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Post by bblueterrier on Dec 23, 2023 20:51:08 GMT 1
The ice is getting thinner... BIG week coming up.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 23, 2023 20:53:14 GMT 1
I think Kevin Nagle could do worse than appoint Dean Hoyle in some kind of advisor role, albeit I'm sure there is some sort of unofficial advice already in place. Somebody who loves the club, understands the game and knows how to make the tough decisions. Given his own money isn't involved I think Dean could be a reasonable voice. Did you miss his decision making since his illness ? |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 23, 2023 20:53:14 GMT 1
We have recently played Preston and today Norwich. Both have conceded the most goals this season apart from Rotherham. We struggled to even test their defences.
We have recently played Millwall, Preston, Bristol City and Swansea; until today, all 4 were below us in the form table yet we set up 'not to lose'.
We have all attacking players back from injury for the last 4 games, barring Ward today; where is the attacking football Moore apparently plays?
At first the excuse was, Bergzorg, Koroma, Rudoni are all out so we can't play it yet. They are all back, it is yet to be seen.
For the past 3 seasons, we have been fantastic attacking and defending set pieces. Why on earth has our main strength now become something to be tampered with?
Why does our manager, look motionless and bored on the touchline when at times it has needed some motivation or enthusiasm to get the players going; or at least do something that makes you look remotely interested.
It is going to be the same old cycle if they don't have the bottle to sack him.
Jan budget will be spent on Moores players, he will get the sack in Feb and then yet again, a window wasted as a new man comes in, with players brought in by Moore.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 23, 2023 20:55:02 GMT 1
Interesting how quiet the oracle castlehillterrier is this evening. Good luck bullshitting your way out of this one. Think you’ll find he’s busy. You think castlehillterrier is Father Christmas ? |
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 23, 2023 20:55:54 GMT 1
One thing is the fan base are fairly united in wanting Moore out and also Cartwright.
I fear defeat on Boxing Day and it will turn even more toxic. How sad we find ourselves in this situation yet again. As much as I moan I would love to just see us win a football match.
Sad times.
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Post by waggers on Dec 23, 2023 21:01:37 GMT 1
Interesting how quiet the oracle castlehillterrier is this evening. Good luck bullshitting your way out of this one. There were a few seemingly ecstatic, more or less gloating when it was 0-0 at half time. |
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Post by frankyb on Dec 23, 2023 21:01:56 GMT 1
The ice is getting thinner... BIG week coming up. It's been about 12° today. but the fan temperature is at boiling point. I think the ice has well and truly melted now and the sitting duck moore has well and truly drowned. Kev needs to send a Xmas message and present to all the town fans, that such poor performance will not be tolerated at Huddersfield and take action to get a head start in January. |
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Post by waggers on Dec 23, 2023 21:05:56 GMT 1
One thing is the fan base are fairly united in wanting Moore out and also Cartwright. I fear defeat on Boxing Day and it will turn even more toxic. How sad we find ourselves in this situation yet again. As much as I moan I would love to just see us win a football match. Sad times. It's worse because 99% of us saw this coming a mile off. How on earth can you be employed on good money at this club and make the decisions they've made? Aside from a few posters we knew this was going to be the end result. |
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Post by ambryboy on Dec 23, 2023 21:12:37 GMT 1
Think you’ll find he’s busy. You think castlehillterrier is Father Christmas ? Probably driving the team bus home. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Dec 23, 2023 21:13:08 GMT 1
One thing is the fan base are fairly united in wanting Moore out and also Cartwright. I fear defeat on Boxing Day and it will turn even more toxic. How sad we find ourselves in this situation yet again. As much as I moan I would love to just see us win a football match. Sad times. It's worse because 99% of us saw this coming a mile off. How on earth can you be employed on good money at this club and make the decisions they've made. Aside from a few posters we knew this was going to be the end result. We did. As usual I got dogs abuse for pointing it out. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 23, 2023 21:21:40 GMT 1
The ice is getting thinner... BIG week coming up. If you work for town, have a direct line to Nagle and co- tell them to get shut for god sake. 2 wins in what 16 games- no other club would stand for that regardless of injuries. |
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Post by mightyterrier on Dec 23, 2023 21:25:05 GMT 1
It's worse because 99% of us saw this coming a mile off. How on earth can you be employed on good money at this club and make the decisions they've made. Aside from a few posters we knew this was going to be the end result. We did. As usual I got dogs abuse for pointing it out. I told you so, yawn |
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Post by harris on Dec 23, 2023 21:34:33 GMT 1
It's worse because 99% of us saw this coming a mile off. How on earth can you be employed on good money at this club and make the decisions they've made. Aside from a few posters we knew this was going to be the end result. We did. As usual I got dogs abuse for pointing it out. I think you got ‘dogs abuse’ because of the way you were pointing it out, rather than the point you were making. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 23, 2023 21:35:05 GMT 1
We have recently played Preston and today Norwich. Both have conceded the most goals this season apart from Rotherham. We struggled to even test their defences. We have recently played Millwall, Preston, Bristol City and Swansea; until today, all 4 were below us in the form table yet we set up 'not to lose'. We have all attacking players back from injury for the last 4 games, barring Ward today; where is the attacking football Moore apparently plays? At first the excuse was, Bergzorg, Koroma, Rudoni are all out so we can't play it yet. They are all back, it is yet to be seen. For the past 3 seasons, we have been fantastic attacking and defending set pieces. Why on earth has our main strength now become something to be tampered with? Why does our manager, look motionless and bored on the touchline when at times it has needed some motivation or enthusiasm to get the players going; or at least do something that makes you look remotely interested. It is going to be the same old cycle if they don't have the bottle to sack him. Jan budget will be spent on Moores players, he will get the sack in Feb and then yet again, a window wasted as a new man comes in, with players brought in by Moore. What you have written is frightening but so true. |
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Post by Uddersfield on Dec 23, 2023 21:36:14 GMT 1
The ice is getting thinner... BIG week coming up. Must win in Boxing Day then? |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 23, 2023 21:36:47 GMT 1
I just feel at the mo, its like having an ainmal, who needs putting down. The longer Town take to sack Moore , then its like insluting both the fans and Moore. Moore probs knows he is out of his depth, yet wont quit, due to saving face. Town for god sake, but the poor guy out of his misery.
