naviety , those he has employed are literally taking the mick out of him . It seems they are doing everything for the benfit of themselves and not the club. The last 18 months would not have being allowed at any other club, these two would have being shown the door. Whoever is giving Nagle advice is so wrong and should be pushed aside it seems.
Nagle i will offer my services for FREE to advice you on things if you like, because i can gaurntee i can't do any worse than those currently doing so.
Nagle if you have the billions people have spoke about and the ambition you have, then things have to change. If your stated ambition is to happen, the people currently in all aspects of the club will not get you there, but will cost you a lot of money though.
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Post by dm on Oct 2, 2024 16:05:22 GMT 1
The state of play as I see it: Defence: no pace, no passing ability so stop playing out from the back. Not fit for purpose Midfield: Little presence, defensive side is dreadful, attacking side not much better. Not fit for purpose Attack: Barely existent. We haven't had a striker anything like suitable for the division we are or were in since Wells. We're on our 3rd owner since this time. Not fit for purpose. Management: Difficult to tell if fit for purpose due to the above. Haven't seen anything to suggest it's all down to the players so far. DoF: With everything above, if DoF is to blame for any of that, questions need to be asked. Medical team: goes on with our players and the number of injuries and length of injuries? We're in freefall in league one and other than Corberan's almost season, we're in danger of continuing this plummet down the overall pyramid. Is there another club that would seemingly allow this in such a short period of time (whilst only thinking changing manager could help?)
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 2, 2024 18:54:20 GMT 1
Can't wait for the next diary 🫤
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Post by harri54 on Oct 2, 2024 19:16:39 GMT 1
I don't particularly want to hear from the owner (especially one of Kev's ill-advised Tweets) but I would like to be assured that the current run of form has and is being discussed as a matter of priority and that an action plan is in place to reverse this slump urgently. I would hope that a few home truths are aired that stay behind closed doors. This is the problem with Kevin’s approach to club communications. The club has in place structured dialogue with fan groups, forums and panels. It also has a media and communications team lead by DTS who’s a seasoned experienced operator and former member of the clubs board. He also just so happens to be a fan of the club. I don’t know DTS but I would hazard a guess that he’s shaking his head every time Kevin speaks. It breaks every rule in the communication handbook. You’re accountable for everything you say and do, the approach he’s taken has now, whether deliberate or not, created a beast which will never be tamed where by you have large sections wanting him to speak when things aren’t going well and large sections that don’t. He will never win. What he should have done and be doing now is respecting the fact he pays a communications team to manage the clubs communications and do it in a structured and controlled way. This scatter gun care free approach is harming the club no end and it’s putting huge pressure on himself and those that work at the club. Or rephrased, this is the problem with fan's demands for open communications, digging at every speculation whether credible or not. You get an open communicator and it's either not right or not happening, rarely is just appreciated as one would have thought when it was being demanded!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 2, 2024 20:57:42 GMT 1
This is the problem with Kevin’s approach to club communications. The club has in place structured dialogue with fan groups, forums and panels. It also has a media and communications team lead by DTS who’s a seasoned experienced operator and former member of the clubs board. He also just so happens to be a fan of the club. I don’t know DTS but I would hazard a guess that he’s shaking his head every time Kevin speaks. It breaks every rule in the communication handbook. You’re accountable for everything you say and do, the approach he’s taken has now, whether deliberate or not, created a beast which will never be tamed where by you have large sections wanting him to speak when things aren’t going well and large sections that don’t. He will never win. What he should have done and be doing now is respecting the fact he pays a communications team to manage the clubs communications and do it in a structured and controlled way. This scatter gun care free approach is harming the club no end and it’s putting huge pressure on himself and those that work at the club. Or rephrased, this is the problem with fan's demands for open communications, digging at every speculation whether credible or not. You get an open communicator and it's either not right or not happening, rarely is just appreciated as one would have thought when it was being demanded! So the problem is the fans? Glad we cleared that one up!
