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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 29, 2024 7:51:40 GMT 1
Anyone seen Maynard and Cartwright in the same room?
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Sept 30, 2024 9:42:19 GMT 1
Monday Morning and he's still in a job. Just incredible gross negligence.
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 30, 2024 9:54:49 GMT 1
He can’t be given another window surely!? I'm stunned he was allowed to oversee the last one. If Nagle pretended that he had to re interview for your position after 12 months then it's not gone well, has it? I’ve edited that last bit for you for accuracy. |
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Post by ballbag91 on Sept 30, 2024 10:10:54 GMT 1
And to think of the shit directed at Leigh Bromby, who in comparison did a cracking job. Ross Wilson (?), if that is his name, got shit too. But as I recall, he got lolley and billing. Bromby didn't seem to do too well, but was it him that employed corberan? |
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Post by ballbag91 on Sept 30, 2024 10:11:50 GMT 1
Anyone seen Maynard and Cartwright in the same room? Maynard has been posting for years, even when Butterfield refused to play |
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Post by SacTown on Sept 30, 2024 14:12:00 GMT 1
And to think of the shit directed at Leigh Bromby, who in comparison did a cracking job. Ross Wilson (?), if that is his name, got shit too. But as I recall, he got lolley and billing. Bromby didn't seem to do too well, but was it him that employed corberan? Bromby at least had a good season to his credit when we reached the play offs. Some good recruitment that year. The following season was clearly a disaster, but he was working within a budget. He also kept his counsel when marginalised when Warnock came in. |
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Post by runner76 on Sept 30, 2024 14:15:11 GMT 1
.....recall that Nagle said Edwards and MC had re-interviewed end of last season....wonder what the 'tipping point' will be on him giving MC the boot? I would like to think there is plenty time to get back on track this season, and the new lads will prove to be good recruitment, but wonder where the actual barometer is for Nagle? Assume if we end up in the bottom half for any sustained length of time (5+ games) that could be it....
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Post by Sio on Sept 30, 2024 14:24:26 GMT 1
.....recall that Nagle said Edwards and MC had re-interviewed end of last season....wonder what the 'tipping point' will be on him giving MC the boot? I would like to think there is plenty time to get back on track this season, and the new lads will prove to be good recruitment, but wonder where the actual barometer is for Nagle? Assume if we end up in the bottom half for any sustained length of time (5+ games) that could be it.... "Mark I haven't got a clue about English football - are we going to get promoted next year?" "Yes" "You've got the job" |
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Post by dugnet on Sept 30, 2024 14:42:48 GMT 1
.....recall that Nagle said Edwards and MC had re-interviewed end of last season....wonder what the 'tipping point' will be on him giving MC the boot? I would like to think there is plenty time to get back on track this season, and the new lads will prove to be good recruitment, but wonder where the actual barometer is for Nagle? Assume if we end up in the bottom half for any sustained length of time (5+ games) that could be it.... In the short term it is down to MD to get the best out of the players available. I think he might find a way to be better, I certainly hope he will. As for the footballing decisions taken overall under Mr Nagle there must be a point when that is reviewed critically. I would expect Mr Nagle would be doing that anyway ie irrespective of results on the pitch. If things don't materially improve then no one can say things are going well. However some thought to what has gone wrong/what needs to change needs to happen. It is easy as fans to say "Cartwright is the problem" (noting I understand why many draw that conclusion) but it is why things aren't working/haven't worked that needs to be determined. It then needs a clear head about what is required. Given Mr Nagle, and I would note that I think his model of employing credible people in key roles and delegating is the right one, has limited experience in English football who does seek advice from? There is a real danger he could jump from frying pan into the fire, so he needs to be considered and seek assistance. We all want things to improve. There's nothing I wouldn't want more than to come on here and say; "I was wrong, recruitment was good and the players have come good" but evidence isn't pointing to that being the likely outcome. If things don't improve we have to recognise things need to be better. This isn't being unpleasant and calling for someone's head glibly it is the reality of the situation we face. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 30, 2024 18:39:59 GMT 1
If you spoke to the 5 (yes 5!) managers that have been in charge under Nagles ownership and asked them honestly, who is to blame for Town being in the mess they are currently in? Who do you think they would pinpoint?
