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Post by boooothy on Oct 29, 2023 9:07:24 GMT 1
Only at Huddersfield Town can you be sat pretty comfortably in the Championship heading for a stabilising average season and then decide we fancy a relegation battle.
Did anyone think we were getting relegated 7 weeks or whatever it was ago? Does anyone now think this squad has any chance of earning 50 points? It’s a Marcus Stewart sized fuck up of self implosion
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Post by boooothy on Oct 29, 2023 9:11:37 GMT 1
Haven't us fans suffered enough from public embarrassment over the last few years? Premier league club employing a nobody in a public showing of accepting relegation in January! Wasted all the budget on players who didn't even play for us and left for next to nothing. Taken over by a man with no money part 1. Paddy Power stunt. Relegation battle in first season back in champ. 7-0 on TV at Norwich. Screwed over by VAR in the play off final Sell our best 2 players in a combined deal for not much to the beneficiaries of that play off final. Lose manager to the same beneficiaries. Employing not 1 but 2 frauds as manager and in yet ANOTHER relegation battle. 2nd one of those frauds is a public embarrassment. Old owner has to step in before we go bust because he sold to the man who was skint in the first place. Taken over by 'American Billionaire' who then facilitates our worst transfer window in years. Sacks the only good thing about the club in Warnock. Employs fraud number 3. Battered without a whimper at our biggest rivals. Warnock about to take over and probably save one of our relegation rivals. Ive definitely missed some other stuff. When will this shitshow end? I liked the Paddy Power shirt thing. I’ve said it before and got abuse, if ever a club deserved to be relegated, it’s us. |
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Post by dugnet on Oct 29, 2023 9:11:53 GMT 1
At some point someone has to get a grip and accept the club is not currently going in the right direction.
For all the words, which I think are well intentioned, there is a lot to do.
NW managed to turn the mindset round to an extent players had confidence, they trusted what they were being asked to do and they managed to get results. This squad is neither blessed with great quality or is sufficiently deep but NW got them believing the sum of the parts could achieve.
The immediate problem with DM is that the players, after Ipswich, look lost, confused and now lack confidence. If you accept the deficiencies in the squad then that is not a good recipe for any success. I am afraid that DM has to take responsibility, even allowing for injuries. At the moment the basics of tactics, team spirit and shape aren't evident. Sadly, because I would much prefer to be seeing the positives in DM, this doesn't bode well for the future.
The real issue though is those in charge, and the buck does stop with Kev, need to accept the issues in the 1st team and stop merely hoping things will come good. At best NW would have kept us in Championship, but that is the realistic limit of the resources we have. Make a change and see the team lose the belief they had and the outcome looks pretty dire. That's not melodramatic, that's the reality.
We cannot continue with platitudes and condescending social media posts. Something needs to change fundamentally, noting the seeds of this field of weeds was sown before Mr Nagle arrived, and we need some leadership.
Right now I cannot see an immediate way forward but glibly hoping that things will come right as the stand is akin to believing in the man in the moon and fairies at the bottom of the garden.
We, or more accurately Mr Nagle and team, have put ourselves in a very tough spot. We have some tough fixtures, injuries, a lack of confidence, a manager struggling to convince and a fanbase at the end of their tether with what they are having to witness. Circumstances may make things worse too. If NW takes another job, which would make a mockery of the "he was going anyway" argument, the pressure builds on the new decision makers at the club.
Immediately a decision has to be taken on DM. I don't have any ill will towards him but what he is offering up on the pitch is simply not good enough. It is disjointed, lacks cohesion and is terrible to watch. How long do you give him. I note that people have compared to the early days of Coberan but he started OK, then lost the plot but turned things round (noting he had considerably more talent available to him). If DM doesn't improve soon, and I am worried he won't, we will be relegated.
As for relegation perhaps we have been dodging this bullet since returning to the Championship. If it were to happen my immediate thought would be; "can Mr Nagle and team turn this round". My answer today would be; I think Mr Nagle has good intentions but I don't think he, or his delegates, have grasped the size of the problem or, more pertinently perhaps, considered the cost. I go back to what I said earlier there is a lot to do. This fanciful idea that we can compete to be in the Premier League in 3 years is living in cloud cuckoo land if things don't change significantly.