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Post by harri54 on Oct 3, 2024 0:20:21 GMT 1
Or rephrased, this is the problem with fan's demands for open communications, digging at every speculation whether credible or not. You get an open communicator and it's either not right or not happening, rarely is just appreciated as one would have thought when it was being demanded! So the problem is the fans? Glad we cleared that one up! What problem is the fans? Can we clear that one up, syndrome!
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Post by desertstorm on Oct 3, 2024 5:36:08 GMT 1
I think KN is getting a rough ride here.
Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he’s got everything right, but who does ?!
I think we need to remember what he has done, and continues to do behind the scenes for the club. Including, but not limited to serious investment in the infrastructure of the club. Whilst everything isn’t rosey on the field, the club is being set up for long term success, brick by brick.
He has been criticised for his communication from some quarters, criticised because he hasn’t come out and said anything, or people are calling him out to make a statement.
Let’s apply a bit of rationale here. As an entrepreneur, you do not build your portfolio by accident. Time, effort and perseverance, along with the ability to make difficult decisions are all part of the building blocks of success.
I get it, the on field activity’s are ‘uncomfortable’ at best at the moment. And we’ll all have our own ideas to why that is. The position we find ourselves in as a club doesn’t happen overnight, it’s through poor decisions prior to KN time, a lack of investment in club infrastructure and playing squad. Quite frankly, KN has come in and is picking up the pieces.
Now, it is evident that changes are required. I’m not insinuating at this time that the problem is MD. When he came in, the system he would play would have been discussed, and the recruitment should have been tailored to that system. There’s certainly work to be done in terms of player movements, both in and out. It’s my opinion that KN is neither stupid, or fooled. I believe he’s somewhat of a calculated and considered operator.
He will know in his own mind what needs to happen and where changes are required within the day-to-day of the club. I can’t even suggest we are patient whilst he negotiates his way through the mess considering the absolute mess that supporters have had to digest over the previous season/s . However, what I can say, from my own understanding and perspective, KN is not the problem and is part of our long-term solution.
I believe things have to, and will get better!
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Oct 3, 2024 7:08:10 GMT 1
Agree wth this and remain hopeful. But Cartwright has to go sharpish for Town to progress.
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 3, 2024 7:11:55 GMT 1
The real villains are whoever has been advising him. They lied to him last year that our players were good enough. Let’s not forget we went into the season with a strikeforce of Harratt, Hudlin and Ward. In the Championship! This season we went into the season with a forward line of the injury-prone Ward, Healey, Radulovic (hopeless, soft as shit) and an untried youngster Marshall. For more than the extra money it would’ve cost to get May, we gave Ladapo a two-year deal (to be fair, at least he has scored goals at this level). Anyway, the problem is recruitment or lack of recruitment.
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 3, 2024 7:58:04 GMT 1
The real villains are whoever has been advising him. They lied to him last year that our players were good enough. Let’s not forget we went into the season with a strikeforce of Harratt, Hudlin and Ward. In the Championship! This season we went into the season with a forward line of the injury-prone Ward, Healey, Radulovic (hopeless, soft as shit) and an untried youngster Marshall. For more than the extra money it would’ve cost to get May, we gave Ladapo a two-year deal (to be fair, at least he has scored goals at this level). Anyway, the problem is recruitment or lack of recruitment. This. And we went into what should have been considered our biggest game of the season with a back line of Spencer, Lees and Pearson. It wasn't out biggest game because they are now miles from us. The recruitment has been nothing sort of pathetic and I don't trust any of them going forward. The Ladapo signing for 2 years has done me completely, he looks like a fan that's won a competition to play a game.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Oct 3, 2024 8:01:23 GMT 1
I don't particularly want to hear from the owner (especially one of Kev's ill-advised Tweets) but I would like to be assured that the current run of form has and is being discussed as a matter of priority and that an action plan is in place to reverse this slump urgently. I would hope that a few home truths are aired that stay behind closed doors. This is the problem with Kevin’s approach to club communications. The club has in place structured dialogue with fan groups, forums and panels. It also has a media and communications team lead by DTS who’s a seasoned experienced operator and former member of the clubs board. He also just so happens to be a fan of the club. I don’t know DTS but I would hazard a guess that he’s shaking his head every time Kevin speaks. It breaks every rule in the communication handbook. You’re accountable for everything you say and do, the approach he’s taken has now, whether deliberate or not, created a beast which will never be tamed where by you have large sections wanting him to speak when things aren’t going well and large sections that don’t. He will never win. What he should have done and be doing now is respecting the fact he pays a communications team to manage the clubs communications and do it in a structured and controlled way. This scatter gun care free approach is harming the club no end and it’s putting huge pressure on himself and those that work at the club. I said this exact thing months ago and was shot down on here for it. No other clubs I am aware of have the same approach, I wonder why.. Absolutely no need for the twitter posts, diary’s etc when you have paid communications team who are professionals at it. All it does is make us look tinpot and more importantly, opens Nagle up for a battering every time something doesn’t happen that he/his side kick says will do. It would appear however that the pair of them have learnt their lesson now. One can hope anyway.
