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Post by griffa on Dec 23, 2023 18:00:40 GMT 1
Another dreadful performance, set up by a clueless Head Coach, please, please, please sack him - UTT.
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 23, 2023 18:01:40 GMT 1
He will say he doesn’t have the players.
I say he is a clueless. If Nagle doesn’t sort this out quickly we are only heading one way.
Shambles.
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Post by theterrier42 on Dec 23, 2023 18:03:50 GMT 1
Don’t know what’s more boring, his press conferences or his football. Get rid. Tonight.
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 23, 2023 18:04:17 GMT 1
So calling someone a twat isn't abuse? He really us a hypocrit Take it the degree didn’t take in diction. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 23, 2023 18:05:09 GMT 1
He will say he doesn’t have the players. I say he is a clueless. If Nagle doesn’t sort this out quickly we are only heading one way. Shambles. The squad needs at least 6 players, we aren’t getting that. So we need a new manager. |
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Post by benroberts on Dec 23, 2023 18:06:28 GMT 1
Lads, I think we need someone with fire fighting qualities, a man manager who really knows how to get the most out of a limited squad, who specialises in lost causes. Someone in the mold of, say, Neil Warnock.
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Post by crux on Dec 23, 2023 18:06:41 GMT 1
Needs to go now, don't bother wasting any more time. I was happy to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the team selection and performance of the Preston game was the deciding factor for me.
He hasn't learnt anything from the games at all. Yes we have a crap squad, short of proper full backs, or real wing backs and not a decent striker on the books. Our best performances have come from a 3-4-3 / 5-4-1 formation where we've covered the width with 2 players on both sides. However, he insists on playing 5-3-2 with wing backs who are isolated all the time, no matter who he selects. It's for too easy to play against us and we waste a player up front who does bugger all. Last week Ward, today Sorba.
At least I don't have to buy my brother-in-law a ticket for Tuesday, my mate and his lad have just both offered me theirs as they can't be bothered to go!
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Dec 23, 2023 18:08:34 GMT 1
He will say he doesn’t have the players. I say he is a clueless. If Nagle doesn’t sort this out quickly we are only heading one way. Shambles. The squad needs at least 6 players, we aren’t getting that. So we need a new manager. Even if we were promised 6 players, I wouldn’t trust DM (or potentially Cartwright) to deliver any one of note. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 23, 2023 18:09:17 GMT 1
I don’t think he’s been good, however I do think he’s been dealt a tough gig, but it’s football, shit happens then it sometimes gets better then shit usually happens again, as I’ve said previously we’ve had a diet of pragmatic football since Wagner, I’m prepared to give him some time and I certainly aren’t stressing out about football, there are more important issues than abusing a person trying his best to do a job. Some of the stuff on here about Moore is beyond pathetic ,imo. How long are you prepared to give him PT? Genuine question I don’t like sacking people for the sake of it, in his defence what can you do with no strikers, and having to play Hudlin, in my time watching Town, 60 years, I’m struggling with anyone worse, I’m now having a mini Sagres in a dark room. |
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Post by conman on Dec 23, 2023 18:10:05 GMT 1
Needs to go now, don't bother wasting any more time. I was happy to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the team selection and performance of the Preston game was the deciding factor for me. He hasn't learnt anything from the games at all. Yes we have a crap squad, short of proper full backs, or real wing backs and not a decent striker on the books. Our best performances have come from a 3-4-3 / 5-4-1 formation where we've covered the width with 2 players on both sides. However, he insists on playing 5-3-2 with wing backs who are isolated all the time, no matter who he selects. It's for too easy to play against us and we waste a player up front who does bugger all. Last week Ward, today Sorba. At least I don't have to buy my brother-in-law a ticket for Tuesday, my mate and his lad have just both offered me theirs as they can't be bothered to go! Is that your Christmas present to him ? |
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Post by ambryboy on Dec 23, 2023 18:11:18 GMT 1
Now now let's not be hasty, is one third of a season enough time to judge if something isn't working?  |
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Post by crux on Dec 23, 2023 18:12:54 GMT 1
