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Post by Detective Boyle on Dec 19, 2023 13:45:24 GMT 1
The problem is that our powers that be thought, so naively, that we were in a position of strength. A strong squad and maybe you can carry a manager with no tactical mindset, whose strength is to galvanise spirit.
As it happens, we had a poor quality squad that needed someone tactically astute, a Corberan or a Warnock, to be able to squeeze every ounce out of the players. It was a shocking appointment really and one that made absolutely no sense.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Dec 19, 2023 13:45:54 GMT 1
You can't fool players that have been in the game as long as some of ours have. They saw straight through MF and they see straight through this guy and his crayon eatingly primitive methods. Times running out. Appreciate you are in the know in some capacity however, 'Times running out' is stating the obvious, 2 wins in 14 and sinking towards the drop zone anybody can figure out time is running out. |
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Post by 28901 on Dec 19, 2023 13:46:30 GMT 1
He's not the messiah  I’ve seen this before that NW had been doing something he shouldn’t have been however nobody seems to know what? Anybody know or is it a load of tosh? Usually hinted at by those who pretend to be in the know, or like to make out they are connected somehow to the club. Cowardly, anonymous liars and wums generally. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Dec 19, 2023 13:58:18 GMT 1
Not saying you are wrong, Moore has done absolutely nothing to impress me. But how do "crayon eatingly primitive methods" get 96 points in L1? How do they get Donny in the hunt for the championship? West Brom at least punching their weight. I'm fairly convinced he's crap tbh, but Fotheringham isn't doing any of the above. It doesn't quite add up. He's a manager that relies on building a team spirit...and having a bigger budget and better players than the opposition. Tactically he's always been hopeless and anyone who's played under him will tell you that. Probably. 96 points is still a lot though…and it doesn’t look like the Sheff Wed squad was that good really. I’m playing devils advocate really. If you said he was off I’d be pleased regardless of what sounds like me defending him. |
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Post by mosher on Dec 19, 2023 14:02:43 GMT 1
He's not the messiah I’ve seen this before that NW had been doing something he shouldn’t have been however nobody seems to know what? Anybody know or is it a load of tosh? No clue mate I'm not itk one little bit. Should I have put (c) Life Of Brian?  |
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Post by portugalterrier on Dec 19, 2023 14:10:33 GMT 1
You can’t legally give someone a 3 year contract with a three month notice clause, it says 3 years for a reason , it’s 3 years, unless the incumbent breaks a contract condition, ie theft, corruption, illegality etc. Its not a fixed term contract, its a maximum term contract, and of course its possible to have termination clauses that don't result in the full 3 year term having to be paid out. Look up "T for C". But not usually in football managers contracts, unless the “ new manager” is desperate for the job, and that’s info from a Sports Management Co. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Dec 19, 2023 14:18:14 GMT 1
He's a manager that relies on building a team spirit...and having a bigger budget and better players than the opposition. Tactically he's always been hopeless and anyone who's played under him will tell you that. Probably. 96 points is still a lot though…and it doesn’t look like the Sheff Wed squad was that good really. I’m playing devils advocate really. If you said he was off I’d be pleased regardless of what sounds like me defending him. I know what you're saying and I expected him to have much more about him with his record, but he's miles off it at this level. Should really be plying his trade in lg2 but here he is. Take Barry Bannan out of their team last season and they struggle to make the play offs - any clued up Wednesday fan would agree. |
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Post by DuffMan on Dec 19, 2023 14:19:44 GMT 1
Probably. 96 points is still a lot though…and it doesn’t look like the Sheff Wed squad was that good really. I’m playing devils advocate really. If you said he was off I’d be pleased regardless of what sounds like me defending him. I know what you're saying and I expected him to have much more about him with his record, but he's miles off it at this level. Should really be plying his trade in lg2 but here he is. Take Barry Bannan out of their team last season and they struggle to make the play offs - any clued up Wednesday fan would agree. Didn't wednesday have the biggest budget in the division though. |
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Post by mosher on Dec 19, 2023 14:19:59 GMT 1
Probably. 96 points is still a lot though…and it doesn’t look like the Sheff Wed squad was that good really. I’m playing devils advocate really. If you said he was off I’d be pleased regardless of what sounds like me defending him. I know what you're saying and I expected him to have much more about him with his record, but he's miles off it at this level. Should really be plying his trade in lg2 but here he is. Take Barry Bannan out of their team last season and they struggle to make the play offs - any clued up Wednesday fan would agree. Bit of an oxymoron that |
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Post by Maynardblue on Dec 19, 2023 14:29:12 GMT 1
I know what you're saying and I expected him to have much more about him with his record, but he's miles off it at this level. Should really be plying his trade in lg2 but here he is. Take Barry Bannan out of their team last season and they struggle to make the play offs - any clued up Wednesday fan would agree. Didn't wednesday have the biggest budget in the division though. They did. |
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Post by sonny on Dec 19, 2023 14:32:04 GMT 1
How could anyone have interviewed him and been impressed?