I fear that we will plough on. I also fear that we will hear some eloquent positive messages but see no tangible actions. Do that and we are returning to League One. My big concern is that if that happens I wouldn't have much faith that we could regroup easily.
My frustration, and I have been consistent over a number of years, is that not enough people believe in the potential of HTAFC and are prepared accept the "punching above our weight" narrative. I really hope Mr Nagle sees beyond that but if he does he has to accept investment, and sensible investment, is needed. That's not just money but good, capable and enthusiastic people who will tell him the truth and also want to see HTAFC succeed. At the moment I fear, as we have in the past, we have people who are merely enthusiastic about picking up a wage. To be fair to DM I think he does care, I'm just far from convinced he's capable enough to deliver what's required.
My final message to Mr Nagle would be this. "The mood and discontent is not as a result of losing to our closest rivals it is born of frustration over a long period of time. NW showed you a glimpse of the passion of the fans and the potential of the club against Sheffield United earlier this year. It's down to you to accept the responsibility to take this club forward and accept the, real, challenge in front of you"
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Oct 29, 2023 9:14:53 GMT 1
Only at Huddersfield Town can you be sat pretty comfortably in the Championship heading for a stabilising average season and then decide we fancy a relegation battle. Did anyone think we were getting relegated 7 weeks or whatever it was ago? Does anyone now think this squad has any chance of earning 50 points? It’s a Marcus Stewart sized fuck up of self explosion. Fully agree NW would have kept us up. Made a few quid in increasing the value of players like Rudoni, koroma and Thomas and provided a platform to change ticket prices etc if that’s something KN has in mind Under DM all the players looked to have regressed (lost value), we look likely to be relegated and the mood is the stands is awful - if we go down and they hope to increase prices it would result in huge losses of season ticket holders As said it’s a Marcus Stewart level of fuck up |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 29, 2023 9:18:23 GMT 1
We have one hope this season, that Sheff Wed, Rotherham and QPR don’t get 40 points.
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Post by scutcher on Oct 29, 2023 9:26:17 GMT 1
Getting to 40 points for us us will be like doing one of those sponsored cycle rides without a cycle!
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Post by iangreaves on Oct 29, 2023 9:29:03 GMT 1
We have one hope this season, that Sheff Wed, Rotherham and QPR don’t get 40 points. Warnock’s on his way to QPR so they’ll be fine. |
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Post by loumacari on Oct 29, 2023 9:30:03 GMT 1
We have one hope this season, that Sheff Wed, Rotherham and QPR don’t get 40 points. Warnock’s on his way to QPR so they’ll be fine. We’re done. No chance we stay up from here. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 29, 2023 9:32:50 GMT 1
Only at Huddersfield Town can you be sat pretty comfortably in the Championship heading for a stabilising average season and then decide we fancy a relegation battle. Did anyone think we were getting relegated 7 weeks or whatever it was ago? Does anyone now think this squad has any chance of earning 50 points? It’s a Marcus Stewart sized fuck up of self implosion I think this is way beyond the "Marcus Stewart" decision. Completely self inflicted damage. |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 29, 2023 9:40:38 GMT 1
All Kevs mates that came on here pretending to be normal Town fans seem to have disappeared. Was it Just a guy and Castle Hill Terrier ?