Needs to go now, don't bother wasting any more time. I was happy to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the team selection and performance of the Preston game was the deciding factor for me. He hasn't learnt anything from the games at all. Yes we have a crap squad, short of proper full backs, or real wing backs and not a decent striker on the books. Our best performances have come from a 3-4-3 / 5-4-1 formation where we've covered the width with 2 players on both sides. However, he insists on playing 5-3-2 with wing backs who are isolated all the time, no matter who he selects. It's for too easy to play against us and we waste a player up front who does bugger all. Last week Ward, today Sorba. At least I don't have to buy my brother-in-law a ticket for Tuesday, my mate and his lad have just both offered me theirs as they can't be bothered to go! Is that your Christmas present to him ? No, I've bought him something decent 🤣 I have repeatedly asked 'Are you sure you want to come?'. He doesn't have to, he staying with my other sister and could watch TV in the warmth, or even sit outside in the cold and rain, it would be much better! |
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 23, 2023 18:13:44 GMT 1
The squad needs at least 6 players, we aren’t getting that. So we need a new manager. Even if we were promised 6 players, I wouldn’t trust DM (or potentially Cartwright) to deliver any one of note. DM won’t be picking individual players.It’s a team according to Cartwright. |
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Post by davethesprout on Dec 23, 2023 18:22:59 GMT 1
He will say he doesn’t have the players. I say he is a clueless. If Nagle doesn’t sort this out quickly we are only heading one way. Shambles. He has lost the players & the dressing room He has more importantly LOST THE FANS ! , we are the club , and are starting to wonder why this takeover was a good idea , or Nagle was the right man & Stoke fans gave us a good idea , what to expect with Cartwright ! . The summer transfer window was a friging SHAMBLES ! NAGLE ! .Whe have to blame everybody , including Warnock , for this ! . i have never seen us so short of attacking ideas ( in any team since 1959 ) the fall out with Warnock was indeed , childish , stupid , & more important . could well see us Relegated , as a result .Get back to USA ! your choice of management team is awful |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Dec 23, 2023 18:24:54 GMT 1
Look at the state of these stats.
Nearly 50 consecutive minutes of zero attacking pressure.
GET. HIM. GONE.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Dec 23, 2023 18:28:11 GMT 1
Can't believe any decent championship quality player would want to come to us if they have seen us play. We'll just end up with players no-one else wants unless we are throwing silly money at them.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Dec 23, 2023 18:30:06 GMT 1
I am not buying the “we cannot get anybody better arguement”.
We are not dead and buried yet despite Moores best efforts. Nagle has said there will be investment in January. You offer a good manager enough of a wedge to get a few decent players and there will be takers.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Dec 23, 2023 18:33:32 GMT 1
Can't believe any decent championship quality player would want to come to us if they have seen us play. We'll just end up with players no-one else wants unless we are throwing silly money at them. And this to me is going to be the biggest issue. Who would want to come join us in a relegation scrap? The problem is we are getting less desirable week to week. We need to get shut ASAP get a new man and coaches in. New ideas. |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Dec 23, 2023 18:34:34 GMT 1
I am not buying the “we cannot get anybody better arguement”. We are not dead and buried yet despite Moores best efforts. Nagle has said there will be investment in January. You offer a good manager enough of a wedge to get a few decent players and there will be takers. Exactly. Sheffield Wednesday were adrift and managed to attract Germany’s former assistant manager. Plenty of talented coaches want to work at this level. |
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Post by ACW on Dec 23, 2023 18:35:56 GMT 1
I always give managers a chance, but I won't be disappointed if Moore is sacked. He has a frankly shite squad to work with, but he isn't helping himself at all.
That said, if anyone thinks someone else will have this squad of players playing attacking football and getting results, they are living in cloud cuckooland
Despite the rewriting of history by some, most of the football played under Warnock was defensive and frankly shite to watch. Warnock has that ability to get results with limited players - and our players are extremely limited! - but let's not kid ourselves, the football under him was largely shite to watch too. The results, particularly at the end of last season, covered that up.
Perhaps we need a new coach with new ideas, but more than anything we need better players. We were fortunate to have Warnock last season to work a miracle, but we can't keep expecting our managers to work miracles. They need decent players!