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Post by royrace on Oct 3, 2024 9:53:20 GMT 1
This is the problem with Kevin’s approach to club communications. The club has in place structured dialogue with fan groups, forums and panels. It also has a media and communications team lead by DTS who’s a seasoned experienced operator and former member of the clubs board. He also just so happens to be a fan of the club. I don’t know DTS but I would hazard a guess that he’s shaking his head every time Kevin speaks. It breaks every rule in the communication handbook. You’re accountable for everything you say and do, the approach he’s taken has now, whether deliberate or not, created a beast which will never be tamed where by you have large sections wanting him to speak when things aren’t going well and large sections that don’t. He will never win. What he should have done and be doing now is respecting the fact he pays a communications team to manage the clubs communications and do it in a structured and controlled way. This scatter gun care free approach is harming the club no end and it’s putting huge pressure on himself and those that work at the club. I said this exact thing months ago and was shot down on here for it. No other clubs I am aware of have the same approach, I wonder why.. Absolutely no need for the twitter posts, diary’s etc when you have paid communications team who are professionals at it. All it does is make us look tinpot and more importantly, opens Nagle up for a battering every time something doesn’t happen that he/his side kick says will do. It would appear however that the pair of them have learnt their lesson now. One can hope anyway. Shouldn't make any difference whatsoever to the footballing side. It's also impossible for it to be mixed messaging since we hear absolutely nothing from the CEO, DoF, marketing team etc. The chairman's diaries and the odd tweet are the least of our problems. Had we not had Comms from the chairman I think we'd be even more worried about his motives and plan for for future etc than we are now. Very much hoping he is taking some qualified advice in the background with a view to salvaging the season and future league standing.
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 3, 2024 10:01:54 GMT 1
You wouldn’t need to be Domenic Nostredamus to predict that promoting the “global brand” of a football club in the bottom half of League 1 is going to be utterly futile.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 3, 2024 10:13:30 GMT 1
You wouldn’t need to be Domenic Nostredamus to predict that promoting the “global brand” of a football club in the bottom half of League 1 is going to be utterly futile. Very true. And why it’s essential we rescue this season.
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Post by royrace on Oct 3, 2024 10:16:01 GMT 1
You wouldn’t need to be Domenic Nostredamus to predict that promoting the “global brand” of a football club in the bottom half of League 1 is going to be utterly futile. Yeah no stand out sponsors so far, doesn't seem any different on the face of it to when Kevin took over. I might be wrong though. Hoping the debranding of the stadium means there's something in the offing. "Global brand" always seemed a very silly title though even when we were a championship with aspirations.