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 29, 2023 9:42:22 GMT 1
All Kevs mates that came on here pretending to be normal Town fans seem to have disappeared. Was it Just a guy and Castle Hill Terrier ? What about the ones abusing us? |
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Post by joek on Oct 29, 2023 9:49:41 GMT 1
At some point someone has to get a grip and accept the club is not currently going in the right direction. For all the words, which I think are well intentioned, there is a lot to do. NW managed to turn the mindset round to an extent players had confidence, they trusted what they were being asked to do and they managed to get results. This squad is neither blessed with great quality or is sufficiently deep but NW got them believing the sum of the parts could achieve. The immediate problem with DM is that the players, after Ipswich, look lost, confused and now lack confidence. If you accept the deficiencies in the squad then that is not a good recipe for any success. I am afraid that DM has to take responsibility, even allowing for injuries. At the moment the basics of tactics, team spirit and shape aren't evident. Sadly, because I would much prefer to be seeing the positives in DM, this doesn't bode well for the future. The real issue though is those in charge, and the buck does stop with Kev, need to accept the issues in the 1st team and stop merely hoping things will come good. At best NW would have kept us in Championship, but that is the realistic limit of the resources we have. Make a change and see the team lose the belief they had and the outcome looks pretty dire. That's not melodramatic, that's the reality. We cannot continue with platitudes and condescending social media posts. Something needs to change fundamentally, noting the seeds of this field of weeds was sown before Mr Nagle arrived, and we need some leadership. Right now I cannot see an immediate way forward but glibly hoping that things will come right as the stand is akin to believing in the man in the moon and fairies at the bottom of the garden. We, or more accurately Mr Nagle and team, have put ourselves in a very tough spot. We have some tough fixtures, injuries, a lack of confidence, a manager struggling to convince and a fanbase at the end of their tether with what they are having to witness. Circumstances may make things worse too. If NW takes another job, which would make a mockery of the "he was going anyway" argument, the pressure builds on the new decision makers at the club. Immediately a decision has to be taken on DM. I don't have any ill will towards him but what he is offering up on the pitch is simply not good enough. It is disjointed, lacks cohesion and is terrible to watch. How long do you give him. I note that people have compared to the early days of Coberan but he started OK, then lost the plot but turned things round (noting he had considerably more talent available to him). If DM doesn't improve soon, and I am worried he won't, we will be relegated. As for relegation perhaps we have been dodging this bullet since returning to the Championship. If it were to happen my immediate thought would be; "can Mr Nagle and team turn this round". My answer today would be; I think Mr Nagle has good intentions but I don't think he, or his delegates, have grasped the size of the problem or, more pertinently perhaps, considered the cost. I go back to what I said earlier there is a lot to do. This fanciful idea that we can compete to be in the Premier League in 3 years is living in cloud cuckoo land if things don't change significantly. I fear that we will plough on. I also fear that we will hear some eloquent positive messages but see no tangible actions. Do that and we are returning to League One. My big concern is that if that happens I wouldn't have much faith that we could regroup easily. My frustration, and I have been consistent over a number of years, is that not enough people believe in the potential of HTAFC and are prepared accept the "punching above our weight" narrative. I really hope Mr Nagle sees beyond that but if he does he has to accept investment, and sensible investment, is needed. That's not just money but good, capable and enthusiastic people who will tell him the truth and also want to see HTAFC succeed. At the moment I fear, as we have in the past, we have people who are merely enthusiastic about picking up a wage. To be fair to DM I think he does care, I'm just far from convinced he's capable enough to deliver what's required. My final message to Mr Nagle would be this. "The mood and discontent is not as a result of losing to our closest rivals it is born of frustration over a long period of time. NW showed you a glimpse of the passion of the fans and the potential of the club against Sheffield United earlier this year. It's down to you to accept the responsibility to take this club forward and accept the, real, challenge in front of you" UTT Post of the day/week/month/season for me (apart from the bit about not enough people believing in the potential of the club but that’s been discussed plenty hasn’t it?). Couldn’t disagree with a word of the rest of it. Not sure how we’ve come to this only four months after Warnock completed one of the most amazing rescue jobs in our history. As a friend of mine said yesterday, “Huddersfield Town are the best club in the world at destroying their own momentum.” We have seen that play out so many times in last few years already, and now we’ve managed to do it again. Incredible, and completely fair I think that KN has some pretty serious questions to answer now. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Oct 29, 2023 10:03:06 GMT 1
All Kevs mates that came on here pretending to be normal Town fans seem to have disappeared. Was it Just a guy and Castle Hill Terrier ? What about the ones abusing us? I just laugh about their comments, clearly have zero understanding of the sport and don’t know what’s good or bad in it. Can take whatever opinion they give in the future with a pinch of salt. |
