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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jan 7, 2024 10:43:12 GMT 1
Under CC we had a younger hogg and obrien protecting the back line. Massive difference to what we have had this year - lees is still decent enough but like them all when exposed can be found wanting against mobility. Agreed, Lees has been an absolute quality addition when it mattered, along with Pearson. But 2-3 years on, their flaws are becoming more evident. They both lack pace which is the problem we need to repair. As leaders/experience, no club in the league could do much better. This is not a dig at their ability, commitment or whatever, but reality hits. Both need to be replaced (in terms of starters). Both are very much adequate for cover/playing 15-20 games in the league. For the level we want to be at, we need better. Totally agree, I love the Keighley Cannavaro & both he & Lees have done a great job for us but if we are to progress & play more football, the CBs, at least in a 3, need more pace & passing ability.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jan 7, 2024 11:27:28 GMT 1
A pacey CB would make Helik twice the (already very good) player he is. A pacey center back? What's one of those? I’m sure we’ll find out this afternoon! Not sure I fancy any of our fit forwards in a race with Kyle Walker.
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Post by royrace on Jan 7, 2024 11:41:16 GMT 1
Agreed, Lees has been an absolute quality addition when it mattered, along with Pearson. But 2-3 years on, their flaws are becoming more evident. They both lack pace which is the problem we need to repair. As leaders/experience, no club in the league could do much better. This is not a dig at their ability, commitment or whatever, but reality hits. Both need to be replaced (in terms of starters). Both are very much adequate for cover/playing 15-20 games in the league. For the level we want to be at, we need better. Totally agree, I love the Keighley Cannavaro & both he & Lees have done a great job for us but if we are to progress & play more football, the CBs, at least in a 3, need more pace & passing ability. I'm no tactical genius, far from it, but are ball playing, pacy centre backs really necessary at this level? I remember lots of successful teams having no nonsense quality centre backs with no peace. Surely if you setup right it shouldn't be necessary. I think we're blessed with three top quality centre backs and have backup with Hogg, ruffles, reg. I also think our first choice three can pass the ball just fine. I think it's the least of our worries personally but like I said I'm not expert! I'm guessing they don't grow on trees either.
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Post by royrace on Jan 7, 2024 11:42:58 GMT 1
A pacey center back? What's one of those? I’m sure we’ll find out this afternoon! Not sure I fancy any of our fit forwards in a race with Kyle Walker. Not sure anyone would! He's 33 too, amazing really! I think we can forget trying to out pace them!
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Post by Tiro on Jan 7, 2024 12:27:07 GMT 1
Not far off meeting an agreed price for CBT How can you not ‘meet’ an ‘agreed’ price? It’s either agreed or not.
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Post by dezzly on Jan 7, 2024 12:32:37 GMT 1
Couple of things as iv mentioned in another post,lees and Pearson are both(can probably chuck Helik in this too) very good defenders for the level.However if we do want to progress the style of play we should look to be after at least one centre half to come in who is quick and also good on the ball. I personally would be playing reg at centre half against city not ayina,yes he’s not been the best there in some games in the past but he’s looked steady when he’s played recently albeit in a different position.Ayina looked absolutely all over the place against Leicester,his positional sense looked poor at best. I’d actually be amazed if we don’t sign one "Probably chuck Helik in this too", he's streets ahead of the other 2 Tbf was only referring to the pace element.didn’t really explain very well.although he in fairness is probably slightly quicker than the other two. Don’t get me wrong if we stick with a three he’d be first name on team sheet or if go to a two the same.
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Post by calken on Jan 7, 2024 12:54:22 GMT 1
Not far off meeting an agreed price for CBT Is Kevin getting a motorbike license?
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Post by kennyk2 on Jan 7, 2024 13:54:46 GMT 1
Not far off meeting an agreed price for CBT Genuinely two footed.
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Post by Hazza on Jan 7, 2024 13:57:45 GMT 1
Not far off meeting an agreed price for CBT Is Kevin getting a motorbike license? I got it. That’s some mild humour though. 😉
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Post by durhamterrier on Jan 7, 2024 19:45:33 GMT 1
Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently .
