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Post by royalflush on Dec 11, 2023 1:57:31 GMT 1
The last time we scored a penalty at home, it was 25th February 2020 in a 2-1 win vs, of all opponents, Bristol City. Four days later we'd see our final home game for nearly 4 months. 2023/24 - N/A 2022/23 - Missed: None. Scored: Rhodes (Luton away). 2021/22 - Missed: Ward (Bristol City away). Scored: Holmes (Fulham away) & Anjorin (Coventry away) 2020/21 - Missed: Bacuna (Wendies home), Campbell (Millwall home) & Sanogo (Cardiff home). Scored: None 2019/20 - Missed: Grant (Birmingham away). Scored: Grant (Derby home, QPR away, Blackburn away, Bristol City home, Forest away, Birmingham away) & Mounié (QPR home) In 2019/20 alone we were given 8 penalties. In the following 158 matches, we've been given 7 penalties. Our current run of home games without a penalty being awarded is 63, and you can make that 86 for home games without a penalty being scored. 4 months? None of us watched a home game in the flesh for 17 months |
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Post by goodbet on Dec 11, 2023 9:43:31 GMT 1
Looked at Robins board last night and they seemed to admit it was penalty. Still said we were shite and there for the taking, worst team they'd seen etc.... incredible the club have picked up any points. We may not have been too clever under Warnock but no one said we that bad. |
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Dec 11, 2023 21:40:18 GMT 1
The last time we scored a penalty at home, it was 25th February 2020 in a 2-1 win vs, of all opponents, Bristol City. Four days later we'd see our final home game for nearly 4 months. 2023/24 - N/A 2022/23 - Missed: None. Scored: Rhodes (Luton away). 2021/22 - Missed: Ward (Bristol City away). Scored: Holmes (Fulham away) & Anjorin (Coventry away) 2020/21 - Missed: Bacuna (Wendies home), Campbell (Millwall home) & Sanogo (Cardiff home). Scored: None 2019/20 - Missed: Grant (Birmingham away). Scored: Grant (Derby home, QPR away, Blackburn away, Bristol City home, Forest away, Birmingham away) & Mounié (QPR home) In 2019/20 alone we were given 8 penalties. In the following 158 matches, we've been given 7 penalties. Our current run of home games without a penalty being awarded is 63, and you can make that 86 for home games without a penalty being scored. 4 months? None of us watched a home game in the flesh for 17 months But they were available to watch on iFollow so it was 4 months (after Charlton) before any of us were able to watch a home match again by any means. |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Apr 11, 2024 16:30:42 GMT 1
Still waiting on that home Penalty.
Given we dont play at home again now until 20th April 2024 it will be at LEAST 1142 days.
That must be some sort of record
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Post by mids on Apr 11, 2024 17:03:51 GMT 1
Looking online there's stories of Bristol City going 63 games in 520 days without being awarded one...that was February 2023.
Not sure if they have had one since, or how long it continued.
What are we currently at?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 11, 2024 17:05:44 GMT 1
Looking online there's stories of Bristol City going 63 games in 520 days without being awarded one...that was February 2023. Not sure if they have had one since, or how long it continued. What are we currently at? Bristol City had two penalties last night, Marcus! We had a penalty at Millwall, Burgzorg scored. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 12, 2024 12:49:39 GMT 1
Still waiting on that home Penalty. Given we dont play at home again now until 20th April 2024 it will be at LEAST 1142 days. That must be some sort of record From what I can see, it is! An all-time Football League record for longest time between home penalties, both in terms of days and matches. No side has EVER gone 3 full seasons without a home penalty from what I've looked up. We're currently two matches from the end of that third season. Just for league games, we're on 72 games without being awarded a home penalty. Chuck in cup ties and play-offs, and we're at 77. For context, the longest known run without a penalty full stop (home or away) in English football was Port Vale, with 73 games. It is a statistical freak of the highest order, and it just goes to show: we don't get any luck. Even when we were a damn good side in 2021/22, we got 3 penalties all season. But we don't get them. We should have had 4 penalties just in the play-offs, but got none. Since resumption of normal service in August 2021, we have been awarded the fewest penalties of every side in England. Compare to Reading - who were utterly lamentable last season but got 8 penalties. That's as many as us since August 2020! |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Apr 12, 2024 13:15:04 GMT 1
We all know some of this can be explained away by our timidity in attack and time spent in the opposition box. However, there have been decent penalty shouts in our home games. If that penalty at Preston is a guide then we should have had a good few over the past two to three years. Why we don’t seem to get ‘Homer’ referees amazes me. I remember Buxton back in the 80s talking about referees down south being less than objective and since then I think for Town it now stretches to matches in Huddersfield.