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Post by ben1987 on Oct 3, 2024 10:28:39 GMT 1
This is the problem with Kevin’s approach to club communications. The club has in place structured dialogue with fan groups, forums and panels. It also has a media and communications team lead by DTS who’s a seasoned experienced operator and former member of the clubs board. He also just so happens to be a fan of the club. I don’t know DTS but I would hazard a guess that he’s shaking his head every time Kevin speaks. It breaks every rule in the communication handbook. You’re accountable for everything you say and do, the approach he’s taken has now, whether deliberate or not, created a beast which will never be tamed where by you have large sections wanting him to speak when things aren’t going well and large sections that don’t. He will never win. What he should have done and be doing now is respecting the fact he pays a communications team to manage the clubs communications and do it in a structured and controlled way. This scatter gun care free approach is harming the club no end and it’s putting huge pressure on himself and those that work at the club. Or rephrased, this is the problem with fan's demands for open communications, digging at every speculation whether credible or not. You get an open communicator and it's either not right or not happening, rarely is just appreciated as one would have thought when it was being demanded! No, I’m sorry but I’m not having that. No fan demanded what the style, volume or type of communication from Nagle. He chose to take this approach, he hasn’t a leg to stand on if he chooses to complain about fans direct messaging him on socials or fans criticism of the things he says. He’s created a monster, which as I’ve said above he will never tame by taking this Wild West approach. You have professionals at the club whose expertise is club communications - use them. Even having your mate Dave coming on here asking fans for their questions is such a terrible way to approach communications. Its not how it should be done, this is a fan forum and debates are here to be had but you have current structures in place through forums, Q&A’s and fan groups where conversations can be had. This public approach to unstructured discussion is chaos and it serves no good. No fans that I’ve seen have demanded anything but an upturn in results which is fair given since he’s taken over, we’ve been relegated and won 13 league games in 55. He’s created the demand, it’s not on the fans and the blame firmly rests with Kevin Nagle and Carmichael Dave who have shown a complete disrespect to their communications department, club staff and fans for thinking that this approach would ever conceivably work. And for what it’s worth, concerns were raised about this communications approach at the ATT and on here when fans like myself questioned it and like others, got knocked back. We had the chairman calling out Pozza publicly on social media after Pozza aired his concerns which funnily enough, were not just legitimate points but also were correct and later proven when we got relegated. There was no demand from Pozza for Kevin to speak, Kevin decided himself to take this approach.
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Post by Ladaphosen on Oct 3, 2024 10:45:40 GMT 1
You wouldn’t need to be Domenic Nostredamus to predict that promoting the “global brand” of a football club in the bottom half of League 1 is going to be utterly futile. Yeah no stand out sponsors so far, doesn't seem any different on the face of it to when Kevin took over. I might be wrong though. Hoping the debranding of the stadium means there's something in the offing. "Global brand" always seemed a very silly title though even when we were a championship with aspirations. I was hoping that when KN came in he would bring with him bigger commercial opportunities for the club. Nothing to suggest this is the case. Its the key to growth, look at Wrexham, look at Birmingham brining Delta on board.
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Post by Tango on Oct 3, 2024 10:58:56 GMT 1
Yeah no stand out sponsors so far, doesn't seem any different on the face of it to when Kevin took over. I might be wrong though. Hoping the debranding of the stadium means there's something in the offing. "Global brand" always seemed a very silly title though even when we were a championship with aspirations. I was hoping that when KN came in he would bring with him bigger commercial opportunities for the club. Nothing to suggest this is the case. Its the key to growth, look at Wrexham, look at Birmingham brining Delta on board. We've been under existing contracts with Umbro and Utilita since before KN arrived. And any stadium sponsorship (& corporate improvements bringing in more revenue) will not happen until full ownership is agreed. Plus the redevelopment of the surrounding areas by the stadium. So that's four key revenue streams that could improve us (that Wrexham and Birmingham have taken advantage of) that we are not yet able to.