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jan 7, 2024 19:50:58 GMT 1
Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . I'd heard he was leaving Leeds but Stoke fans seem quite confident he's off there.
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Post by willo on Jan 7, 2024 19:53:43 GMT 1
Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . Would be another decent signing.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 7, 2024 19:54:57 GMT 1
Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . Would be very happy with that. Good defender and a threat at set pieces
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 7, 2024 19:57:25 GMT 1
Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . I'd definitely have him here
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jan 7, 2024 20:02:10 GMT 1
Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . Yes please
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Jan 7, 2024 20:10:50 GMT 1
Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . Yes please Hopefully this is who MB was referring to.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jan 8, 2024 4:07:59 GMT 1
Just throwing a name out there being rumoured - a young very skillful winger we are looking at as a Premier loan.....Omari Kelllyman currently at Aston Villa. All l know is he - as many previous have gone on to have a very useful career after being Player of the tournament at the Hong Kong Sevens. Anyone know anything further about him? Hong Kong 7's, we're after another egg chaser 🤔 I know we need to bulk the forward line but this is taking it a bit far. Hopefully they’ve heard the rumour wrong and we are selling Simpson to the HK 7’s.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jan 8, 2024 4:58:51 GMT 1
A pacey fullback who can tackle can cover up the weaknesses of no-nonsense centre backs. I remember Peltier (1st spell) would sweep up behind a high line.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 8, 2024 10:07:11 GMT 1
Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . Cresswell looks like he is leaving Leeds this window on loan, lots of clubs however interested in him. Would be a top signing if we can pull this one off, i was told a CB signing on loan was very close just not sure is Cresswell however but if it is then its a top class signing.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 8, 2024 10:39:00 GMT 1
Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . Cresswell looks like he is leaving Leeds this window on loan, lots of clubs however interested in him. Would be a top signing if we can pull this one off, i was told a CB signing on loan was very close just not sure is Cresswell however but if it is then its a top class signing. So you are just repeating what durhamterrier has already said? Thanks for the breaking news!
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 8, 2024 11:24:10 GMT 1
Totally agree, I love the Keighley Cannavaro & both he & Lees have done a great job for us but if we are to progress & play more football, the CBs, at least in a 3, need more pace & passing ability. I'm no tactical genius, far from it, but are ball playing, pacy centre backs really necessary at this level? I remember lots of successful teams having no nonsense quality centre backs with no peace. Surely if you setup right it shouldn't be necessary. I think we're blessed with three top quality centre backs and have backup with Hogg, ruffles, reg. I also think our first choice three can pass the ball just fine. I think it's the least of our worries personally but like I said I'm not expert! I'm guessing they don't grow on trees either. One to mark, one to cover behind and to bring the ball out and one to cover the wing backs. The one covering behind needs some pace. Colvill did get the gig after a while. We are ending up in open play having all 3 centre backs all stood next to each other somewhere between the goal keeper and the penalty spot and acres of space on the edge of the box and down the sides of it. I like having full backs if im honest, one centre back marking and one covering. Helik plus one.. I like having 4 proper defenders on the pitch and one proper holding midfielder, the other 5 can be of varying attacking types. I know its old school..😔
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Post by jqhtfc on Jan 8, 2024 12:14:27 GMT 1
Fabio Carvalho joining Hull on loan apparently be a ridiculous signing for them
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Post by schindlersmissed on Jan 8, 2024 12:35:02 GMT 1
Not far off meeting an agreed price for CBT Genuinely two footed. Apologies for my ignorance but who is CBT?
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Post by waggers on Jan 8, 2024 12:35:08 GMT 1
Cresswell looks like he is leaving Leeds this window on loan, lots of clubs however interested in him. Would be a top signing if we can pull this one off, i was told a CB signing on loan was very close just not sure is Cresswell however but if it is then its a top class signing. So you are just repeating what durhamterrier has already said? Thanks for the breaking news! It fascinates me posters like this, comedy gold. He knows he's been found out as a bullshitter but just carries on, re wording things already reported. He never actually responds when outed as a standard DATM in the know bullshitter.