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 29, 2023 10:14:34 GMT 1
Where's the tweeting bastard tonight? I don't know but it's not a good look when he is on there gushing about his Sacramento team whilst we are getting hammered every week. I can't imagine he will be very happy after that and the fingers will be pointed directly at Cartwright and the other bloke who's name I forget because he seems to do fuck all |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Oct 29, 2023 10:18:55 GMT 1
Haven't us fans suffered enough from public embarrassment over the last few years? Premier league club employing a nobody in a public showing of accepting relegation in January! Wasted all the budget on players who didn't even play for us and left for next to nothing. Taken over by a man with no money part 1. Paddy Power stunt. Relegation battle in first season back in champ. 7-0 on TV at Norwich. Screwed over by VAR in the play off final Sell our best 2 players in a combined deal for not much to the beneficiaries of that play off final. Lose manager to the same beneficiaries. Employing not 1 but 2 frauds as manager and in yet ANOTHER relegation battle. 2nd one of those frauds is a public embarrassment. Old owner has to step in before we go bust because he sold to the man who was skint in the first place. Taken over by 'American Billionaire' who then facilitates our worst transfer window in years. Sacks the only good thing about the club in Warnock. Employs fraud number 3. Battered without a whimper at our biggest rivals. Warnock about to take over and probably save one of our relegation rivals. Ive definitely missed some other stuff. When will this shitshow end? Great post, I couldn’t agree more. |
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Post by hoggy1975 on Oct 29, 2023 10:56:32 GMT 1
All Kevs mates that came on here pretending to be normal Town fans seem to have disappeared. Was it Just a guy and Castle Hill Terrier ? Castle hill was the PR man who has quickly vanished yet loads on here lapped up what he was saying. I got some abuse from a couple of the usual suspects for daring to question his motives .. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 29, 2023 11:02:09 GMT 1
All Kevs mates that came on here pretending to be normal Town fans seem to have disappeared. Was it Just a guy and Castle Hill Terrier ? Castle Hill Terrier was just a return of htafc35 |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Oct 29, 2023 11:03:33 GMT 1
Haven't us fans suffered enough from public embarrassment over the last few years? Premier league club employing a nobody in a public showing of accepting relegation in January! Wasted all the budget on players who didn't even play for us and left for next to nothing. Taken over by a man with no money part 1. Paddy Power stunt. Relegation battle in first season back in champ. 7-0 on TV at Norwich. Screwed over by VAR in the play off final Sell our best 2 players in a combined deal for not much to the beneficiaries of that play off final. Lose manager to the same beneficiaries. Employing not 1 but 2 frauds as manager and in yet ANOTHER relegation battle. 2nd one of those frauds is a public embarrassment. Old owner has to step in before we go bust because he sold to the man who was skint in the first place. Taken over by 'American Billionaire' who then facilitates our worst transfer window in years. Sacks the only good thing about the club in Warnock. Employs fraud number 3. Battered without a whimper at our biggest rivals. Warnock about to take over and probably save one of our relegation rivals. Ive definitely missed some other stuff. When will this shitshow end? Great post, I couldn’t agree more. Victims of one ego trip after another. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2023 11:30:14 GMT 1
Only at Huddersfield Town can you be sat pretty comfortably in the Championship heading for a stabilising average season and then decide we fancy a relegation battle. Did anyone think we were getting relegated 7 weeks or whatever it was ago? Does anyone now think this squad has any chance of earning 50 points? It’s a Marcus Stewart sized fuck up of self implosion Optimistic appraisal for me,plenty thought a relegation battle was a possibility.Amoung our crowd most thought Warnock might keep us out of the bottom 3 again. |
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Post by runner76 on Oct 29, 2023 11:36:17 GMT 1
Only at Huddersfield Town can you be sat pretty comfortably in the Championship heading for a stabilising average season and then decide we fancy a relegation battle. Did anyone think we were getting relegated 7 weeks or whatever it was ago? Does anyone now think this squad has any chance of earning 50 points? It’s a Marcus Stewart sized fuck up of self implosion Optimistic appraisal for me,plenty thought a relegation battle was a possibility.Amoung our crowd most thought Warnock might keep us out of the bottom 3 again. I thought most of our Warnock love-in fans thought he’d have a shot at getting us in the play offs!?……  |
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Post by jim59 on Oct 29, 2023 11:38:28 GMT 1
See lots of disgruntled, forlorn tenants in my job as a gas engineer
Absentee landlords aplenty.
Feels the same being a Town fan.
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Post by goodbet on Oct 29, 2023 13:20:46 GMT 1
It will get to the point where supporters will be so pissed off, and attendances will plummet. The downhill spiral all started with the D.H and P.H. deal. The downhill spiral stARTED when Dean recovered from his illness and decided he wanted to get as much of the money that he wasted on transfer fees in the Premiership as possible. |
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Oct 29, 2023 15:29:47 GMT 1
From a club perspective, then it takes time, and willing to have some patience to see how things turn out under his stewardship.
