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Post by Big Ern on Dec 16, 2023 10:07:42 GMT 1
There has to come a stage where there are bigger impacts beyond results on the pitch in keeping a manager that is turning fans away in their droves.
At some stage marketing and advertising will be affected, I mean who wants to advertise their product into a less than half empty stadium?
Season ticket sales will without a doubt be impacted which comes also at a monetary cost. Another shit performance today and he has to go for me.
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Post by digs on Dec 16, 2023 10:37:03 GMT 1
Just watched Moores debut interview at Town,,he was quite excited about our dynamic Group when he heard the interviewer mention how our strongest attribute is our attacking intent,the signs were there, he sounded clueless from the beginning,a few month later we have a couple of defenders and a midfielder injured and weve hardly seen the ball since,
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Dec 16, 2023 10:41:42 GMT 1
Q. Should Warnock have been relieved of his duties? A. No, so far as the majority of supporters were concerned as he was getting the best out of this group of players as any manager likely could get. Still not sure why he was let go if I’m being honest, lots of smoke and mirror play from some but nothing substantiated. Q. Was Darren Moore the right replacement? A. Not for me and I’ve said this right from the start. Q. Should Moore still be the Town manager? A. Plenty have better records and have still been shown the door, personally can’t understand why he’s still in the role. I really don’t want him still here come January 1st and being involved with any recruitment in the transfer window. Q. Are you that dead set against Moore that you’d happily see Town lose at Millwall to hasten the move to fire him? A. Not for me as I don’t think a desire to see the removal of any manager should be above us getting a win. Q. Has he been poorly treated by Town supporters both in the stands and on social media? A. His match day “tactics” and incoherent press conferences certainly haven’t endeared him to the Town faithful and for this, Moore only has himself to blame however some of the comments on social media have gone too far and been too personal. Crowds do what crowds do, you either voice your displeasure at the state of things or you vote with your feet which many are now doing. Q. Any sympathy for the current manager’s plight? A. Some, but not much. We have had injuries which has only served to highlight how ridiculously light we are on experienced Championship players although the previous manager was doing ok. Coming in and trying to change the style of play was stupid and especially so when you don’t have the calibre of player to play out from the back, etc. Warnock saw this and went back to basics. Q. Where next? A. Lose to Millwall and you simply have to think Moore will be gone. An unexpected win or a draw and he at least hangs on for another week further prolonging the agony as I think he’s a dead man walking now. I don’t necessarily blame Kevin Nagle for any of this bar the daft tweet he sent out after the Norwich game which was completely unnecessary, it’s the 2 below who thought Moore was a good option who need to get their act together. Whoever is manager, we will need a strong January window - Nagle been in town for the month is a plus - and any excuses/reasons for not spending some money on quality recruits a la ffp need dispelling. Did you just interview yourself?
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Dec 16, 2023 11:25:17 GMT 1
Q. Should Warnock have been relieved of his duties? A. No, so far as the majority of supporters were concerned as he was getting the best out of this group of players as any manager likely could get. Still not sure why he was let go if I’m being honest, lots of smoke and mirror play from some but nothing substantiated. Q. Was Darren Moore the right replacement? A. Not for me and I’ve said this right from the start. Q. Should Moore still be the Town manager? A. Plenty have better records and have still been shown the door, personally can’t understand why he’s still in the role. I really don’t want him still here come January 1st and being involved with any recruitment in the transfer window. Q. Are you that dead set against Moore that you’d happily see Town lose at Millwall to hasten the move to fire him? A. Not for me as I don’t think a desire to see the removal of any manager should be above us getting a win. Q. Has he been poorly treated by Town supporters both in the stands and on social media? A. His match day “tactics” and incoherent press conferences certainly haven’t endeared him to the Town faithful and for this, Moore only has himself to blame however some of the comments on social media have gone too far and been too personal. Crowds do what crowds do, you either voice your displeasure at the state of things or you vote with your feet which many are now doing. Q. Any sympathy for the current manager’s plight? A. Some, but not much. We have had injuries which has only served to highlight how ridiculously light we are on experienced Championship players although the previous manager was doing ok. Coming in and trying to change the style of play was stupid and especially so when you don’t have the calibre of player to play out from the back, etc. Warnock saw this and went back to basics. Q. Where next? A. Lose to Millwall and you simply have to think Moore will be gone. An unexpected win or a draw and he at least hangs on for another week further prolonging the agony as I think he’s a dead man walking now. I don’t necessarily blame Kevin Nagle for any of this bar the daft tweet he sent out after the Norwich game which was completely unnecessary, it’s the 2 below who thought Moore was a good option who need to get their act together. Whoever is manager, we will need a strong January window - Nagle been in town for the month is a plus - and any excuses/reasons for not spending some money on quality recruits a la ffp need dispelling. Did you just interview yourself? I did the same this morning but kept answering “no comment” and was frankly annoyed the questions were being put to me