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 8, 2024 12:41:32 GMT 1
Apologies for my ignorance but who is CBT? Corey Blackett-Taylor winger at Charlton
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jan 8, 2024 13:01:44 GMT 1
Cresswell looks like he is leaving Leeds this window on loan, lots of clubs however interested in him. Would be a top signing if we can pull this one off, i was told a CB signing on loan was very close just not sure is Cresswell however but if it is then its a top class signing. So you are just repeating what durhamterrier has already said? Thanks for the breaking news! plus ça change
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 8, 2024 13:34:22 GMT 1
So you are just repeating what durhamterrier has already said? Thanks for the breaking news! It fascinates me posters like this, comedy gold. He knows he's been found out as a bullshitter but just carries on, re wording things already reported. He never actually responds when outed as a standard DATM in the know bullshitter. I find it strange that if you dont like what I post, yet you need to reply. Go through my messages and you will find 90% of what I have said is correct many times it was said before others also, I really dont care what you think I do however know that many people want to read my posts and do correctly trust what I am saying my inbox would prove this ! believe or not believe, It doesnt bother me but why you have to start abuse "bullshitter" etc I have no idea. I also dont really think its repeating what Durham said either rather commenting on what was said. Durham Said Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . I said Cresswell looks like he is leaving Leeds this window on loan, lots of clubs however interested in him. Would be a top signing if we can pull this one off, i was told a CB signing on loan was very close just not sure it is Cresswell however but if it is then its a top class signing. I was backing Durham up saying Cresswell looks to be leaving on loan this window, basically saying it could be possible as I am told we are very close to signing a CB on loan 2+2 might not equal 4 this time around. I also mentioned how it would be a great signing IMHO but doubtful. The only bit of information in my post that wasnt jsut a comment about what Durham said was that we are very close to signing a CB on loan. If we are talking about my opionion it is that, Cresswell is not coming here and will Join Blackburn or Stoke sometime soon.
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Post by boooothy on Jan 8, 2024 13:48:35 GMT 1
What does the News Network say?
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jan 8, 2024 13:51:20 GMT 1
It fascinates me posters like this, comedy gold. He knows he's been found out as a bullshitter but just carries on, re wording things already reported. He never actually responds when outed as a standard DATM in the know bullshitter. I find it strange that if you dont like what I post, yet you need to reply. Go through my messages and you will find 90% of what I have said is correct many times it was said before others also, I really dont care what you think I do however know that many people want to read my posts and do correctly trust what I am saying my inbox would prove this ! believe or not believe, It doesnt bother me but why you have to start abuse "bullshitter" etc I have no idea. I also dont really think its repeating what Durham said either rather commenting on what was said. Durham Said Word round a few Leeds fans I know is Charlie Cresswell , promising centre back , is coming on loan to us for rest of season . Not getting a sniff at Leeds and impressed at Millwall last year apparently . I said Cresswell looks like he is leaving Leeds this window on loan, lots of clubs however interested in him. Would be a top signing if we can pull this one off, i was told a CB signing on loan was very close just not sure it is Cresswell however but if it is then its a top class signing. I was backing Durham up saying Cresswell looks to be leaving on loan this window, basically saying it could be possible as I am told we are very close to signing a CB on loan 2+2 might not equal 4 this time around. I also mentioned how it would be a great signing IMHO but doubtful. The only bit of information in my post that wasnt jsut a comment about what Durham said was that we are very close to signing a CB on loan. If we are talking about my opionion it is that, Cresswell is not coming here and will Join Blackburn or Stoke sometime soon. Did you keep the receipts? Show your workings....
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Post by desertstorm on Jan 8, 2024 13:57:35 GMT 1
It beggar's belief that people post on here and are instantly classified as bull shitters, or you need proof.
Realistically what do you expect, for posters to be forthcoming with their source of information. Not likely!
Either take note or take with a pinch of salt what has been posted. Instead of getting your knickers in a twist, just scroll on.
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