Never going to happen, mainly because Worthy and Duff are currently still employed but it would be really interesting to see how many blame Cartwright, Nagle, the players or someone else.
Doesn’t really matter who is the manager, the same problems persist.
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Post by SacTown on Sept 30, 2024 19:12:12 GMT 1
Last season when it was evident we were sinking after appointing Moore, Cartwright started sacking backroom staff.
I wonder how long it will be before we get a repeat, rather than some self reflection from the fat lump.
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 30, 2024 19:26:00 GMT 1
Last season when it was evident we were sinking after appointing Moore, Cartwright started sacking backroom staff. I wonder how long it will be before we get a repeat, rather than some self reflection from the fat lump. Which ironically was exactly what Bromby did. |
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Post by irverino on Sept 30, 2024 22:57:29 GMT 1
At what point do you say, ok, I made a mistake......Barry left it a bit too late with Ian Ayre.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 30, 2024 23:08:26 GMT 1
If you spoke to the 5 (yes 5!) managers that have been in charge under Nagles ownership and asked them honestly, who is to blame for Town being in the mess they are currently in? Who do you think they would pinpoint? Never going to happen, mainly because Worthy and Duff are currently still employed but it would be really interesting to see how many blame Cartwright, Nagle, the players or someone else. Doesn’t really matter who is the manager, the same problems persist. What if they said Nagle?….👀👀🫣 |
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 1, 2024 0:15:27 GMT 1
Mark Cartwright = Charlatan Might be good if he became athletic and fucked off to Charltan ASAP ! |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Oct 1, 2024 16:09:28 GMT 1
It’s a bit of a mates club at Town with Cartwright and Edward’s as thick as thieves. There is that American guy too who is overloooking the whole operation for Nagle. He is obsessed with attendances and selling merchandise. In other words making money. I reckon if the crowd show how unhappy they are with Cartwright on Saturday then he will be seen as a threat to profits and thus expendable.
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Post by specialun on Oct 1, 2024 16:17:59 GMT 1
Monday Morning and he's still in a job. Just incredible gross negligence. Kept Nicholls Kept Helik last year POTY Kept Spencer Signed left wing back won promotion league one Signed centre half won promotion league one Signed right wing back best in league one last year Seemingly signed Iniesta on loan from wolves judging by calls for him to starr Signed Bristol player of season Signed Kane from Barnsley most thought excellent business Brought in striker won promotion this level 19 goals Brought in striker on loan West Ham Missed out main striker target He deserved some (perhaps a lot) of the stick he got last year. But seriously - what else could he have done this summer in the transfer market? I really struggle with criticism aimed at him this season other than he’s an easy target I can’t recall anyone saying start of season we looked light except upfront Genuine question to you or others calling for him to be sacked what else could he have done? This is for Duff to solve now |
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Post by soapystevens on Oct 1, 2024 16:31:24 GMT 1
As the results continue to be poor and both attendances and merchandise will continue to fall no doubt Mr Nagle will want an explanation at the next committee meeting.
If Mr cartwright was to get the push!! who is responsible for bringing in a replacement, surely it can't be Mr Nagle he does not have the experience.
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 1, 2024 16:41:48 GMT 1
Mark Cartwright = Charlatan I suppose the question is How High he can take the club? |
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Post by bluebeard on Oct 1, 2024 16:43:10 GMT 1
Monday Morning and he's still in a job. Just incredible gross negligence. Kept Nicholls Kept Helik last year POTY Kept Spencer Signed left wing back won promotion league one Signed centre half won promotion league one Signed right wing back best in league one last year Seemingly signed Iniesta on loan from wolves judging by calls for him to starr Signed Bristol player of season Signed Kane from Barnsley most thought excellent business Brought in striker won promotion this level 19 goals Brought in striker on loan West Ham Missed out main striker target He deserved some (perhaps a lot) of the stick he got last year. But seriously - what else could he have done this summer in the transfer market? I really struggle with criticism aimed at him this season other than he’s an easy target I can’t recall anyone saying start of season we looked light except upfront Genuine question to you or others calling for him to be sacked what else could he have done? This is for Duff to solve now Apparently, we had offers for both Helik and Nicholls but not enough, Marshall still not convinced about him yet, but what i do agree with is Mr Duff needs to solve it now. I am not happy with his stubborness that the system is not at fault. |
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Post by theterrier42 on Oct 1, 2024 21:43:11 GMT 1
He’s done some shocking things for this club, but the worst has to be signing ladapo for two years. He has to have won a competition to play for us
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Post by TJTown on Oct 1, 2024 21:44:55 GMT 1
Has he been sacked yet?