By the way at the other end of the spectrum Rangers get a penalty every four games and have not conceded one since January 2022. Yes we know they attack much more but their defenders not committing one foul in their own area in over two years suggests they should be invincible. Until you analyse their record in Europe where the situation rapidly corrects itself.
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Post by m62terrier on Apr 12, 2024 13:29:39 GMT 1
We all know some of this can be explained away by our timidity in attack and time spent in the opposition box. However, there have been decent penalty shouts in our home games. If that penalty at Preston is a guide then we should have had a good few over the past two to three years. Why we don’t seem to get ‘Homer’ referees amazes me. I remember Buxton back in the 80s talking about referees down south being less than objective and since then I think for Town it now stretches to matches in Huddersfield. By the way at the other end of the spectrum Rangers get a penalty every four games and have not conceded one since January 2022. Yes we know they attack much more but their defenders not committing one foul in their own area in over two years suggests they should be invincible. Until you analyse their record in Europe where the situation rapidly corrects itself. Rangers conceded a penalty last Sunday against Celtic www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68702099 |
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 12, 2024 15:29:41 GMT 1
We all know some of this can be explained away by our timidity in attack and time spent in the opposition box. However, there have been decent penalty shouts in our home games. If that penalty at Preston is a guide then we should have had a good few over the past two to three years. Why we don’t seem to get ‘Homer’ referees amazes me. I remember Buxton back in the 80s talking about referees down south being less than objective and since then I think for Town it now stretches to matches in Huddersfield. By the way at the other end of the spectrum Rangers get a penalty every four games and have not conceded one since January 2022. Yes we know they attack much more but their defenders not committing one foul in their own area in over two years suggests they should be invincible. Until you analyse their record in Europe where the situation rapidly corrects itself. A few years ago you had us, Newcastle, Burnley, Bournemouth, Brighton, and Crystal Palace in the top flight. Between the northern 3 sides: 3 penalties (Burnley with the dubious distinction of getting none). Between the southern 3 sides: 20 penalties. Bearing in mind that that was the surviving bottom half (bar Southampton - 3 penalties), it's an almost unbelievable statistic. Almost as unbelievable as the fact that, despite a 100% success rate, our 3 top flight penalties got us precisely zero points. Just having a look at the home penalties stat. Millwall and Norwich haven't been awarded home penalties in 2 seasons. Both were awarded home penalties in 2021/22 (Norwich actually got 2), and both have been awarded more penalties overall than our five (Norwich one more, Millwall two). I'll also add who gets a surprisingly small number of penalties: Barnsley. Considering they've been at the top end of League One the last two seasons, just two penalties in that time. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 12, 2024 17:14:13 GMT 1
We all know some of this can be explained away by our timidity in attack and time spent in the opposition box. However, there have been decent penalty shouts in our home games. If that penalty at Preston is a guide then we should have had a good few over the past two to three years. Why we don’t seem to get ‘Homer’ referees amazes me. I remember Buxton back in the 80s talking about referees down south being less than objective and since then I think for Town it now stretches to matches in Huddersfield. By the way at the other end of the spectrum Rangers get a penalty every four games and have not conceded one since January 2022. Yes we know they attack much more but their defenders not committing one foul in their own area in over two years suggests they should be invincible. Until you analyse their record in Europe where the situation rapidly corrects itself. A few years ago you had us, Newcastle, Burnley, Bournemouth, Brighton, and Crystal Palace in the top flight. Between the northern 3 sides: 3 penalties (Burnley with the dubious distinction of getting none). Between the southern 3 sides: 20 penalties. Bearing in mind that that was the surviving bottom half (bar Southampton - 3 penalties), it's an almost unbelievable statistic. Almost as unbelievable as the fact that, despite a 100% success rate, our 3 top flight penalties got us precisely zero points.Just having a look at the home penalties stat. Millwall and Norwich haven't been awarded home penalties in 2 seasons. Both were awarded home penalties in 2021/22 (Norwich actually got 2), and both have been awarded more penalties overall than our five (Norwich one more, Millwall two). I'll also add who gets a surprisingly small number of penalties: Barnsley. Considering they've been at the top end of League One the last two seasons, just two penalties in that time. 16th December 2017: Watford 1-4 Huddersfield Town (Kachunga, Mooy, Depoitre, Mooy (penalty)) Town's first ever Premier League penalty. |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Apr 12, 2024 17:27:20 GMT 1
Rangers conceded a penalty last Sunday against Celtic.
So its another two years before they concede another ...