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Post by DuffMan on Dec 19, 2023 14:32:42 GMT 1
Let's hope they bin Darren off before it is too late, even then would any fan have confidence in this Cartwright fella picking the next one?
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 19, 2023 14:37:33 GMT 1
How could anyone have interviewed him and been impressed? A rush to get NW out the door? This idea that he was in such demand that he had to be tied down is just laughable. |
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Post by royrace on Dec 19, 2023 14:42:05 GMT 1
He's a manager that relies on building a team spirit...and having a bigger budget and better players than the opposition. Tactically he's always been hopeless and anyone who's played under him will tell you that. Probably. 96 points is still a lot though…and it doesn’t look like the Sheff Wed squad was that good really. I’m playing devils advocate really. If you said he was off I’d be pleased regardless of what sounds like me defending him. I saw a few of their games last season and they didn't seem to have any real style of play, just better players than the opposition and of course Bannan. Reminded me a bit of our team under Lee Clark. Your wouldn't want him managing a championship side with an inferior squad either. What's worrying is that the guy making our football decisions and the only one with any experience or knowledge of this league and English football thought he'd be a good shout. Baffling. |
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Post by RickDangerous on Dec 19, 2023 14:43:23 GMT 1
Probably. 96 points is still a lot though…and it doesn’t look like the Sheff Wed squad was that good really. I’m playing devils advocate really. If you said he was off I’d be pleased regardless of what sounds like me defending him. I know what you're saying and I expected him to have much more about him with his record, but he's miles off it at this level. Should really be plying his trade in lg2 but here he is. Take Barry Bannan out of their team last season and they struggle to make the play offs - any clued up Wednesday fan would agree. I was having the exact same conversations when he came in. He's made me look a right idiot, thanks Darren  . |
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Post by royrace on Dec 19, 2023 14:46:43 GMT 1
I’ve seen this before that NW had been doing something he shouldn’t have been however nobody seems to know what? Anybody know or is it a load of tosh? Usually hinted at by those who pretend to be in the know, or like to make out they are connected somehow to the club. Cowardly, anonymous liars and wums generally. I suspect it's Chinese whispers probably started by people trying to justify themselves and maybe people who had clashed with NW. I suspect if there's anything at all it's nowhere near as serious as some on here are trying to make out. Pretty low really trying to tarnish someone's reputation without a shred of evidence. Seems to be the norm these days. |
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Post by prepare on Dec 19, 2023 14:54:56 GMT 1
Usually hinted at by those who pretend to be in the know, or like to make out they are connected somehow to the club. Cowardly, anonymous liars and wums generally. I suspect it's Chinese whispers probably started by people trying to justify themselves and maybe people who had clashed with NW. I suspect if there's anything at all it's nowhere near as serious as some on here are trying to make out. Pretty low really trying to tarnish someone's reputation without a shred of evidence. Seems to be the norm these days. there good at that on here!! |
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 19, 2023 15:20:04 GMT 1
Its not a fixed term contract, its a maximum term contract, and of course its possible to have termination clauses that don't result in the full 3 year term having to be paid out. Look up "T for C". But not usually in football managers contracts, unless the “ new manager” is desperate for the job, and that’s info from a Sports Management Co. Info from law chambers who negotiate football managers contracts is that it happens in almost ALL cases that a managers contract will have liquidated damages and/or other termination clauses written in, which would always amount to less than a simple pay-out of the mentioned outstanding maximum contract term. Remember also that the statutory right to appeal an unfair dismissal only applies after 2 years - so it's in the managers interest to agree in advance exit terms, even if they seem unfavourable compared to your made up scenario where they get paid for the full outstanding term! |