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Post by Uddersfield on Dec 23, 2023 18:42:46 GMT 1
Warnock made us competitive with more or less the same team. We can’t go into every game defensively for fuck sake. It’s a shambles.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Dec 23, 2023 18:43:19 GMT 1
I always give managers a chance, but I won't be disappointed if Moore is sacked. He has a frankly shite squad to work with, but he isn't helping himself at all. That said, if anyone thinks someone else will have this squad of players playing attacking football and getting results, they are living in cloud cuckooland Despite the rewriting of history by some, most of the football played under Warnock was defensive and frankly shite to watch. Warnock has that ability to get results with limited players - and our players are extremely limited! - but let's not kid ourselves, the football under him was largely shite to watch too. The results, particularly at the end of last season, covered that up. Perhaps we need a new coach with new ideas, but more than anything we need better players. We were fortunate to have Warnock last season to work a miracle, but we can't keep expecting our managers to work miracles. They need decent players! You’re right in that the squad is shite but also this is a results game. Town could be playing boring football but if they were cruising at the top of league nobody would complain. Hence why nobody complained back end of last season when Warnock got the results. You are right though regards the squad, it is abysmal. I don’t believe it is a reason to keep Moore however. |
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Post by ACW on Dec 23, 2023 18:46:48 GMT 1
Warnock made us competitive with more or less the same team. We can’t go into every game defensively for fuck sake. It’s a shambles. Warnock worked a miracle. Is it realistic to expect our managers to work miracles all the time? That is not a defence if Moore, but we can't expect our managers to polish turds every season. Eventually, poor recruitment will catch up with you. And our recruitment has been generally terrible recently. |
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Post by Blueblood on Dec 23, 2023 18:51:08 GMT 1
The best Christmas present anyone should wish for is town to sack the clown.
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Post by Uddersfield on Dec 23, 2023 18:55:24 GMT 1
Warnock made us competitive with more or less the same team. We can’t go into every game defensively for fuck sake. It’s a shambles. Warnock worked a miracle. Is it realistic to expect our managers to work miracles all the time? That is not a defence if Moore, but we can't expect our managers to polish turds every season. Eventually, poor recruitment will catch up with you. And our recruitment has been generally terrible recently. Right.. but we got rid of a manager that was polishing turds to a manager that’s adding extra shit. We all knew the team isn’t good enough but we were making it work until January at least with a manager that relied on team morale etc. But then we’ve just gone thrown it straight into Blackmoorfoot Res. |
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Post by detox on Dec 23, 2023 19:16:11 GMT 1
The blase' attitude of the club to this is ridiculous..."I'm popping over in january to have a chat", from the owner..as chaos continues to reign...perfromances continue to be pathetic , the manager remains clueless and fans getting increasingly angry...
Why no pop over NOW and DEAL WITH IT NOW....
It needs ACTION now, not next month, ...we need a plan sorted before the t/f window opens and that excludes Moore.
ffs wake up !
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Post by willo on Dec 23, 2023 19:16:40 GMT 1
How long are you prepared to give him PT? Genuine question I don’t like sacking people for the sake of it, in his defence what can you do with no strikers, and having to play Hudlin, in my time watching Town, 60 years, I’m struggling with anyone worse, I’m now having a mini Sagres in a dark room. For the sake of it? Look at the facts. We are awful to watch, we set up defensively and once inevitably concede have no Plan B, we are dropping like a stone, Moore’s win rate is laughably bad, fans are staying away in ever greater numbers. I could go on. The ONLY positive I see at the moment is that there are presently 3 worse teams than us although god only knows how and for how much longer. He simply has to go one way or another. It’s dreadful with absolutely no sign of things improving. |
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Post by mightyterrier on Dec 23, 2023 19:18:21 GMT 1
How long are you prepared to give him PT? Genuine question I don’t like sacking people for the sake of it, in his defence what can you do with no strikers, and having to play Hudlin, in my time watching Town, 60 years, I’m struggling with anyone worse, I’m now having a mini Sagres in a dark room. Sacking someone for the sake of it? He’s worth keeping according to you because…. He’s been dealt a bad hand… |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Dec 23, 2023 19:18:49 GMT 1
The blase' attitude of the club to this is ridiculous..."I'm popping over in january to have a chat", from the owner..as chaos continues to reign...perfromances continue to be pathetic , the manager remains clueless and fans getting increasingly angry... Why no pop over NOW and DEAL WITH IT NOW.... It needs ACTION now, not next month, ...we need a plan sorted before the t/f window opens and that excludes Moore. ffs wake up ! I agree Detox. But these are the same people who allowed us to go into a season with the weakest forward options in the league so I’m not holding my breath. |
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Post by tonytiler on Dec 23, 2023 19:19:07 GMT 1
I say he needs sacking I just don't think our owner will do it because its going to make him and his Directors look pillocks.Its up to him at the end of the day he either wants a competitive championship club or,one that will be plying it's trade in the 3rd tier of English football because that exactly were all this is going to end up unfortunately.
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