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Post by willo on Dec 16, 2023 11:58:21 GMT 1
Q. Should Warnock have been relieved of his duties? A. No, so far as the majority of supporters were concerned as he was getting the best out of this group of players as any manager likely could get. Still not sure why he was let go if I’m being honest, lots of smoke and mirror play from some but nothing substantiated. Q. Was Darren Moore the right replacement? A. Not for me and I’ve said this right from the start. Q. Should Moore still be the Town manager? A. Plenty have better records and have still been shown the door, personally can’t understand why he’s still in the role. I really don’t want him still here come January 1st and being involved with any recruitment in the transfer window. Q. Are you that dead set against Moore that you’d happily see Town lose at Millwall to hasten the move to fire him? A. Not for me as I don’t think a desire to see the removal of any manager should be above us getting a win. Q. Has he been poorly treated by Town supporters both in the stands and on social media? A. His match day “tactics” and incoherent press conferences certainly haven’t endeared him to the Town faithful and for this, Moore only has himself to blame however some of the comments on social media have gone too far and been too personal. Crowds do what crowds do, you either voice your displeasure at the state of things or you vote with your feet which many are now doing. Q. Any sympathy for the current manager’s plight? A. Some, but not much. We have had injuries which has only served to highlight how ridiculously light we are on experienced Championship players although the previous manager was doing ok. Coming in and trying to change the style of play was stupid and especially so when you don’t have the calibre of player to play out from the back, etc. Warnock saw this and went back to basics. Q. Where next? A. Lose to Millwall and you simply have to think Moore will be gone. An unexpected win or a draw and he at least hangs on for another week further prolonging the agony as I think he’s a dead man walking now. I don’t necessarily blame Kevin Nagle for any of this bar the daft tweet he sent out after the Norwich game which was completely unnecessary, it’s the 2 below who thought Moore was a good option who need to get their act together. Whoever is manager, we will need a strong January window - Nagle been in town for the month is a plus - and any excuses/reasons for not spending some money on quality recruits a la ffp need dispelling. Did you just interview yourself? I make more sense than DM does in his press interviews. Maybe I should them for him?
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Post by willo on Dec 16, 2023 11:59:59 GMT 1
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Post by Ibiza Town on Dec 16, 2023 12:07:00 GMT 1
Q. Should Warnock have been relieved of his duties? A. No, so far as the majority of supporters were concerned as he was getting the best out of this group of players as any manager likely could get. Still not sure why he was let go if I’m being honest, lots of smoke and mirror play from some but nothing substantiated. Q. Was Darren Moore the right replacement? A. Not for me and I’ve said this right from the start. Q. Should Moore still be the Town manager? A. Plenty have better records and have still been shown the door, personally can’t understand why he’s still in the role. I really don’t want him still here come January 1st and being involved with any recruitment in the transfer window. Q. Are you that dead set against Moore that you’d happily see Town lose at Millwall to hasten the move to fire him? A. Not for me as I don’t think a desire to see the removal of any manager should be above us getting a win. Q. Has he been poorly treated by Town supporters both in the stands and on social media? A. His match day “tactics” and incoherent press conferences certainly haven’t endeared him to the Town faithful and for this, Moore only has himself to blame however some of the comments on social media have gone too far and been too personal. Crowds do what crowds do, you either voice your displeasure at the state of things or you vote with your feet which many are now doing. Q. Any sympathy for the current manager’s plight? A. Some, but not much. We have had injuries which has only served to highlight how ridiculously light we are on experienced Championship players although the previous manager was doing ok. Coming in and trying to change the style of play was stupid and especially so when you don’t have the calibre of player to play out from the back, etc. Warnock saw this and went back to basics. Q. Where next? A. Lose to Millwall and you simply have to think Moore will be gone. An unexpected win or a draw and he at least hangs on for another week further prolonging the agony as I think he’s a dead man walking now. I don’t necessarily blame Kevin Nagle for any of this bar the daft tweet he sent out after the Norwich game which was completely unnecessary, it’s the 2 below who thought Moore was a good option who need to get their act together. Whoever is manager, we will need a strong January window - Nagle been in town for the month is a plus - and any excuses/reasons for not spending some money on quality recruits a la ffp need dispelling. Did you just interview yourself? 🤣🤣, good interview though
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Post by goodbet on Dec 16, 2023 12:41:11 GMT 1
poor squad yes, but also poor tactical play isnn't helping him. Warnock for example had better tactics for the squad given. Yes but bringing in the right players could go a long way to make his tactical play work . If we buy the right players I might make a good manager. I doubt that KN will spend that ammount.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Dec 16, 2023 12:58:19 GMT 1
We landed ourselves in a right pickle with Moore and the buck has to stop at Cartwright for that.