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Post by King Neil on Dec 23, 2023 21:41:27 GMT 1
They will leave it too late and sadly we will go down
To do so would mean the regime admitting they have made mistakes
Now has anyone Ever heard of an American apologising about anything?
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 23, 2023 21:46:14 GMT 1
I just feel at the mo, its like having an ainmal, who needs putting down. The longer Town take to sack Moore , then its like insluting both the fans and Moore. Moore probs knows he is out of his depth, yet wont quit, due to saving face. Town for god sake, but the poor guy out of his misery. God but ainmal. Shocking effort |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 23, 2023 21:47:43 GMT 1
Just get Mowbray before someone else does. Hanging on any longer isn't going to help our season
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 23, 2023 21:48:09 GMT 1
I just feel at the mo, its like having an ainmal, who needs putting down. The longer Town take to sack Moore , then its like insluting both the fans and Moore. Moore probs knows he is out of his depth, yet wont quit, due to saving face. Town for god sake, but the poor guy out of his misery. God but ainmal. Shocking effort No i mean its like a dead man walking or something, why don't town put him out of his misery- its not going to get better and i think everyone at the club knows it. |
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Post by wigster on Dec 23, 2023 21:50:21 GMT 1
I think Kevin Nagle could do worse than appoint Dean Hoyle in some kind of advisor role, albeit I'm sure there is some sort of unofficial advice already in place. Somebody who loves the club, understands the game and knows how to make the tough decisions. Given his own money isn't involved I think Dean could be a reasonable voice. Did you miss his decision making since his illness ? As he's the architect of so many of our woes, I wouldn't want him anywhere near any decisions. |
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Post by Floyds on Dec 23, 2023 21:51:09 GMT 1
He’s useless and needs to go. He has not one redeeming feature. A complete non entity.
What’s the argument for keeping him - aside from “can we afford to”?
Does anyone see him turning this round, and if so, on what basis?
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 23, 2023 21:52:24 GMT 1
God but ainmal. Shocking effort No i mean its like a dead man walking or something, why don't town put him out of his misery- its not going to get better and i think everyone at the club knows it. Whoosh! |
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Post by H7 on Dec 23, 2023 22:17:28 GMT 1
There can’t be another club who have made such consistently poor managerial appointments over the last 5 years. Take Corberan out who we let walk out the door because DH wouldn’t give him £2m for Carlton Morris who then proceeded to get Luton promoted and Warnock who was only here because of yet another shit appointment. It’s an absolute shambles how we’re somehow arguably in worse shape than we were when we came up from league 1 and so frustrating that we’ve gambled on so many completely unnecessary cheap options that the vast majority of fans knew were a disaster waiting to happen from day 1. Had a season ticket for 22 years and haven’t felt this apathetic about town in my entire life. Massive job for Nagle to turn this around.
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Post by waggers on Dec 23, 2023 22:18:40 GMT 1
He’s useless and needs to go. He has not one redeeming feature. A complete non entity. What’s the argument for keeping him - aside from “can we afford to”? Does anyone see him turning this round, and if so, on what basis? The usual argument is 'who do you think we could get who's better?'. I created a list for Portugal Terrier when he asked me that. I mentioned Wilder (I know his stock wasn't high at the time, but still...), he wasn't a better option than Moore apparently. Some fans have a very low opinion of their own club, it's almost like we should be grateful that anyone would even want to be our manager. |
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Post by specialun on Dec 23, 2023 22:21:47 GMT 1
What are we trying to do defending set pieces
4 man marking and the rest zonal?
I’ve struggled to work out watching aside from we usually have all our players back in the box
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Dec 23, 2023 22:30:05 GMT 1
Nagle is still getting used to English football, he holds no blame yet for me. Edwards knows the sport, Cartwright has no excuses at all. If Moore goes, Cartwright should too, but we know how these thing pan out - Moore will be the fall guy, the shield for those who made a poor decision. They’ll be then free to make another poor decision potentially. I really wanted and still want Moore’s appointment to work, but increasingly it looks like it won’t. That fat Cartwright is the one to blame on this appointment for sure, Edwards too. Can’t really blame nagle He does however need to pull the trigger on this appointment |
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Post by belizian on Dec 23, 2023 22:30:25 GMT 1
I don't see the point in removing him right now. I'm not sure KN can trust Cartwright and Edwards to appoint someone new at this time.
KN needs to come over and speak to the senior players and get honest opinions from them. Would also be handy, if he's still speaking to NW, to ask his opinion.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 23, 2023 22:45:54 GMT 1
I don't see the point in removing him right now. I'm not sure KN can trust Cartwright and Edwards to appoint someone new at this time. KN needs to come over and speak to the senior players and get honest opinions from them. Would also be handy, if he's still speaking to NW, to ask his opinion. I think the results are speaking for themselves belizian. |
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Post by softboy on Dec 23, 2023 22:52:36 GMT 1
It’s going to be very hard to break into the bottom 3. Wednesday, QPR , Rotherham don’t seem keen to give up there places.
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