From a football perspective - awful start - you either keep Warnock for the season or if wanted a change / longer term appointment now, then it should have been done at the end of last season - giving a new manager a full preseason and the summer transfer window.
Doing what we have done is shambolic.
I don’t rate Moore at all, but irrespective of who the next manager was going to be after Warnock - do it at the end of a season not during it, especially when our form was decent. Replacing a great proven manager with anyone mid-season is a high risk strategy that is arrogant and misguided.
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Post by Justasmithers on Oct 29, 2023 16:24:44 GMT 1
All Kevs mates that came on here pretending to be normal Town fans seem to have disappeared. Was it Just a guy and Castle Hill Terrier ? Here every day. Read everything. Carry on |
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Post by towntastic on Oct 29, 2023 16:53:11 GMT 1
Dugnet hit the nail on the head. Only thing to add is this seems uncannily like a rerun of the Rubery saga where he surrounded himself by yes men who were just big bullshitters. They all new better than the fans who spend a lifetime watching the team and as a Town fan we are bred to expect the worse. DMs honyemoon period is well and truly over and he is like a rabbit caught in the headlights. To save face they will do nothing and take us down. Nagle should bite the bullet and sack off his boardroom and start again. They have talked the talk but its just noise and backslapping. Seeing Warnock off was the most ridiculous decision Ive seen in 60 years of watching and all over comments on the internet. If he had got the signings he wanted and got us top 6 then he would have probably signed for another season never mind this. Its amazing how high flying business men loose their faculties once the buy a football club, I think its like those who want to get on the telly the become talentless. His choice of advisers is amazing as they wouldnt get anywhere near his own business. Im worried for the future as we all know how it ended up with Rubery and fear that will happen again. Only one chairman so far in my years came close to being the real deal and then to quote his own words decided to Blow his brains out, and his legacy went down the drain. They just dont get it, the performance against Leeds will never be acceptable to any Town fan who wont accept no passion, no trying and no skill. Warnock knew the limitation of players but gave them confidence and played them in their correct positions. If something dosent happen quickly the atmosphere will turn toxic and the proverbial will really hit the fan.
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 29, 2023 16:55:08 GMT 1
All Kevs mates that came on here pretending to be normal Town fans seem to have disappeared. Was it Just a guy and Castle Hill Terrier ? Here every day. Read everything. Carry on What are your thoughts on yesterday's shitshow and our right back that looks like he has been plucked from the pub darts team? |
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Post by royrace on Oct 29, 2023 17:04:29 GMT 1
Here every day. Read everything. Carry on What are your thoughts on yesterday's shitshow and our right back that looks like he has been plucked from the pub darts team? My thoughts are he must have a very impressive calorie intake to be over weight despite being in his twenties and a pro footballer. Can you imagine being thick enough to pick that chump over Pearson. The mind boggles. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Oct 29, 2023 17:05:39 GMT 1
All Kevs mates that came on here pretending to be normal Town fans seem to have disappeared. Was it Just a guy and Castle Hill Terrier ? Here every day. Read everything. Carry on Take note. A lot of Town fans are very intelligent, understand English football and deeply love their football club. Supporters are currently feeling very down and demoralised, we have been browbeaten by years of perceived gross mismanagement and lack of ambition by the club. Bad decision after bad decision. The club could do a lot worse than tap into that knowledge and set up an advisory supporters panel. |
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 29, 2023 17:11:10 GMT 1
What are your thoughts on yesterday's shitshow and our right back that looks like he has been plucked from the pub darts team? My thoughts are he must have a very impressive calorie intake to be over weight despite being in his twenties and a pro footballer. Can you imagine being thick enough to pick that chump over Pearson. The mind boggles. Absolutely baffling decision. Looking at the opposition attacking threat and speed makes it even more baffling. I just can’t get my head around what was going through DMs head. |
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Post by King Neil on Oct 29, 2023 17:14:10 GMT 1
I still don't think we will go down...we have just made things complicated instead of a stress free season
We can get enough point's in the home games if we stick with them and give them encouragement
A toxic atmosphere at home games is just going to make things worse for all of us
Vent on here,,but let's get behind them on match days
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