Moore's a bang average manager at best - if you combine his decent previous record with his appalling start here.
A bang average manager will take a weak squad down. If we improve the squad in January to a bang average squad then he'll probably keep us up and keep his job.
And, unless we assemble the most fantastic squad next summer, we'll just stay bang average for the foreseeable.
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Post by workshyfop on Dec 16, 2023 13:01:08 GMT 1
Just watched Moores debut interview at Town,,he was quite excited about our dynamic Group when he heard the interviewer mention how our strongest attribute is our attacking intent,the signs were there, he sounded clueless from the beginning,a few month later we have a couple of defenders and a midfielder injured and weve hardly seen the ball since, I didn’t want to post at the time and be unduly negative, but my wife walked in while I was watching it. “Who’s THAT?!” “Er, Darren Moore, the new Town manager.” “Oh no, you’re absolutely fucked.” 😂
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Post by rothwellterrier on Dec 16, 2023 13:24:11 GMT 1
The trouble with paying yet another management teams off, it’s more funds that are directed away from strengthening the squad.
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Post by otterman on Dec 16, 2023 13:26:29 GMT 1
Just watched most of Darren Moore’s pre Millwall interview. Couldn’t quite make it all the way through. Boring is as boring does. File the whole interview under waffle, cliche and bollocks. It’s nowt to do with injuries. Mid December in a harem scarem championship league, what do you expect? The manager earns his dosh when injuries pile up - ref Spurs and Newcastle in the Premier, and Norwich, Southampton and Blackburn in the championship. It is literally impossible to listen to the guy. Makes Fotheringham sound like Bruce Forsyth in his pomp!,
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Post by midlander on Dec 16, 2023 13:48:52 GMT 1
Thing is, we don't have a catalogue of players out injured. Who, other than Rudoni, would offer a tangible positive impact in our ability to hold on to the football? All a smokescreen. He has ten of his strongest 11 available. End of.
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Post by digs on Dec 16, 2023 14:00:34 GMT 1
The trouble with paying yet another management teams off, it’s more funds that are directed away from strengthening the squad. That wont matter if no one turns up to watch
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Dec 16, 2023 14:25:40 GMT 1
Just watched most of Darren Moore’s pre Millwall interview. Couldn’t quite make it all the way through. Boring is as boring does. File the whole interview under waffle, cliche and bollocks. It’s nowt to do with injuries. Mid December in a harem scarem championship league, what do you expect? The manager earns his dosh when injuries pile up - ref Spurs and Newcastle in the Premier, and Norwich, Southampton and Blackburn in the championship. It is literally impossible to listen to the guy. Makes Fotheringham sound like Bruce Forsyth in his pomp!, So much better than last week.....
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Post by dalesterrier on Dec 16, 2023 15:12:10 GMT 1
The trouble with paying yet another management teams off, it’s more funds that are directed away from strengthening the squad. I have absolutely no idea but is it likely that al the payments to previous coaching teams will have been paid off with the takeover? Obviously they'll still be paying NW et al but I'd have thought the new owners wouldn't want to be still paying legacy payments
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Post by morleyterrier on Dec 16, 2023 17:42:56 GMT 1
HOW FUCKING BAD DO THINGS NEED TO GET BEFORE THE CLUB ACTS.
HOW FUCKING BAD?.
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Post by willo on Dec 16, 2023 18:01:03 GMT 1
The late penalty disguises nothing, we are shocking. We’re in an identical place to where we were exactly 12 months ago and once again look like being relegated unless something changes.
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Dec 16, 2023 18:07:54 GMT 1
Cooper will be sacked soon, get him in to try emulate his Forest run the other season. Like we could or would.