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 12, 2024 17:50:58 GMT 1
We all know some of this can be explained away by our timidity in attack and time spent in the opposition box. However, there have been decent penalty shouts in our home games. If that penalty at Preston is a guide then we should have had a good few over the past two to three years. Why we don’t seem to get ‘Homer’ referees amazes me. I remember Buxton back in the 80s talking about referees down south being less than objective and since then I think for Town it now stretches to matches in Huddersfield. By the way at the other end of the spectrum Rangers get a penalty every four games and have not conceded one since January 2022. Yes we know they attack much more but their defenders not committing one foul in their own area in over two years suggests they should be invincible. Until you analyse their record in Europe where the situation rapidly corrects itself. I hope your not suggesting that Scottish refs are corrupt 😉. Although the only reason their game at Dundee was called off was a waterlogged penalty spot 😁 |
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 12, 2024 17:52:05 GMT 1
A few years ago you had us, Newcastle, Burnley, Bournemouth, Brighton, and Crystal Palace in the top flight. Between the northern 3 sides: 3 penalties (Burnley with the dubious distinction of getting none). Between the southern 3 sides: 20 penalties. Bearing in mind that that was the surviving bottom half (bar Southampton - 3 penalties), it's an almost unbelievable statistic. Almost as unbelievable as the fact that, despite a 100% success rate, our 3 top flight penalties got us precisely zero points.Just having a look at the home penalties stat. Millwall and Norwich haven't been awarded home penalties in 2 seasons. Both were awarded home penalties in 2021/22 (Norwich actually got 2), and both have been awarded more penalties overall than our five (Norwich one more, Millwall two). I'll also add who gets a surprisingly small number of penalties: Barnsley. Considering they've been at the top end of League One the last two seasons, just two penalties in that time. 16th December 2017: Watford 1-4 Huddersfield Town (Kachunga, Mooy, Depoitre, Mooy (penalty)) Town's first ever Premier League penalty. 3-1 up at the time though 😛 |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 12, 2024 18:10:19 GMT 1
16th December 2017: Watford 1-4 Huddersfield Town (Kachunga, Mooy, Depoitre, Mooy (penalty)) Town's first ever Premier League penalty. 3-1 up at the time though 😛 Still part of a 3-point haul though 😛 |
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Post by araucaria on Apr 12, 2024 18:35:57 GMT 1
Still waiting on that home Penalty. Given we dont play at home again now until 20th April 2024 it will be at LEAST 1142 days. That must be some sort of record From what I can see, it is! An all-time Football League record for longest time between home penalties, both in terms of days and matches. No side has EVER gone 3 full seasons without a home penalty from what I've looked up. We're currently two matches from the end of that third season. Just for league games, we're on 72 games without being awarded a home penalty. Chuck in cup ties and play-offs, and we're at 77. For context, the longest known run without a penalty full stop (home or away) in English football was Port Vale, with 73 games. It is a statistical freak of the highest order, and it just goes to show: we don't get any luck. Even when we were a damn good side in 2021/22, we got 3 penalties all season. But we don't get them. We should have had 4 penalties just in the play-offs, but got none. Since resumption of normal service in August 2021, we have been awarded the fewest penalties of every side in England. Compare to Reading - who were utterly lamentable last season but got 8 penalties. That's as many as us since August 2020! I agree that we should have had four penalties in the play-offs. The one at Luton after 8 seconds was as blatant as any I’ve ever seen, but the ref bottled it. Toffs was the victim of three of those fouls, wasn’t he? The most blatant, I think, was Ben Haim shoving Vaughany down backwards with both hands on his chest as he turned him and was about to give our 10 men a 2-0 lead over Charlton in injury time and Tim fucking Robinson waved it away. They went straight down the other end and equalised (and we had a future England centre-back playing his only game (well, part of it) for us in that position). |
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Post by stevvy on Apr 12, 2024 19:32:12 GMT 1
That one has always stuck in my mind. He should never have been allowed to ref another game after that, at ANY level, not even in the Malawi under 6 league (if such a thing existed). I'm sure I read that he gets to ref in the PL this weekend......