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Post by ldr on Oct 1, 2024 21:59:41 GMT 1
It really is with regret having to say this but this imbecile cannot choose another manager for us or get anywhere near another transfer window. Get him on gardening leave right now.
Edit: imbecile is a bit strong and not fair, Soz folks.
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Post by SacTown on Oct 1, 2024 21:59:58 GMT 1
Get this fat chancer out of our club now.
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Post by dugnet on Oct 1, 2024 22:00:48 GMT 1
Mr Nagle:
This chap has summarily wasted a significant proportion of the fortune you worked very hard to earn. In doing so he has made what was already a failing football club worse.
More than happy to debate the pointat any time but the evidence suggests that this is a wholly fair assessment of your DoF's performance and contribution since his appointment.
At what point do you review and realise things aren't working and need to change?
This season looks lost already. Positive words and good intentions won't cut it. If you want to be successful in English football you need better for your cash and new voices, ideas and impetuous.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Oct 1, 2024 22:05:29 GMT 1
It really is with regret having to say this but this imbecile cannot choose another manager for us or get anywhere near another transfer window. Get him on gardening leave right now. Edit: imbecile is a bit strong and not fair, Soz folks. I wouldn’t worry, he’s getting called a lot worse on social media. |
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Post by SacTown on Oct 1, 2024 22:09:02 GMT 1
Monday Morning and he's still in a job. Just incredible gross negligence. Kept Nicholls Kept Helik last year POTY Kept Spencer Signed left wing back won promotion league one Signed centre half won promotion league one Signed right wing back best in league one last year Seemingly signed Iniesta on loan from wolves judging by calls for him to starr Signed Bristol player of season Signed Kane from Barnsley most thought excellent business Brought in striker won promotion this level 19 goals Brought in striker on loan West Ham Missed out main striker target He deserved some (perhaps a lot) of the stick he got last year. But seriously - what else could he have done this summer in the transfer market? I really struggle with criticism aimed at him this season other than he’s an easy target I can’t recall anyone saying start of season we looked light except upfront Genuine question to you or others calling for him to be sacked what else could he have done? This is for Duff to solve now Forget the transfers, it’s what’s going on behind the scenes and the general culture that’s wrong. All the responsibility of fatty. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Oct 1, 2024 22:09:51 GMT 1
I’m starting to think Nagle and co think football is like the NBA, where you get the best prospects if you are the worst team.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 1, 2024 22:12:33 GMT 1
So, here we are again.
One year after just about everyone on this site recognised that the squad assembled in the summer was not fit for purpose, it’s happened again.
How many more wasted years is the owner prepared to accept?
Do we spend the rest of this season treading water in this dreadful league and who knows, risk ANOTHER relegation, or can the owner be proactive and save our season now ?
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Post by NumeroUno on Oct 1, 2024 22:12:50 GMT 1
On paper, prior to the start of the season, and without any context whatsoever, tonight would have been an “acceptable” defeat. A 1-0 narrow loss away to the only other team expected to compete with us for the title, no big deal.
As it stands, we’re on 4 losses in a row having lost 7 of the last 8 in all competitions with shite football and team showing no quality, pride, or desire to win.
We’re 15th and 10pts behind Birmingham who have a game in hand. Even Wrexham 5pts ahead looks a mountain to climb to the automatic places, our publicly stated goal.
It’s currently looking like this season turns into another relegation battle not a toss up between autos and the title the chairman was hoping for.
The club is rotten and loser-mentality has infested it like a cancer. I don’t doubt Nagle’s ambitions but this attitude needs to be removed if we’re ever to move forward. Wholesale changes need to be made behind the scenes to bring in competent people who can drive the club in the right direction before even thinking about on-field changes.
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