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Post by morleyterrier on Dec 16, 2023 18:11:26 GMT 1
The late penalty disguises nothing, we are shocking. We’re in an identical place to where we were exactly 12 months ago and once again look like being relegated unless something changes. And the very Man who could save us again, the Club treat appallingly. Shame on every single one of these c*nts at the Club for their part in this.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Dec 16, 2023 19:00:48 GMT 1
Unfortunately or fortunately I haven't been able to watch the fame or listen to it due to a family gathering. Anything changed re DM? Still not good enough? How was the game?
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Post by Randy Watson on Dec 16, 2023 19:18:37 GMT 1
The late penalty disguises nothing, we are shocking. We’re in an identical place to where we were exactly 12 months ago and once again look like being relegated unless something changes. And the very Man who could save us again, the Club treat appallingly. Shame on every single one of these c*nts at the Club for their part in this. Oh shut up.If you don't know by now how/why your hero left then your even more stupid than you come across on here
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Post by irverino on Dec 16, 2023 19:22:40 GMT 1
Bought himself four more games probably over the festive period, could be a nightmare 10 days with Norwich & Leicester away & likely to be 2 defensive home draws (at best) unless any of them are as poor as QPR & Rotherham were (unlikely)......With Plymouth, QPR & SW in the 1st few weeks of NY we need the 'superstar' signings (& new manager) on day one, if they exist.
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Post by willo on Dec 16, 2023 20:01:08 GMT 1
Bought himself four more games probably over the festive period, could be a nightmare 10 days with Norwich & Leicester away & likely to be 2 defensive home draws (at best) unless any of them are as poor as QPR & Rotherham were (unlikely)......With Plymouth, QPR & SW in the 1st few weeks of NY we need the 'superstar' signings (& new manager) on day one, if they exist. Ridiculous situation. We scrape a draw at Millwall in the final seconds and it probably means DM survives the festive period.
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Post by willo on Dec 16, 2023 20:01:57 GMT 1
And the very Man who could save us again, the Club treat appallingly. Shame on every single one of these c*nts at the Club for their part in this. Oh shut up.If you don't know by now how/why your hero left then your even more stupid than you come across on here Fraid so. Whatever the reasons, NW isn’t returning.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Dec 16, 2023 20:55:23 GMT 1
I’d give Moore the next 3, sack him before Leicester let the caretaker do that game. New manager watching city from the stands ready to take over for a decent run of games starting with Plymouth at home.
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Post by goodbet on Dec 16, 2023 20:55:42 GMT 1
Bought himself four more games probably over the festive period, could be a nightmare 10 days with Norwich & Leicester away & likely to be 2 defensive home draws (at best) unless any of them are as poor as QPR & Rotherham were (unlikely)......With Plymouth, QPR & SW in the 1st few weeks of NY we need the 'superstar' signings (& new manager) on day one, if they exist. Ridiculous situation. We scrape a draw at Millwall in the final seconds and it probably means DM survives the festive period. I doubt it, it is only one persons oppinion. I don't see how a lucky draw could keep him in place for 4 weeks, no matter how poor the team play or how the results go.
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Post by johntheterrier on Dec 16, 2023 20:56:24 GMT 1
Just watched Moores debut interview at Town,,he was quite excited about our dynamic Group when he heard the interviewer mention how our strongest attribute is our attacking intent,the signs were there, he sounded clueless from the beginning,a few month later we have a couple of defenders and a midfielder injured and weve hardly seen the ball since, I didn’t want to post at the time and be unduly negative, but my wife walked in while I was watching it. “Who’s THAT?!” “Er, Darren Moore, the new Town manager.” “Oh no, you’re absolutely fucked.” 😂 Am surprised by her comment, obviously she wasn't impressed by his positive body language?? 🤔🤔🤔😜🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 16, 2023 21:03:34 GMT 1
Ridiculous situation. We scrape a draw at Millwall in the final seconds and it probably means DM survives the festive period. I doubt it, it is only one persons oppinion. I don't see how a lucky draw could keep him in place for 4 weeks, no matter how poor the team play or how the results go. First thing - I want DM gone, as soon as possible. Second thing - today was far from being a “lucky” draw.
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Post by goodbet on Dec 16, 2023 21:10:41 GMT 1
I doubt it, it is only one persons oppinion. I don't see how a lucky draw could keep him in place for 4 weeks, no matter how poor the team play or how the results go. First thing - I want DM gone, as soon as possible. Second thing - today was far from being a “lucky” draw. How would you describe it?
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