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Post by Ladaphosen on Oct 3, 2024 11:07:29 GMT 1
I was hoping that when KN came in he would bring with him bigger commercial opportunities for the club. Nothing to suggest this is the case. Its the key to growth, look at Wrexham, look at Birmingham brining Delta on board. We've been under existing contracts with Umbro and Utilita since before KN arrived. And any stadium sponsorship (& corporate improvements bringing in more revenue) will not happen until full ownership is agreed.
Plus the redevelopment of the surrounding areas by the stadium. So that's four key revenue streams that could improve us (that Wrexham and Birmingham have taken advantage of) that we are not yet able to. I can see why this is a sticking point, but we are 18 months in I would have expected more movement on the commercial side tbh, always ways around these things if your team is good enough... Speaking of the stadium deal, are we any closer than the 'weeks away' we were in June? - huddersfieldhub.co.uk/huddersfield-town-owner-kevin-nagle-says-he-is-close-to-securing-a-deal-for-control-of-the-john-smiths-stadium/
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 3, 2024 11:24:36 GMT 1
When Dean first took over he poured significant investment into the team, recognising that the best way to win the fans over is the product on the pitch. The better standard of player and better quality of football on offer sparked a new era for us.
I just feel like Kev has missed a trick and looked to do things the other way around. The stadium needed investment as did many of the backroom stuff but it appears to have come at the expense of real investment into the side.
We can start a clean slate and a new era but it is absolutely imperative that significant investment is placed in the playing staff. It will hit him in the pocket but hopefully in the long run it will pay for itself. A successful winning culture will bring in the sponsors.
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Post by royrace on Oct 3, 2024 11:30:59 GMT 1
When Dean first took over he poured significant investment into the team, recognising that the best way to win the fans over is the product on the pitch. The better standard of player and better quality of football on offer sparked a new era for us. I just feel like Kev has missed a trick and looked to do things the other way around. The stadium needed investment as did many of the backroom stuff but it appears to have come at the expense of real investment into the side. We can start a clean slate and a new era but it is absolutely imperative that significant investment is placed in the playing staff. It will hit him in the pocket but hopefully in the long run it will pay for itself. A successful winning culture will bring in the sponsors. Good point, he's doing what you'd do in any other business but football is nothing like any other business. It also leads me to question motive somewhat and leaves me hoping the stadium complex isn't his main motivation. A L1 or 2 team is a lot cheaper to run of course and with decent infrastructure you'd actually stand a chance of not losing millions. Not possible any higher up the leagues unless you're man utd.
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Post by Dan on Oct 3, 2024 11:43:40 GMT 1
When Dean first took over he poured significant investment into the team, recognising that the best way to win the fans over is the product on the pitch. The better standard of player and better quality of football on offer sparked a new era for us. I just feel like Kev has missed a trick and looked to do things the other way around. The stadium needed investment as did many of the backroom stuff but it appears to have come at the expense of real investment into the side. We can start a clean slate and a new era but it is absolutely imperative that significant investment is placed in the playing staff. It will hit him in the pocket but hopefully in the long run it will pay for itself. A successful winning culture will bring in the sponsors. Agree that the product on the pitch is more important than anything else. However, Kevin spent around £3.5-£4m on players just in the January transfer window. We never spent that much on players in any transfer window under Dean Hoyle outside of the Premier League seasons. Whether we've got any value out of that £4 million is a different debate!
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 3, 2024 11:46:40 GMT 1
When Dean first took over he poured significant investment into the team, recognising that the best way to win the fans over is the product on the pitch. The better standard of player and better quality of football on offer sparked a new era for us. I just feel like Kev has missed a trick and looked to do things the other way around. The stadium needed investment as did many of the backroom stuff but it appears to have come at the expense of real investment into the side. We can start a clean slate and a new era but it is absolutely imperative that significant investment is placed in the playing staff. It will hit him in the pocket but hopefully in the long run it will pay for itself. A successful winning culture will bring in the sponsors. Good point, he's doing what you'd do in any other business but football is nothing like any other business. It also leads me to question motive somewhat and leaves me hoping the stadium complex isn't his main motivation. A L1 or 2 team is a lot cheaper to run of course and with decent infrastructure you'd actually stand a chance of not losing millions. Not possible any higher up the leagues unless you're man utd. I don't think that's his main motivation at all. I think he genuinely wants to make this club prosper. I question the appointments he has made to make key decisions on his behalf, however I don't question his intent. He wants to make the club self sufficient and that's obvious through our transfer dealing so far, the reopening of the academy and the investment in club infrastructure. That's a noble cause however practically impossible in football at any level. He will have more of a chance of achieving his ambition however with greater focus and investment on the playing side. Fans make football and with the best will in the world I can't cheer a paint job in the same way I can seeing a successful football team.