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 12, 2024 19:53:50 GMT 1
We all know some of this can be explained away by our timidity in attack and time spent in the opposition box. However, there have been decent penalty shouts in our home games. If that penalty at Preston is a guide then we should have had a good few over the past two to three years. Why we don’t seem to get ‘Homer’ referees amazes me. I remember Buxton back in the 80s talking about referees down south being less than objective and since then I think for Town it now stretches to matches in Huddersfield. By the way at the other end of the spectrum Rangers get a penalty every four games and have not conceded one since January 2022. Yes we know they attack much more but their defenders not committing one foul in their own area in over two years suggests they should be invincible. Until you analyse their record in Europe where the situation rapidly corrects itself. I’m sure someone on here theorised a good few years ago that we didn’t “look after the referees properly”. That referees historically didn’t like coming to Town because the facilities and hospitality were bad? Sounds ridiculous and it’s not my theory but I definitely remember reading it. |
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 12, 2024 20:41:22 GMT 1
Still waiting on that home Penalty. Given we dont play at home again now until 20th April 2024 it will be at LEAST 1142 days. That must be some sort of record From what I can see, it is! An all-time Football League record for longest time between home penalties, both in terms of days and matches. No side has EVER gone 3 full seasons without a home penalty from what I've looked up. We're currently two matches from the end of that third season. Just for league games, we're on 72 games without being awarded a home penalty. Chuck in cup ties and play-offs, and we're at 77. For context, the longest known run without a penalty full stop (home or away) in English football was Port Vale, with 73 games. It is a statistical freak of the highest order, and it just goes to show: we don't get any luck. Even when we were a damn good side in 2021/22, we got 3 penalties all season. But we don't get them. We should have had 4 penalties just in the play-offs, but got none. Since resumption of normal service in August 2021, we have been awarded the fewest penalties of every side in England. Compare to Reading - who were utterly lamentable last season but got 8 penalties. That's as many as us since August 2020! Needs sending to The Guardian questions thing this, or publicising in some other way |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 13, 2024 13:05:30 GMT 1
From what I can see, it is! An all-time Football League record for longest time between home penalties, both in terms of days and matches. No side has EVER gone 3 full seasons without a home penalty from what I've looked up. We're currently two matches from the end of that third season. Just for league games, we're on 72 games without being awarded a home penalty. Chuck in cup ties and play-offs, and we're at 77. For context, the longest known run without a penalty full stop (home or away) in English football was Port Vale, with 73 games. It is a statistical freak of the highest order, and it just goes to show: we don't get any luck. Even when we were a damn good side in 2021/22, we got 3 penalties all season. But we don't get them. We should have had 4 penalties just in the play-offs, but got none. Since resumption of normal service in August 2021, we have been awarded the fewest penalties of every side in England. Compare to Reading - who were utterly lamentable last season but got 8 penalties. That's as many as us since August 2020! Needs sending to The Guardian questions thing this, or publicising in some other way Sent it in weeks ago - they haven't bothered with it (yet?) |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 13, 2024 13:06:33 GMT 1
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 13, 2024 17:46:43 GMT 1
And yet we've faced two penalties in 5 days
The club should be bringing this up in press conferences etc as much as possible to but some pressure on to a ref just giving us one out of pity like she did today
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Apr 13, 2024 17:54:16 GMT 1
You have to get in the opposition's penalty area to have any chance of getting a penalty don't you?
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 13, 2024 20:24:38 GMT 1
You have to get in the opposition's penalty area to have any chance of getting a penalty don't you? Hahahahaha. Yawn. |
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Post by softboy on Apr 13, 2024 20:57:46 GMT 1
In the last 2 away games we have adjudged to have conceded 2 penalties, both scored, changed the result. Yet in 3 years at home no team have ever come close to giving us a penalty.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 13, 2024 21:17:50 GMT 1
In the last 2 away games we have adjudged to have conceded 2 penalties, both scored, changed the result. Yet in 3 years at home no team have ever come close to giving us a penalty.Well, according to the officials anyway... |
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 14, 2024 0:18:23 GMT 1
When you compare the bullshit given against us today to what we were denied in the reverse fixture it makes grim reading for the quality of officials in this league.
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Post by willo on Apr 14, 2024 0:26:11 GMT 1
You have to get in the opposition's penalty area to have any chance of getting a penalty don't you? We spent plenty time in the oppo’s penalty area today (surprisingly). The question is would that penalty have been given at the other end? I rather think it wouldn’t have. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 14, 2024 9:33:04 GMT 1
Last-minute penalty against Birmingham to secure a second win in a row?
Not going to happen, is it?
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 14, 2024 11:31:22 GMT 1
For what it's worth, this season...
HTAFC = 1 penalty
Rovrum = 1 penalty
Wendies = 0 penalties
For balance...
Leicester = 12 (yes, that's TWELVE!!!)
L666s = 8
Saints = 5
Ipswich = 3
I am convinced that referees look at the bottom end clubs' players as cheats, desperate to win penalties hence all the waving away of appeals and booking players for simulation.
It's almost certain that it's unconscious bias at play here.
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