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Post by mosher on Dec 19, 2023 15:24:43 GMT 1
But not usually in football managers contracts, unless the “ new manager” is desperate for the job, and that’s info from a Sports Management Co. Info from law chambers who negotiate football managers contracts is that it happens in almost ALL cases that a managers contract will have liquidated damages and/or other termination clauses written in, which would always amount to less than a simple pay-out of the mentioned outstanding maximum contract term. Remember also that the statutory right to appeal an unfair dismissal only applies after 2 years - so it's in the managers interest to agree in advance exit terms, even if they seem unfavourable compared to your made up scenario where they get paid for the full outstanding term! 2 years? I got told 1 year by ACAS when I contacted them about my last employers. Or is it dependent on the industry you're in? |
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Post by 2ellandback on Dec 19, 2023 15:37:23 GMT 1
Now Maynard has given an update on DM get ready for the ‘in the know’ posters to start changing their narrative.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 19, 2023 15:47:04 GMT 1
You can’t legally give someone a 3 year contract with a three month notice clause, it says 3 years for a reason , it’s 3 years, unless the incumbent breaks a contract condition, ie theft, corruption, illegality etc. Its not a fixed term contract, its a maximum term contract, and of course its possible to have termination clauses that don't result in the full 3 year term having to be paid out. Look up "T for C". Listening to some sacked managers on podcasts I am pretty sure they have said they normally get a year's pay. Never the full contract. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 19, 2023 15:48:32 GMT 1
You can't fool players that have been in the game as long as some of ours have. They saw straight through MF and they see straight through this guy and his crayon eatingly primitive methods. and the coaching staff ! |
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Post by runner76 on Dec 19, 2023 15:51:50 GMT 1
Now Maynard has given an update on DM get ready for the ‘in the know’ posters to start changing their narrative. worrying what Maynard is saying..........well, maybe not worrying, if true, you would hope and assume Moore will be out soon..... |
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Post by kjf on Dec 19, 2023 15:54:46 GMT 1
Don't think he will make it to January
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Post by 2ellandback on Dec 19, 2023 15:57:05 GMT 1
Cooper sacked.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Dec 19, 2023 16:18:23 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 19, 2023 16:23:06 GMT 1
For him to come to Huddersfield would require money, ambition and a clear vision. And him to promise to wear a welding helmet |
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Post by mosher on Dec 19, 2023 16:24:05 GMT 1
For him to come to Huddersfield would require money, ambition and a clear vision. I'm not sure I'd want him. How much money and how many players have they signed. And they're still shit. I know there was probably interference from above with the purchases made, but I'm not sure I'd trust him with a threadbare squad like ours. |
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Post by leroy212 on Dec 19, 2023 16:45:15 GMT 1
You can't fool players that have been in the game as long as some of ours have. They saw straight through MF and they see straight through this guy and his crayon eatingly primitive methods. your not a fan then? |
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Post by Maynardblue on Dec 19, 2023 16:58:43 GMT 1
You can't fool players that have been in the game as long as some of ours have. They saw straight through MF and they see straight through this guy and his crayon eatingly primitive methods. your not a fan then? I'm sure he's a lovely fella. But business is business and we're suffering too much to pussy foot around |
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