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Post by harri54 on Oct 3, 2024 11:56:36 GMT 1
This is the problem with Kevin’s approach to club communications. The club has in place structured dialogue with fan groups, forums and panels. It also has a media and communications team lead by DTS who’s a seasoned experienced operator and former member of the clubs board. He also just so happens to be a fan of the club. I don’t know DTS but I would hazard a guess that he’s shaking his head every time Kevin speaks. It breaks every rule in the communication handbook. You’re accountable for everything you say and do, the approach he’s taken has now, whether deliberate or not, created a beast which will never be tamed where by you have large sections wanting him to speak when things aren’t going well and large sections that don’t. He will never win. What he should have done and be doing now is respecting the fact he pays a communications team to manage the clubs communications and do it in a structured and controlled way. This scatter gun care free approach is harming the club no end and it’s putting huge pressure on himself and those that work at the club. I said this exact thing months ago and was shot down on here for it. No other clubs I am aware of have the same approach, I wonder why.. Absolutely no need for the twitter posts, diary’s etc when you have paid communications team who are professionals at it. All it does is make us look tinpot and more importantly, opens Nagle up for a battering every time something doesn’t happen that he/his side kick says will do. It would appear however that the pair of them have learnt their lesson now. One can hope anyway. I like KNs diaries & he can say what he wants to wankers on twitter for me, if he shares his opinion on any match it just shows he cares and might talk more sense (despite only knowing US soccer) than some on here!
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Post by Sio on Oct 3, 2024 12:07:15 GMT 1
I said this exact thing months ago and was shot down on here for it. No other clubs I am aware of have the same approach, I wonder why.. Absolutely no need for the twitter posts, diary’s etc when you have paid communications team who are professionals at it. All it does is make us look tinpot and more importantly, opens Nagle up for a battering every time something doesn’t happen that he/his side kick says will do. It would appear however that the pair of them have learnt their lesson now. One can hope anyway. I like KNs diaries & he can say what he wants to wankers on twitter for me, if he shares his opinion on any match it just shows he cares and might talk more sense (despite only knowing US soccer) than some on here! So you think he should be spouting off to well-respected fans such as Pozza for questioning whether we have made the right decisions in the managerial and transfer market? Despite being proved correct time and time again? You honestly think that should be the approach of a chairman trying to fix a failing club? To me that just strengthens the view that we're an incoherent mess from top to bottom.
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 3, 2024 12:08:32 GMT 1
I said this exact thing months ago and was shot down on here for it. No other clubs I am aware of have the same approach, I wonder why.. Absolutely no need for the twitter posts, diary’s etc when you have paid communications team who are professionals at it. All it does is make us look tinpot and more importantly, opens Nagle up for a battering every time something doesn’t happen that he/his side kick says will do. It would appear however that the pair of them have learnt their lesson now. One can hope anyway. I like KNs diaries & he can say what he wants to wankers on twitter for me, if he shares his opinion on any match it just shows he cares and might talk more sense (despite only knowing US soccer) than some on here! Showing his opinion on our last successful manager under his watch didn't end well did it? Now look at us. I don't think KN is a bad owner, I don't think he's a bad person. I fully believe he is committed to getting us where we need to be, but to do that he's going to need to change his backroom staff, and fast.
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